I don't think I've ever felt so old as just now, realizing that not only do toy smartphones exist, they've existed for long enough for an adult to have had as a little kid.
@@scirrhia_kruden The oldest Zoomers (Gen Z) are 27 years old, the youngest are 12 years old. In 2030 every Zoomer is legally an adult (in most of the world). If you were born on the day the iPhone came out you would be an adult next year. I, 22 have never lived in a world without the consequences of 9/11 and the patriot act as those events happened a year prior to my birth. Only the very first year of Zoomers('97) have lived in a world without Google(Sep '98).
@@Meet_Your_Death ironically (and tragically) I feel like the world's coming full circle right back to that from great depression to great mental depression or something like that...
@@tysonchickennuggetstrue, there’s a lot of very specific limitations but I’m sure it could be used in clever ways. E ink phones have always kind of appealed to me but they lack a lot of useful functions that I wouldn’t be able to do without. But I’d love to see something like a hybrid smartwatch with an e-ink display behind analog watch hands. Public information displays could be cool, or menus? Idk tbh
@@myvalekcz6656as someone who gets sucked into the dazzling world of OLED high refresh screen on my pixel, I'd like something like this to keep me focused on essential tasks and not mindless content consumption
We need to bring this back for smartwatches. The battery life can be insane. I miss my pebble watch. Required add on: Damn, I blew up, recalled all pebble and garmin users, THEN UNITED US ALL!
I had the fossil hybrid and it was never a great alternative, never tried the others but nothing will ever compare to the friendliness and price of a pebble. Now I just use an amazfit band for the 8 day battery life and all I care about are the notifications.
The fact he said "invent" is ironic as hell. It already exists. How can apple invent something that already exists that's not invention it's just stupidity xD
@@user-uu9ru3de1y It’s both an ironic joke, since apple always claims to invent anything they use (and usually give it a new name) and an actual point, since apple usually only jumps to new tech once it already matured enough to make a good mainstream product (like the late jump to face recognition, which was a feature of android, but that pushed the face recognition to not just analyze a picture)
If it has a suuuuuper looooong battery life and if it's super cheap then this phone definitely has a purpose. It can serve as a backup emergency phone but if I doesn't have those two strong points it's not worth getting
If you don't watch videos on it, the battery will last for days Cheap idk. I've seen one like 8 years ago for $200. E-ink was still pretty slow back then.
People pop in and park paragraphs positioned to public pupils, pitting pairs of perfectly predominant peepers to pry upon possibly pathetic poems of past points.
Its really hard to make it runs faster than 15/20 hz, so its very limited for many tasks. But for wearables and some specific technology could be really amazing
@@NVidiero Try 3-5 Hz, and even then that's in overdrive mode that drains the battery which defeats the point of even having e-ink screen in the first place, and the image artifacts really go through the roof.
@@maksadnahibhoolna-wc2efit's more like a standard calculator or game boy color, but with no backlight. The backlight kills battery, so if you work in a bright environment you are using very little power, whereas a traditional display means you have to crank the backlight to full (or your phone does it automatically) and you run out your battery faster.
Basically, it's crystals in fluid, that with an electric charge, will either move up to the top of their pixel, or down to the bottom, making each pixel either black or white, and modern ones have variability for grays too. It's like an etch-a-sketch except with electricity instead of being manual lol
@@johnxina2140 Are they unlike LCDs in that they then don't require continuous power to remain in that momentary display state, so they appear to still be "on"/draining power - ? (Whereas LCDs do in fact continually draw momentary display power?)
@@justinklenk exactly, due to the viscosity of the fluid and the properties or the crystals, when no charge is applied they simply stay in their current position, which is why they ha e such good battery life. With an e-reader especially, the only time the battery is being used is when the page is being turned, or any time the backlight is being used
Absolutely fed up with people deliberately seeing how items will break under stress. Most items will do just fine if you look after them. We were brought up to look after everything we had because if we broke it we weren't going to be getting another one. All the hard work and components that go into making these electronic devices it just breaks my heart seeing all that being undone.
