I Couldn't Let TronicsFix BEAT ME So I Replaced His APU! But Did It Work?

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@TheCod3r Год назад

Hey everyone. Please say thanks to TronicsFix by checking out his channel 🙏 youtube.com/@Tronicsfix

@bl1gh7y Год назад

Wondering if you may be up for taking a look at my neo geo? Works fine with all official carts but won’t work with my terraonion flash cart, I have a new voltage reg coming i’m gonna change but if that doesn’t fix it im gonna need some professional help 😨

@computinglemon Год назад

This little series is getting awesome!

@pcjc2006 Год назад

Already a fan lol

@frankrizzo890 Год назад

Be sure to give a shout-out to Scottie!

@donaldmickunas8552 Год назад

I found out about you from TronicsFix. 😉

@zierlyn Год назад

Ultimately, rather than a working board being the marker for success, I think identifying the actual fault would suffice. It would have been nice to see if the short still existed without an APU attached to the board. I would say confirmation that it is in fact an internal short would count as a win by default, as there never would have been a chance for a repair from the start.

@crisnmaryfam7344 Год назад

Sometimes identifying the actual faults are near on impossible. Or at the very least, a complete waste of money (aka Time) to figure out. You could test every trace and realize one buried deep inside the pcb is broken for god knows whatever reason. Then you are out the time figuring it out, and have only located a lack of continuity, Not an actual fault that caused it. Ultimately your learn nothing and gain nothing, and lose time/money.

@KrGsMrNKusinagi0 Год назад

@@crisnmaryfam7344 but if it if you do find it and find a pattern in other boards with the exact same spot then it would be worthwhile.. maybe to find a manufacturing defect etc or whatever

@donaldmickunas8552 Год назад

@@crisnmaryfam7344 Besides, he has already taken a lot of time so far. Probably more time than one would take on a typical repair before calling it irreparable.

@polygaryd Год назад

I was thinking the same thing. Test the board for the short after taking the original apu off. Not sure why he didnt do that before potentially wasting a reballed set of chips by soldering them on this board.

@MrFujack103 Год назад

This is the problem when trying loads of ideas and not methodically addressing them then testing over and over. I’m a mechanic and it’s so easy to make new fault while trying to solve others. Grab a cup off coffee and write down what you did then see where you might of missed something.

@aladdinalmasabli4382 Год назад

I think it would have been a good idea to inject voltage after removing the APU and see if the short was still there (before moving the chips)

@noth606 Год назад

It eats time, if it's not your personal box it's often not worth it.

@GYTCommnts Год назад

I love both channels and your collaborations are great! Hope to see more in the future! 💪

@Heatlink1 4 месяца назад

The efford that yout put in trying to fix this board, just for the excitement and success feeling, is heartwarming, keep the great work!

@ilikewatermelons494 Год назад

Could not wait to watch this been following this mini series and I want to see more collaborations between you and other repair RU-vidrs like Steve or Vince

@low_re8094 Год назад

Great effort, and lots of respect for giving it another go!

@CountZero20XX Год назад

Really interesting to watch. Thank you for the explanation on the workings of the BGA machine and what the process of replacing that type of chip actually entailed.

@TrueBeastWhiskey Год назад

I'm rooting for you to be successful in your final attempt! Looking forward to the video.

@philmorton4590 Год назад

Thanks for the video, it was great to see the full process to replace an apu. Answers the question why people prefer to replace the motherboard when large soldered chips are possibly damaged.

@jaylo912 Год назад

Really loving the videos, you are super informative and someone so easy to listen to. As said in live chat on latest stream, Really appreciate the knowledge you are spreading to us all. You are a true Guru

@uhsul Год назад

I loved the chip replacement segment especially because we're seeing the "feet on the ground" aspect of electronic repairs (done perfectly in time lapse) Great video altogether.

@TheZepone Год назад

Love it mate!! Well done so far

@CyGogetenks Год назад

Always enjoy watching these competitions between fixers, especially the banter. I've watched as much game relatable content to help keep my consoles in working order. I try and repair until it completely fails 🤣. Anyway just wanted to say thank you, Steve and everyone else that's doing content like this. Can't wait to see the one more attempt, have heard the BLOD is nigh impossible to fix, would love to see figured out as well! Good luck in your repairs!

@iNubpwn3r Год назад

Hey mate, I started watching and subbed a week ago and now I cant get enough of your content. I learned a lot in that week and if Im at work and cannot watch you, i at least listen. Keep up the fixing and good luck to you.

@mojouk8935 Год назад

Impressive i haven't see anyone on this platform attempt to fix the APU even the bigger channels, amazing work! a lot of the channels just say its not worth the effort nor time! I bet tronicsFix is amazed at the lengths your going to try and fix this board!

