August, I have done this so many times, to many to count, when I was still doing landscape work. I would always kick my own butt. I would look at the job and think I was Superman and the job ended up taking way longer then I thought. I totally feel your pain.
Appreciation is 90% of why I do what I do and I don't mind helping people. Gotta pay our bills after payouts to everyone and dump. Everyone has a hand out to take our money away lol. Good job and good man that's all I can say.
That homeower is going to be so happy they received such a great value .....they will tell all their friends. and that will bring more jobs... Its like getting free advertising.... Great job and stay safe..
@@AugustHunicke yup. For every job you underbid, you have 5 excited referrals anticipating your great services at a "fair price". Lord I cringe when I see those come in haha. Don't fire yourself. Just bid it so that you're smiling while doing the work!
It ain't nuthin but trucks, saws, and labor man. Dang ol' backwards cash flow man! Ha ha! Back in the late 80s, there was a 90+ year old woman in our little community who was known for being tight with money. She would let her yard get up really tall because nobody wanted to mow it for a quarter. Seriously, 25 cents. Once a local farmer got in there with a tractor and bush hog just to knock down the wild yard next to some of his kin for free. She had money, everyone knew it. We mowed the neighboring yard of the church and school...she told us we could just run those machines right around the fence and mow hers real quick...she said she couldn't afford to pay us, but she was sure we would be glad to get the work😂 No thank you!
$1500 does seem very cheep. At one time, I would have thought it was a good pay day, but considering all of your equipment, and the crew it's not enough; unless maybe you can finish the job in an hour or two.
Enjoyed the video. Whew! Quite a job. I've cut myself short in the past. So many "cheap" so called "tree services" out there. Everybody thinks they can work on trees. Anyone can buy a chainsaw and spurs and harness, etc.....but they can't buy the smarts to go with them. I've "cleaned up" a few jobs for customers after a shyster left them high and dry. I'm sure you were mad/sad all the day at having underbid the job. A good job is coming round the bend. Thanks for sharing.
I haven’t watched this video yet but just ready the title and MAN I underbidded a job yesterday , i charged $150 for a leaf clean up and that shyt turned out to be like $400 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 MAN
Try the 2000 bucks per day and 1000 for half a day? That's based on what another tree company does. They didn't mention a thousand for half a day though. They have a tall bucket truck, chipper and chipper truck so can really get stuff done and get it gone.
Sound like you need to get a job for a real tree company till you learn what this work is actually worth. Under bidding is an epidemic and horrible for the industry
You can't win them all. You helped the Homeowner,and your helping your Niece. You did a good Deed. With the Crane ,and everything else you had to do that was cheap. Gods going to Bless you for all those times you stuck your neck out.
I hate doing it. But if i underbid, i do try to renegotiate. Sometimes customers are understanding, sometimes they arent and we still finish the project. Though its uncomfortable, i dont believe its immoral as many others seem to. If you are open and honest, and have a good reputation people generally will try to work with you.
Interested on why it was bid so cheap? Is everyone as broke as people are here in California also in Oregon ? I’d say $2500 would be in the low end here. But overall great work bud
Don't feel bad i think we all do it sometimes or another i just did one that i bid on when i was cold outside and really needed the work and now im really busy and they called me to do it
I just did this yesterday lol, priced a job at $950 to leave everything on site when I really should've said $1800. This job you're doing easily $2500-$3k?
I am a terrible estimator. I have the best estimator, he is fair in every way but understands that the business needs to make money. I think Evan would make a really good estimator, send him on some bids and pay him 10% commission. PS, I would have bid it for $1500 too but I bet my estimator would have gotten about $2500 so pretty big difference.
Win some lose some. Learn from mistakes and move forward, try not to let it happen again. I believe too strong of a desire to land jobs leads to underbidding. I've made that mistake many times. I did a job early on for 1/3 of the price it should have been. I did another job where the guy was like "Wow you're way cheaper than the last guy." I knew then I had underbid it. My goal is to get to where I don't worry about finding work, it finds me, and I bid it properly because I'm not worried about getting it.
I didn’t make V cuts here. They were more shelf cuts. First cut on the binding side to make room for the tree to travel away from the pinch on the second cut.
Looks like a dead spruce across the street from that job. Maybe, they will call you after they find out how great of a price there neighbors got. Look at it this way, at least you got to do something you love doing that had some payback; maybe even cost you less than a full tank of fuel for the airplane 😏. See you on the next video.
The market for tree work is terrible right now. Too many tree companies in every area and they’re all fighting to survive driving down prices. Better start planting trees, at this rate, in 20 years the industry will be done…every fighting to remove the last few declining trees.
I don't know, I paid $1500 for work on 3 Maple trees / no clean up. they took out the overhanging wood over the garage on 2 the 3rd was a tri dominate and they brought it down completely leaving 20 foot trunks on all 3 trees serviced. No crane, 2 guy's in a bucket truck. He told me it would have been $3500 if they cleaned up.
I got a crane job scheduled next week for big co dom Fir over house .. my crane guy is charging 2200$ for crane and climber .. I’ll prob charge around 2 grand to clean and remove logs and debris ..
I'm seeing a trend where I live, small-town area. If I don't under bid the job, I don't get it. Definitely has something to do with people being broke these days, I guess sometimes I would rather make a little than nothing
I myself often underbid. But I keep wondering why treeworkers as far as I know, give bids? Why not work by the hour? In my country you can’t get a carpenter, mechanic, electrician, hairdresser to give you a bid. It’s always by the hour. What do we need to do to change this?
We work too fast to be getting paid hourly lol. Give you an example: $1200 to remove a pine tree that takes us about 1-2 hours tops most of the times hour and half, move on to do 3-4 more jobs for the day.
August that's alright, after 35 years, I probably have underbid 250,000 in treework. To keep our business going, to keep paying the bills, a treeman will do ANYTHING. It is what it is. Be safe Tree Warrior. 🌳
When using the zig zag in an MRS setup on a spar you should run your climb line through a friction saver. The friction saver will cinch down on the spar so that you can descend down the spar if need be. Without the friction saver, your climb line could slide down the spar as you descend.
Appreciation is 90% of why I do what I do and I don't mind helping people. Gotta pay our bills after payouts to everyone and dump. Everyone has a hand out to take our money away lol. Good job and good man that's all I can say.
