I CRASHED my InMotion V11!!

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Oh NO! I Crashed my brand new InMotion V11! How did it happen and why did I think it happen? Andsd the aftermath!
Episodes 64- I CRASHED my InMotion V11!!
And I barely hit the 50 miles mark! This week; my crash with the inMotion V11 and why you should always have your gears!
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That’s right I crashed my brand new less an 100 miles ridden inmotion V11, and when people ask me, does it still turn on? I am like, does this answer your question? This just happen last weekend so I am going to talk about it this week while it’s still rest on my mind.
This week, how I destroyed my inMotion V11, what happen and why I think it happened and what I learned about riding an EUC as well as the V11. Are you ready for the gruesome details? Roll the intro!
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I have been loving my time with the V11, it is a smooth, surprisingly powerful, yet well mannered and likely the best appointed wheel on the market. It is neither the fastest, nor have the best suspension system. But yet there’s that indescribable sense of quality that you would get from a high end premium product, that made it not just enjoyable to ride, but live with.
Now I haven’t ridden it as much as I like in the past week because of the arrival of the king song s18. But with my initial impression out of the way, I figure it time to come back to the v11 and start testing it for my review.
It does take a bit of riding to acclimate to the V11 and its higher pedal position. But after spending some time Friday morning riding around down town picking up groceries, I felt sufficiently comfortable on it so I headed toward Queens to my parents.
I was on first avenue heading up town and as customary for anyone who finds them self on a suspension equipped electric unicycle I was hitting as many potholes as I can. Coming up to the 12th street intersection, there was giant sinkhole which I did avoid. Wouldn’t want to take a chance with my shiny new V11.
But I did aim for a smaller manhole cover just past the intersection. The suspension compressed and but some how pop me up higher than expected and when my weight comes back down, something was not right and all I felt was the back edges of the pedal before falling backward to land on my back and the last thing I saw just before my impact was the v11 veering left before smashing it self into the back end of a parked truck on the shoulder.
This was the pothole I skipped on, and I landed about a 3rd of the way up the block and the v11 rolled upright another 40-50 feet before hitting the side of the mail truck, at which point there was a sickening crunch, and by the time I got up it was already scattered a crossed the road.

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@douglashughes2331 3 года назад

Lesson for me: If someone with this much experience crashed this badly, gear is a MUST. Gear may be expensive but not nearly as much as my $7000 medical insurance deductible.

@kezeal 3 года назад

I don't know, 5 euros for the hospital fee sounds cheaper to me than hundreds on gear.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Very much so! Accident always happen when you least expect it!

@douglashughes2331 3 года назад

Glad you were only sore, sorry about the V11

@darrengriffith9680 3 года назад

Kezeal Kether the pain and scarring of road rash is worth more than 5 euro

@kezeal 3 года назад

@Ribeye Robert D Did my joke hurt your feelings?

@2slice805 3 года назад

I’m happy you are completely in good health and didn’t loose a limb. Another classic video Bro, be safe and stay gear up

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!

@ericrobins5188 3 года назад

Enough said

@darkoflight4938 3 года назад

Never gear up for the ride, gear up for the slide...

@illusiondrain 3 года назад

Ask the shops at that street if they have a camera video footage that shows the crush. At least you are fine and nobody else got hurt from the wheel, that’s what matters!

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! As to the camera, even if there were, it’ll probably be too far to make a difference, only way is I had a close up view to see if the tire really popped because of the bump.

@NinjaKidz 3 года назад

Great vid! We are waiting to receive our V11 and S18 and excited to start learning to ride. This vid is helpful to prepare for possible issues.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Pad your wheel and protect them cuz you’ll drop them lots during the learning process!

@LilElfo 3 года назад

;0 10 million

@tedraymundo9283 3 года назад

Glad you're okay. You're a trooper for making this very informative video. I think that tire played the biggest part in your accident. The way it was punctured almost looked like a blowout, but that would have made a big popping sound. Still, in all the videos I have seen of EUC crashes, I have never seen a tire that looked like that afterward. In fact, most of the time it is the tire that remains intact and undamaged more so than the shell and other components of the EUC. Anyway, stay safe, keep riding, and keep the videos coming. :)

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! This is why I thought a defect must had cause it, the tire usually can take a pretty bad hit and even when punctured rarely fail in the way my did.

@pouchy400 3 года назад

I believe you suffered from “rider float”. It’s almost the same theory as valve float in an engine. The sudden drop the rider and the euc encountered at different rate or the rider suffers from a delayed descend. Obviously, there was a point where there was a separation from the rider and machine which force the rider to float. which means the euc descended first before the rider did. At that high rate of speed , the euc may have landed and compressed at the inner manhole ring which may have cause the bottom half of the euc to slow down while the top half may have rotated forward changing the angle of the peddles. The rider’s center of mass is now behind his feet. In that position, he now lands or crashes into the euc misaligned , with most of his feet landing on some of the peddles, and then rolling / sliding.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Keep in mind that I have ridden over hundreds of manhole covers by this point and there’s nothing special about the one I crashed on, this is why I think there must have been contributing factor like the tire that caused the crash.

