I appreciate the fact that as a RU-vidr who reviews trucks, you actually bought this truck & are giving real world reviews/results of what you experience. Keep up the great work!
True. A lot of the channels reviewing the new tundra are just talking about shit that they heard or what they think. Hell one guy compared his crew max cab to a double cab like we wouldn’t notice. Smdh .
Pretty much the same mileage I’m getting here in 🇨🇦 with my 2017 Ford F-150 XTR extended cab 4X4 with the 2.7 litre V6. I’m very happy with my mileage.
2020 Silverado 3500 dually with the 6.6 gasser unloaded on the highway running at 75 mph I get 16-17 mpg city driving will bring it down to 15 and loaded with 18k pounds I get around 7-9 depending on grades this new 6.6 gasser is a beast. Also this is all while running 35x12.50 mud tires with 2 3 inch spacers on the rear of each side and a leveling kit tires stick out half a foot from the dually fenders.
Recently took my 21 F150 STX crew FX4 3.5 Ecoboost on 400 mile all interstate trip. I have BFG KO3s tires. It got 22.3 mpg hand calculated in hilly terrain at 75 mph. I was very happy with it.
I love how these new trucks are getting such better mileage and still have the power. I have a ‘21 F-150 XLT CC 2WD w/2.7 ecoboost and 3.55 rear end. Just completed a 1200 mile round trip from Tennessee to Louisiana and back with the speedometer set at 72, and got 24.8 computer, 25.1 hand calculated. That’s roughly the same my V6 Grand Cherokee got on the same loop, and it’s a few hundred pounds lighter.
Great to hear Tim's experience and yours. IMHO, the 2.7 EB is best engine to come out in the last decade. We have a 2.7 EB in an F150 that's spent the majority of it's time in an open cast mine. Hot, dusty conditions with a pile of idling time. Numerous trips back and forth each working day to labs about 100 km return trip. Reliable, powerful and fuel efficient. .
I’m looking at trucks and still have an open mind to larger SUV’s and I’m still surprised many of the big trucks get the same mileage as many mid-sized trucks and 7-seater suv’s!
hey Tim, I am glad that you are mentioning lane tracing (toyota)/ lane centering (ford). I would love to see a comparison between ford's LC and Toyota's LTA. I know this is a feature that a lot of reviewers does not care to review and I get it, not a lot of people use it , however, it is one of the feature that is a must for my next vehicle as I do long-distance driving. TIA and pls keep the vids coming.
I have owned the Tundra for about a month, and borrowed my friends F150 for about a week. The Ford lane centering work much better. It activates sooner and more often when approaching a line. If you test drive the Tundra, you will see it doesn't work that well.
Good video! I have a new one ton Ford to pull my fifth wheel. I do like my new truck, but if Toyota made a one ton I would buy it. They don’t break down! I have had 5 Toyota or Lexus vehicles. Took them all to high miles. They weren’t perfectly reliable. But they were close to it. But what they were NOT, is fuel efficient. Your results are shockingly good.
I had a ram 1500 4x4 with the 3.6L V6 for years, with stock tires I averaged 26mpg highway all the time. Dropped to 22mpg when I added a set of 10 ply AT tires. Averaged 11mpg towing 7500lbs which is the same I get with my ‘21 tundra v8 towing the same 7500lbs.
Traded my 2007 Tundra Limited Crewmax for a 2021 Silverado 3.0 liter Duramax…..went from 15 mpg to 28 mpg. Don’t regret the trade whatsoever. Even still getting better mpg then 24 so Toyota needs to bring the diesel to America in my opinion.
Your yearly maintenance costs , oil changes in particular may change your mind. Even if you do them yourself. Any emissions parts are ridiculously high....even worse on the Jeep diesel.
@@JL-nq6iq You would think that, but I’m still happy with the change. Oil changes are a little more but not drastically. DEF hasn’t been as bad as I initially thought. Apples to apples, I’m still operating in the “black”.
The issue with the turbo is not that they had some problems. This issue is that they pulled the body off the truck to fix it. That implies if you buy one for long term (like many Toyota owners looking for reliability) and you need need to service the turbo well beyond the warranty, then the truck is essentially totaled. So the question is: "What is involved with servicing the turbo?"
Lots of money long term I'm guessing, ive had many turbos an nothing will stop bearings from going out in time ,dosen't matter who vehicle it is ,I mean toyota, Ford, so on ,turbos are just expensive in general.
I got my 2022 Tundra SR5 TRD Sports back in December 14th, i been driving it daily for 2 months now i got 2,600 miles on it as of today. I have been averaging 16mpg city/highway in cold and snowing condition in the month of January here in Ohio, but when the weather is a bit warmer it goes up 18mpg in city/highway combined.
One 3 gallon fill-up is not a great indicator of fuel mileage. One thing to consider on this particular truck is the unusually long filler tube. Fuel tank is on the passenger side while the filler port is on the driver side. This can make the auto shut off system in the pump less consistent. My guess is that the real MPG is closer to what was indicated on your trip computer. The best way to measure actual MPG is to log fuel usage over several thousand miles. This smoothes out the inconsistencies. None the less it seems Toyota has definitely improved the overall fuel economy of the Tundra. Well done Toyota, well done.
