I Did Not Expect This: 3 Years in Rust Remover 

You had it in a stainless steel bowl. I wouldn’t doubt if some kind of plating happened. Sometimes with brass tools in evaporust it will put a layer or brass on everything.

does it taste any better for maturing for three years?

So CRC purchased Evaporust? Is that why they haven't sponsored your more recent videos?

I did this years ago in a plastic container. Same result. And its still in the solid goo.

Reduced iron oxides frequently make green colors

I had the same guess when he said that the dull finish is mill scale/a type of oxide. Would find it rather remarkable if a chemical were able to distinguish between rust (unwanted oxide) from surface finish (wanted oxide). But of course aliens is always a possibility. 😉

I would further speculate that the hardness, coarseness, and anti-corrosive nature of the surrounding compound combined with frequent exposure to potential extremes of temperature (e.g. shop heated during working hours in winter, then left to cool at night after closing) might have had a molecular sanding effect on the wrench on top of the oxide layer getting blasted off. The places on the wrench where corrosion built after the fact were either where the wrench physically contacted the stainless steel bowl, or where some fault in the compound extended down to the wrenches surface. Super neat, though!

With where the dark spots of corrosion are on the wrench, it seems that it could be a (obviously very slow/weak) reaction between the rust remover, the iron, and the metal that the bowl is made of (or its plating).

absolutly right.....

@@ruaine83 I suspected this as well, but looking how the components lay in the bowl it seems that the spots are actually at corners that were not touching the bowl, but were most exposed to air.

“For best results, allow product to harden and leave sitting for three years”

​@@dashcroft1892Chisel and hammer recommended for removal of cleaned parts

XD dude@@dashcroft1892

Nobody got time for that

Well don't leave metal in vinegar that long would disappear literally

As for the latter part i am guessing the black oxide finish.

Funny you should say, there's a US SDS and an ISO MSDS public on their website. However they do not declare any ingredients; they merely declare that none of their ingredients are recognised as hazardous material, which is perhaps why they didn't feel they need to declare them. Perhaps you can draw some conclusions from other data in there, if you'd like to take a look. One of their importers Ströbel publishes its own EU MSDS which reads Water >83%; Non-hazardous chelating agent, proprietary,

@@SianaGearz🧐🤔……… how interesting!!!! Thank You for this insight into how such games are played. ✌️😊

every commercial user (except individuals?) needs to have a paper copy of the SDS (they changed the name for no reason) of every chemical they use in a visible location, so they're extremely easy to find online. the manufacturer can obscure trade secrets and list complex mixes of chemicals under a general name and evap-o-rust does both.

The MSDS is worthless for Evapo-Rust. Makes me so frustrated as I want to know what's in it. They have only ever said it's not EDTA, but a chelating agent, a sulfur compound, and a detergent/antiox. But that could be anything.

Hahahaha

@@HandToolRescue I would totally buy that shirt!

@@mohawkman2888 me too!

Or fail to digest...

I almost spit out my steak.

That's what Evapo-rust said...

Yeah, that’s probably actually what happened, the tiny particles were aligned in suspension either by the earth’s magnetic field, or perhaps some other field nearby, EG wrench may have accidentally become slightly magnetic, and remained so as the solution reduced until there was nothing, leaving it very slight magnetic.

ahah, i was about to write a comment on this black crust, which seems to be magnetite (Fe3O4). Would be a good idea to test it indeed.

​​@@Nevir202my money is on earth. there wouldn't be any sources of a sufficiently strong 24/7 magnetic field in his shop. that's how the lode stones formed that the Vikings used as compasses. molten iron ore slowly solidifying with the iron being aligned by the Earth's field. 🤓👍

Black iron oxide (as used as coating) is just magnetite. Which well, is easily magnetized, which is where its name comes from.

Bingo! Iron atoms have N/S - the earth’s magnetic field aligned them and then ‘froze’ in place during evaporation.

I was just about to say that because I remembered watching a video where Walter Sorrels transformed iron oxide on a wrought iron tsuba into hematite with the use of vinigar, heat and patience. XD

"Hi, my name is Ian McCollum and in today's Forgotten Tools video I'm going to show you the rarest prototype of the EvapoCrust Wrench developed by the famous HTR Company of Canada."

Whoa! Could you stop it! I was going to offer to buy it!!! Now you ruined it for me!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

Send him some goo! It doesn't even have to cross any international borders! But is it considered a hazardous material?

I've actually sent him some emails before, but he never responded, possibly because he hates Nutella. Maybe if we all email him it can get noticed?

@@HandToolRescue Devious Plan. But it's gotta work, right? Or maybe we can have This Old Tony do a taste test.

everyone spam @NileRed in the comments and ruin his mentions.

If all else fails, send it to AvE to see if old Uncle Bumblef**k can make heads or tails of it.

He's got what looks like a 55-gallon drum of it elsewhere in the shop. About $1000, which is pretty reasonable if you're removing rust from lots of parts as part of a job (like this channel). Particularly because of how re-usable it is.

nice pfp

@@PeregrineBF Yes, it's a lot more expensive here in the UK. Or it can be (the price fluctuates). For instance, at present a 55 US gallon drum of it would cost about £1,486.485 or around $1,840.71.

Thank you! I have the whole bowl left! Email me. handtoolrescue@gmail.com

Awesome offer, can't wait for the results

This chap is a hero.

I'm excited to learn the results!

“Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz” It had to be said! I hope lab results confirm this substance would have achieved plaid in another light year of being in sublimation!

Commenting to boost parent comment. Mr. Incredible pointing at the table saying "oxide is oxide!"

Also boosting... rust is rust even if you do call it mill scale :)

My first thought, too.

