I don't normally Pre-Order stuff... - AVerMedia @ Computex 2023

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We stopped by the AVerMedia booth at Computex 2023 to check out their TWO new HDMI 2.1 capture cards: one that's PCIe, and one that's more portable- and uses USB-C instead of Thunderbolt! These are awesome!
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0:00 AVerMedia's 2023 offering
0:15 The Internal Card
2:10 The External Card
4:25 Installing the Internal Card
5:24 Testing it on a PlayStation 5
6:22 *BIG ASTERISK*
8:18 Trying their Software
9:50 Testing the External Card
10:40 Pricing and Release Date

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@ShortCircuit Год назад

Correction for the note at 11:19: Though you do plug the external card in via USB-C, Jake DID mean to say UVC! UVC (or USB Video Class) means that you can plug in the capture cards and Windows will support it without any separate drivers.

@solomoncyj Год назад

alright

@eliteschw31n64 Год назад

Could also work with linux, needs to be tested by someone

@eliteschw31n64 Год назад

Anyways, its great to see that the manufacturers are switching from their own solution to uvc, allows easier control for 3rd party software and doesnt require extra drivers/software :) i will order the pcie as soon as its aviable in germany (i literally waited for a ucv one)

@wateryevents960 Год назад

@@solomoncyj 😂 did ..,...

@typerightseesight Год назад

high dynamic range on pc.

@Voyajer. Год назад

Remember, no preorders

@LukusMaxamus Год назад

@@hotaru25189 learnt that the hard way preordering no mans sky a while back. Not doing that again lol

@zackzeed Год назад

Words to live by.

@dthanos4903 Год назад

Am the only one who thinks that this is a modern warfare reference??

@SleepyFen Год назад

We do not pre-order 🎩

@joelconolly5574 Год назад

People pre-order smartphones tho

@Neoxon619 Год назад

The variable refresh rate part is a huge deal for me, because Street Fighter 6 has ridiculous screen-tearing without it while using the input delay reduction mode.

@Akkbar21 Год назад

Hmm. That game is locked at 60fps in multiplayer. 120fps is useless imo. Also, on a 3080, it’s not at all demanding perf wise.

@Neoxon619 Год назад

@@Akkbar21 120Hz still reduces input latency.

@Akkbar21 Год назад

@@Neoxon619 then just use shadow play on PC or I’m sure Xbox and Ps5 have built in capture nowadays. So I don’t see the use case whatsoever.

@OptimusSatanas Год назад

@@Akkbar21 You are the most annoying type of youtube commenter.

@Krynis Год назад

@@Neoxon619 this.

@busti4552 Год назад

Finally 120hz capture devices, now we just need to wait the next 5 years for twitch to catch up.

@peace4626 Год назад

Elgato has had one for a while

@lumi_arcs Год назад

Elgato is a shit show of a company

@jumpierwolf Год назад

Twitch has had 120fps streaming for years.

@Spazbo4 Год назад

we've had 120hz capture before, this doesnt even do 120hz capture but 120 passthrough

@KyberGaming47 Год назад

@@jumpierwolfonly to like 3 people though lol, twitch is capped at 60fps and has vsync which can be uncapped but 99.99999% of people will never see 120fps vid on twitch, so the tiniest monority of people will see it, plus its a complete waste of upload bitrate and download for the users, its just not worth it in anyway even recording at 120fps is stupid, i play at 1440 165fps which NO capture card can passthrough so far so its quite annoying tbh, but either way unless your filming slow motion videos theres no point to recording high fps, just record at 60fps and play at highest available

@Jen_RS Год назад

Jake leaving little strands of Arlo's kitty hair all over that booth. Well done. Our cats follow us everywhere. Hehe

@minekey29348 Год назад

Are we sure its cat hair?

@EposVox Год назад

I’m so excited! But MJPEG is looking very concerning. This is seeming like a downgrade in some ways

@CptPakundo Год назад

And then there's full 4:4:4, which is a complete bag of worms already for those who care about that sort of thing.

@EposVox Год назад

@@CptPakundo I see no signs of 444 support in this video, and more concerning yet the pcie card seems to report as a 10gbps usb device

@MizoxNG Год назад

it's set to NV12, not MJPEG if you look at the settings

@TatawakaPlays Год назад

Passthru is always the issue with “cheap” option of capture cards, not the recording. This new product is really nice for the passthru possible with it. Might need to upgrade.