John Huff, "Fuel tank is on the passenger side while the filler port is on the driver side. This can make the auto shut off system in the pump less consistent." I 'm not convinced. I'm thinking it wouldn't make much (any !) difference. No proof either way ...
@@fjb4932 he's talking about air in the line coming back to trick the pump shut-off. This happens on all vehicles. However, he's right, the longer the distance, the more likely air will get trapped along the way, and cause a premature shut-off. Air has less ability to escape as fuel goes in, when the narrow line is longer from the tank opening, holding fuel in the line briefly that you just put in before it can get to the tank. For a proper top-off, you have to see the fuel, not accept the pump blindly. Even on normal systems with both tank and fill on same side, I've had a lot of variation on the number of times the pump shuts off before I actually see the fuel level in the tube. I top off on every refueling, and my trucks have two tanks, not just one. It happens all year round.
Thanks for the post. I appreciate all the details and spec's you provide. Just wanted to add my MPG for my 2020 F150 XL/STX super crew with the 5.0. I use 87 octane mostly from Costco. All street driving is 15 - 17 mpg. All hwy driving is 20 - 22 mpg. Combined driving is 18 - 19 mpg. Now I have take a long road trip from Arizona to South Dakota and at a certain point there wasn't 87 octane available so I started using 91. My hwy mpg increased to 24 - 26. I was blown away! Now to be clear this is no towing, just some camping equipment in the bed with a driver and 2 passengers.
I have 5.7 tundra an this new one no way I would buy one ,im actually looking at that same truck you have, ive had those Ford 5.0 an those are an were ahead of there time ,one of best engines ever built.
I'm glad I didn't just skip to the end and I hope a lot of people didn't. Not just Toyota but all car manufacturers are trying there best to get the emissions and pollution down. If that makes people up set because there's no v8 motor that's what it is.
I got 24.8 in my 2020 Silverado 5.3 with a 8 speed automatic transmission. Running 80 in the hills of Tennessee on the interstate with 1500 pounds of payload. My truck is a 4 full door crew.
@@JuanHerrera-ji5ti I have the picture from the on board computer in which I verified by my calculator because I didn't believe it myself. If I knew how there was a way to attach it to this I would. I don't lie!
Last November I rented a 2021 Chevy 1500 Silverado to help a friend move 250 miles. I put 522 mile total on that truck over the weekend, 250 loaded with furniture, and the rest unloaded. I averaged 12 MPG for the trip. I used cruse control as much as possible at 70MPH. Chevy lied. The only way you could get even 18 MPG would be to drive 55 on cruise, and accelerate really, really slow - slow enough to piss-off everyone unlucky enough to get behind you. Basically, Drive like a 95 year old lady. Now, with gas at $4.50 a gallon, yikes! I would hate to have to fill that tank!
What engine? I get consistent 19-20 mpg on my 47 mile commute with a mix of highway/city on my '20 silverado 1500 V6. My '17 TRD pro tundra used to get 11.4 mpg
@@albertopaniagua55 It was a rental, not sure what engine it had. But we were using it like a pick-up truck - loading it with stuff and getting work done. I love driving a pick up (loaded with all the great tech packages) and love sitting up higher than cars & SUV's, but I hate the stops at the gas pump!
My 2021 Tundra 2wd has rated 13 - 17 highway. I use a 100% gasoline 87 octane. Nashville to Gatlinburg got 18.3 highway. Nashville to Tampa Florida 19.7 highway. 72ﾟ averaging 75 to 80 miles per hour. This was with the bigger nitto grappler tires also. I will be putting lighter weight tires on in the future, possibly electric fan. Is going to try to lighten the truck by 200 pounds.
Yes, I got same results in TX when I owned a 2007 Tundra DC 4wd, SR5 w/TRD 5.7L. I ran OEM sized A/T tires. Drop-in K&N air filter w/ air box mod was only performance mod. Hard folding tonneau cover. Best ever mpg was 20.6 mpg hwy running through PA using BP regular gas. Truck was loaded down with gear for a one year assignment out of state.
I bought a new 2002 Tundra and still have it today. Great truck. Anyways, the oil pressure gauge on it has always been low. There is lots of info on it online about it cause Toyota set it that way for some reason. But 187,000 miles and 20 years later the truck still runs great. And I use it on SE Oklahoma mountain dirt roads as a feed truck primarily now.
I have an '02 Tundra with the 4.7 V8 (original owner). She just rolled past 400K! I have always had a low oil pressure reading too. This is an Alaska truck too. Lots of cold weather and dirt roads and she is still going strong.
I bought a 2024 Tundra Limited 4x4, and the engine failed at 5,631 miles. One of the cylinders got oil in it and failed the plug. It was nothing I did. First time I’ve had trouble with a Toyota, and I’ve had many. I will say they took good care of me though. The dealership put me in a brand new Tundra Platinum for the same payments. We’ll see how this one does.