Same!

I know gun folks have complained about people who use Evaporust on blued steel finishes since it also removes the oxides that make up that finish. So I think this is very likely.

Hmmmmm, I have not cleaned the bowl out yet, but maybe there is something there...

So, yeah, this seems like a really good possibility. I know with a copper plated item I put in evaporust and forgot about, that there were some galvanic results. I suspect that you pulled some portion of nickel and/or chromium out of the bowl.

spot on, saw a similar thing in a detroit factory way before said dude created rust. i wonder if this caused the owners of the laborers to move all the jay-oh-B~S to a place with virgin labor candidates.

The stainless steel of the bowl contains chromium so maybe there is chrome deposition taking place too.

ITS THE DEBOWL!!!!

He actually does have a PhD in biochemistry I think

@@somethingsnowing Yes, indeed. They talk about it on FitZall podcast.

So that's why my car is falling apart.

Inventing and spreading rust all around the world was actually good for tool restoration business

I would like to know why he did this. Before 1993 we were so much happier without rust in our stuff.

Yule log to toothpick was insane.

@@TASTYTREATSPLS My wife was PISSED that I watched the whole thing.

@@LegoDork I had it on in the background while I did other shit.

Best smelling penetrating oil is one of my all time favourite movies.

@@tahliel I literally died when the brake clean came out.

normally when you pull stuff out of evaporust its blackish in color. I used it to clean a bunch of old screwdriver bits and they where black as night after 6 hours. Mind you this was in the stuff for 3 years, so its a wonky amount of time anyways.

yup. blueing something is just rusting it. but in a controlled way so the oxide layer is even and consistent.

We mortals sit in astonishment that HTR has not yet upgraded his chair with utlra-precision bearings or at least a LOT of babbitt. And/or a two-stroke gas engine to rotate effortlessly on the part of the occupant.

With a magnet that strong, it's possible it was causing induced magnetism which might seem to cause polarity. Things are generally either attracted or not attracted, that appeared to be just barely attracted. I'm not sure what to make of that fact tbh

@@skeetsmcgrew3282 It's called paramagnetic, something that only becomes magnetic in the presence of a strong magnetic field. Liquid oxygen on an electromagnet is the cool lab demo usually done to show it.

For that price, I’d make my own.

@@BlackSoap361 all of us DIYers end up saying things like that and then take 4 years and $400000 to make our own

In West Philadelphia born and raised In the scrapyard was where I spent most of my days Chillin' out, waxin', relaxin', all cool And throwin' some wrenches outside in the pool Past a couple of days, which was really no good Wrenches turning red right where they stood I got one little look and they felt all crusty I said, "These solid steel wrenches look like they are rusty!"

@@HandToolRescue now that sounds like the worst excuse I've heard in my life.

@@HandToolRescue this is the second reason why I love this channel

That is a very good explanation! 🎶🎶🎶🎶

He did it to drive economic progress and innovation through planned obsolescence.

Hahahaha

He he he he, you said hard.

3 more years in a sealed container

Would the black layer have some properties of hematite?

I believe there is this channel, and one dude running 5 others.... there is definitely something fishy about all those German ones.

That thing got a Hemi?

@@leeroyholloway4277 you win!

Unfortunately, it was defective in some way so it probably won't be a decent comparison.

The right way to do this would be to mass the wrench before putting it in the evaporust for 3 years, and then after.

all right then, lets head back in time and find out!

Thank you. Short of a time machine, the only way we could REALLY know is to do the experiment again. I would bet cash money the mass difference between "identical wrenches" is on the order of the amount of mass removed from the wrench by the evaporust. That makes it very difficult to use a different wrench to determine how much mass was leached by the original. For instance, this Particular wrench should be heavier than any other he grabs off the shelf, since he highlights the hole for the screw was not drilled out deep enough to close the jaws. That mass is probably more than the amount of evaporust-removed material. If we massed a new wrench and the old wrench we would likely draw the false conclusion that the old wrench GAINED mass from sitting in the evaporust.

Same! Do you watch Episiotomy on Netflix?

Geez. I’ve had to watch two first hand. Apparently it’s supposed to be one of the best things you’ll ever witness. I’d honestly rather a stalk had just left a baby on the doorstep. Why you’d want to watch that on TV for pleasure I’ll never know.

But then we would have a Schrodinger's Wrench situation... The wrench would eternally be in a quantum superposition situation...

It probably will rust faster than mill scale, it doesn't have any sort of passivation layer.

Damn! The first 500 were hand finished by me.

Maybe?

The bowl is stainless steel, so maybe?

recently dealt with some parts i had left to derust in a sealed container, so i can speak to this on the scale of months, not years... in my case the solution turned very dark/black, and there was a moderate vacuum seal upon opening the container, so clearly a reaction was continually consuming gases. also, there was a very strong sulfur-y/metallic smell upon opening it my first guess was oxygen dissolving into solution, reacting with the bare metal, and then being removed by the evaporust. but i'm not very satisfied with that option on a hunch, i set aside 250mL or so of the dark solution in an uncovered flask, and a couple of weeks later noticed the solution was yellow again, and a thin layer of precipitate had formed at the bottom of the flask (unsure if that was new, or present in the dark solution and took a while to settle out?) based on this, i now wonder if molecular oxygen plays a role between the chelation and "magic sulfur compound" steps, or if the lack of it disrupts some equilibrium sufficiently to cause the whole reaction to follow a different path? (not a chemist, just hypothesizing with the knowledge and observations i have)

@@v-1nce Good observations -- And fascinating! Moving into my late 70's I truly regret never taking a chemistry course...

The forbidden Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.