As a National Park Ranger, we do not tell people about sensitive locations either. A few times we have only for cultural reasons (like someone who is a member of a certain tribe being able to visit their ancestral peoples’ landmarks).
That's horrible. If you do that on your own, you're a bad person. If you do it because of policy, it's a sickening policy. National Park land belongs to everyone.
@@wj7867 I see where you're coming from, but look how badly vandals have defaced ancient petroglyphs along Titus Canyon Road in Death Valley National Park. Difficult to distinguish ancient petroglyphs from recent graffiti.
@@wj7867 He didn't say you couldn't search it out yourself. He just said they don't proactively tell people where it is. People that have a respectful interest in such things will put in the effort (like Tristan). Those with bad intentions look for easier targets.
But there are always people who spend way to much time on google maps (like me) and have a few good guesses. I think this is in Owens Valley, in the eastern Sierra Nevada? Nice comment, I understand why
I saw all these places and more when I resided in the Eastern Sierra some years ago. I never tell of these places. I still have a home there and visit occasionally, although Arizona has been my main place of stay for sometime now. Heritage sites are priceless and require respect for the cultures that they belong to.
Thank you for protecting these incredible sites. It is beyond me why people would want to destroy these treasures and yet, I know they do. Thanks for sharing but keeping it protected. Awesome trip. Jane in SC❤🙏
@@Mickju Agreed! several years ago, we had one gal go thru several national parrks (including Crater Lake - near my home) painting stupid acrylic pictures on the landscape. Her artwork in and of itself was nt all that bad, but it was the damage and disrespect she did to OUR parks. grrrrrr.
@@garyjennyfrost9485 she hit Colorado NM while I was working there. 2014 or 2015. She was banned from the Parks for a long time I remember. I have no idea what she was thinking.
@@RangerMcFriendly oh yeah, Miss "Creeptings" or some garbage like that. She really bone headed herself. Reminds me of people leaving painted rocks now. I don't want to see that. There are plenty of desert art places to leave your crappy art.
Great idea not to show the locations!! I cringe to think of someone with a paint spray can ruining history as they have already ruined our statues & artifacts elsewhere. I LOVE historical things & hopefully some will survive. Great video as always, Tristan. 👍🏻🙋🏼♀️
I can't imagine how many times you walk somewhere, go back and set camera up then walk away then walk back (or climb). Not to mention all the gear you bring along (love the drone shots) Your effort is greatly appreciated. (12:22 seriously epic shot)
Sometimes it is perfectly OK to keep the locations to yourself! You've done the research to find them, just handing them over to the public just makes it easier for those places to to become overcrowded or over used. I am a lot like you, some call me selfish but I want my vacation times alone and things all to myself.
Not annoying at at all. If people aren't motivated enough to do their research to find places like this, they aren't going to appreciate and respect these places properly when they visit. Your videos allow a lot of people a chance to enjoy these out of the way places who might not have the means or ability to see them any other way. Thank you for doing that.
The beauty of SUV camping is adventure and finding out of the way places. Flocking to known sights leaves me feeling a little less adventurous. So I like that you choose to keep the location to yourself
Thank you for your videos and your concern for preservation. In general I wish people would not name locations. I have been off-road travelling and camping for 40 years and have noticed the rapid change in locations since people started sharing them on social media. Places that were once well preserved are now being destroyed by vandals, or lack of concern, or just due to too many visitors. Some old mining sites and natural camping sites that remained essentially unchanged for 30 years have been destroyed in the last 10 years after being "discovered" on youtube. Also, trails that never had washboard are now miserable to travel due to massive wasboard corrigations. I appreciate that people want to get out and see things, but they are not taking proper care of them.
Site 4 looks like a strategy. The round symbols represent areas that groups of hunters would strategically position themselves. These were hunter/gathering times. To survive you had to hunt. I imagine the rocky area was central headquarters where decisions were made and plans communicated. Yes, keep the spots under the radar. These spots are stunning, sacred, to be protected! Thanks for your wonderful work. I will never see these areas so I appreciate learning about them. They are truly awe inspiring. You are an excellent narrator and presenter and videographer-a one man wonder! Thanks.