I have almost the same truck with 6.5 foot bed just gassed up after start tank from dealer running city mostly driving at 16 lets see after I finish this tank but very happy with this truck it rides like being on glass 😀
I never got more than 21 on my 2 wheel drive Tacoma and not even close to that now with 70k miles on it. Avg of 17mpg, with slightly bigger tires, now so this is looking real nice.
I did a cross country from San Francisco Bay Area to Tampa Bay Area in a loaded up Ford Expedition Max (Ford's Suburban), 3.5 l Ecoboost, through cities, mountains, deserts, etc. My combined average was 20 mpg, so I am not surprised by your result. In fact, considering the conditions of the test, as close to driving downhill in a vacuum as you can get, I thought it might have been higher. That Ford was pretty impressive, btw, particularly when comes to steering, felt like a much smaller vehicle.
Love the V8 vs 3.5l turbo reliability vs pollution. I've spent so much time saying turbod engines can be very reliable but I love the resukts of the packaged research you provided.
Coming from someone who majored in energy, comparing reliability and pollution makes no since. If you are looking at CO2, which is harmless, electric vehicles have a higher CO2 footprint when looking the product lifespan. That being manufacturing to end of life.
Like the new 2022 Tundra but the coil spring rear suspension, the TTV6, no Auto 4wd and The smaller cabs (The DC is now useless for rear seat passengers) was the 4 hitter quiter that made me say Nooo way, Not a chance that I'd buy this.not knocking it, but just not truck enough for what it costs and for what I use a truck for.
You have to take the number like a grain of salt, redo that run tomorrow and the number could be less. But it’s probably safe to say it will be consistently above or right at 20 mpg.
Of course it will change day to day because there are so many variables that go into it As Tim explained he did everything possible to keep things fair for this truck compared to any other vehicle that he test drives I have seen many of his test drives and he does a very good job keeping things equal and fair
Yesterday I drove my 2010 ram 1500 hemi 4wd from Seattle to Spokane, cruise control set at 73. My mpg was 18.9 and my truck has 166,000. miles on it and still running strong. At this point I can't justify 60-70 k for something that get a couple more mpg's
I have that exact same truck! But mine gets 12.7 gallons no matter what I do, what size tires are you running? I have 92,000 on my odometer by the way. Thanks, Jay
Very nice video Tim! I recently drove an unloaded 2019 f150 XL supercrew 4x4 with the 6.5 ft bed, 3.5 ecoboost and 3.31 gears on about 130 miles of mixed highway (55-60 mph) and small towns and was equally shocked! The truck got 24.8 average miles per gallon. Around town with normal, albeit gentle driving is typically 21.5 miles per gallon if I stay at or below 65. If I get in the turbos, have a heavy load or drive at higher speeds it'll definitely drop to around 17mpg. Nice to see the tundra is comparable
The key in getting good economy is to stay out of boost. Whenever a turbo engine is under boost it uses more fuel for the same amount of hp than a non turbo engine because a turbo engine has to run rich to prevent predetonation. It can run stoich under boost like a non turbo engine can. So the phrase "you either get eco or boost" is very true.
@@richardhouvener6423 its the ratio of air to fuel where you have exactly enough air is provided to completely burn all of the fuel. That ratio is known as the stoichiometric mixture or stoich for short.
Living in West Hollywood ( lots of traffic, lots of idling ) my mom’s Platinum 2022 is getting 19 mpg, really impressed considering her old mpg was 12 lol.
I bought a new 2016 F150 4x2 4 door with a 2.7 ecoboost v6. The only reason I bought the truck was because I could get it with a 165 cuin v6 twin turbo. If it only came with a 3.5 n/a v6 and a 5.0 v8. I would not have bought a F150. I used to drive for Lyft with my truck getting 19 mpg in the city. You have to have a light foot to get this number but it is real. I have 81k miles on my truck now and the only problem I've had with the engine is a $20 cylinder head temp sensor.
People just want to complain to be honest and most of these ppl are not interested of buying $hit. I honest to God have never missed the V8. I love the 3.5 EcoBoost. I love the power and the gas mileage. Thank Tim for this beautiful review.
I get it, although I still prefer the older V8 like the coyote. Not as fast or efficient as those great Ecoboost engines, but it feels more “natural” and the sound makes it up to me.
I had a 3.5 ecoboost. Went back to V8. The gas mileage is nearly identical and the 5.0 didn’t have the issues my ecoboost did. Everyone’s got good / bad experiences but I’m staying with a naturally aspirated V8.
Average 20.5. Highest was 24. Lowest was 12 with broken phasers towing travel trailer uphill. 😂 2018 FX4 Screw 3.5 EB. Yes, I just got it back from the dealership yesterday. All fixed, $0.
My new used 7000 mile 2021 Ford F150 hybrid did 26.5 highway and a very little local traffic area 128 miles bringing it home from dealer. Fayetteville NC to Myrtle Beach SC. Average 65 mph highway.