@StaySic4Ever Год назад

Will be good to eventually see DP 2 used for 4K 120 HDR record with 4K 240Hz VRR passthrough.

@a.very.bored.truck.driver Год назад

Avermedia was in one of my first pc's with a crappy tv tuner when those where fashionable:)Loved that thing. Good to see they are still around and kicking.

@CoalitionGaming Год назад

Line in and Line Out on the external capture card also makes 2 PC stream setups with that so much easier in terms of audio routing too!

@rohithkumarsp 11 месяцев назад

I looked up your channel. Pretty sad, looks like youtube algorithm has screwed your channel. Subbed.

@NanoNutrino 10 месяцев назад

Holy moly, how is your channel not bigger. You should rebrand maybe, name the channel after you since your the face of the channel

@B00M.B00M Год назад

For a card that does not do on-board encoding, I am struggling to find a use case where it's better than just capturing your desktop straight in OBS or GeForce Experience. Maybe it's great for using a proper camcoder or a photocamera that has HDMI out to replace your USB webcam. With videogames you'll tend to capture them on the same system you're playing them on (unless you shell out on a separate capture rig and work out the logistics of that). In this light, the marketing is a bit confusing here since it's apparently featuring videogames, but the best gains it provides seem outside of that.

@Respectable_Username Год назад

It's aimed at console streamers, not PC streamers. For when the image is coming from a different system than the one that's streaming

@B00M.B00M Год назад

@@Respectable_Username That actually makes sense. I forgot that's a thing, but now that you point it out, it's starting to look like a very adequate product.

@nazar-pc Год назад

PCIe 4.0 is not overkill, it would allow to use of 1x slot rather than 4x

@eliteschw31n64 Год назад

To the editor, uvc is correct, thats a plug and play standard for video input devices (primary usb webcams)

@eliteschw31n64 Год назад

That also means, the capture card could work under linux and mac without drivers

@austinnapier8233 Год назад

@@eliteschw31n64 you beat me to this, UVC support is big. Not sure if it just works on macOS because it still needs a generic driver for all UVC-compatible devices, but it should on Linux which is cool

@eliteschw31n64 Год назад

@@austinnapier8233 not sure about the macos part, maybe they have uvc driver? Didnt tested that yet and also cant test it, i have a 2012 mac mini for safari testing lol

@WilliamMcCarthyIII Год назад

Awesome that they let you be so thorough in the coverage! I'd love to integrate this into my setup.

@necrojoe Год назад

@4:40 I've made this exact product suggestion, a TSA-comoliamt length LTT screwdriver, several times here in the comments. It doesn't even need to be a "stubby" short size...just long enough so that with its longest but attached, is under the TSA limit.

@telefonbarmann4514 Год назад

My goodness, Digital Foundry must be jumping in circles with joy right now! :D

@JMLRetroRoom Год назад

I have their LGP2 which has 4K HDR Passthrough. It captures max 1080p/60 and that’s all I need but I’ve been wanting to upgrade because I hate the triangular shape of it. Works great with a USB Battery Bank to capture portably. It also won’t break up the files if you use exFat on your micro sd.

@hyp36rmax Год назад

Awesome! Looking forward to this.

@cheezyjokester Год назад

Been waiting for this to happen. Finally HDMI 2.1 support in a capture card!

@Rascalibur Год назад

Now that 1440p 240hz monitors are becoming significantly more popular, I can't help but ask where all the passthrough support is for those.

@Zx7o. Год назад

Saaaame, I'm running the gigabyte M27QX and cant get the full 1440p/240hz out of any of these capture devices

@doggydude49 Год назад

Agreed. No mentioning of it here but hopefully it will support it

@andymiller3366 Год назад

Same thing i was thinking, got one of the samsung G monitors 1440p 240hz and was confused by the 2.1 support but not 1440p 240hz

@Phoenix-tc6dp Год назад

i really hope they will have a low profile slot bracket because i use a hyte y60. but then its still a 50/50 if it fits because of the riser cable

@ergohack Год назад

11:18 No editor, he didn't misspeak. UVC plug and play was correct.

@l3v1ckUK Год назад

Now there's a name I've not heard in years. I used to have one of Aver's TV cards in my PC in the late 90's.