Do not disclose sensitive locations. In fact, I prefer creators to not disclose any of their backcounty locations. Let seekers find their own path to new locations and adventure. We travel much like you and hold deep respect for the land, our impact and how we got there. Be a good steward of the land that we visit and share.
Thank you Tristan. We borrow these things from future generations. They are only ours to enjoy, not destroy. Unfortunately, there are some very small people that don't understand. I will always support and defend your decision not to share these locations, and appreciate you sharing them with us virtually.
Thanks for watching! In case you missed it, on Tuesday I put out a video tour of a great camping setup in a Chevy Suburban. Check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HvIm6W6Md_g.html -Tristan
I agree with everyone in the comments here - thanks for NOT telling us exact locations of these wonderful places! Anyone determined enough to see them can find them by themselves… I hate to think of places like this getting overrun by too many people. I’m like you, Tristan - prefer to travel alone, experience places like this without lots of people around. I usually stay out of national and State Parks for this very reason. Great video as always
I know I’m not the only one that cracked up over the walnut and apricot cookie review of, “It’s fine. I probably wouldn’t get it again.” Something about that delivery and the editing was perfectly hilarious. Somewhere in the behind the scenes clips there’s a shunned cookie slowly wasting away in a soulless desert.
Bishop area was awesome, I used to live there. I miss it but then again things change so much over the years. Next time try Erik Schat's Bakery across from the park, good stuff! I'm surprised you didn't go fishing at the Owen's River. I had caught a 17 inch brown trout there. Not annoying, I understand about protecting some really cool history.
I enjoyed the video. Good idea to protect the sites by making people who really want to see them do their own research. And...I am pretty sure the second site was a message to avoid the walnut and apricot cookies.
I think you did right by not giving the exact directions to these places. Not everyone is as respectful as you are. You are being a responsible RU-vidr and I appreciate that. My husband and I go out every spring to look for wildflowers. We have become more careful in giving out directions because people often destroy and trample the flowers not realizing that when you do that they don’t come up next year. Respect places you visit. Take photos and don’t destroy! Beautiful video!
12:21 Nice work sir. Beautiful shot. :-) Finding sites like these is a more meaningful and satisfying experience when one does their own research and sleuths it themselves...100% agree with your call on keeping the location specifics to yourself.
Totally agree about not giving out location when there is something so precious needing protection. If someone is interested in destroying something like that then most likely they are not interested in the investigative process of trying to find it. But if someone is interested because they have a desire to see it then they will enjoy the adventure of trying to find it in my opinion. I love your food reviews. Subtle but still entertaining.
Most definitely the right call. It is such a shame that we have to go to such lengths to protect historical sites. But it’s all part of the fun researching to find locations to explore - like a treasure map.
A couple hours, wow! Back in 2019, it took me 10 hours of looking at maps and satellite images to pinpoint an approximate location of Site 1. When I showed up there, I found it quite easily, and I can tell you this was one of my most satisfactory discoveries! On a second trip last year, I also unexpectedly found site 2 when I randomly decided to walk to the second ridge.
Yes, protect the locations and keep up the good, informative and entertaining work! You inspire us and take us places we may never go and places we will.
You would hope that people interested in beautiful and sensitive areas you take us to, would act as protectors of them, but I realize everyone is not in compliance with that level of thought. I'm good with your showing them- and if for some reason I stumble across such wonders, I'll share.. and not disclose. I get it! 😊 Thanks so much...I love traveling with you to places I'm not going to be able to make it to. Greatful.
As a resident of the western Sierra foothills...the eastern area has always been a favorite destination, especially the high desert. I minored in archaeology while in college and have had many opportunities to document various rock art sites. I have also seen vandalism. These sites are unique and preserving them is critical. Those who have a genuine interest, will find them. So, I very much agree with not sharing the location details.
When this was posted I said I'd try to find #1 myself. I found it yesterday. The info I found wasn't exact coordinates, but a not-very-accurate hand drawn map, which I combined with written descriptions and other people's photos/videos to find my way there. I did number 1 and number 2, plus a couple others. Thanks for inspiring me to add this specific adventure to my trip.