@jackblack7198 Год назад

don't give up and make more videos like this. I totally enjoy it. Greetings from Northern Germany

@Abdou1997a Год назад

Love the videos! Can’t wait for tronix to give you some other challenge!

@ronniecunningham9145 Год назад

Definitely a win for us who haven’t done this before and get to see this can’t wait to get some stuff taken apart someday :) awesome video man

@misi3837 Год назад

I like these honest videos without fancy RU-vid studio, where even sometimes a repair is not successful. Super, keep it up like this and many greetings from Germany

@nickf223 Год назад

Came here from Steve's channel and I love the consistent uploads as well as the more in depth repairs. Good job

@Tink-GB Год назад

Too messy a worker for me this channel person...only came over to watch this challenge too like you...Good try I suppose but after seeing the reflow by EVGA gotta hand it to the Taiwanese..reflowed a new GPU in 30mins

@pmyhill Год назад

Can't wait for part 3 Phil !! Changing all the components would still make it the same board 👍 (well, serial number wise anyway 😂)

@monad_tcp Год назад

Real fix, ordering a custom PCB from PCBway that's fixed and putting the old components. How hard can it be creating a custom motherboard ?

@hadesmcc Год назад

That was a heroic effort! Loved the video and your willingness to take a stab at it.

@Kikay0n Год назад

You rock dude. Good show!

@denman123456 Год назад

Hey Cod3r, it looks like the number one mistake that you made was if there was a short on the mossfets you should've first taken off the app and then check if the short are gone. If they were gone then it would definitely be the apu fault. Also the apu does look like it isn't seated properly, looks like the board warped from the heat.

@numberyellow Год назад

i was gonna say that too, about the board, it does absolutely look like it's bowing... if that's the case, then it can be guaranteed that not all the connections are being made.

@virgildeklerk Год назад

Hi Phil, Great to see how you keep trying, I hope you will succeed anyway. Great video and nice device such a BGA station. can't wait for the next attempt and will keep fingers crossed for succes

@chetSeminole Год назад

Thought you had it this time. Really enjoying this.

@Pxxsy_Liquid Год назад

Good job bro , for Reading the comments , & trying the apu , reballing .really enjoying your video's ! & from any fixer out there . 💀🔨

@jushandro9207 Год назад

At least it is fun to watch. Thx for the video bro

@qusayzokary1060 Год назад

It does not matter if it worked or not You are always the winner I love what you do You are genious

@rogermclean5891 Год назад

Awesome to hear the board is getting utlrasonic cleaned. I asked Steve if he was going to do it to be more handsoff cleaning.

@StuP1981 Год назад

Loving this! It’s gonna end up like triggers broom!!! But you can’t let Steve win 😂

@thomasodonnell2191 Год назад

Keep going! You can do it!

@Maxloader Год назад

I found your channel because of this challenge. IMO it's still a win as long as you are using the board provided by TronicsFix. regardless what APU is installed. And i would say it's a tie whenever for example inner traces of the PCB layers are shorted.

@leedavies3629 Год назад

Go for it dude ✌️

@coolissimo69 Год назад

Good luck bro

@YogSothoth1969 Год назад

I am sure you will finally get it running! In german we have a saying "Aller guten Dinge sind drei", meaning it takes three attempts to successfully complete the task. So yeah, you will make it!!! Cheers, Michael

@PhoneSax89 Год назад

Love the Fools & Horses reference, that show is absolutely timeless.

@watkins7810 Год назад

found you from tronicsfix love the channel

@realKoinzell23 Год назад

I have no idea what you are doing but i did saw the last vid the determination earned my sub.

@marianoserrato2405 Год назад

Cool video really enjoyed watching it

@gisel213 Год назад

Practice makes perfect good stuff bro!!!

@dekky3908 Год назад

Damn, I wanted to see it working too. Either way, it is always a pleasure to watch a master at their craft.

@deniscanaya Год назад

If you have taken the APU off that board, you may wanna check for short circuit on any (main or sub) power rails that go to the APU ( directly on the mask at the BGA landing spot ). Remove all the RAM at the same time and check for shorts to ground for signal lines , vcc, clock (anything else required) and check for good continuity of signal paths for RAM that goes back to the APU.

@SidneyCritic Год назад

This is the 2nd time this week I've seen a repairer pull a chip and NOT check if the PCB is still shorted, and then promptly blown something up again.

@binarybox.binarybox Год назад

Well done for trying., Phil...we can learn from finding out what can go wrong. I once had a psu , a small one, and took every compt off...board was still short.

@michaelgr8184 Год назад

i think as long as you get the board working it's a win. Btw it was a great video, i really enjoyed this series, i can't wait to see what happens next.