Too bad it looks awful, the last gen looked way better, aesthetically this truck looks awful, interior is made of good quality but lacking a bit, gauge cluster is pretty shitty too
I had a 2021 Titan 2wd crew cab a while back as a loaner and even running 80mph i averaged 19mpg. Running between 70 and 75 I consistently got 21mpg. Way better than I expected from that truck.
Yes, Nissan is pretty impressive. I am waiting on the '22 Tundra but have a '19 4wd Titan now. I almost always get 18-18.5 mpg on backroads, little to no highway. They are very impressive.
yup NA v8 mpg will be more sensitive to RPM and not MPH. the forced induction v6tt are more sensitive to mph, once you go over 75mph, the boost is on most of the time and gets horrible mpgs, even if you are sitting at under 2000rpms.
@@fongvang935 you are absolutely right. I have Sequoia with the 5.7, same as tundra '07-'21. Max torque comes on at 1950 rpm. If I cruise at 65mph, it stays at1800 rpm and I get 17mpg. If I cruise at 75 mph, its at 2100 rpm and I get 13 mpg that is the same as its city mpg!
@@johndeaux9987 They're definitely an underdog. My brother has an 18 pro4x and loves it. I have a 16 xd platinum reserve and love it. Definitely the best seats of any truck by far. But that 2021 loaner definitely has me considering a new XD evem though the diesel is discontinued. I have towed the same stuff with half tons amd my XD and there is no comparison, especially with stability. Anyone who says you a half ton can do better towing hasnt towed with an XD. World of difference, especially in cross winds and 2 lane roads when an oncoming 18 wheeler flys by from the other lane.
What I love about these new trucks is luxury, and what I hate about them is they have a bed size of my Toyota Avalon’s trunk, and it looks like a luxury suv with shopping cart behind it.
Just spoke with my Toyota sales rep here in Canada and he stated from their training course today the combined fuel rating for the trd pro is 11.2L/100km or 21mpg.
@@AkashChahal A US gallon is only 3.8 litres and a imperial (Canadian/UK) gallon is 4.54 litres. Just take your Km’s you drove and convert to miles, then convert litres to either US or Imperial gallons and do the miles/gallons math for either. Or, just use the online convert and just output to UK mpg. The US mpg figures are always less than ours because they measure gas volume in US gallons.
@@TheIrongutz yeah that’s what I did, I gave the l/100km measurement and US Mpg measurement for reference. Didn’t think anyone would use imperial measurements since we use l/100km up here and the states only use us gallons.
Hey Tim, I just compared the bore and stroke of both the Ecoboost and the Toyota. The Toyota has a 100 mm stroke vs 86.6 mm for the Ecoboost. A longer stroke makes more torque, but a short stroke revs higher and makes more horsepower. This likely means the Toyota can use less boost at highway speeds because the engine makes enough torque without the turbos for light loads. However, the Ford is faster, which the boys over at TFL Truck confirmed in a drag race. Again great videos. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦😎
Also, longer strokes wear the drivetrain more, which isn't as good for durability. The Ford will likely win that durability comparison too, over time. Horsepower is what delivers higher power at highway speeds, not torque. Torque is "off-the-line" take off power. I think you have that "less boost needed on highway" suggestion reversed. My 1980 Fairmont Futura 3.3L I-6 engined car had high torque, which made driveability around town very good, but horsepower from the engine was low, and that limited highway speeds quite a bit back then (but since 55 mph was the speed limit on interstates and highways, not many drivers noticed the shortcoming with that engineering design).
@@rayrussell6258 Do you know the formula for Horsepower. It’s HP=(torque x RPM)/ 5252. So if an engine can produce more torque it automatically means more HP at a given engine speed. A way to make more horsepower is to simply rev the engine higher. A turbo engine can produce more torque at a lower rpm than a naturally aspirated engine. However, this comes at the cost of fuel economy. Now if an engine can produce enough torque without getting into boost, then The engine can operate it’s Stoichiometric range which means it’ll be more efficient. A longer stroke engine will help with this but a longer stroke engine can’t rev as high. Go watch the RU-vid channel called “engineering explained”. He has a really good RU-vid video on the concept of turbo engines and stoichiometric air fuel mixture. BTW, your Ford Farmont with 3.3 L I6 only had about 94 hp, and 157 lb-ft of torque, which is significantly less than even the smallest and weakest naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines of today. Engines from the late 1970s, 1980s and even in the early 1990s just sucked.