I am okay and actually glad you don't share the locations of some of the rock art. As you have done this before, I just wouldn't make a big deal about not sharing the location and maybe just add it in the description. As you said, if someone really wants to find it, they can do their own research. Also, seeing it through your videos is plenty good for most of us. Thanks for doing the hiking for us.
No secrets Tristan just tell me. Kidding I'll probably never make it there anyway. I absolutely approve of keeping these places as secret as possible. Like they say if you know you know. I hate that we have to do that but we have way to many ignorant individuals who have zero respect or appreciation for history or much of anything. I always think about what they were imprinting was it maps, children playing, warnings, discoveries. I enjoy your taste tests as well as the mini setup tour. Safe travels 💕
Back in the early 1900s, the city of Los Angeles stole all the water (well, we claim it was legal, but it really wasn’t) from the Owens River valley. It used to be quite lush there. And the Owens river was filled with trout. It’s sad that Los Angeles takes this water so that people can keep their grass green. That’s why there were so many Native American peoples there. The Owens Valley was a very productive land for food, water, game, and temperate weather. Those glyphs were amazing. I’’ll have to try to find these places when I spend the summer in Mammoth.
Loved that you did not reveal the location. These places need some kind of protection. They are absolute marvels. To me they look like depictions of alien visitors. I wouldn't bet my life on that, lol, and I'm a skeptic generally, but that's what I see. What were those long level spaces on the ground, about a third of the way through, as seen via the drone? They were divided by dark, reddish, straight rocky lines. I couldn't tell how big they were; no sense of scale, but interesting! Bishop is near and dear to my heart, as I grew up backpacking in the Sierras and we often approached from the east side around Lone Pine and Bishop. I climbed Mt. Whitney in the 6th grade! I'm exiled now to Minnesota, which isn't a bad place by any means, but I'm chronically homesick. This video was special. Thank you a million times over, Tristen. Superb stuff.
Tristan! Awesome video! Love your videos. "Here's a look at this thing. And this thing over here..." I like that when you don't know what something is you either ask us, or just admit you don't know what it is and move on. Great snow capped mountains surrounding the petra cliffs
That is such an unfortunate incident, however that Yukon/Suburban transfer case problem is a well known issue. I did a preventative fix myself by replacing the rear half case on my 2001 Suburban a couple of years ago. Too bad that GM won't stand by this or do a recall on it. Another beautiful video!
The petroglyphs you are showing are really remarkable!! In all our trips along 395 we have never stopped in Bishop unless it has been just to gas. That artesian pool is beautiful with the colors. Thanks for mentioning the USGA toxicological maps. The types of petroglyphs at the 4th spot are nice. Thanks for showing how you get your vehicle ready for your stay at the campsight! I think I can find the spots you been today. Enjoyed you video!
Thanks to Caltech, there are some holes drilled in the petroglyphs too!! Sheesh! I am not revealing any campsites anymore. Too many slobs boondocking these days.
Absolutely the right call not to identify or disclose the location of the sites. You don't owe us that information. Indeed, you don't owe us anything. Thanks for making the videos.
Very cool to see the First Nations artwork. Not many would see these if you hadn’t filmed it. I’m not sure if the were Petroglyphs (carved into the rock) or petrographs (painted onto the rock). The flowing artesian well is due to the water table being higher than the surrounding ground. Interesting because typically the water table follows the contour of the land. The water is likely following the contour down the mountain slope but there is a river between the mountain and the well. I would expect the surface of the pooled water around the well to be about the same level as the top of the river. Thanks for sharing and maintaining the privacy of the artwork. It’s been there for 1,000’s of years but only takes one person with bad intentions to ruin it. Two thoughts around the rusting conical structures for the pumice mining. They could have been used to fill up containers to transport the product or they could have been used as a dust collection system to reduce dust. (Like wood mills do today) Either way, they were most certainly originally pointed downward from largest opening to smallest. Cheers
That hopper and the item with the holes is a truck loader. They use the item with the holes to control the flow into the hopper to try and prevent clogging.
No it was not annoying to leave out specific locations. I'd bet most of us appreciate that you didn't divulge that info. Site #1 gave a lot of info.....if only we knew what was! Fascinating. Thanks, Tristan.
