I FIGHT Dean Lamb GUITARISTS SHOULD CHEAT with FAKE playing.

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@DeanLamb 2 года назад

Appreciate your response bro. My band uses plenty of studio magic to make songs sound better, and I admit that freely. We're good musicians, but we do exactly what everyone else does, and then use the album as the "standard" to compare our live shows against. I don't think I was trying to discourage anyone from using those tricks, I was just explaining that if you see a musician playing perfectly in a supposed "off-the-cuff" Instagram clip, take an extra second and be critical about what you're hearing. I'm typing this as I am taking a break from editing takes together to make them sound perfect. Thanks for calling me a big RU-vidr! 🙂

@petaralargic 2 года назад

That MoP info is new to me..wow..! Thanks, man... very interesting!

@promeow1127 2 года назад

great video !!

@CyberChrist 2 года назад

First time I heard Immortal was live, and Abbath being newly appointed as guitarist had trouble playing the intricate parts, but nobody cared a millisecond, that's where the emotion actually lies, and the capacity to get over mistakes is the mark of the superior musician. Bad people make mistakes and don't do anything about them. Mediocre people make no mistakes. Good people make mistakes and correct them. Strive for greatness, but f|_|ck perfection win an Arrow. On a side note, I heard nothing warranting trickery in the Arch Enemy sequence -_-

@CABALDRUMMER 2 года назад

Appreciate the honest approach! Thanks for the content you put out.

@user-ym6dl8tq6u 2 года назад

Love your channel teheeh

@applegarden2448 2 года назад

ready to watch this while mixing my programmed vanilla susage mix on rails (in a DAW), can't wait to see

@thomasraustin 2 года назад

Nuclear Assault Live at the Hammersmith Odeon. 89. Theres some live shit that just doesn't give a fuck.

@BrandonBames 2 года назад

So glad you started this podcast man! Seckle eh teeeewwwwwnnnnn!

@soradical16 2 года назад

Loving these regular uploads, man. Great videos. Have you thought about running regular polls or doing youtube shorts? That should keep you more favored with youtube's algorithm.

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

Yep! My subs seem to be static though.

@pillsareyummy 2 года назад

I disagree with 'Kirk can't play his solos live'. During the 80s he played very well live. Check out their live videos during the 80s, Kirk was on fire (as was the rest of the band). Something happened in the 90s with Kirk, he can't play for shit now. As far as the 'emotion' is concerned, I always wanted bands to sound good live. I knew they wouldn't sound as good live as in the studio, however I wanted to see a good performance. We'll leave Lars' modern drum skills alone ...

@hazardeur 2 года назад

80's was 80's but Metallica sound like a bad Metallica High School coverband since more or less 10+ years and it gets worse and worse.

@kennethnielsen3864 2 года назад

I'm old school, I play two 100W Marshall JCM900 in stereo, with a tuner, a Jackhammer, a blues breaker and a faser in front.

@ogunhe 2 года назад

The eternal argument: Tattoo artists get the same guff. They're among the ONLY artists allowed to steal other people's artwork, make money from it and don't pay the original artist. All it compelled me to do as an artist, was "up my game" to a point where it'd be extremely difficult to copy my work - to the point where I made conscious forays into digital arenas (also considered "cheating" in certain artistic circles). I think that should be the general direction not the destination, per se.

@rockrenegade 2 года назад

When my band first started, we had a RADAR style hard disk recorder (No DAW style random access editing) to cut our demos on and having no idea about all the recording studio tricks, we'd insist on playing our tracks start to finish. We didn't even punch in if we made a mistake. Not because I didn't know how, but because we thought all those bands were that good and that's how it was done. and that we'd have to if we were ever going to be a killer live band. We'd start entirely over until the performance was perfect in one pass. I do appreciate how good and tight it made us a live band which was a huge part of how we developed our following but it's funny looking back how our naivety informed our sound from the beginning.

