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I Don't Mind Twisting In This Vintage Cube Draft 

Luis Scott-Vargas
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Lurrus, Dark Ritual, and Mind Twist - the start of a great draft.
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@khornii8129
@khornii8129 5 месяцев назад
LSV noting that swords is gone (4:00) , proceeds to swiftly pick Thopter foundry 5 minutes later
@TheMathmath123
@TheMathmath123 5 месяцев назад
I had the same thought I was like I'm pretty sure I already saw a sword of the meek 😂
@sjake8308
@sjake8308 5 месяцев назад
This is what age does your brain. Don't grow old, folks! 😆
@mclark347
@mclark347 5 месяцев назад
Cursed Scroll *is* any target. It just predates Planeswalkers. You had already passed Sword of the Meek when you took Thopter Foundry. It was in Pack 1.
@melonwatcher
@melonwatcher 5 месяцев назад
One thing I've noticed with my Lurus decks is that even when I don't actually summon Lurrus very often, they have a high win rate. I think there's a lot to be said for almost always having plays on turns 1, 2 and 3 and using all your mana all the time.
@7deuc2e38
@7deuc2e38 5 месяцев назад
I personally love playing against lurus decks. Every now and then you'll get dumpstered by one with lotus but usually they're pretty fair decks
@peewee0224
@peewee0224 5 месяцев назад
Also sometimes your opponent is gonna hold removal for the lurrus
@BarginsGalore
@BarginsGalore 4 месяца назад
@@7deuc2e38without something like lotus a lurrus deck is usually 1 for 1ing and then out carding you with lurrus. good but fun
@josephbilling3886
@josephbilling3886 5 месяцев назад
40:40 math. Find the probability that vamp is left in hand AND archon is discarded when 3/5 cards are discarded randomly. Probability that archon is discarded = 3/5. Probability that vamp is left in hand GIVEN archon is discarded = 2/4. P(both) = (3/5) x (2/4) = 30% you lose on the spot. ***** Note: The events are not independent so you cant just you a formula like P(A) x P(B) = P(A and B) which would have given (3/5) x (2/5) = 24%
@maltramac
@maltramac 5 месяцев назад
The way I ran the numbers was, there's (5 choose 2) = 5 * 4 / 2 = 10 equally likely outcomes for what two out of five cards are left in the opponent's hand, and three of these outcomes are "Vamp + a non-Archon card", which yeah, comes out to 30%.
@alexanderdickens2517
@alexanderdickens2517 5 месяцев назад
Love the addition of Thought-Knot Seer, it’s always seemed in the spirit of cube that there should be exactly one Eldrazi-mana card
@Joeks0303
@Joeks0303 5 месяцев назад
The Lurrus over Leovold when he had twister was a really interesting pick. Hindsight is always 20/20, but if you go in that direction, you get narset as another draw seven punisher, subtlety, noble, Oko, echo as a second draw seven, grief over twist? and sylvan library and end up with a pretty sweet looking sultai control deck with a draw seven package
@Waghabond
@Waghabond 5 месяцев назад
Lurrus is a LOT better than leo imo especially because the only incompatible card LSV had drafted at that point was solitude. And tbh personally i'm not convinced the sultai control would have been that good because LSV didnt see many decent removal spells in those colours during the draft.
@mattie3875
@mattie3875 5 месяцев назад
That would have been a fun path, but at that point you are hoping to pull more stuff to make Lurris consistently a good card in every single game. A little more fast mana and this would have been a contender
@zacharyadler4071
@zacharyadler4071 5 месяцев назад
I found it interesting how even though you weren't quite right with the probabilities you were very close both times just based on intuition. You were like "a bit less than 40% actually" and yep it's 30%. For an exact calculation I'd just count the outcomes, can be done easily during your turn because it is quick 3 ways it goes bad (vamp + city left, vamp + lutri left, vamp + 5th card left) 5 choose 3 total ways to pick 3 cards out of 5 (just google 5 choose 3 it is equal to 10) So the chance the bad thing happens is 3/10
@TaisxD
@TaisxD 5 месяцев назад
As others have mentioned Cursed Scroll is any target. I'll just mention that this counts for any old card that says 'creature or player'. Incinerate is a classic example of one.