The drone and selfie stick helped a lot! It helped me grasp the size. I loved the shot of you walking on the rocks with the snow covered mountains in the background. The 2nd panel made me laugh because the first thing in my mind was that a coach was trying to teach his players their plays for some kind of ball game. Lol. Thanks for another great video!
When we are travelling, we have started going to small local bakeries for our lunch. Much better than fast food chains. We got the idea from you. I hope you bring Cassie on some more of your adventures. Nancy
I camp on my travels. I never cook. I put things in waterproof jars and put them in ice chest. As the ice melts. They sort of start floating around. I like when there is fair amount of water so can see what I’m looking for. I am not frantic to add ice. Remember, if any ice left, water is still just above freezing. Keep all sorts of pasta salads, lunch meats, cheese, cottage cheese and even some restaurant items in the jars. I have had things in the jars for couple weeks as I use them. Remember, that ice water is colder than your fridge at home. After much trial and error, glass jars with twist metal lids seal the best. Pickle jars and olive jars is good example. You can get jars in many sizes. Just a tip after years of living out of a cooler. I have an expensive one with thick insulation. Me and my dog sleep in my full size Toyota Sequoia.
First, No, it is not annoying that you don't give out location information. I appreciate you protecting these little bits of fragile history that are being increasingly vandalized. Second, check out the Hess Pumice Mine in Malad, Idaho. It is still in operation, one of the few in the world, and, I believe, they give tours. This might give insight into the relics you saw in California.
Saw another video on hieroglyphics, and they showed how much vandalism was done to the site. Good call !! I enjoy it when folks discuss how they get setup for the evening.. i.,e how you setup the rav for the night, etc., very helpful.
I really appreciate you not telling where, I prefer RU-vidrs not divulging any places at all, people that appreciate nature and incredible things like petroglyphs etc will put some time and effort researching for such places like we old timers did before all this social media that although nice and handy, gives access to many others that might tag or deface these gems, litter, etc disrespecting the beauty in front of your eyes. Thanks again.
Anything to help preserve Native American sites is greatly appreciated. Too many people don't respect those sites and they eventually wind up being vandalized. Thanks for the video. The snow capped peaks of the mountains were also beautiful.
I share your interest in petroglyph sites. If I had a time machine I would go back to watch them being created. The mystery of who, why, and what they mean is so compelling.
For those you asked for ideas identifying, my guess is the bottom portion of dust collectors where a cyclone separator would sit atop and a hopper or bags below. 👍👍😎 love your video productions Tristan 🙏 thank you
YES, it would be better if you gave coordinates to the rock art sites. I have found several from your videos and that is one of the reasons I subscribed. I understand why you are having second thoughts, but consider this: the people who watch your material are not just punks. They are those who want to find interesting places for the right reason, and are very likely to be responsible, mature individuals who will not cause damage to places they understand to be important. Keep on truckin'
No need to share the locations. It is enough that you shared the amazing petroglyphs and sights with us through your videos. Loved the scene of you walking with majestic snow covered mountains in the background. Thank you, Tristan!
My husband grew up just south of that area and he knew right where you are. He said there is a beautiful creek not far from that area where they used to camp and fish as kids. Thanks for another excellent video!
Not annoying at all. Keep it to yourself and keep this art safe. Although, I doubt any of your subscribers would vandalize anything except their own refrigerators. That art was really beautiful and NO graffiti! I, too, am a lazy camper when it comes to cooking. I would rather spend time viewing the sites than cook. Sorry about the suburban and glad you have a spare. Thanks for another great video.
The Sierra’s from the Mono Lake (Lee Vining) all the way down past Lone Pine and into Death Valley is really an incredible gem of an area that’s especially worthwhile for curious solo explorers. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of little nooks and crannies to explore and see from petroglyphs, to hidden hot springs, to ghost towns, to other rock formations. Such an amazing place from my previous experience a handful of times (pre-pandemic) and I still want to go back. One thing surprising is that while you were in Bishop, you opted not to go to the famous Schat’s bakery? Maybe some people think they’re overrated, but I’ve always found their bake goods to be excellent. Staying at the local Hostel California was fun also… just hanging out and chatting with PCT hikers and climbers. Speaking of which, an excursion to the buttermilk’s outside of Bishop might also be interesting even if you’re not a hardcore boulder. Just watching people trying to scale these massive boulders and appreciating the scale of things… Anyways, very nice vlog as usual! 👍 I think you have the right approach with not revealing these locations in an obvious way to try to protect them. I’ve seen so many instances at first hand of how social media “showcasing” have led to destruction of amazing places. Way too many reckless people that don’t follow “leave no trace” principles!