@Zx7o. Год назад

They need to make a capture card using DisplayPort because I'm running the Gigabyte M27QX 1440p 240Hz monitor.. i cant get the full use out of my monitor through these capture cards

@novotd443 Год назад

Seems that my sleep is f*cked tonight. So much cool stuff! And it's awesome that so many of my fave peeps went to the Computex this year. Jake, Alex, Linus, Luke, curious who else, thanks for your coverage guys. Awesome support team you've got going on, pumping the videos left right and center on multiple channels, mad respect.

@kubi0461 Год назад

Wow, I didn't know AverMedia still existed. I remember them from back in the late 90s while in college. In the dorms I remember someone getting a tv/antennna cable input card from them to watch TV on his PC. It was something amazing at the time.

@very_unique_username Год назад

This!

@LOT9T 7 месяцев назад

When is thje internal version launching and where can i get one ? TY

@Krynis Год назад

I wonder what the latency is between the USB and PCIe version is.

@Cheeseypoofs85 Год назад

hopefully it has sufficient cooling and doesnt start to stutter after running a while at max resolution/refresh rate

@MidnightMan 11 месяцев назад

Very excited for these capture cards!

@ManleyReviews Год назад

what's the bit depth on it?

@SintaxBSD Год назад

so their previous gen was LiveGamer Extreme 3 and the newer upcoming model is LiveGamer Ultra 2.1 ? love it.

@mdnpascual Год назад

it took them a while. Was looking for HDMI 2.1 capture cards last year to record PS5 games but I'm kinda done with those games now so they are too late.

@evilvash0 Год назад

i'm happy to finally have a capture card at 1440p 120hz in usb form and barely no screen tearing.

@s3rit661 Год назад

4:58 A perfect Linus moment, right there

@Mre942 Год назад

My grafficscard do 2160p360 hdr recording with mirillis action! , it does not have changeable scenes but it works for me to stream 4k60 HDR to youtube (OBS drops frames for me when I stream 4k, dunno why).

@DJordydj Год назад

I need to know if these passthgough card shows the image with no latency. I have the Odyssey Neo G9 and if I split the screen in 2 I loose HDR in both devices, so I'd be much more interested on using windows fullscreen and use the capture window to play my console games in that specific window.

@protasov-by 4 месяца назад

Hello what bitdepth and pixel discretization except NV12 is presented?

@Wymizer Год назад

FINAAALLLLYYYYY, I was hoping for display port, but this is great.

@stevenogbuehi3846 Год назад

This is what I've been waiting on finally!!! I've needed a capture card that can simply pass through the 4k120Hz signal to my OLED while I stream. Literally everything in my chain of devices is 4k120Hz compliant except for my current Avermedia 4k60Hz capture card. Now I will be able to truly enjoy my TV without having to disconnect and reconnect my console directly to my receiver.

@costafilh0 Год назад

Great if you want to capture higher quality for upload, beyond the stream quality, or just do offline gameplays and stuff like that, and want maximum quality for uploading on RU-vid. Screen capture in general, like tutorials and stuff like that, would look amazing too. Very nice!

@aclzibi1156 Год назад

Watch the video, this doesn’t record at higher than 60fps, just has 2.1 passthrough

@KittyKatKya Год назад

@@aclzibi1156 Assuming it wasn't a gaffe/typo, 7:33 he claims it's doing 1440p120 recording; It just won't do 4k at 144hz (or possibly even 120?)

@ianlee6416 Год назад

Literally opposite the AverMedia booth, there's YUAN with a 8k@60fps HDMI 2.1 capture card. YUAN SC750N1-L HDMI2.1. Looks cool.

@MaddJakd Год назад

Tell me someone is covering that bad boi 🤩

@KEE_Wii Год назад

It feels like now that there are amazon clones of these for sub 50 dollars trying to eek out more than 1080 on a streaming feed feels like overkill to me. Most of these new titles are releasing on PC anyway.

@anothercritic Год назад

I guess the advantage of these is that they don't drop/skip as many frames as obs locally via GPU frame buffer?

@theftking Год назад

A high res/frame rate capture card that handles variable refresh rate pass through for $300? That's... actually quite impressive.

@TheTechnoPilot Год назад

Please tell them also, we really need 8 HDMI audio channel capture in addition to 10bit capture!!!

@Tagiau Год назад

Man the Avermedia C027 was game changing for me in 2010. Then I promptly forgot they existed as a company and I'm sorry, their products still look good af.

@boominfree7408 Год назад

Would this work for camera 🎥 4k60 capture to OBS for streaming and recording?