@asdfjajsjajsj9410
@asdfjajsjajsj9410 5 месяцев назад
sandydog is so funny. gotta respect sticking to a strategy.
@BarginsGalore
@BarginsGalore 4 месяца назад
that game 1 was the biggest crossover between fair and absolutely disgusting i’ve ever seen
@brianh5844
@brianh5844 5 месяцев назад
In M1G3, 50:20, you can still win by flashing back dark ritual with Jace for enough mana to tar pit + gix's command.
@mattie3875
@mattie3875 5 месяцев назад
Nice catch!
@IzzRei
@IzzRei 5 месяцев назад
Game 1 was a thing of beauty
@mikejbona
@mikejbona 5 месяцев назад
I always love seeing Skullclamp's +1/+0 ability be relevant when it made the Creeping Tarpit lethal! This deck is straight out of Marshall's ub tempo dreams! Thank you for the content!
@ultimateo621
@ultimateo621 5 месяцев назад
It’s 40% that he has vamp and assuming he has vamp it’s 75% that you hit archon, so 30% of the time he will keep vamp and get to put archon in the graveyard
@riveradam
@riveradam 5 месяцев назад
I arrived at the same answer from the other direction: it's 60% to hit archon, and when you do you discard 2 of your 4 other cards, so it's a 50% chance in that case to also miss vamp ... 60% x 50% = 30%
@PPolycephalum
@PPolycephalum 5 месяцев назад
Another way to think about it: There are 10 possible 2-card pairs you could be left with after twisting for 3. Each has a 10% chance of occurring. Of these 4 have vamp tutor. Out of those 1 also has archon so 3 do not and there is a 3*10%=30% of having vamp tutor and discarding archon.
@sjake8308
@sjake8308 5 месяцев назад
There's also a non-zero chance the opponent's unknown card is an animate (at least 2/30), which makes the equation slightly worse for LSV.
@paulgray4646
@paulgray4646 5 месяцев назад
Here is an easy way to think about the vamp/archon problem you talked about. - After making them discard, they have 2 cards left. There are 10 possible hands when you start with 5 and discard down to 2 (5 choose 2 is 10). -Of those 10 hands, 3 of them are vamp plus something other than archon (meaning archon went to the graveyard, which is the bad place for it). -So there was a 30% chance you would leave vamp in hand with archon in the graveyard. Sometimes you just got to count things to make sense of them :)
@kpatterson14206
@kpatterson14206 5 месяцев назад
For a second there I thought the Japanese businessman from IT Crowd was upstairs testing out his new boots.
@jairomy
@jairomy 5 месяцев назад
Solitude being in solitude in the sideboard is a travesty.
@patmepin15
@patmepin15 5 месяцев назад
loooove these low curve Lurris/Bob decks!!
@BearPondersGames
@BearPondersGames 5 месяцев назад
One day Updraft will not disappoint LSV. Lol
@irifhir
@irifhir 5 месяцев назад
Those pilars on Unearth's illustration really seems like flipping me off
@Ben-pv4ve
@Ben-pv4ve 5 месяцев назад
At 40:55, the chance that you take archon (A) and leave vampiric tutor (B) should be the chance that you take archon given you left vampiric tutor, times the chance that you left vampiric tutor: P(A,B) = P(A|B) * P(B) = (.75) * (.40) = 30% If anyone is interested, they can look up conditional probability for more details.
@IzzRei
@IzzRei 5 месяцев назад
I can’t with these puns😂
@thegrumpydeveloper
@thegrumpydeveloper 5 месяцев назад
I love these titles almost as much as the videos. Let’s twist again.
@victorm.3279
@victorm.3279 5 месяцев назад
Sorry this might be a stupid question : is there a reliable source where to get this cube list ? I am a member of the Discord server but I couldn't find a link to the updated list. And there are a lot of lists on cube cobra with the "vintage" and "LSV" tags.
@maxbaymiller8944
@maxbaymiller8944 5 месяцев назад
It is hard to search. There's a link in description of one of the first videos he drafts it
@Hopkins0316
@Hopkins0316 5 месяцев назад
I've noticed LSV NEVER notices when sword of the meek is in his packs lol. He always notices thopter foundry but never SotM
@mattie3875
@mattie3875 5 месяцев назад
He did call it out as going by, though might not have remembered
@peeporiot9948
@peeporiot9948 5 месяцев назад
*shudders in PTSD from Dockside cEDH loops*
@austinsilva3049
@austinsilva3049 5 месяцев назад
Is the cube list posted somewhere? Thanks!