@pouchy400 3 года назад

Hsiang there is another theory regarding suspension setup and tuning also there is the tire. I’m going to ask a suspension expert to chime in to see if that played a roll. Hopefully I may have an answer on that.

@osimmac 3 года назад

@@OWGAC perhaps you the v11 made you slightly compliant with its suspension and you didn't grip the sides as hard? ik whenever i go over bumps on ks14d, i make sure to grip it tightly so my feet stay planted on the pedals, i could imagine a suspension would make it less necessary on many bumps

@examancer 3 года назад

Scenario you didn't mention: failure of one of the two air shock chambers. A sudden pressure loss could have caused the behavior you encountered and loss of footing. Since both chambers were damaged in the crash it's possible the crash damaged covered up this failure. Do the shocks both still hold pressure with the damage shown? If they do that rules out my theory, but if not this may be worth considering. Thank you for sharing the good and the bad experiences with these amazing devices.

@judgesfiveeight 3 года назад

THIS. Please, when you have time, check to see if the shocks are still pressurized.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Interesting theory. I just checked and chambers on both sides all held pressure (still at 120), even the negative chamber with their bend nozzles.

@judgesfiveeight 3 года назад

@@OWGAC Good to know!

@judgesfiveeight 3 года назад

@@OWGAC Especially, as I could see a failure in 1 chamber causing problems. That is one thing about the Kingsong design, even with it's linkage complexity, that is a bit more... bulletproof... no potential for and unbalanced situation of sorts. In fact... I wonder how significantly unequal pressures in the V11 design would translate to rideability? Be an interesting test.

@1cplpat 3 года назад

@@OWGAC The chamber appear to be pretty sturdy. If they didn't pop under Chooch then they must be pretty strong.

@chraosta 3 года назад

Glad ur okay brother, and still riding! keep up the quality content

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!

@RCDevotee 3 года назад

Glad you didn't suffer a significant injury. Stay safe and healthy!

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!

@RCDevotee 3 года назад

@@OWGAC Thank you for all you do for our hobby :)

@0xeb- 2 года назад

Glad you are safe. Interesting analysis.

@ElectricUnicycles 3 года назад

That was an amazing amount of damage. And the tire! Oh well. So this was your personal wheel? I thought maybe it was a review wheel. And please let us know why it won't turn on. Good luck.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Marty! It was from InMotion! And of course I wreck it before I even reviewed it! =( I’ll have to open it up more and see if I can see any internal damage, maybe the hit to the headlight disconnected something inside?

@TheRealAlpha2 3 года назад

It made me think of those times playing Super Mario where sometimes you go to jump off a spring and only go part way, but the next time you get shot a ridiculous distance. Glad you're okay & I hope everything gets sorted out.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

LOL, Mario was much better at landing than I am though!

@macswanton9622 4 года назад

Great to see all your limbs intact! And no official involvement! Luckeee

@OWGAC 3 года назад

those box tofu really save my rear end, literally LOL

@oldretireddude 3 года назад

I would say the the tire rip is probably associated with the wheel spinning up at some point during the crash and snagging something on the truck.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I thought that at first, but I have never seem this much damage to a tire even in high speed motorcycle crash, also it looks like it’s teared rather than cut.

@DreiSkins101 3 года назад

same here

@MrWagtenor 3 года назад

Wow, glad to hear you’re okay physically. The V11 not so much. Keep us posted if you learn any additional issues. Stay safe bro.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!

@HeadRoaster 2 года назад

You keep saying you wasted 10 or 15 minutes of my life, but most of the time you've provided info that will save lots of time/cash.. absolutely not wasting time, IMHO -- thanks Hsiang!

@domatech 3 года назад

Great video as usual @Hsiang and glad your OK! I still want the V11!!!

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I still think its a great wheel! And I miss my!

@domatech 3 года назад

I am wondering did you have pressure in the negative chamber? @hsiang

@dajw 3 года назад

Great video, and excellent story Hsiang. I think I’ll ride the z10 tomorrow....love that wheel.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!!

@Mrlifecanada 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing and thanks for the tips

@a.d.h.dn3d461 3 года назад

I'm glad you're ok!

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!

@derekv2101 3 года назад

Perhaps the majority of the damage to the tire was done at some previous point and all it took was an impact at that exact position of the tire to blow it out? Just throwing it out there... Glad to see your okay, love the vids, keep up the good work!!!

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! The edges of the hole looks ripped rather than cut and ppl said that’s sign that the tire defect cause the blow out, so it was already weaken right from the factory.

@smvwees Год назад

Are there EUC's existing that have a black box, so you can figure out what happened and when incl. gps etc.?

@OWGAC Год назад

nope, we're still trying to get smart BMS!

@Bandtx 3 года назад

Damn, not a good week for the V11. First Marty's V11 overheated on it's way to overheat hill and wouldn't turn on and now Hsiang's V11 somehow crashed and turned into a hundred pieces after just one crash.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Yup, at least in my case I don’t think its the fault of the V11.

@aceuni-rider6921 3 года назад

And Duf's video

@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 3 года назад

Ace Uni-Rider What happens to Duff’s V11?

