I failed and I am sorry, trying again to get rid of gas engineers making up their own regulations. 

Great western hotel in Newquay. I work there with the new boilers now fitted. That flue always sticks in my mind when I’m servicing and for me I wouldn’t ncs it, it would be AR.

My thoughts exactly.

1. Derek! Congratulations on a fantastic video. 2. I fitted a combi where the flue could only terminate within 300mm of an openable fanlight pvc window. A gas safe inspector told me to remove the handle in shut position, block access to spindle receptor and stick a permanent notice warning the window must not be tampered with. I had to have a warning sticker made for this.

@@ghaderortakand6027 wow, that’s pretty much what they did at the great western. But the window got changed after a refurb. I would get that in writing or email. 👍

So strange see David robbins commenting my brother is called David 😂

2 Bs. Are better than one. Lol

Both the collars require the screws the manufacturer sends in the holes provided in the collars

If plastic pipe feeds an external box and the copper pipe is not in contact with earth or wall structures as it would be sleeved in plastic thru walls then typically it does not need bonding.

Good point, although the acid test would be: is there more that 10ppm co being discharged into the room. Another viewpoint to explore: i winder if we could ID this based on departure from the Manufacturers Instructions! Any comment?

Good luck let me know how you get on 👍🏻

@@tomkatgastraining all finished good for another 5 years 👍🏼 the reassessment has been streamlined now so i was able to complete in a day and a bit.

@@Musafrabad101 the manufacturers instructions for the flue system

They are told to disc the meter if they think there are any faults and then they advise for a gas engineer to check it

Cooker hoses are allowed on hobs unless the MIs specifically say you can’t. There’s a TB covering it and it was in RGE some months ago. I was surprised as it’s not what I was taught but it’s definitely correct. I phoned GS to confirm. 😁

@@edmetcalfe8974 Thanks for that great information I will try and find the MI

You still need to report it even if you just fix it

Nope ncs all day long on that one…..a balance flue may be a different story but again it’s engineers judgement. I’d feel comfortable leaving it you may not. It’s those who don’t see or evaluate the risk are the problem.

@@richard8303 the flue is not installed according to manufacture instructions on the day tested all may be fine but there's an obvious risk hence why manufacturers give a distance. I continually see flues being installed incorrectly and installers know they can get away with it as it's only going to get NCS .

@@gazmondo1971 I don’t disagree with you at all but we need to look ‘At (the) Risk to the customer In individual circumstances, and deliver the right advice to the customer. Manufacturers now allow for certain distance to be reduced if all other clearances are met, if you believe there is a risk to that customer then you can only do what you think is right. But I believe that there is also an issue with certain engineers scaring customers into new boilers. Over exaggerating a safety concern is as bad as under exaggerating a safety concern in my opinion. The good thing is I can tell you care about your job. I’ve actually gone to jobs which I’ve been to in the past and changed my mind in the safety situation I’ve previously left it in and gone from ncs to AR either because circumstances have changed or maybe because I missed certain factors on the day. The important thing is to be always looking and improving. You won’t always make the right call but you won’t be far out.

And you believe them ? I've had that said to me and I've replied " yes they did because it's been me for the last two years and I definitely removed it here's my initials and date in pencil " gas fire..bbu...cooker, you name it, half of them are in fairy land 🤣🤣

I get that with every gas fire I've ever been to aswell 🤣

Thank you 🙏

Already have

@@tomkatgastraining Have you got the link

@@b1h2u3p4 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KMVrdlDScTU.html I think it’s in this one if not check out the play list on the channel

@@tomkatgastraining Thanks does it cover u16 meter metric and imperial.

Sorry you are incorrect you still have to notify NCS to the responsible person but not on the warning notice

@@tomkatgastraining no we both correct advice to customer/gas user is not recordable on certs misunderstanding.

I would have kept that quiet 🤫

@@tomkatgastraining ahh yes 😉 we all do everything by the book 😉😉😇

What’s the immediate danger?

Any room sealed appliance needs to be fully sealed or it’s a danger

This is simple stuff shouldn’t be working on gas if your at risking missing seals on room SEALED appliances

@@bubbagun3576 Where cables pass through the case they’re called grommets, not seals. I suggest you check this “simple stuff” with Gas Safe. There is a risk of POCs escaping the case where the grommet is missing. If they’re not escaping right now, it’s not ID. Gas Safe agree with me and so do appliance manufacturers, so your “should not be working on gas” statement makes you look a bit daft. 😄 Alternatively, you could just look at GIUSP section 7.2, bullet point 3, which specifically covers what we’re talking about and confirms what I’ve said.

So you would at risk it if poc’s are not escaping right now? Ffs I guess you work for your self right?

Me too Ed we can be famous together 😂 thanks for your comment I enjoyed the chat 👍🏻

@@tomkatgastraining 😆 me too. It would be a boring world if we all agreed all the time.

We don't but gas safe and ultimately the hse ie the government do

I still don't get why back in the 1960's, a GPO employee who would set the dial speed, adjust the gaps on a dialling cam, strip down and lubricate the dial and generally overhaul a telephone was called a 'technician' whereas today's telephones are not serviceable and the person who comes and connects the Openreach A and B wires to a master socket is called an 'engineer'. As far as I'm concerned (and I'm backed up by historical usage), an engineer designs boilers, cars, telephones, and a technician or mechanic services them. Otherwise I'd take my van to an automotive engineer to have the oil changed. Just a thought! I understand there is a crossover in that a Registered Gas Installer might design a heating system, but as he or she is generally working to standard industry practices rather than truly inventing new and radical solutions, I feel the term 'engineer' is best not used in these circumstances... otherwise how do we differentiate between the people that paint the bridge on the gorge at Bristol from Brunel who designed the bridge (in a way that nobody had done before)?

@@johnbull5394 Exactly. The degradation of the title has led to a loss of understanding of what engineers do and this in turn has led to a loss in trust, since there are so many dodgy "engineers" fixing washing machines that fail again a week later. This has brought the title into disrepute and has impacted on the intake into professional engineering courses to the extent that there's now a shortage of real engineers. Terms like engineer and architect used o be protected in the same way that "solictor" and "doctor" are protected but something went wrong along the way.