@SaintKines 2 года назад

I've always broken it into 2 parts. There's the studio where you should be doing whatever works to get your recording to sound the way you and your band want. Then there is live which is where the band performs their songs either to just perform them the way they are known and loved or maybe a reinterpretation of the songs. The only issues I ever take with stuff like this is when I find out or feel that I was misled or deceived. The Kiss Live album is a beloved classic but it's also kind of lame because of some of the cheating in my opinion.

@Stevie6ixx 2 года назад

Don't ever change

@TheGreatBaronOBeefDip 2 года назад

I need that last bit to play on loop for every new band.

@worksofein6449 2 года назад

As long as the end result is cool and someone emotionally connects with the work, even if it's just the person that made it, then I don't think it matters how the music got made. At least not to me. I heard a phrase once like "everyone steals inspiration, just make sure you do it artfully" same applies to creative "cheating".

@SteveMurrayMusic 2 года назад

The End result is what counts...I use the D.I. out of the back of my blackstar amp most of the time.. it sounds really good with the D.I. out and a mike on the speaker

@robwalsh9843 2 года назад

Cheaters in relationships=No no Cheaters in music production=Hell yes!

@riffsfromtheabyss666 2 года назад

Insightful

@kazzTrismus 2 года назад

the daleks love multi tracking and drop pedals too

@xplanet2112 2 года назад

Popcorn gift at the ready!

@edwardmulholland7912 2 года назад

Great video! These arguments have been going on since The Monkees got shit on for not playing on their albums lol. Almost no live albums by major artists are purely live and recorded from only one show (unless it’s archive releases like what Neil Young is releasing these days). The only live album that I know of that has no overdubs is Van Morrison’s “It’s too late to stop now” and that’s compiled from several shows. Led Zeppelin’s “How the west was won” is a patchwork quilt of two shows. They are putting out a quality product that has a high standard and that’s fine. I also love bootlegs because I get to hear the mistakes and hear when they hit the highs. It’s ok to enjoy both. I’m interested in hearing good songs and good performances and if the tricks in the studio can help, then all the better. There has always been a lot of snobbery about “keeping it real” lol. What does that even mean today?

@jinzo664 2 года назад

I'm confused Owen. In previous videos you said not to use metronomes, drum machines, copy & pastes, etc. But here you're saying it's okay to do those things? Do you mind clarifying that for me, or maybe make a follow up video?

@anjy2l332 2 года назад

You're asking Owen, "why aren't apples oranges?" Answer, because apples aren't oranges.

@SamFisher338 2 года назад

Also, on most Type O Negative albums (which I know Owen loves, and so do I) the drums are just drum machines even though they had a drummer. Most Bathory albums too. And they're all legendary. And playing live in studio is cool but sometimes it's 100% not a possibility, be it because of the style or budget. Pretty much 99% of the legendary albums aren't anyway. I think it's ok to leave mistakes or imperfections, and they often add to the music. One time I was editing the drums midi from a guitar pro tab to sync every beat with the original song (it was Hammer Smashed Face) for a cover video my girlfriend was doing and it was baffling how much the tempo varied, it took me hours to do it. There are bands that record live and in as few takes as possible like Darkthrone, bands that try to sound tight and even cheat a bit to do it like Metallica on MOP, and bands like most of today's djent that take that to a new level with extreme editing and etc. And everything in between. It's just up to the listener to decide what to listen to.

@BrianBower 2 года назад

An interesting other perspective. I like it. I also liked Dean's. It's just the whole perfection thing in instagram and it can be misleading especially towards the inexperienced. We are all humans. What I like about your video is you show examples of how this was done even before the digital age.

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

I make an example of success before the digital age because I have a mini agenda. I'm convinced the DAW/internet killed rock and metal. I don't think the cheating aspect of the DAW is the only aspect of rocks decline. I think cheating got copied when producers in the past would hold thier cards (and session musicians, amps etc) close to thier chests.