@aceuni-rider6921 3 года назад

Dump Chump Rode in the rain and it died

@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 3 года назад

Ace Uni-Rider That’s not good, 3 major failures in only a handful of machines and all pointing to different weaknesses. I hope they’re able to sort this out quickly before it becomes a major issue.

@JonS 3 года назад

I'm glad you're okay. The damage to the wheel looks minor. I'm sure it'll buff right out. 😂

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Just a flesh wound! LOL

@ThaBlackCobra 3 года назад

Oh wow.. I'm really sorry this happened to you bro and I hope you are able to rebuild it relatively easy. I will have mine by next Friday and I'm super excited to experience what you have already confirmed as being a fantastic ride on a well made wheel. I see I'd better not drop it though.... LOL

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Oh you’ll love it, its such a nicely made wheel and lovely to ride, just be careful since the higher pedal height take some getting use to, have fun and stay safe!

@mikaelhenhammar 3 года назад

Hmm very interesting ..I shall definitely start wearing more Tofu .. I knew it was good for something .

@OWGAC 3 года назад

LOL

@turbofreddy 3 года назад

Glad you're ok, buddy.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!!

@francoisdreesen9684 3 года назад

That really looks like a production failure tyre. It's not easy to to damage a tyre like that. I tried once with a grinder to cut a piece out, i needed a piece of isolation for my antenna project. That was hard labour 😄

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Maybe I should have include an even better close up but it really looks like a rip rather than a cut, so I am with you on the defect theory.

@cap_1stuperman536 3 года назад

I'm a little concerned about this wheel. This makes the 3rd potential hardware/design issue that we've seen in less than a month of release. I'm definitely going to wait to see if these issues are addressed before making a purchase. Thanks for your feedback and glad you're not injured.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Yeah I heard about Marty’s problem with the wheel, but in my case I don’t think the cause of the crash had anything to do with the wheel design, I don’t even think a motorcycle would survive that much damage to a tire.

@msubasic64 3 года назад

Ya it's been a bad 12 hours for the V11 on youtube. I was going to order one, but my faith is shaken.

@Inthewyld 2 года назад

Glad your ok. Was it a hit and run? Or did you leave your insurance info with them?

@ZuberB4 3 года назад

@Hsiang Love your videos and glad you're OK. Amazed how you just bounce back after crashes (mentally I mean). Thinking of getting that helmet. Does it cool well and let you hear ok? The chin guard not as good as full face, but still sold make a big difference I guess...

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Yes you can hear just fine! And much less constrictive and lighter also! It isn’t as good as a full face but I am a lot more willing to be wearing it all the time because it is way more comfortable also!

@davidevans5782 3 года назад

Hi Hsiang, I hope you are recovering well after your fall, I am personally not a fan of wheels with suspension, I much prefer the sure-footed solid wheels, yes the added comfort would be great but the rebound in certain situations is unpredictable. I shall stick with non-suspension wheels for the time being. I wish you a quick recovery mate.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! Try one when you do have the chance since even with this crash I still very much think that they’re the future!

@tascruel 3 года назад

@Hsiang What helmet did you have when you crashed?

@jamesfalconie3030 3 года назад

Glad your ok man👍

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!

@RobHitch 3 года назад

Wow Hsiang! 😱, sorry to hear this. Glad you're ok. Definitely not "Scenario 2" 😉. Suspension failure, causing the wheel to twist to one side, hence the damage around the headlight, maybe? 🤔. Stay safe! 🙏

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I don’t think its the suspension, I did open up the wheel and exam both sides and all the damages were to the upper nozzle where the weight transfer from the saddle and pedal were. I think the suspension did its thing but the tire blowing up was what caused the extra pop

@PaulA-pm3gx 3 года назад

Is it possible that on the downward motion: the shock is compressed, the pedal is at its lowest point and close to the tyre, the tyre is compressed and bulging away from the wheel rim, the tyre comes into contact with the front edge of the pedal hinge, the tyre tears.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Unless the tire is really low on air, in which case there should had been rim damage too with the amount of force required to rip the tire that badly.

@PaulA-pm3gx 3 года назад

@@OWGAC Hi again, didn't mean the tyre being pinched between the road and the rim. The idea is on the way down, the body weight compresses the shock fully and the pedal is at the lowest height, bringing the front leading edge of the pedal hinge within contact range of the tyre. The tyre has been compressed by the downwards body weight, it bulges outwards. The rotating bulging tyre catches on the front leading edge of the pedal hinge and rips. Just a thought. Have a non suspension KS18XL and can see how close to the rim the pedal hinge is. Thanks.

@shopshop9957 2 года назад

My English is not good and I want to know how to set the suspension v11 and S18 / I have both but I don’t know how to set

@videograf. 3 года назад

Super color grading👍 s-log? what lut?

@-racingfan2014 3 года назад

Do you know if its ok to walk the V11 into a store? I’m choosing between mten3 and V11 as first wheel. However the only thing holding me back from V11 is ability to take your EUC into store in NY.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

of all the time I been riding, I have only been stopped twice, so I would say its extremely rare for you to have problem with that.

