I Can't Recall Opening This Much Power Recently | Vintage Cube Draft 

Reference BK, Paul, or Tom.

step 0: play a lot of cube

I think most of us missed how similar it is to fetching an untapped land and casting consider. The fact that you don’t need the consider though is crazy.

Yeah that was definitely the play

yeah, dang, breaching in kozilek was actually a huge mistake on BK's part but he didn't get punished

Okay then... On the reply, but if the first post doesn't have any power in it I might still get a few likes... Well nevermind, Volcanic into Sol Ring.

Whoa-ho-ho! Alrighty well I'm slamming Hullbreacher. Look, it works great with Black Lotus. This is such a great Black Lotus deck. Overall weak pack though, passing to Sandydog, who I expect will take the Esper Sentinel. This deck looks awesome already. Could always do with more Power, though.

Cringe.

@@nicholaskersey3771 No u

You found the line, you aren’t missing anything.

So much worse than looping time walk though

@@nikhilchhagan7371 True, but there was a Thassa’s Oracle, too. That’s a convoluted combo, but it’s just a win.

Lol even when he played it, it did nothing. I really feel like both Oracle and Fastbond have been subpar for quite a few times I've seen LSV play them recently.

@@bricelory9534 Yeah I agree. I think it still has a place in the cube because the crucible zuran orb or strip mine combo is insane, but it feels really medicore in a normal deck.

Fastbond is just so much of what VC is about. Even if you don’t have Zuran Orb combo, sometimes you can Ramunap+fetch land to get all the lands out of your deck, or just stumble into casting a 4-drop on turn 1. It’s really nice with wheels too. I think it might not be a consistent winner, but it’s a lot of fun and looks super busted when it works.

​​@@dementievatz the thing is, even in the best suited decks it is unreliable: Fastbond works very poorly with redundancies, like Exploration , etc. - and you're less likely to want to tutor for it compared to other combos. So it is at its best in decks that see lots of cards (draw 7s, etc.) and this one didn't seem like it had nearly the support for it, because this really only had Ancestral for good card draw to both find Fastbond and the extra lands to play AND the payoff for having a lot of mana. But even when it is a deck well suited for it, it is unreliable and shaky unless you get the perfect opening mix of Fastbond, lands, and payoff spells. Too often, I've seen LSV play the Draw 7 deck with Fastbond and either hope to find Fastbond, the lands, or the payoff while sitting around not doing much of anything. There are so many situations when drawn that Fastbond is an absolute dud. I get that especially LSV's cube is set up to facilitate the niche combos and weird interactions that mean a card will only be useful to one type of deck - but considering we also have things like Consultation-Oracle and other massive niche effects, it feels like most of the time, Fastbond requires a lot more hoops to jump through for too little payoff these days. Especially as creatures are becoming more relevant with LSV including more initiative cards (and that creatures are are just getting better). When one of your combo pieces is a 4 mana 2/2, it all might just be too slow. Don't get me wrong, I think it's okay to keep in the Cube (as it might even be nearly sacrilegious to cut it!), but from the last number of months I've watched, it seems LSV tries to shoe-horn it into decks where it doesn't really do much and is too often a dead card. And personally, I think the decks it does shine in are often unreliable if they're depending on the combo. If it's free, it's worth spec'ing on, but I think it is far from certain. Unfortunately, I just haven't seen the Lands packages do too hot these days in LSV's drafts.

yeah I think if Oracle came out today no one would even consider it for vintage cube

More likely to draw spells if all the lands are out of the deck lol

Thirdsies!