@Madvicius Год назад

Does this capture card work on a mainstream linux distro like Fedora for example?

@chexo3 Год назад

I haven’t watched the whole video yet so maybe this is a thing already but it’d be cool to have an M.2 capture card. Would connect to a PCI bracket most likely, or you could mod it into the back panel of your case.

@TeamLinux01 Год назад

What will the Linux support be like for both devices?

@JoseGarcia-mi4ig 9 месяцев назад

Heavily waiting patiently for Linus to start testing multiple capture cards for the M2 Mac Pro, while using raid cards for the set up

@gaborpommersheim4613 Год назад

Great & informative video.

@BluhBalls Год назад

Can you this stream it for twitch or can we use this to play ps5 games on our pc? My monitor is limited to a low hdmi output so I’m looking to get around that so I can get 120hz on 1440p

@falcon20485 11 месяцев назад

Question could this be used with reshade to make a super upscaler

@ProjectPewgf Год назад

First hdmi 2.1 capture card finally 🙌 need that portable one i was so close burying chinese one but i want proper pass through with no limitations and 4k 60 with HDR thats insane! this is it the one ive been waiting for.

@xtrada0303 Год назад

Would a 8k decklink card and a Decimator not work or would the delay be too much

@ahmedal-modaifea4457 Год назад

Wait, can it capture input less than 1080p? Like 480p or even interlaced?

@jennydaninja Год назад

Yoooo these are sick! I wants one

@leeasy7112 10 месяцев назад

Given the size of current 4090 line up, I don’t there’s space for capture card. And new dp protocol is coming out, those hdmi ports gonna be obsolete when it enters mass production phase

@BenAgain452 Год назад

Does it support recording surround sound?

@noenken Год назад

Funny, EposVox just posted a short about a similar Asus device. I guess it's finally happening, more than 4K30 becoming standard. :D

@tubekau Год назад

what is that clock on the pc behind you?

@MrRom92DAW Год назад

How does one even capture a variable refresh rate signal? Can a video file even change framerates from one second to the next?

@Heresstuie Год назад

Do radeon and arc cards not have hdmi 2.1 then?

@DaFlameGamers Год назад

pass through is irrelevant on pcs, you can simply mirror your display through your GPU's control panel (nvidia for me) and set your capture card to mirror which ever display you would like to stream, and set the refresh rate on your capture card to 60 hz while your monitor is on whatever refresh rate you want. In my case, my elgato is at 60 hz while my main monitor is 240hz, i extend a new desktop to my elgato and fullscreen project through OBS studio instead of mirroring though since that allows me to control which application is being streamed easily still without switching to my stream PC.

@thoreberlin Год назад

How do they record VRR? Do the, accept the signal but then stuff it in a constant framerate stream? Which container formats supports saving as VRR?

@MaddJakd Год назад

If it's anything like variable framerate camera footage (I know, but in the end the results are similar) everything should support it

@tuapuikia Год назад

Where can I preorder it?

@DEMENTO01 Год назад

if the max recording options that jake said while checking the software are true it means this is limited to 8-bit hdr which is a bit disappointing, hope it means that the input was at 8-bit and not that it can't do 10-bit recording, it'd be a bit sad but overall still a good product tbh

@aclzibi1156 Год назад

The big improvement in this is just passthrough, it’s not recording at a higher bitrate

@ryanarhart4994 Год назад

Will this capture 5.1 surround or just stereo audio?

@joshua.sutherland Год назад

Honestly, I just kind of want the BlackMagic card that's got quad capture. Will work with cameras, console, etc. But it's over $500 lol.

@UofARollTide Год назад

This is not the first with 4k 120 pass through. I was looking at getting one the other day. The only reason I didn’t is cause it cost $700. I’m glad someone is finally making an affordable one. Been seeing a lot of people making vids at this event and saying “the first one ever” when other companies have them. It might be the first major mass production one. But that’s not the same.

@OptimusSatanas Год назад

First to market is all that matters. What the name of the other device you refer to??

@aclzibi1156 Год назад

He said it wasn’t the first, but that most cost around $1k

@dayjobnerds Год назад

I have 4k120HDR 4:2:0 pass-through from PS5 into an "Elgato 4k60 Pro MK.2" with latest firmware that enables this (like over a year or 2 ago) out to my Samsung Q90R which also was updated a couple years ago to support most HDMI 2.1 spec on some ports. My PC monitor cannot do 120hz but and has worse HDR performance but that doesn't bother the pass-through and streaming.