@nicwilson89 2 года назад

@@CIRCLEOFTONE Out of interest, in what way has rock/metal been killed?

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

@@nicwilson89 I explain it here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YCoqAjrGOo8.html

@spacealienjesus709 2 года назад

I wonder if Fear Factory does this ? Love the videos..

@jameslane3167 2 года назад

My friend know buddy's got you...shit you own a Marshall that was modded by the same guy as Gary Holt's I researched that and that ain't no joke...you boys got some bad ass amps I'm jealous. Still like you're story about seeing Obituary and getting a broken nose. Keep doing what you do man.

@jravell Год назад

I've always been disappointed when I hear a live album that sounds like it's been overdubbed, and I appreciate the ones where they mask the cheating well enough. But two live albums that sound true to me are Queen's Live at Wembley '86 and Sepultura's Under a Pale Grey Sky. I want to say they were fully recorded on the night. Thoughts on this?

@tehsimo 2 года назад

Dean would just drop that huge 8 string on his enemies

@johnevered9640 Год назад

Side note about the epitaph necrophagist record. I distinctly remember a producer and guitarist on a podcast make the claim that the entire record was punched in note by note to get that level of tightness.

@CIRCLEOFTONE Год назад

Hehe

@hamishericson2050 2 года назад

I can't even remember the last time I saw a band who didn't have a backing track running through the whole show, apart from bands in pubs, and even they're starting to do it

@misterknightowlsguitarrant6984 2 года назад

If your going to cheat, do it right and make it so no one can tell…

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

I'm bad at the last bit.

@Staminist-MMF-80 2 года назад

I just came from a long day of a video shooting, for one of our three songs we will release. I love this band because it sounds nothing like the "standards" people care about so much. #Oven - You should release some more of your music, it sounds sick, as always! Plus, some of us know how good you sing, too. Is there a reason not to do it, not to throw some ideas out to the people?

@htomao 2 года назад

I want to know more about that Pete Townshend/Jimmy Page thing, can someone clue me in? Edit: a quick wiki search cleared it up, under the Can't explain entry

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

Crazy eh?

@charlesrocks 2 года назад

I think both methods are completely relevant and valid. It’s really up to us, the listener to decide what we want to listen to. If no one listened to Arch Enemy, then they wouldn’t be touring the world and making a ton of albums. However, there is a HUGE demand for realness in metal/rock. There’s not enough bands doing it except for Fit For An Autopsy, Opeth, and a handful of others. We live in the age where there are no barriers to the art we want to create other than the barriers we set up for ourselves.

@bucktowtruck4993 2 года назад

The arch enemy girl inspires people to pick up the guitar... And lotion.

@N8oRMusic 2 года назад

Nice!

@KalosPVP 2 года назад

I interpreted his video as a dont beat yourself up when comparing yourself to what other people put out on social media because they're using all the tricks. I didn't hear him say dont use these tricks, just be aware these guitarists are using these to give a better performance. But I get it, content content content.

@thehatemachinestl 2 года назад

The old down chunk elbow shake off move!

@byron3453 Год назад

Most of the rock bands from the 60's didn't record their own tracks, they brought in the wreaking Crew. I don't think Ringo recorded a single track for the Beatles

@jackbyrd4921 2 года назад

Most old school if not all live rec. Where not really live . Classical is most likely tbe only true live performances and these day I wonder about that. Good work mate!

@podfuk 2 года назад

Metallica trick was commonly used by Beatles because Lennon wanted to sound younger, so nothing new, quite opposite, but still great video!

@radicalgambino2959 2 года назад

I don't think that is the argument Dean Lamb is making tho

@stephencox4509 2 года назад

I didn't know punching in was cheating. I'd like to know what isn't cheating. By the logic of these type of people, multi-track recording in itself should be considered cheating.

@RothBeyondTheGrave 2 года назад

Specifically in the case of the "live" albums, cheating would simply be anything that didn't happen up on that stage.