his tests are mostly an "extreme" example of regular wear and tear, to gove the viewer an idea of how well the phone will hold up (bend test is to simulate sitting on your phone) while the bend test is likely a little extreme in most cases, i have had a phone bend on me (no real damage, just a bit of a bend.) and he has had a couple phones catastrophically fail (as in the phone snapped in half)
@@Reverend_Salem Well they're not though are they? To show regular wear and tear would require a machine capable of doing the same thing over and over again much like they do in Ikea when they show a chair cushion being pushed in hundreds of thousands of times. If you push something far enough then you'll push past its breaking point and it will snap however you could use it normally for many many many years and never ever have any problem at all with it. We as children were taught to look after everything we were given and I'm not kidding when I say I've never had one single electronic item that has ever broken on me save for a monitor which had an internal electronic fault which had been introduced due to poor manufacturing. Phones will catastrophically fail if you exert that much force on them but if you're looking after your device then that should never ever happen. They can't be made from material that can never bend as that just doesn't exist. Well not at the size and thickness we're talking about here anyway. I just think everyone has the point already that if you stress them too much then they will break. I just find in this day and age where we need to be thinking even more about looking after everything that this is just wasteful. Probably just me and the way I was brought up but that's what I believe anyway.
@@MarkBowenPiano I subjected my phone to a "regular wear and tear test" accidentally by sitting in the car with the phone in the back pocket. That's not too far from what he did in the video.
It's just an indicator. Imagine if it broke after a slight flex? You wouldn't want to buy that item would you? I agree with your sentiments and have never killed any phone I have ever owned, (just jinxed myself there). Take these as consumer advice.
I was wearing headphones and I forgot who I was whatching and then he just made the worst “fork + ceramic plate sound” and full volume and I will never recover
@@IChewyI’m thankful I’ve never done that. If I’m out of the house, my phone lives in my back right pocket, and I’ve never yet sat on it, because I’m conscious of it being there and know how much it cost me.
This is actually fairly standard for e-inks of the past decade. I've owned a cheap android e-ink tablet since 2018 and it has this same "mode". Essentially it has two refresh modes. The first is the traditional method where the entire screen refreshes and inverts the colours to prevent ghosting (what you see in the full video when Zack pushes a refresh button). The second "quick" mode which will only change the pixels that need changing, but it causes ghosting since the pixel doesn't get the time it needs to fully refresh by inverting the colours. I may not be explaining it well, but it has to do with the limitations of e-ink displays and how it's actually ink being physically moved forward or backwards with electricity to either show the dark ink as black, hidden away for a white, or some level in between for a different shade of gray.
@@JarvinTheJaryeah that's a large part of why it looks so smooth, it's bc the frame rarely changes when your looking at a static image 😂 e ink is awesome tho forsure, but I would hate to have it as the ONLY option for my phone, and I think most would agree LOL. What we need is a phone that comes with e-ink panel for reading books/all text, and an OLED panel as well for normal phone usage and doing things like watching videos, playing games, etc. Until then the best option is using a separate e ink device for reading. Hopefully someone is able to make a phone/tablet like this soon! Maybe one has already been made as well..?! I haven't looked into it but I imagine the engineering challenges would make this quite difficult!
@@dvargas3553 Yes, IIRC, SciShow recently did a quick mention of this technological possibility in their video about the troubles with looking at displays outside in the sun and why e-ink is inherently better for doing so.
@@thomasmoller5178 agreed on both points (battery, easy reading) question is why do you thing it would make a good productivity phone, since screen refresh frequency is very low, response is slow (and the specific device) seems to have fairly low durability. (not antagonizing, just trying to figure out your thinking and what points i may be missing)
@@pasmas3217 he might mean because you arent distracted by all the colors a normal phone would have. Alot of the colors of a normal smart phone grab attention from users, the blaring red notificaiton being an example.
@@liamstewart389 Too the screens don't hurt your eyes from brightness and you can use them right before bed or right in the morning without getting sore eyes or getting blasted with 1100 Nits of brightness. If a device like this was built with a metal body and even a midrange slightly older chipset and like 4GB of ram it would actually be really good and it would load fast enough that the display would be the only limiting factor. Basically by building the phone like that it would keep costs down and it could be better marketed towards "cheap" work phones if they were priced at $130/£100/€120. Also if they removed cameras entirely it would make it slimmer and cheaper and it would make it look better overall, most use cases don't need cameras in regards to work phones, it only needs to be able to read text and reply to said text while also having the ability to make phone calls and so a basic speaker would be all that would be needed and at most 64GB or of which that is more of a standard nowadays 128GBs of storage but more realistically 64GB would be what would be in the phone at that price.