@ZenLee 3 года назад

Big oooof! At least you'll be riding the Gotway-Ex Soon! I'm at over 500 miles now on my V11, no major issues. Haven't been able to get air in the negative chambers, but it feels great without.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

You should try! It wasn’t hard to take the saddle panels off, prob took me less than a minute to do each side!

@ZenLee 3 года назад

@Hsiang I've tried putting air in, but 90% of it seems to instantly leak out when unscrewing air pump - I'll keep try🙏🙏ing

@Lerxst3333 3 года назад

Glad you’re ok

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!

@FSDinNYC 3 года назад

Wow I'm glad you're okay. I ride in the city on a V8F and strangely now feel safer without a suspension.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! I can’t blame the wheel as a tire blow out would cause any wheel to crash.

@santiagovasquez1404 3 года назад

How about using a tag line like is done with surf boards there will be draw backs with any remedy

@MichaelMutai 3 года назад

u will be attached to a canon ball ...not good...i had a cut out on msp and i wouldnt wanna get attached to 55lbs of tumbling weight

@santiagovasquez1404 3 года назад

@@MichaelMutai yes i agree that it would be a problem. i'm assuming more like bindings on skis, that break away at a certain threshold. It would instantly slow the wheels momentum as well as acting as a brake initially for the fallen rider. at the point of the fall the rider and the wheel are moving at the exact same speed, milliseconds after is when the numbers change due to the wheel no longer carrying the weight of the rider and the rider no longer being carried. if there is a break away system to limit the difference it would probably move the numbers closer and reduce the damage to both objects.

@jacektrybusz1841 3 года назад

If it was hitting anything (a carb or a truck) that damaged the tire and the case, you'd notice a damage on the wheel rim. The rim might even flatened a bit if that happened. This is what I experienced with my Z10 when I hit the pot hole. The tire was cut and the rim was hit and flatened a bit.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Agreed; the amount of force need to make a hole that size would have at least dented the rim and destroy any casing around it!

@jeremydumoit4487 3 года назад

Ouch, sorry! Between this and Marty's experience with the V11, I'm very happy I bought the S18.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

S18 is nice, have fun!

@danielfredrikson3054 3 года назад

It sure sucks that you crashed your wheel, but at least you are ok. I hope that Inmotion can help get your wheel up and running quickly.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! I hope so too!!

@supercurioTube 3 года назад

Glad you're okay and that there was not really other damage than the wheel itself. Your footage shows that the suspension barely compresses, and that your pedal height is probably higher than it should. With too high pressure in the shocks, the lack of sag and lack of travel made the whole wheel bounce instead keeping traction and connecting to your feet.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I prob did have the pressure set a bit high on my wheel, mostly to accommodate all the ppl whom wants to try the wheel. But I have ran over enough manhole covers that it really shouldn’t had been a surprise, this is why I lean towards blaming the tire! No its not because I sucked LOL

@supercurioTube 3 года назад

@@OWGAC it would be very interesting to have an analysis of the tire done by a specialist indeed!

@adamc9047 3 года назад

Hey sorry to hear about this crash and your injuries rest up... take care... best wishes... sometimes you can get strange rebound behaviour from shocks under repeated max travel... this can give quite a jolt unsettling the rider... if you can control the rebound it is best to set it conservatively... I have lost control on MTB several times due to this effect... that cast aluminium frame of the saddle is a worry it tends to be very brittle in shear which it is likely to encounter in that saddle assembly during crashes some tubing would have been better...

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thanks and yes I do need more practice riding a suspension wheel since they do feel very different than a traditional EUC!

@WillofNewZealand 3 года назад

I keep thinking about...what if the tail kick stand had come down from bumps and finally caught that last man hole cover. My last fall on my old air wheel was breaking hard and rear mud gard caught ground and threw me. Ive cut that plastic off.

@FalconPunch1978 3 года назад

I still want one. Rip Hsiang’s V11.. :(

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Me too!! I want my fixed! =D

@wheeliam360 3 года назад

All things considered you came out unscathed it's easier to fix the V11. Meanwhile enjoy your other wheels till you get the parts you need. Also I must mention I added about a half inch of padding on the saddle sides for grip because the saddle is a little slippery that may have helped your situation.👍

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! I thought about it, but the the wheel look so nice and clean, I didn’t want to start covering it up!

@JonS 3 года назад

Do you know for sure that the damage was from the wheel hitting the park truck, or could it have bounced in to the path of a moving vehicle?

@OWGAC 3 года назад

No, it didn’t bounce, sort of just stay up right and roll on and hit the truck, there weren’t any cars in front of me luckily but it did slow down so likely wouldn’t have caught up anyway.

@myoung3199 3 года назад

Lesson learned = just because you have a "suspension system" doesn't mean you should purposely ride over bumps/dips. Maybe dodge them unless un-avoidable next time.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

LOL what fun would that be? I really don’t think it was any issue with the bump or the suspension, if the tire is defective it was just a matter of time before it goes.

@dzvid2746 3 года назад

Hence why most car buyers go for suv because its higher, off the ground but doesnt necessary mean just because you have an suv that you should hit every speed bumps, every curb at max speed or whenever the opportunity arises. Just because your speed limit is 30-60mph doesnt mean you should max it out everytime. Otherwise, every lawmakers will take notice on how dangerous these EUC, EBikes etc and will start banning them all over the city. Dont ruin it for everyone.