@NickSwe 2 года назад

I knew metallica recorded blackened at a bit slower tempo and down tuned, just so james could overdub the track with pretty much perfect accuracy, which is still beyond amazing how tight he played it.

@secularspectator 2 года назад

Circle of tone fights Circle of tone...as Always 🤣

@markferguson3745 2 года назад

Personally, my favourite " live" effort has long remained Lou Reed's Street Hassle,- just some great, pure velvet grind on some of those oddly recorded ( "Stereo Binaural Sound") tracks.Almost like his Crazy Horse period. As with most things Reed, you have to love or hate his WTF attitude and approach.

@dominikpohli2381 2 года назад

what do you think about the wgs vetaran 30 i think the sound better than the chines vintage 30 that evryone played

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

Good value. Esp when I was part of the $20 era where they blew them out when WGS got off the ground. I used to have them in my life rig.

@dominikpohli2381 2 года назад

@@CIRCLEOFTONE i also tried out the brighter -retro 30 from wgs its also sounds better than the celestion v30 made china

@BearfootBob 2 года назад

Other artists preferred the one-take approach, like on many early Bowie albums, you're hearing the first vocal take, and first guitar solo and band takes as well. Most of Man Who Sold the World was recorded live, with very loud amps, according to Woody Woodmansy. Jean Genie is take one. Bowie was known to have been insistent about keeping first takes then. The Beatles are a great example of taking both approaches as they saw fit. Some of their best stuff are tracked-out masterpieces, but they were always very serious about weighing that vs. recording live, as with Let it Be.

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

Absolutely! Bowie was one in a billion IMO. Add to that Ronson and you get perfection. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y2-cJadLlGM.html

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

And just to give the new musicians hope, Bowie bombed early on.

@BearfootBob 2 года назад

@@CIRCLEOFTONE and he bombed hard too, hilariously cringe for years....Woody Woodmansy's book is quite relatable, detailing a very humble time. They were just guys sleeping on the floor at a Mansion Bowie was renting using all of his money coming in from Space Oddity. They had nothing left over. Like a million projects and bands. Huddled freezing in cars on grassroots tours like many of us have.

@FreddyFuFu 2 года назад

Lol you are fighting a lamb... easy mode

@allthingsclassicrock 2 года назад

Peter Frampton comes alive, one of my favorite live albums of all time I don’t care if Peter “cheated” or not. He claims it’s all live. Some great playing on that record and a textbook for great licks. I will say, every live performance I’ve seen of “Do You Feel Like We Do” none of them matched the record. Makes you wonder… 🤔

@davetbassbos 2 года назад

Were Made in Japan and Rainbow on Stage all live, anyone know?

@allthingsclassicrock 2 года назад

I think Ritchie said made in Japan is all live. Not sure if it’s edited in anyway but I don’t think there’s any overdubs.

@davetbassbos 2 года назад

@@allthingsclassicrock Circle of Tone brought up a good point and I know some live albums were heavily doctored but it got me thinking there are some great live performance videos for example Pantera which are super tight performances. I know alot of people rag on the modern grid aligned metal, but at least one modern band Jinjer is mind blowingly tight in live videos, there's one for Resurrection Fest worth checking out

@yikelu 2 года назад

Personally, I'm over extreme metal as a genre anyways. The music I like nowadays generally sits between 20/80 and 80/20 pop appeal vs musicianship. I am completely over harsh, unmelodic vocals, especially where you can't hear the lyrics at all. Re: copying. Copying is fine as a learning tool, but you have to actually learn. Maybe you start copy/paste and break down the signal chain. Then next tone you look at the specific gear but figure out the settings. Eventually you create it from scratch. In any case, it's a skill and you stop copy/pasting tones and actually make something of your own. On that note -- do Winery Dogs!

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

The general listening metal public are over it too.i swear it's just musicians propping up that scene.