@310_Latchkey_kid Год назад

You still the man!

@anthonyhamilton5115 Год назад

Go for it Phil

@lostconciousness4255 9 месяцев назад

you're a brave man putting your hand on that apu while powering it on.

@lea-rw5cb Месяц назад

The codr3r,tronixfix, and my mate vince have helped me a lot with electronics keep it up guys 👍

@dobbs. Год назад

I love watching both yours and tronicsfix videos I think its great you repair some stuff that would end up as e waste. There needs to be a legal requirement to make big companies make things so they can be repaired!

@TheCod3r Год назад

Thanks bud, I agree, unfortunately manufacturers seem to like paying off the governments 😞

@StormsparkPegasus Год назад

The planet will be a mostly uninhabitable wasteland within 50 years. Companies and rich people will still be complaining about money even when the planet burns around them and they all die.

@philmorton4590 Год назад

Well, in the production process there are always going to be rejected stock that might get though testing, the longevity of electronics come down to quality and ease of use. Computer towers allow for upgrades to get around issues, but complete items such as tablets, consoles and phones have to be compact for ease of use and suffer alot more abuse so the soldering will give out eventually. It's the software updates that dial down performance to get you to upgrade that I personally find offensive.

@StormsparkPegasus Год назад

@@philmorton4590 Plus, things that are easy/relatively trivial to fix, but the manufacturer says "you have to buy a new one". I mean, yeah, an APU failure isn't nearly as much of a right to repair issue as a bad fuse or a bad capacitor.

@philmorton4590 Год назад

@@StormsparkPegasus I would love to see less ewaste out there, but watching Ipad rehab you see the real wear and tear on items, just dropping them can knock components off or uncouple the boards. Agreed in consoles and Apple macbooks their are really cheap capacitors in use and there should be repairs and diagnostic services for such like louis rossman, but there is a point when a device is over 4 to 5 years old, where you must have got your value out of the device and upgrade is inevitable if not required.

@mediatour8898 Год назад

Replacing the part would be a win, that's not a problem at all!

@dave_s_vids Год назад

We win whatever the outcome - another great video. Thanks :)

@rickithacker Год назад

You definitely need some merch on your shop. T-shirts with cod3r on the back of the collar and f7002 on the front 👌

@ramza78 Год назад

It’s a win if you get something working! Doesn’t matter if it’s original board or APU. Good try! Can’t wait for next part!!

@Lougardeixion Год назад

Philosophical question: Even if Phil managed to make the motherboard work after changing so many parts, would it still be the same motherboard? Ship of Theseus Paradox!

@sunofabeach9424 Год назад

yes as long as you don't pay for a new one it is still the same motherboard

@brettbobbrettbob1232 Год назад

Triggers broom springs to mind.😂

@MarkLada Год назад

That sounds kind of like the dilemma I have with my wife.. She's had tons of work done since we got married.. It started with a nose job, then a boob job, butt implants, lip fillers, liposuction, another nose job, two more boob jobs, calf implants, thigh and tricep implants, and finally a tummy tuck.. If my attorney can prove she's not the same woman that I married, I won't have to pay alimony..

@mjc0961 Год назад

Not a philosophical question: yes it is the same motherboard. The motherboard refers to the board itself. If I upgrade my PC with a new CPU, memory, and graphics card... I removed components from the motherboard, and installed new ones. But guess what? Same motherboard. It's no different here just because things are soldered instead of socketable.

@Lougardeixion Год назад

@@mjc0961 ok, another question for you then. Do you think Steve's limited console that he replaced the motherboard still the same console? If he informs a potential buyer that he motherboard is not the same, does the buyer have to pay the full price?

@markverklas6603 Год назад

I sure thought you were going to have success but it was fun, nice job on that re-balling

@voeguy Год назад

It looked as though the board had warped due to the heat or lack of support. Might be worth re-flowing the APU with the board heated evenly and better support under the board.

@strangerdanger1012 Год назад

A large board like this needs to be supported and braced to prevent warping during both removal and install process. Additionally the profiles on the reflow station need to be set correctly for proper temp cycles to prevent drastic changes in temperature that would case the board to warp. Multilayer PCBs are tricky due to several VCC/VDD/GND planes, prepregs, core, all of which have different properties on how they handle heat and pretty easy to warm ESPECIALLY w/ poor support. An attempt was made though but he' needs to practice more and acquire the right equipment. Basic BGA reflow stations like that are good for basic jobs with larger pitch/size but something as small as this chip requires better equipment with pick and place capabilities.

@WillThrillin Год назад

I really enjoy these sagas lol

@johnsaunders6510 Год назад

Triggers broom. LOL. A brilliant reference.

@knoxfromthebunker2770 Год назад

Thanks!