@MADpack 3 года назад

Yoo bro.. Hope that you get better and that soon you will be roding the v11 once again

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! And it was soo new and nice =(

@theeucguy 3 года назад

Do you think that maybe the suspension had to much pressure? Increasing your riding height, and making the ride to soft losing control? Essentially spring catapulting you off the V11.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I tried both 100psi and 150psi and it did not seem to make much difference in riding height at least for me.

@LS-jk3fk 3 года назад

Admiteddly my favorite part of these vids is the reactions and stares of peple who are like "wtf is that" or "how is he going so fast"

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I feel like people are way better about it now than a year or two ago. I still remember someone stopped me in the street and asked if I build it myself!

@MissDaisyTheRacoon 2 года назад

how fast were you going?

@fernandofaixa 3 года назад

Ahhh dude, I feel your pain :/ Love!

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!

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@PaulA-pm3gx 3 года назад

Hi Hsiang, is the bottom part of the pedal metal hinge edge able to possibly come in contact with the tyre? When on landing from a height, the pedal is at its lowest height from the ground, when the tyre has been fully compressed and bulging outwards from the wheel rim, is it possible for the tyre to come in contact with the metal part of the pedal hinge? Perhaps check and see if it is possible to determine if the direction of the tear is from the rear end of the EUC towards the front. This would be consistent with contact made with the tyre rolling in the forward motion. Thanks.

@PaulA-pm3gx 3 года назад

Hi again, the location of the rip is towards the side of the tyre. Maybe examine the underside of the EUC on that side to see if there are any bits of tyre, markings, scratches, damage or any other evidence to suggest contact between tyre and EUC undercarriage anywhere. Thanks.

@Quieromuchachas 3 года назад

Hsiang I’m glad you’re ok 🤙🏽

@claudiablasi6137 3 года назад

HI sorry to heard that hopefully you are okay, what happened to the 18S? I Think was more safe.

@ronniejones4794 3 года назад

Did u get it fixed if not wanna sale it,I lost mine due to a flood an I wuz out of town,n need of one badly, lost my job can't afford one brand new and the shitty deal is I have to order it online coz no store n my city or state sale or rent them n KY,...oh an ur vids r lit af keep it up an that wheel down,👌🏾🙏🏾👏🏾🦾🦾👍🏾💯💯💯💯💯

@rayrous8229 3 года назад

Ouch! Keep us updated with regards to the cost of replacement parts. Crash survivability is a big factor in the decision of what wheel to buy. I really enjoy your analysis.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

thank you! yeah unfrotuantely since they are so back logged it'll prob take a while for spare parts to even start becoming available.

@rayrous8229 3 года назад

Sorry to hear that man. Try to stay safe.

@rayrous8229 3 года назад

If you struck a small sharp piece of debris it could easily have been thrown far.

@skyoneproductions1224 Год назад

Could the rip in the tire actually be a blowout? then after you crashed it then grabbed the road and continued to rip? that is a strange rip, I am a motorcycle rider, and a brand new owner of a v11, for my starter.. Think I should have gotten one with the pads lower. but.. no turning back now. thanks.

@samier09 3 года назад

thank god you're ok. there should be a mechanism stopping the EUC. a kind of emergency brake system.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! Needs little parachutes

@samier09 3 года назад

@@OWGAC definitely 👍🏻 or little braking rockets 🚀

@grzib Год назад

Is V11 still good choice in 2023 considering it’s half the price of V13 ?

@wizrom3046 3 года назад

Wow man that sucks! 😥 great to see you survived and landed on your salty eggs haha. 😉 The tire damage most likely happened when it hit the truck. I'm guessing the suspension design that springs your feet (but not the wheel) bounced you off the footpads and caused the crash. People have been mentioning that it feels like the v11 can bounce your feet off the pads. What bothers me is that cast aluminium top handle assembly all smashed up like that. You can see how brittle the cast metal is and the large crystals at the breaks show that metal will be likely to shatter. I think inmotion need to do a redesign there with a stronger material (like forged, or carbon fibre) or larger cross section if they stay with brittle cast metal... maybe just a better quality cast metal, it's a structural component not just a cosmetic one so crappy cast metal is not good enough. 🤔

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Yes me being a bad rider is still def possible, but again I have ridden the v11 through worst bumps and probably hit hundreds of manhole covers (since I aim for everyone I can reach) and I just don’t see how this one could had cause me to loose my balance

@changovanilla 3 года назад

It looks like your pedals are really high. What psi are you using? The higher the psi the more likely it is to throw you off when hitting bumps.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I was riding at 120, the psi don’t effect riding height too much, I tried dropping it to 100 and I am still 9” off the ground.

@pottacoola 3 года назад

@@OWGAC i here a lot of riders say 80 was a good psi even for heavy riders, i was thinking too maybe high or low psi could have caused it.