@ordohereticus3427 2 года назад

It's about the art and not some sport with points and medals. I don't care how many guitars, or how many tricks a band used in or outside studio to get a certain sound. Does it sounds amazing and inspiring? Yes? Job done.

@OnkelTomAngelripper1 2 года назад

This response is ridiculous, Dean s merely trying to explain to guitar newbies that they shouldn't feel discouraged to stop playing because of all these fake guitar videos making them feel that they will never be able to play that perfectly. And it also needed to be said, most guitarists would agree with Dean in his video.

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

Who are all these emotionally fragile victims that quit because they can't play Rings Of Saturn? Lol. Does that even happen?

@bqvsgravity8956 2 года назад

@@CIRCLEOFTONE Exactly. If you give up and quit doing something because you are discouraged by whatever it is then it isnt for you lmfao.

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

@@bqvsgravity8956 yep and on the flip side Kiss Alive cheated and created people like Dimebag etc. Cheating creates greats... Millions get influenced, gassed up by MOP etc to play. It's a massive net positive.

@swagnostic132 2 года назад

@@bqvsgravity8956 that's not quite fair at all. I had a student who restarted playing later in life after such a thing. There's no one equal path for this type of thing. It is reasonable to let people know that they can be critical (which isnt a bad word despite present connotation) of media they take in and it's also reasonable to want to have newbies or old newbies to know that they don't have to be discouraged. Everyone who picks an instrument up isn't looking to push the game forward with massive experimental ideas. Some people just wanna have a neat time making sounds

@paistefever 2 года назад

Never knew Metallica sped up recordings! That explains god awful Lars' playing live especially those accents in the verses of Master Of Puppets that don't make any sense, at all. When you made the slow version, that made sense lot more, hahaha

@KozmykJ 2 года назад

Create - connect Gut to Guitar to Recorder

@HazeAnderson 2 года назад

All these RU-vidrs cheating on compression by letting RU-vid do it for them.😏

@GoDamnWeird 2 года назад

Three words: The Beach Boys. They did sing on their albums, but were touring flat out and didn't play on most of them.

@Trilobite8jesus 2 года назад

Krazy Horse!!

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

Hehe

@almostclement4975 2 года назад

I think there’s a difference between cheating in order to deceive the audience to make them believe that you’re actually playing what they’re hearing and using what I call studio magic to achieve a certain sound in order to serve the song or musical vision. Live is a different thing, I choose to believe that I’m listening to an interpretation of what I heard on the recording and if I enjoy it then it’s all good.

@resington 2 года назад

There is a strange trend or standard for people for when they're recording playing anything it has to be the take they filmed. I hate this honestly, unless it's a 'look a my skills' video. I do plugin demos and mix stuff and my 'playthrough' is all pre made. No shame I don't care. Cause it's about the tune sounding its best, not guitar skills, nobility or misplaced honour.

@hazardeur 2 года назад

well, you do have to record one take anyway so why not just film them all and take the one that was played well and therefore also looks good/correct? It's not a strange trend. It's done because it just isn't really much additional work other than deleting the other takes which takes about 2 seconds and it also shuts up al the "you didn't play what i saw" blabla people.

@resington 2 года назад

@@hazardeur I refuse to give in plus where I record looks worse than the place I video. 😅

@bojangles4704 2 года назад

The Rings of Saturn guitarist Lucas Mann 100% fakes his shit, yes he can play leads but not as good as he wants you to think he can

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

Yep but the gonzo speed entertains people, so who cares? Was Metallica speeding up tape ok because they hid it better?

@bojangles4704 2 года назад

@@CIRCLEOFTONE The big issue with him that followed was the live shows and that is what I was talking about I should have been more clear , I'm from a time when back tracking let alone lead in it was only for pop stars and I understand I'm grumpy old man

@bobowrathsovine. 2 года назад

There is a guy from Sweden here on RU-vid who analyses everything Metallica and he discovered some of Cliff's bass wasn't even played right. As in totally out of key with the rest of the music.