@Th3James Год назад

I'll take a 4k120 card any day. Record 4k60 with 4090 but use P2000 to encode the video, doesn't effect gaming or oc. I highly reccomend dual GPUs

@stevewang Год назад

i wish they create a simple view app... set which card and "virtual monitor" , i would get at least two. home theater pc with floating windows, switching or tile without delay. mix audio. put pc in tablet mode. done ✅ no more switching input confusion or delay.

@F34RTEHR34PER Год назад

Asus has an external one at Computex as well.

@overdev1993 Год назад

It's been almost 3 years, so yeah FINALLY

@ic_trab Год назад

Does it support multichannel PCM audio?

@zodiacfml Год назад

is it correct that on the specifications, one of these cards use an Intel i5-6600?

@sparkyunofficial1119 Год назад

So this basically allows you to stream any input device at 120fps onto your stream / recording capture software ? OBS clipping of 120fps for RU-vid videos sounds doable if that’s your gig right? However live streaming 120!? At 4K ? I wonder

@vanillabuttons Год назад

So can this pass-through, a full hdr 4k signal at 144fps or 120fps?

@CTowny Год назад

Two videos in one day? Awesome!

@der.Schtefan Год назад

I'd prefer a Gen5 x1 connection, because that is what most new motherboards have left in excess.

@MaddJakd Год назад

Or 4x2 even. Seems this is cutting corners for the sake of price points I guess. Outside HEDT, feel this thing is half baked as to what ot can capture.

@pittykratos9550 Год назад

I actually might have a specific need for a 4k 144Hz video capture card. What are these "professional" ones??

@Dmanjack Год назад

What kind of delay do these cards add ?

@dewizzles Год назад

I love the size of the PCIE card. My 4090 covers my second pcie slot on my motherboard so I had to vertical mount Livergamer 4k which blocks the aesthetics of my gpu this new card seems to fix that issue.

@CptPakundo Год назад

I too have the se GPU and capture card, but as it turns out the only way you can get 4:4:4 pass-through is by connecting the capture card to the 2nd x16 slot on your motherboard, thus forcing your 4090 to go down to PCIE 4 x8. Not a huge performance loss, but sucks. Something to do with PCI-E payload size being too small on the chipset PCI-E slot, very annoying.

@dRabbitGaming Год назад

YES. I HAVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG

@TSF71 Год назад

Yes. Very good.

@zxcvb_bvcxz Год назад

Gen3x4 isn't enough for 48gb/s input is it?

@qazwsx000xswzaq Год назад

Finally the long awaited successor models are out.

@ragexg Год назад

I just wanna have 2k 240 passthrough 4k 60 for Recording is more than enouph. Is this working on Macs?

@Zorkrum 5 месяцев назад

Are you able to still use this on a usb 3.1? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

@Wicked9090 Год назад

Looks amazing - just wish some of these devices had 2-4 inputs :( I have 3 cards atm to receive my input :/

@kompressahdnb Год назад

There is no point in pre ordering anything unless it comes with a killer deal or limited edition stuff. Back in the day, the whole point of pre ordering was for the item to sell out.

@nin1ten1do Год назад

I still use aavermedia live gamer 2 for streaming 1080P 60FPS:. i loking for 144cause my screen is 144 now i am satisfied

@MS-lw1pd Год назад

Cool hardware

@Eli-zb2yj Год назад

Can't wait for a 16k capture card

@Alexandra-Rex Год назад

Happy to see these arriving now. I assume it also supports 1440p 240 Hz then as the Elgato 4K60 Pro Mk.2 can do 1440p 120Hz now, so I can use my monitor at its full potential.

@tango91 Год назад

Unfortunately it looks like Jake said 1440p 144Hz which is hopefully an error or preproduction issue since that's the same as the 4k

@brusik66 Год назад

It's not an error, this is an HDMI 2.0 capture card with HDMI 2.1 passthrough. It will record at max 1440p 144Hz, same as existing Avermedia HDMI 2.0 capture cards.

@Alexandra-Rex Год назад

@@brusik66 That's at least better than today's cards. I am realky not after recording in more than 60 FPS anyway.

@MaddJakd Год назад

I'm gonna be blunt. I want DP pass-through! Not all of us are basic mass-market consumer types, recording console footage or using TVs as primary and secondary PC monitors!