@ItsWeiner
@ItsWeiner 5 месяцев назад
I’d be curious about your opinion on adding prosper tomb bound to the cube. Card advantage, mana refunding, has a good stat line with death touch and has some nice synergy with Inti/ragavan/laelia
@benjaminsouthworth5698
@benjaminsouthworth5698 5 месяцев назад
It’d probably be pretty marginal but it’s a card to check out for sure
@mattie3875
@mattie3875 5 месяцев назад
Similarly I wonder how ObNix Kingpin might do
@mattwecrazy3236
@mattwecrazy3236 4 месяца назад
Entomb vengeance off the top?? I would be sooo on tilt!
@Zaakar
@Zaakar 5 месяцев назад
Have you considered Jaheira, Friend of the Forest for the cube? I think she might be a really good mana engine in some decks.
@mattduchan251
@mattduchan251 5 месяцев назад
Lsv forgetting about sword of the meek passed in pack 1 ;-)
@jordanewers5375
@jordanewers5375 5 месяцев назад
Do you prefer the Weatherlight art? Invasion is way better IMO
@danluckey269
@danluckey269 5 месяцев назад
So sad seeing sword go pack 1 and LSV holding out hope for it to go with thopter pack 3. 😢😢😢
@LastFanStanding12
@LastFanStanding12 5 месяцев назад
an uncharacteristic oversight on LSV's part
@subtleknife1
@subtleknife1 5 месяцев назад
I mean sure but there was literally nothing else in that pack I think it’ll be ok. “So sad” is kinda dramatic
@danluckey269
@danluckey269 5 месяцев назад
@@subtleknife1it’s literally the worst thing that has happened to me personally all day.
@89lex
@89lex 5 месяцев назад
​@@subtleknife1 He did mentionned Sword was gone in pack 1 though. So it just stings a little that he doesn't remember it afterwards.
@Qternocq
@Qternocq 5 месяцев назад
Both Teferi's we're lastpicks 😢
@DrMonty-ng5fo
@DrMonty-ng5fo 5 месяцев назад
Cursed Scroll was errataed, it can hit planeswalkers now. As far as I'm aware, Firesong and Sunspeaker is the only card in the entire game that can only hit creatures and players, but not planeswalkers. Now you have some completely useless trivia to brag about, lol.
@Anusien
@Anusien 5 месяцев назад
Sarah’s Wings 🤣🤣
@brunofernandes3597
@brunofernandes3597 5 месяцев назад
Sword of the meek was on P1 all along...
@amills12334
@amills12334 5 месяцев назад
1:02:37 Bob vs Bob at home
@irifhir
@irifhir 5 месяцев назад
Engagement
@ryanboyington7941
@ryanboyington7941 5 месяцев назад
Still asking for a guest appearance of BK please!
@OneSingleNail
@OneSingleNail 5 месяцев назад
7 months of these videos and Sandy is still on W/R aggro 90% of the time
@TheDray008
@TheDray008 5 месяцев назад
What do cube fans think of adding grand architect to a cube? It's a nonbo with thopter foundry but I feel it could still be pretty broken at times.
@benjaminsouthworth5698
@benjaminsouthworth5698 5 месяцев назад
It seems similar to unctus which isn’t a very exciting card, although it’s not unplayable tbf.
@46jerdboy
@46jerdboy 5 месяцев назад
Has LSV ever drafted white in this cube?
@fpejanovic
@fpejanovic 5 месяцев назад
yea in the 5c decks he sometimes plays a card that includes white in its mana cost
@Stokkeland23
@Stokkeland23 5 месяцев назад
Why is Graveyard Trespasser in the Cube ? It's last pick every time and if you end up with a deck that plays it it's pretty much a garbage deck :D
@kylemckiernan1445
@kylemckiernan1445 5 месяцев назад
15:49 looking for a sword of the meek that was already opened but he didnt notice 😢
@cesarramon4636
@cesarramon4636 5 месяцев назад
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@turbobrew
@turbobrew 5 месяцев назад
I really like seeing all the new cards in your cube. The current mtgo list is getting pretty stale.
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