@@Show-me-how-now I retired from a career in powertrain engineering and vehicle development in the Big 3, Danny. I know horsepower and torque calculation. The important thing for driveability is the shape of the torque curve in the lower rpm range. The 1980 3.3L naturally-aspirated I-6 had a very steep rise in the lower 1000-1600 range. In those days, it drove very well for that engine displacement, and got excellent fuel economy for a 6-cylinder. I improved on mpg with the manual transmission's overdrive gearing. You are incorrect, however, in saying to increase horsepower you simply need to increase rpm. The shape of the torque curve enters the calculation of hp, and increased rpm's ITSELF does not generate horsepower. In fact, the torque and horsepower curves reach a peak at a point in rpm's, then begin to fall as rpm's increase. On the old 3.3L, after 3500 rpm, horsepower flat-lined, and thereafter fell. After 2000 rpm, torque was already falling, so you didn't accelerate very fast after getting to highway speed, even though nominally horsepower was still increasing up to 3500 rpm. Far too much is made of horsepower numbers, in marketing and in the automotive press. My earlier statement doesn't change, long-stroke is not good for durability. The Ford engine will be more durable. I seriously doubt Toyota is moderating boost at highway speeds, based on engine torque. Today's ECU-controlled fuel-injected engine stoichiometric range is a given, no matter whether the turbo is in-use or not, anyway. The driver's foot controls when the turbo kicks in, not base engine torque per se. Drivers get impatient, even when torque is nominally still increasing (slowly) on a given engine's torque curve, and they press down on the accelerator for the turbo boost, which robs fuel economy for the vast majority of drivers. Toyota cannot program that boost out at highway speeds, or else they risk owner dissatisfaction with the powertrain. As far as I know, there aren't any naturally aspirated (and non-hybrid) 4-cylinders left on modern cars/trucks sold in the US by high-volume mainstream brands, so there isn't any true comparison as such to my old 90+ hp I-6. 😀
@@rayrussell6258 Hi Ray, there are actually lots of naturally aspirated 4 cylinders engines being sold. Ford Maverick and Escape Hybrid. Base Santa Cruz pickup. Nissan Rogue, Toyota Camry 2.5 L, Toyota Prius, Honda Civic 2.0 L, etc. In terms of Reliability only time will tell. My Dad’s 3 previous 3.5 L (2010, 2016 and 2021) have been good. However, for some stupid reason some idiot at Ford decided to place the water pump inside the front timing cover. So replacement is a very expensive and long process compared to a normal water pump.
That's good fuel mileage for a truck, I agree, but I wouldn't call it insane Tim. I consistently get 9.8 L/100 km (24 US mpg) to 10.2 L/100km (23 US mpg) on highway trips with my 3.5 Ecoboost F150 Supercrew 4x4 and the cruise set just above 100 km/h.. Combined highway and town fuel mileage is around 11.3 L/100km (20.8 US mpg). Yesterday I reset my fuel consumption gauge and on my way home from north of Toronto I set my cruise on 100 km/h and did some "spirited" driving as I always end up doing before setting the cruise back on. It was a four hour trip with a combination of highway and small towns. I've done the calculations myself from time to time and it's usually pretty close to the computer on the truck. Glad you're getting good mileage too; it's a good feeling.
I have watched lots of 2022 Tundra videos and mpg's are kind of all over the place. There are just so many factors that can greatly affect fuel economy. Wind speed, wind direction, vehicle speed, going up or down hill, etc etc. The great thing for me is that this test shows what mpg is possible with this truck. Of course if you get those turbos spinning, the economy goes right out the window.
@@tv-ke4lx I hear this silly argument all the time. No one is buying a pickup for the best fuel economy possible, however, that doesn’t mean you can’t find the one that does the best between all the trucks and still suits your needs. I’d rather take my fuel savings and get more mods for my truck!
I drive a 2017 charger Daytona 392. My commute is 30 miles each way on I5 in Oregon. South to work, north to home. My average mpg at 60mph TO work heading south, is 25ish mpg. My average FROM work heading north, is 32mpg. Tested in my 2020 ram rebel, it’s about 16.5 to work and 21 from work at the same speed. Leads me to believe I’m driving at a very slight uphill grade over the 30 miles to work and downhill heading home. The elevation difference is about 450 feet but my mpg is extremely consistent in both directions
Great video providing real world experience and results. Exactly the type of video people are looking for when researching new products through RU-vid videos.
For the past 8 years people have been complaining and pondering when will Toyota update the drivetrain. Toyota updates in and everyone is in uproar. To be fair they only did the junk twin turbo V6 because that's what Ford sells. They should at least offer the 5.7L in a like a 6.2/3L config or the very least a 5.7L and a 8/10speed automatic.
2018 Nissan Titan, we drove upstate NY to Glacier/Yellowstone and then back, total miles driven was 8500 miles. Gas mileage for the entire trip was 24.5 mpg. A little interstate Highway driving but not much really, mostly secondary highways. We had camping supplies, clothing, cooler, etc., in the truck. We were pleasantly surprised with our mileage. Travel was done in July and early August 2019.
@@adkkev The more you ease into the throttle the better fuel mileage is. I rememember when a lot of HWYs I drove when younger were 55 some 65 and where I live now it's 75. Anything after 55 you start to waste fuel. I get far better mileage at 65 than 75 or 80 and I bet if they still had 55mph zones my mielage would be able to hit EPA ratings. I took off the cats on my car. Opened up to about 450hp and could get about 30 on the freeway at 75ish in perfrct condition. I bet if I dialed it back to 55 I bet I could almost get mid 30's.