@wdonnelly7198 Год назад

I had a similar incident. I got bucked off backwards on a similar road hazard. My gear saved me, but my butt took a hard hit unpadded. The wheel continued but did not impact anything. It wobbled and fell over. A saddle attachment bolt broke loose and the headlight housing got cracked slightly. Everything still works, however.

@mikeintampa250 3 года назад

Hi Sean, glad you are relatively ok and sorry about your wheel. 2 questions: Was your V11 covered by insurance? Did the guy in the postal truck try to go after you for any damage to his truck? This has been a bad week for Inmotion.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

The back end of the mail truck is welded steel, the v11 didn’t even make a scratch on it! He was just concerned if I was hurt. Since I have renter insurance my wheel is technically covered but since its a demo and I didn’t pay for it I can’t make a claim either.

@Kay0Bot 3 года назад

it's a iffy situation for renters insurance to cover any 'motorized' vehicle such as EUC. Anyone not sure should call the insurance provider to be sure.

@mikeintampa250 3 года назад

@@OWGAC okay good, so nothing negative financially for you except the loss of a demo wheel; not that that isn't bad but it could be a lot worse like if you were out cash due to a wheel that you had to pay for. Again, my first concern is that you're okay and I'm glad you are.

@milkywayxd1803 3 года назад

Hey wenne do we see new video about v11 what happened to it

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Its still sadly broken, hopefully soon but these things takes time unfortunately

@UStride 3 года назад

FREAK. That's what a subscriber told me would happen if I rode the V11 the way I did on that jump at your demo day, the suspension would kick back and cause me to fly off. That's crazy man. Very poor design unlike the S18 which was designed around the suspension system. Great video, glad you're safe

@DIVA-MC-7 3 года назад

Didn't I tell you that actually😅??

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I mean it feels a bit like a pogo stick but I think it works just as well as chooch had done lots of jump on his V11, but the S18 is tighter partly because of the lower pedal height.

@UStride 3 года назад

@@OWGAC gotcha

@DIVA-MC-7 3 года назад

@@OWGAC s18 has high pedal height UT you can if you want adjust it by 2cm. But it's still pretty high you know, difference is it's nimble, absorbs shocks instead of sending them back to you, and i didn't see chooch do jumps like the s18, do you have a link? At least a pump track or something?

@TheLillianYoung 3 года назад

This is concerning. I know of one rider who uses a strap to keep his wheel from rolling away in such a case. I don’t know how safe that would be for the rider who may then get tangled up with a fallen wheel. However, one thing I like about my Walnutt skateboard is that it stops when you hop off. EUCs need to incorporate that of some safety measure. A truck is one thing. A human or animal is another. Glad you’re okay and thanks for sharing. Now I’m wondering if I should take back my deposit on the V11. Hmm.

@Kay0Bot 3 года назад

A free flying EUC is dangerous, but harness idea just seems to risky to the rider. Imagine needing to bail to avoid a vehicle but having the forward moment drag them under a vehicle. I would look at scooter crashes as example. How many pedestrians have been harmed in scooter crashes? I dont but that data would be interesting to see. Eventually it will happen. A pet or a child of some other person will be severly injured by EUC.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Keep in mind that I only ride that kind of speed when I am in moving car traffic, so for someone to get hit by a wheel they would have to stand in the path of incoming car traffic. It does happen here in NYC but usually they pay attention or they get run over by a car. Leashing the wheel is likely a bad idea as you may turn the predictable straight trajectory of the wheel into a something less predictable while hurting yourself at the same time.

@racquetballnorthwest3917 3 года назад

He could wear a quick release leash which detaches beyond a certain force. A simple version would be a velcro strap which would rip free.

@Jhovan33 3 года назад

@@racquetballnorthwest3917 That's what I was thinking. Velcro. At least slow the wheel down as it moves away.

@gpsanino 3 года назад

@@OWGAC I do use a leash (a plastic coated metal coil) and no problem at all. I use it from the handle to my belt or to the shoelaces. When you fall you do it in the same line as the EUC goes and as a unit. The EUC suffers lesser damage and you prevent hurting others. Without it I would have lost my EUC more than once, riding on extreme Off-Road (Mountains in Chile). Having used them a lot, I do recommend a suitable leash just as we do with other vehicles (e.g. Sufboards).

@delbomb3131 3 года назад

Lol "gear up" followed by clip in teeshirt and shorts with no pads on In all seriousness I'm really glad to see that you're doing good

@OWGAC 3 года назад

LOL you caught me!

@dnldnl4880 3 года назад

Did you adjust suspension looks like you where riding light.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I was riding with too little pressure so the suspension was pretty bouncy, but I still think the pop I got was abnormal. Since now that i am riding the v11 again (and hitting that same pothole) I definitely don’t feel anything like that day.

@DonovanWert 2 года назад

Awesome 😎 thanks bud

@nickanstee4433 3 года назад

Is it possible that you forgot to put the kick-stand to the upper locked into mud guard position before riding and that when you went over that drain it caught the kickstand, dislodged it and in fact it was the sharp end of the kick-stand bar that pierced your tyre like that?

@niknakstoe 3 года назад

@hsiang wrist guard or motorcycle gloves? Which is better?