Thank you very much for another good video. Watching it from Norway,very interesting to see your country. What came to me right now was that your Toyota has been on a lot of bad roads now and still going strong 🙂 thanks again Tristan.
I respect your wanting to protect our American Indian art for others that will put in some work to find it and really enjoy it. It’s sad that it’s come to that, but you’re right.
I think not disclosing the locations of those historic sites is a sadly necessary thing nowadays. There has been a lot of vandalism and even theft out there, and I imagine most other places like that too. On a happier note, we love Great Basin Bakery! We stock up on their bread when we’re up there. If you like chocolate, the sierra mud cookies are to die for!
I appreciate you showing the rock art but totally agree that it should not be made too easy to find. Not only because of vandalism, but because we value more that which is not too easily achieved. I think you gave enough hints that anyone who really wanted to could follow your footsteps.
Tristan, I respect you for not revealing the location of sensitive sites. You made the right choice and gave us the ability to vicariously experience the amazing rock art. I also liked how you showed the simple steps of getting ready to settle down for the night. I’ve done a similar routine for over 4 years now and don’t know why more single pet less people don’t SUV RV. It’s so cheap, easy, safe and comfortable. Unlike you, I set up tarps, a hammock and a cook station as I love cooking out and swinging in the hammock, usually in a place with a vault toilet nearby. It’s a cocoon similar to the SUV.
l live in bishop--my family has two ranches,one south of big pine,other south of independence-my work takes me all over Nv for the last 50 years--i could tell you some amazing tales--been to every mine in eastern cali and all of nevada--have fun on your travels--
Great video, Tristan. I think you made the right call about not revealing the petroglyph sites. It's sad that there are people who want to destroy beautiful things like this. Keep up the interesting trips as long as you can.
Good call not to name the petroglyph sites and locations. The ones in your vlog are beautiful, thanks for showing us! Petroglyphs are vulnerable and were recently damaged by vandals near Santa Fe, close to where I live!
You should keep it semi-secret, it's just to bad we live in a world where there is some stupidity, self-centeredness, that destroy what is not theirs, to bad they can't learn respect. These places should be respected & admired, thanks for sharing
Definitely the right thing to do to not identify specifically the areas, I stopped identifying even my photos. If people have a real interest they can find it. Great episode
You go to a lot of awesome places. You have the best job in the world. I really enjoy watching your adventures. Even a bad day is a great day out in nature. Keep it up 👍. Happy Trials 👍😎
I really respect your conviction to not publish location of sensitive historical sites. Thank you. And thank you on behalf of future generations as well. Your “third party” off body tripod scenes were your best ever. Great composition, outstanding color and lighting, and meaningful, creative content. Best ever. Outstanding location too. Love California’s 395 corridor.
Another GREAT video. Wow, what an epic shot @ 12:22. Thanks for taking us along. And it's perfectly fine to not give the location of the rock art. Not annoying at all.
You are too young to likely be familiar with a dry, gritty, powdered hand soap with pumice called Boraxo. It is still out there, but not nearly as popular as it was in the 50's. It came in a flat shaped can and I think it had a twenty mule team picture of mules hauling wagons of borax out of Death Valley on the can. It was about the best thing you could use for hands that were really dirty or greasy.
I absolutely love that you don’t give the coordinates. Far too many people can’t be trusted to behave carefully around sites like these. Even “harmless “ behavior can be harmful in sensitive ecosystems and archaeological sites. Your caution insures that only seriously interested people will seek these out.
I’m familiar with this area but did not know about the petroglyphs. I think that there’s just enough information in this video to find these by doing your research beforehand and doing a little exploring on foot. Thanks so much for not providing the exact location to help keep this beautiful. (Edit: IRT site 1)