Great job as usual Tim, but getting 22mpg highway with my 5.0 F150 - there isn't much reason for me to give up my beautiful V8. Only time it loses out is in city driving - but I didn't buy my truck for that. It feels at home out here in harsh Canadian Rocky Mountain winters.
@@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit 100,000km (60k miles or so?) 2018 with the 10 speed. XLT mid level package - no parking sensors or blind spot monitor, dynamic cruise or anything else. Fanciest feature is rear defrost and auto dimming driver/interior mirror pretty much; with a locking 3.55 rear, super cab with 1900lbs of payload, flowmaster true duals and S&B air box. I will drive this thing for many, many years to come. Every time I see a newer truck I admire it for a couple of minutes, but then I look at mine and realize how much more I love the simplicity of it. Relatively cheap to fix, I can take it to the local mechanic shop I trust. Use full synthetic and replace the oil every 7,500km. Brings a smile to my face every time I even slightly get into the gas pedal - that smooth V8 torque - and oh boy, the cold morning remote starts. Can hear it a few blocks away haha. I feel incredibly lucky to be able to enjoy one of the last vehicles made for purists before we go full electric/computerized.
@@uttamgala7186 shame you didn’t get a 2015-2017 5.0L 2nd gen those were the best The 2018-2021 get a tick after about your mileage supposedly and have oil burning issues being a 3rd gen
Great video as usual. I have gotten 24.8 with my 2021 6.2 High Country crew cab back road cruising under 55 mph easily. I always go easy on the gas, and I average usually 18ish in daily driving around town rural PA. I have a 2022 Platinum Tundra on order hope it gets better mileage your video gives me hope. Thanks for sharing.
@tim Hearing about Turbo issues…would love to hear your thoughts and a video with perhaps an interview with Toyota on this issue or at least a summary of your interactions with them on it. Super impressive mileage. Fo sho.
What a true gentlemen, what a video, thank you. I have a 2002 V-8 Tundra 140,000 miles and commute every day to work, no fancy lights in this thing but it can fly and the only thing wrong is the steering rack is starting to leak. Reliable toyota's.
They appear to be using an actual oil pressure gauge here, not just a warning light that uses a needle. most everything now uses a gauge that is set to read at about 60% up the scale as long as there is about 10 PSI present (roughly, different manufacturers are of course different from one another). With those, go below the programmed minimum for the gauge and the needle takes a dive to about zero (and the oil light comes on). The one way to be sure is to note that the gauge reads higher when the engine is cold due to oil viscosity being thicker. However, seeing that modern engines use light weight oils (0W30 in some models), even seeing a big difference when the oil is cold would be harder to determine. Just a thought.
My 2019 F 150 RC LB V8 2wd will regularly show 28mpg when cruising at 60mph on a 30 mile door to door trip from Chicago to N. IL. Once I made a 45 mile trip and the DIC showed 31mpg. Even discounting it by 10% (Ford DIC reading is known to be optimistic) 28mpg is pretty AMAZING - and a V8! Truck weight on door jamb listed at 4,350lbs. I put some STX 20x8.5" wheels and big Cooper AT 3 tires on for winter and gas mileage plummets. Part of it is cold temperature seems to hurt mileage, but the rolling stock weight increase is huge. Same trip (up hwy 41) will register maybe 20mpg in gentle 55-60 cruising. I estimate 3" tire height difference makes odo read 10% low, so I would not apply the 10% Ford Optim-ometer DIC reading and compare it as 20mpg vs 25mpg - massive 20% drop.
So, do YOU feel 24+ mpg is a “realistic” result? You mentioned getting 16.5 on the earlier trip, an 8 mpg increase is a pretty significant change for “normal” driving.
Hmm… good question. I didn’t drive for fuel economy in this test to be clear. Still. I think you’ll have a lot of varying results with the small displacement engines. Frankly, I’ve been all over the board on turbo engines and non-turbo engines I’ve been way more consistent.
Since a turbo engine relies on air in air quality much more than a naturally aspirated V-8 you’re going to have a much more varied mile per gallon number but then again if you were buying a truck for mpg you’re looking at the wrong numbers
@@tv-ke4lx Does air quality really matter that much with a turbo charged engine? The air charge is being pressurized above atmospheric, which is why they, generally handle altitude changes better. The big difference is the turbo can get more air and therefore would require more fuel when being worked. Also, I hear the "don't buy a truck for mpg" WAYYYY too often. Would you knowingly buy truck A knowing it gets 5 mpg, when truck B, C & D get 15 mpg? What if truck B gets 15 and truck C gets 25? Do you still get truck A because "it's a truck"?
@jeff s yup exactly, i fish and dont haul my boat but around 1 maybe 2 times a week. I dont need the "truck" for every single day stuff. Hes referring to daily drivers that buy 2500 disels and never haul a single thing.
if your in Nebraska and got those numbers thats pretty damn good. I've driven across country 4 times in the past year and a half and the fuel in Nebraska and that state specifically cut my fuel milage by 35-40%! and it was consistent 3 trips in summer and 1 trip in the fall season... each time as I crossed the boarder and filled up my MPG was cut by 35%
Your video puts such a smile on my face as I wait on mine to arrive. As you know these trucks are not as cheap anymore, we would like to enjoy them for a while before we start dipping into our pockets. Thank you for taking your time to help me, and the others that are thinking about purchasing a Tundra.