@MichaelMutai 3 года назад

Wrist guards...from cut out experience....wrist guards any day...

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Wrist guard with the plastic inserts to avoid hyper extension! Moto gloves don’t have those!

@cornellcoleman3765 3 года назад

Heartbreaking, but Im glad you're ok. How many wheels do you have to hold you over?

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I still have my Monster and Z10! Plus I have the S18 demo still so I have been riding that!

@Foxtechhobby 3 года назад

protection gear is always necessary no matter if you were a mature rider or not. we can not fully trust a wheel considering its battery,suspension, balance, electric component,there are so many factors and each of them could cause a bad crash, even the chance is minimal on modern wheels but we can not take the risks.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

not sure if you watched my safety video but gears need to compliment the way you ride also, a full face helmet made it harder for me to turn and look over my shoulder and it is one of the main reason why I don't wear one.

@ihaveriffs8261 3 года назад

Can you/do you have insurance for these? I’ve never owned anything as expensive as these seem to be (it might be another six months before I end up buying one myself) so the idea that a small crash can destroy my brand new wheel isn’t something I’m comfortable with.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

You can ask and see if your home owner/ renter insurance covers it. I imagine you can cover just about anything, I bought insurance on my camera gears for instance

@darkstar4494 3 года назад

Hsiang, did you have to follow up with the mail truck? Did the v11 damage it?

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Oh god no, the rear of the mail truck is welded steel, the v11 probably didn’t even scratch it.

@darkstar4494 3 года назад

Hsiang that’s very fortunate! It could have just as easily crashed into a brand new Tesla. I saw a thread about using leashes under this video, something to consider for me now.

@rickeejay6363 3 года назад

they need to impermeant a weight sensor so if one comes off the euc its can know to apply brakes

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Great idea! there are so many software things they should do to help make these wheels better!

@Papalou1234 3 года назад

glad you ok

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you!!

@landocreamcheese5126 3 года назад

I’d like to know how much the repair was before I pull the trigger on buying one

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I don't have a cost since this wheel did not come from a dealer, but it would likely require a complete case replacement and the control board is fried as well.

@landocreamcheese5126 3 года назад

@@OWGAC damn dude yah that’s too much for me.

@millionairejh 3 года назад

might not be the case but i drove over a abnormally sharp manhole cover with my car once. I think it was elevated out of the ground more than usual. It ended up ripping 2 of car tires the same way and a piece of metal man hole cover broke.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I know what you mean! Some of them have a sharp raised rim but the one I fell on don’t..

@magickpalms4025 3 года назад

i am glad you are alright, but it is sad that the “ultimate commuter wheel” was taken out by a manhole cover 😞 , and shattered in the process

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I am leaning towards tire defect being the cause, if that is the case, then any EUCs would have suffered the same fate.

@Ukreefside 3 года назад

Wow.. sorry to hear that. Surprised it fell to bits like that. My inmotion v8 has had hundreds of crashes and still works like new. Did it damage the truck it hit? Lucky it wasn’t a person.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

No, those trucks are mostly welded steel. Plus I was riding with traffic so there wouldn’t be any pedestrian in front of me either. But yeah the suspension system does make the wheel more complex with more stuff to break.

@mploy1515 3 года назад

Interesting thoughts on the negatives of suspension; has me rethinking my next wheel purchase... I'm on a KS16x now, and thinking about the V11 or Sherman for my next purchase. Unless you have pads, maybe, that keep you vertically in place somewhat, riding a suspension wheel and hitting the perfect bump that launches you up more than you'd like, has me worried. I think im gonna skip a suspension wheel for now (until the tech becomes more mature), and save my money for the Sherman... quick thoughts?

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I still lean towards a tire failure causing my fall, and if that is the case suspension wasn’t the cause. I am still very much in the camp that suspension adds way more benefit than problems. But suspension wheels are more expensive, so that may tip the scale for you.

@mploy1515 3 года назад

@@OWGAC yeah and Sherman is pricey as it is! You think Sherman w/ suspension is just on the horizon? It’s crazy too how heavy these newer premium wheels are. This is clearly gonna be the new norm; and I felt the 16x was already a “heavy” wheel.

@DataGhostGhostware 3 года назад

I love your videos, I wish you would wear more gear. I know it doesn't look cool. But we care about you and want to see many more years of these videos. Great video man.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! Ooh I am long past the days when I care if I looked cool! =D

@DataGhostGhostware 3 года назад

@@OWGAC you and me both!

@Olegggable 3 года назад

Please tell me the model of your helmet.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Check my vid description please!

@petercochrane1992 3 года назад

I think that suspension design on EUC's has a way to go yet. In all probability an EUC for general use would be better with a shorter suspension travel and a simpler design, just enough to help shock absorption protect riders knees and back and also to maintain a more consistent clearance to the ground.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

This is def true and we’re still on gen 1. I do have to say that for Gen 1 I am impressed by the varieties of solutions we have for solving this difficult problem.