@yellowdog2181 2 года назад

I think there’s a difference between live and studio playing.

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

Like Kiss Alive?

@yellowdog2181 2 года назад

@@CIRCLEOFTONE not live records but live shows

@huwmorgan74 2 года назад

Infectious Grooves didn't cheat

@theAshesofDecember1 2 года назад

Some of the most famous solos in rock history were fucking studio comps. Why is this even an argument? Someone’s going to say David Gilmore isn’t a real musician because he used tricks in the studio to come up with the best solo out of a number of tracks? Fuck that

@user-ym6dl8tq6u 2 года назад

KING OF THE BEARDED NECKS! 🤤🤤

@aegisraven1284 2 года назад

Metallica recoded master of puppets at half speed and sped the tapes up later to make it sound tighter lol

@philfrank5601 2 года назад

VANILLA SAUSAGE 4 LIFE

@NotBenCoultry 2 года назад

If the goal is creating great music then what the fuck does "cheating" have to do with anything in the first place? It's music, not a competition or zero sum game where we could possibly run out of inspiration or ways to express it. Just don't copy the songs or try to be another person. Be you and record that right? lmao

@benjaminlinus2792 2 года назад

I agree, nowdays everybody (guitar world) sounds the same. Like every single guitar geek is using the same goddamn preset. Plugins are toys. Don't record with toys. Worst of all, have you noticed the sound of drums with these bands today?

@GigglingDickhead 2 года назад

Manipulation is embedded in everything we see and hear. Of the many photographs you've looked at in just the last 30 minutes, I guarantee every single one of them has been manipulated in some way, including any taken by photo-journalists. The videos are no different - the uploader can choose which angle they look best from and position the lights to suit. Manipulation is occurring before the shutter has been pressed and music is no different. You're probably cheating and don't even realise it.

@johneapleseed6876 2 года назад

Who’s that?

@reddevil6005 2 года назад

He plays in some annoying tech death band.

@johneapleseed6876 2 года назад

Oh. I’m a grind/crust person. My b

@satanicconservative3935 2 года назад

Suffocation’s live album, is absolutely live. And it is amazing. The energy is legit. Shitty bands cheat. Ya know, like kiss and guns and roses. Hell, half the time, slash was too wasted to play live.

@thedondeluxe6941 2 года назад

Yeah... I don't think Hetfield was ever the problem with getting Metallica to sound tight😂

@yikelu 2 года назад

Yeah, it was the guy with initials that spell out my last name.

@thedondeluxe6941 2 года назад

@@yikelu That is true.

@CassiniProjekt 2 года назад

YT and social media generally rewards the "guitar rat race" in terms of the shreddiest of shredders and technique. It's boring, for example I prefer the imperfections of The Beatles, it's easier to connect with because it's "human" rather than perfect and hyper rationalised. I'll admit I semi cheated on a guitar solo cover of Play with Me by Extreme, I used a take from 2 weeks prior to recording the vid and used that instead of the vid take as it was better. Then melodyned it because it's in E flat and my FR guitar is in E standard (in the original vid take I tuned down to E flat but it screwed up the action and intonation a bit). Anyways my edited version got retweeted by the Bill and Ted page so cheating works!

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

That's awesome

@allthingsclassicrock 2 года назад

Well put. A lot of this technical guitar playing is meant to be listened to with the eyes and not ears. It’s eye candy and spectacle. Because if you actually close your eyes when listening to some of these Uber guitar players it sounds like crap. It’s all about technique and it’s not very musical- lacks basic music ingredients- melody, harmony, etc. I’m not sure if RU-vid has really hurt or helped the guitar community. It is cool to see how the instrument has progressed and free lessons by great teachers is awesome. But on the flip side guitar music as a whole has suffered. Just my opinion of course.