Lets see how it holds up first. Mu ecoboost lasted a wopping 14k mikes before i blew a piston skirt my v8 tundras i have a combined 620k between the three never an issue. I ll wait and watch before i buy this model. I get 15 combined in my 14 5.7 and lots of piece of mind. I think the answer for me is a truck for truck stuff and a small car to commute
For sure the 5.7 is one of the best ever engines, but the 3.5 turbo from Lexus is not a wrong bid, we have to follow it in long term, now moving that big truck.
This is a good youtuber, bought this truck and makes videos about it (unlike Rob who keeps on yanking/crying about this truck and yet he doesn't even own 2022 Tundra)..
That’s impressive!!!! Toyota figured out the fuel mpg issue!!!! Look forward to seeing what the hybrid will do! Look forward to towing numbers with a 8-10k lbs
Thanks for answering the low oil pressure indication as it was a concern of mine. I did comment on another of your video's, asking about this potential issue. Thanks again Tim awesome channel.
I've heard some nightmare stories about some SERIOUS problems with the waste gate on this truck/eng combo...at low mileage...16,000 was the lowest ...and that the entire cab has to be removed to change the waste gate ...I have a 2015 Tundra and I have decided I will NOT be trading it in
Fuel mileage is definitely great, but I am NOT giving up my bullet proof 5.7 for anything. The real questions will not be answered for a few years yet. If the Toyota is anything like the Ecoboost then you are looking at significantly higher maintenance costs as well as the extremely pricey repairs on not 1 but 2 turbos. I don't care how good of a reliability record Toyota has, turbos are a wear item with an average life span of around 125,000 miles.
Keep your oil clean and don't overspin the turbos with hot tunes, and they will easily last the life of the truck. Turbo failures are rare. The real issues with Ecoboosts come from timing chain stretch and phaser issues... It's a lot more rare to have turbo failures on them.
I've been watching a lot of videos. and I feel the issue for people getting 13mpg is because they are stomping on the gas. Whenever you boost the turbos just like you boost a supercharger, it drinks a lot. When you drive just normally without a heavy foot, especially when you use cruise control. It makes a huge difference.
@@benjones8977 You realize that there are so many factors involved that affect mpg right??? There are so called reviews out there saying this truck gets 13mpg also. So what does your common sense tell you?
@@todd6888 That’s what I said more testing needs to be done. I have a Tacoma and Kimbo Camper, The first time I drove it I got 14 mpg. I drove it for a few months afterwards and got between 12 to 18 mpg. So it varies on the speed, weather, temperature, roads and many other factors I’m sure. One thing I did notice is the sunnier or warmer climates you get better mileage.
I totally agree. I recently purchased an F150 with the small 2.6 dual turbo engine. I’m currently getting 28 MPG in town and around Phoenix freeways. The key is in accelerating moderately. That turbo gage is very useful. Formerly I drove a 2020 Ford Ranger and no matter how I drove I couldn’t match the MPG numbers I’m getting from the F150. My guess is that the Ranger would do better with aggressive driving. Both vehicles were 2 wheel drive.
Is it just me when he said he spent $67,000 on the truck I had heart palpitations! Better keep that thing for 10 years. In 2001 I spent 20,900 with rebates to get my Dodge Ram quad cab with v8. In 2007 I spent 20,500 with rebates to get my Ford F150 4 door V8. In 2014 I spent 27,000 with rebates to get my regular cab Ram with Hemi. Lastly in 2019 I spent 28,400 to get my Nissan Frontier SV Midnight edition with rebates. Best mileage I got on my 4.0 Frontier traveling from Massachusetts to Florida was 21.2 mpg
Turbo life (or lack thereof) will suck those savings dry. Not a vehicle designed for a long, trouble free life .... as opposed to all Toyotas prior to.
Impressive MPG for a truck but my buddies 2018 F 150 with the 3.5 gets around the same MPG. My Brothers 2021 2.7 was getting 26 MPG on the highway recently
23 mpg surprises you? You need to drive a 1/2 ton, 4 wd diesel. Upper 20's is normal at 70-75, can hit over 30 if you're only doing 55-60. Biggest problem is the idiotic $6+/gallon right now. Second biggest problem is the $ penalty you pay to buy one as they cost ~$5 grand more than gas (unless you bought a RAM ecodiesel around 2018 and got $10-15k off).
My 2.7 ecoboost was amazing on fuel economy all around. It was almost always over 20mpg in mixed driving. Now, the 10 speed auto was a different story. haha, that caused me to dump ford forever. I've seen a lot of reports of the new tundra with really subpar mpg around town. It's nice to see it shines on the highway.