Wrong actually. E-Ink screens are measured in PPI not DPI. They arrange clusters of those ink "dots" in squares and put them in a grid format to make pixels. Look at the E Ink Carta HD. It's a 6 inch E-ink screen with a resolution of 300 PPI at 1080 x 1440. Just thought I'd let you know. You're welcome
@@PlatinumEagleStudios that's news to me actually, cause I remember the first time I searched for e-book readers they were giving the resolution in DPI... Thank you for letting me know that they changed it though xD
@Prowlyi sadly, yes. Women's front pants pockets are usually horribly small or non-existent. When I was in high school there were more than a few girls walking around with phones that had a cracked screen at minimum. Some of the bigger girls had phones that no longer were completely flat.
That’s the joke, Apple have a history of taking ideas from other devices, putting a minor spin on it, then take all the credit. They’ve been doing it less in recent years though to my knowledge.
@@Yippeee5959No, not really. Anti-Apple people just like to pretend that Apple copies everyone else, while ignoring how many things they do first. When Apple uses someone else's tech, it's "copying"... when someone uses Apple's tech, it's "innovation".
Plenty of people carry these in their pockets and probably accidentally sit on them occasionally. Even being careful you will flex the phone occasionally, not to that extent, but good to know a slight flex won't kill a phone. Having said that it would be good to see some measurement of force used. I've had plastic bodied phones and they are generally fine.
for 500 dollars, you are better off getting a proper e-ink tablet like an onyx or a meebook. having said that, i hope more phone companies start exploring the possibilities of e-ink! color e-ink already exist, so who knows. maybe in 2026 or something we will see phones with color e-ink displays!
You can get a smartwatch for less than 20 dollars and use it for making and answering calls, provided it is connected to your existing phone. A eink tablet plus a smartwatch is actually cheaper and arguably better.
E-ink can be a very useful tool with so much potential. Ppl keep saying it is bad bc the screen isn't fast but it doesn't need to run fast. It can be used in a smartwatch and other product that could be needed to last very long but doesn't need colors.
As someone who used ereader with eink screen for reading quite a lot, that screen type is definitely best for books, just like paper no eye fatigue from screen light
Yea I miss the unique devices. That was the main appeal of android for me. Even the LG ‘s with the quad dac’s offered something special. Those days are gone. Even the Samsung galaxy edge’s were dope. They don’t seem to do curved edges anymore, and when they’re done it’s a nano curve. Shame the edge line is gone. I love getting edged.
Thanks man❤, all the other videos about this problems were simply making a video without any explanation, but you did it and because of that, I solved the problem with saving my sounds on packs in fl studio. Again thank you❤
Some top tier quality content right here. A dude breaking a smartphone for absolutely no reason instead of mentioning or explaining the "application" that he brought up at the beginning. Wow, yeah, tons of fun...
“Dude, I don’t understand why people have to damage products to get attention on the internet. What’s the point of wasting and damaging products? What are you trying to get out of that? There are so many people who still don’t have the money to buy them. Also, seriously, you’re not a designer for this product, you’re not an inventor for this product, you’re not a maker for this product. Just being on social media, damaging products to get your attention, to make cash flow, it’s just like bullshit. It pisses me off in many ways. There are so many people who need these products, but they can’t afford them. What can you give to them? What are you trying to prove here? Are you a product qualifier or something? 👎👎👎
Would u believe that phone manufacturers actually send him the phones so that he can break test them? That's his thing man, and that's why his channel is popular.
Because a Harvard study shows e-Ink’s ePaper is up to three times healthier for your eyes than LCD screens. The first generations of color e-Ink are now here and if production gets cheaper we might see better marketing towards this healthier option. A problem might be: The refresh rate is not really there yet, so given that smartphones are specially designed to be more engaging so people spend as much time as possible using them in order to make profits for big data companies and bombard people with direct or indirect marketing, I'm not sure eInk screens can be just as stimulating to actually take the place that LCD has nowadays. But hey, it can still be a better option for those who rather keep their eyes healthier and avoid being hooked to their hand machine socially engineered to make people a slave to it. These are my two cents.
the screen situation shown at the of the video is actual condition of my phone's display too, if I press a little too hard on bottom side of my display then it goes exactly like shown in the video.