@TheCod3r Год назад

Thanks so much bud ❤️

@mikkobrostrom Год назад

i think thats a win ;) great video

@jifalck Год назад

I have more anticipation for the season finale of this "mini series" than I have for most actual TV-shows. Have my upvote, good Sir, and give him (Steve) hell!

@pjretroredux Год назад

ahh sometimes we have to walk away from a repair. it sux and as engineers we hate being beat. Good vids fella as always.

@ControleXecute Год назад

for a ps4 you need to replace 3 things in order for the console to work, not just one: the APU, the Syscon (usually marked as A0X-C0L) and the flash (usually a tiny spi chip)

@ControleXecute Год назад

another remark: they have to belong to a working board of the same type

@DJWHITE_ Год назад

Amazing! I thought that was the end of it! Bonus!

@Granty012 Год назад

Trigger's Board haha. Love the Only Fools reference!

@fifonefifty Год назад

This is the coolest I love this

@paulfox89 Год назад

Hi Cod3r, I was watching the latest Gamers Nexus video where they were moving a GPU chip from one board to another using BGA station in a EVGA repair centre. The technician used a tool with a tiny little suction cup on the end to lift the GPU die off the board. Seems easier and handier than trying to use tweezers IMO.

@jontait1095 Год назад

Sometimes those small suction tools can make the chip move around too much knocking small components around it. But they are good in some situations. I use tweezers aswell it's what you feel comfortable with I get a good grip with tweezers before heating that way like I say I dont knock stuff off that I dont want off

@Elektronikreparatur_Annaberg-B Год назад

but a BGA machine like that costs around ten times more than this one he used :D

@mikuneverdies6288 Год назад

I do "LIKE" this kinda challenge,,Hope to soo the final WIN!! GLuck my friend ;)

@rosspaginton8212 Год назад

3rd time is the charm we believe in you Phil!

@alderoth01 Год назад

Man... This stuff blows my mind, and this is just a console 😆. I can't imagine how complicated a PC or Laptop motherboard must be. I'm just gonna say it's all magic, and you are a wizard 😆.

@davidcooks5265 Год назад

To me your the winner for effort 👍💪🇬🇧

@360sully360 Год назад

keep at it i bet you can do it mate

@speedpuppy638 Год назад

Holy smoke of Mother Flipper 🐬 Not only the perfect amount…it’s also the Optimal amount 🌟🌟🌟 🙏

@guyhayden4795 Год назад

Random APU with his board surely - bloomy smoking video thanks

@milowadlin Год назад

I noticed you hung on to the sticky note, even though you "failed". I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you revisited it!

@stringbeanrg Год назад

Darn thought you had it I'll keep watching ya will get it I'm sure

@bikkiikun Год назад

FYI, Renesas is the semiconductor business that spun off from NEC, and joined with semiconductor divisions of Hitachi ad Mitsubishi.

@RAFAEL11221000 Год назад

It didn't work but it was a great vid. Thanks for showing Us all that process.

@daikiryoku Год назад

It's solder mask, not conformal coating. Conformal coating is applied on the top to protect the components. Solder mask is added under to stop solder flowing into traces. Completely different thing.

@tazman272009 Год назад

its never wasted time pal but learning you will do it

@madmatt2024 Год назад

I'm kind of wondering why you didn't remove the APU first and check if the short was gone before replacing all of those other chips? It would have confirmed if the APU was causing the short and could have saved you A LOT of time.

@ryanabarca8616 Год назад

he probably more concerned about making good content(long) than actually fixing the board

@Dsbarrynl Год назад

11:10 Chip smoke “don’t breathe this”

@mike-ology22 Год назад

Time is never wasted, lesson is always learned ;)

@therefix342 Год назад

I believe we'll soon be able to read the syscon, so that would be super handy!

@lkb6080 Год назад

The coder is the best

@ricmndy1 Год назад

IF I remember correctly, you also took a battery holder off this board as well just the other day

@yodad4776 Год назад

Your not the only idiot wasting your time lolol but learning ...sometimes u disproove findings sumtimes u confirm known details ..good work

@chefmastermikecmm8465 Год назад

Whatever the result. Give it another go! I feel like you're very close!

@RimeoftheAncientGamer Год назад

I don't think it's wasted time at all. It's instructive and also shows why people are hesitant to attempt this fix (for a variety of reasons).

@Vestige98 Год назад

Props to anyone who has the patience to reball any chip, lord that APU looked lethally boring.

@stevesgaming7475 Год назад

I fully expect a part 3 where you win! C'mon.. you can do it!

@User_1795 Год назад

I think the Mediatek ARM chip also runs the XMB to keep load off the main system while in game. That's probably one of the reasons why it's paired to the APU.