@BunnyslippersEUC 3 года назад

Maybe a remote deadman switch would prevent an EUC from riding further. A bluetooth remote with multiple options. - deadman switch - speed switch: cruise, full speed etc. - enable lights - etc.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Remember it is a 60lbs weight traveling at 26mph+ not a lot you can do to slow down something like that

@petercochrane1992 3 года назад

Glad that you survived OK. You sound as if you are hoping that the crash was caused by the burst tyre. The burst tyre was almost certainly caused during the crash impact. I have been riding wheels for 4 years and motor cycles for almost 60 years and have suffered burst or rapidly deflating tyres on both. The effect in both cases would not have been what you experienced, for one thing you would have fallen forward possibly after a wobble and not backwards and the wheel would probably not have been able to race away as you described.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Well I went back and forth on this one, my original thought was that the gash was caused by the impact with the truck, but I just don’t see it being fast enough or the impact hard enough for the tire to be damaged that badly, the wheel was still upright when it hit, and the big impact looks to be on top of the handle since I think it hit the lower corner of the mail truck bumper. And if the gash line up with the crack on the side cover its at rear right of the wheel so again, shouldn’t be involved in the initial impact. One of the guys here said they have seen a tire rip because of defect and it looks like it. Also, I felt around the inner tube and I don’t feel a big hole, so the tire might have rip in the initial bump but complete deflation may have taken longer.. but theories of course and I wished I had my camera rolling!

@yahboiflip1337 3 года назад

Hope your ok bro just another day

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I am fine thank you!!

@195Bucks 3 года назад

Sorry to hear about your crash Hsiang!.. Good to see and hear that you are okay!.. I'm sure you will soon have your V11 repaired although from experience its horrible to see your pride and joy all battered and scratched! ☹️...it's very disheartening!.. At least it doesnt appear to have knocked your confidence. What pressure did you have in your tyre? 🤔.... The drawback with the Inmotion V10/11 is the high centre of gravity you ride at, there's less chance for you to recover should anything go wrong!.. Hope you discover what caused the accident!.. Cheers!.. 👍...

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Thank you! I did not measure it but it feels like the tire was around 25psi! I am hoping that I can repair it soon too since I miss riding this wheel!

@195Bucks 3 года назад

@@OWGAC Well if your tire was under pressure then that could have caused a blowout...would explain the hole in the tire. What pressure is recommended for that wheel?...For my 18XL it is around 40psi... an under-inflated tyre is just as dangerous as an over-inflated tyre and the amount of friction and heat generated on an under-inf. tyre could well cause a blowout, the manhole surface could have been the catalyst? 🤔...

@ajalvarez1387 3 года назад

Hopefully you’re OK! I’m glad you wear your helmet and your pads!! Because if you didn’t you wouldn’t have a pretty Face right now making this video!🤪👍

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I am fine. LOL pretty face you sure you watching my videos?

@ichallenge288 3 года назад

I do believe as you said you felt your feet leave the EUC when it happened. In that case since the EUC landed first it probaby continued acceleration and your acceleration slowed. That cause your feet to move 1/2 way back on the foot pad and tilted you back which might of caused you to slip off the EUC. Being off balanced when landing back on the foot plate with your wieght off the footpad since your heels are off the foot plate now made you tilt back and kick the EUC forward. I think putting some grip pads on the side of EUC to help with floating and sliding back on foot pad would help alot for air times. I purchased a S18 on the way and I think watching your video that's another thing I'll definately do. Don't want my feet to land where I don't expect it when I'm floating during a bump or jump. Thanks for video, it definately helps me think how to ride safer.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I am sort of on the fence about the speed pads. Some of the veteran riders (like Tishawn) think hat they teach bad habits and that you should learn to control the wheel without relying on them, I personally only have some thinner home made one on my monster, maybe it would have help here? Not sure..

@williamCmd 3 года назад

the only explanation so far that makes sense. v11 un-ridable with battery below 18%, burnt up Before OHH, and throwing rider off with no grip. KS S18 now look like a better choice.

@lysambodia 3 года назад

Hi Hsiang, love your helmet, how can I get one ? Cheers

@OWGAC 3 года назад

Check my vid description!

@gordonmculloch4904 3 года назад

Landing on your back sounds like you were bucked off the wheel. This might be due to the wrong pressure on the suspension ; too soft. Glad that you were not too badly hurt. Cheers 👍

@OWGAC 3 года назад

I also tend to lean back both as a reaction to try to regain balance and to prepare for a fall since falling in the seated position usually minimize damage for me. Lots of practice from years of snowboarding and rollerblading...

@gordonmculloch4904 3 года назад

Hsiang: Good tactic. Better than face planting. 👍

@dmgladden Год назад

Hi I know this is a 2 year old video but I'm just about to get my V11 and watching you reminded me of an idea I one head of attaching a lanyard between me and my wheel and wonded if you thing your V11 would have sustained less damage if you had such on your at the time. David

@MGSSnakeEater100 3 года назад

I was this close of purchasing either a Kingsong S18 or Inmotion V11. But after seeing this I might get the Veteran Sherman because of speed, range, and more importantly the roll cage.

@OWGAC 3 года назад

They are very very different wheels, the V11 is a perfect commuter, the s18 an off-road beast and the Sherman a high speed wheel. Its like comparing a Mercedes to a BMW to a Ferrari!