I don't know what you're doing with your Ford F150 eqoboost 3.5 or the Powerboost but I own a Powerboost and reliably, trip after trip I get 25/25. That's 25 in the city and 25 on the highway and I'm driving in Phoenix Arizona and it's outskirt highways which are usually rolling rather than flat. My 2015 2.7 L eqoboost reliably got 19 in the city and 24 on the highway.
I’m really considering this vs the f150. I really want a truck that gets 23mpg. I have been wanting to sell my quad cab ram and get a more useable crew cab truck. I think the ford is in general a better looking truck and more ergonomic with the flat back floor but I’m taking reliability into consideration and Toyota is world class
I've gotten 23 mpg on my 2020 Ford F150 Supercrew Sport package with max tow package and 6.5 box (standard is 5.5 box, I ordered my truck with the bigger box). My truck with the 3.5L EcoBoost also blew the doors off my buddies Ram 1500 quad cab 5.7L Hemi. Go with the Ford. That Toyota will be dated in a year.
The 5.0L has a 12:1 compression ratio. That is how they are gaining efficiency. It is also E-85 compatible which cuts its emissions down by as much as 80%. It can be one of the cleanest truck motors you can buy today.
@@tv-ke4lx it depends where you are buying it. Some states are promoting it as a great product and selling it for half the price or regular. Some places sell it more like avgas because the 109 octane gives some engines like the 5.0L a major bump in power, so they are charging extra for the performance. Many 5.0L owners use E-85, at it gets better economy on propane or E-85 then the base 3.3L gets.
Put my 2022 Tundra 1794 4x4 on order on December 7th Still waiting for 3 months and don’t know when I will get delivery. Ordered at Fred Hass in Houston where this reviewed 2022 Tundra was picked up. So far my eco boost F-150 hasn’t needed another top End like it did in 2021. Thanks for your review.
With 332:1 gear ratio, you should get great mileage! I had a Dodge with 355:1 and 5.7 L engine that would get me 21 mpg on the highway. My current Ram Rebel with 5.7 L and 392:1 Won't come close to those figures, but it does very well when it comes to towing as far as power.
Yep and that's why the guys at TFL got better fuel mileage when towing heavy in a 2022 Ram 1500 with the V8 than they did in the 2022 Tundra with a TT V6, despite being 11k feet above sea-level.
@@putmeincoach7663 so you are saying that this truck is great on gas if you used as a daily driver just to go to Work and home????? But if you used for work of any sort you are not doing good?
Crazy that Toyota went completely opposite on gear ratio compared to the previous gen Tundra. 4:30 ratio in my 2014 Tundra. Which obviously gets terrible fuel economy but tows excellent.
At 55 mph I get 32.2 - 32.6 mpg regulary with my 2003 Dodge 3500 4x4 crewcab short bed single rear with 37" inch military tires. Mostly traveling from Toledo to Chicago. Fill the tank travel 280 miles then fill it again average the miles and wah-la! Also same fuel milage with 35"inch NIto mudgraplers. 6BT Cummins Diesel 400 hp 800ft-tq 210,000+ miles now on my truck as of 03/12/2022 My truck weighs 8,000lbs empty. 35 gal fuel tank. ATS exaust manifold. Everything BANKS makes for my truck with manual trans. (Duel 4" ehaust, intercooler, intake, 6-gun etc) FASS fuel system. Fluidampr FS2500 Ceramic Clutch Fuel aditive (Diesel Kleen) XADO oil additive Front Leveling kit I've owned 5 Trucks and this one is the BEST!!!! I will not give it up, and when I need a new truck I'll spend the $30,000-$40,000 to restore it. I am NOT affiliated or spnosored by any of the companies I use on my truck.
meh, sometimes I see 20-25mpg doing a short trip (60 miles to and from work) on the 3.5 ecoboost, then over time, it just goes down to the average of around 18-19mpg for the remainderof the gas left in the tank. Usually happens on a good day with no wind and 50-60 degrees weather. It seems the mpg is all over the place for the 22 tundra. Some say 12, 15, 18 etc. which I think for a turbo charged engine is normally higher variable depending on how much boost is coming on.
Who cares You don’t buy a truck or even a TwinTurbo V6 or V8 for the gas mileage Buy the truck you want and buy the truck that works for you no matter what brand no matter what trim level and enjoy what you have Everyone makes a good quality truck these days and they are all doing away with V eights and going to turbo sixes because that’s just the way of the world
@Rick yup, forced induction engine's mpg performance is highly dependent on driving habits. My NA V8 engine will give consistent mpg between 15-18mpg even when I drive 80+ mph. the v6tt gets better mpg at 65mph and under, 20-25 mpg, once I start pushing 80+, mpg goes down to 13-14 mpg since boost is always on at those speed.
Toyota's are the best! I have a Prius and a Corolla and both have over 200K miles and run like new! I use Automotive Wolf car care software on my vehicles to monitor the maintenance schedules and have it set up to send me text message reminders when any service is due, so I'm always up-to-date on all the maintenance. Makes a BIG difference. :)
70 MPH is faster than what it would have been tested at originally. At 70 you would burn more so I wonder what you would get doing 60 MPH ? Just a thought. Keep up the great vids Tim !