@satanicconservative3935 2 года назад

Metallica hasn’t tuned to E standard since the 80s. It’s E flat. Has always been E flat.

@JD-vj4go 2 года назад

I'm old and I saw all the classic thrash bands live. Metallica definitely couldn't play their hardest songs very well. Megadeth was the same. I saw Children of Bosom and they were super sloppy. All these years I thought these bands were just drunk.

@aegisraven1284 2 года назад

Metallica recoded master of puppets at half speed and sped the tapes up later to make it sound tighter lol

@tombailey1059 2 года назад

Metal is the disco of rock music. Metal is the plastic surgery addict who killed rock and stole his name 2+ decades ago.

@endoffate5475 2 года назад

They sped it up because of how it sounded, not because they coudnt play it that fast.. All downpick Master of puppet is not that hard for some people. Some people just have that natural ability and Hetfield is one of them. They just have a faster wrist, so it takes less endurance for them to achieve this. Look at the guitar player for the Ramones. All downpick all the time.. The guy never had to work at it or anything, he just had that ability. Also Kirk cant play his solos live? Just stop dude, they might not sound as clean as on the records but thats with every guitars player. Hes not sitting down, concentrating on his solo, hes running around giving a show. Theres a million bootlegs out there proving that he can play his solos just fine. Theres also a million bootlegs out there proving that they sounded just as good live as they do on Live shit during the Justice era.

@SamFisher338 2 года назад

I'm pretty sure I've read that they did it because Cliff couldn't play it tight at full speed.

@endoffate5475 2 года назад

@@SamFisher338 Well yea its about how tight it sounds.. Its hard to explain, but try recording the intro to Master of puppets.. See how it sounds compare to them. A big part of that is also that insane guitar tone they use.

@theariesexperiment4642 2 года назад

I've always been of the mindset of if you can't pull it off live??? Don't record it. Now,....I've gotta disagree about some of your "theories". Necrophagist is that tight live, recorded, or otherwise without question. I've seen them live 3 times. Listen to Origin. You'll say there is no way. It is really that tight my guy. I played 4 shows with those guys. Paul Ryan is an absolute monster. Seems to me your a little sour about certain issues and insecure about your own abilities. Does KISS cheat?? Absolutely. Does Kirk Hammett suck?? 100%. But I'm not so sure some of the things you claim are going on just because you can't attain a tone or tightness in your playing. That's more of a personal problem my guy. Good luck with all that.

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

Kirk Hammett sucks? WTF? His WRITING, tone, expression of those solos was AMAZING. I litteraly said Necrophagist can play what they write live. I just made a claim re thier production. Who cares how good I am? WTF does that have to do with Kirk Hammett launching a million guitar ships with his MASSIVE talent? I'm sour is an understatement btw because of guitar drones like you. TECHNICALITY IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. And interest is an all time low. You can't read between the lines?

@theariesexperiment4642 2 года назад

@@CIRCLEOFTONE Awwww. Him twiggered. Wuv him heawt Word. Him uptet. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 What a complete TOSSER. YES KIRK HAMMETT ABSOLUTELY SUCKS AND DOESNT DESERVE THE ENDORSEMENTS AND FREE GUITARS ESP HANDS HIM. Have you heard him try to play in any live setting sir??? Have you??? 🤨 Its absolutely abhorrent. And we won't even get into how much if a problem Bob Rock had trying to get a presentable solo for the black album. He is a f_cking train wreck. If it weren't for the pentatonic scale, and the wah wah pedal??? He'd be sellin tacos on skid row. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Period.

@CIRCLEOFTONE 2 года назад

@@theariesexperiment4642 You sound like a forum from the 90's. Kirk wah bad? Soooo original. Modern metal bots like you really do copy and paste everything eh? Have you ever had an original thought? You even repeated my claim that Kirk can't play his solos live. Haha. I litteraly said that in my video so you copy and pasting it in "your" response is PERFECT.