I Finally Experienced Persona 2 And It Is FANTASTIC 

Makoto, Kotone, Yu and Joker: Igor, I have a complaint!

@@mamba-do-u _"The _*_Fool_*_ Arcana" eh?..._

@@mamba-do-u I've literally never heard anyone refer to P3's FEMC by her live play name!

@@conspiracypanda1200 there's more debate on her name than Joker in all honesty

@@conspiracypanda1200 They actually reused that name in a mobile game crossover she was in a while back. That's basically her canon name now.

HA

Is Hitler German in the persona universe? Or was he already an immortal Mayan sorcerer before being the Führer

He should still be german. All that mayan sorcerer stuff only happened because of the rumors coming true, which Nyarlathotep only made happen in 1999 (the year this game takes place). Besides, there’s now the new timeline after this game’s ending, and since the In Lak’ech was never written in that new timeline, the rumor of Hitler being a sorcerer was never spread, so he was never retroactively made one

@@Sk8r115 It’s not ACTUALLY Hitler. It’s just a disguise

@@quack-tastictictac1630 Despite that though, the real Hitler was in-canon a persona user. Igor mentions it if you talk to him at some point.

It's always the ones she never expects at first. XD

I can't believe P2 IS made gay people real

It's pretty funny as well because either option is correct. You actually can't be mad whether they're gay or best friends lol. This game is amazing.

He does, at least in the Japanese. It was voiced by Tanonaka.

Here here!

Eikichi is the greatest character of all time

“Say it to Michel!”

All I needed to love Eikichi was ONE textbox Not many chracters get bestowed of an honor like that

I can attest to that

The Motorcycle impression is probably the most BASED part of him Like, dude just pulls out a mic with its stand out of nowhere and makes an accurate motorcycle sounds.

True That!

Yeah the game actually uses some real-life conspiracy theories, or something similar to them. There is actually theory/old folklore that Jesus Christ didn't die and escaped to Hokkaido, so like the stuff that happens in this game aren't so far from beliefs we have in our world.

this game's take on Y2K is somehow way more logical than YIIK's take, a game entirely focused on Y2K truly one of the YIIK moments of all time

Tatsuya: damn brat i'll sue

Based comment lol.

Ok great I thought I was hallucinating Keith’s voice 😭

is this a joke i woke up 2 mins ago this is indecipherable to me

@@mustafaqasimi5122 yes it’s a joke

Yeah it’s pretty weird that they introduced this character and then just abandoned her for the rest of the story. Ginko is great tho so I’m not complaining she took Lisas place

Aren’t they the same person?

@@lucaskincanyon7393 it's a joke

Sounds like the Trails games

every good rpg does this. big part of the Dragon Quest games too. and ff7 and ff9, i havent replayed 8 recently enough to be sure

Awww that’s adorable 😭

Like, as a native german speaker, her “Auf Wiedersehen“ was actually pretty good. I have seen people butcher way simpler words way harder

Someone get her to play Ace Attorney. She'll have a ball with Von Karma.

Crystal theorys are the free versions of ms. ideal's theorys

what's even better is that Miss Ideal is straight up WRONG. None of what she was saying was even remotely true.

@@sarafontanini7051 exactly! It ended up being just rumors, and ngl I find it kinda funny that the writers thought up of such a crazy scenario that ended up being a rumor in the end

or rather she never accepted that a part of her DID hold something against them thus stunting ehr growth. Granted I'm not sure that's how that specfic shadow worked in this game, the rules are different here.

That really makes the PSone boxart of both P2 games REALLY hit in a different way. For the first title to introduce shadow selves, it does a DANG good job.

I wonder if he will ever return in a spinoff or Persona 6

@@supernerd8067 Maybe Jose will take his place ?

@@supernerd8067 I hope at least make him as "human conciousness" or something. I mean damn, we got another plot for why Igor is the velvet room master now, what the hell happened to Philemon

@@snailthelostcow63 didn’t he exile himself to imprison nyarly or was that just a fever dream of mine

Nyx is at least confirmed stronger and Nyarlathotep should be about equal. Also not sure what would happen if like, he faced Universe Makoto or how that works because the Universe is weird. Besides those exceptions though, perhaps some actual SMT crossover, I do think he is the strongest. He's not unstoppable, Chronos seemed able to trap him in Q after all, but still.

No.

Sh0eOnHead video intensifies

Yu and Yosuke could've been what Tatsuya and Jun were, but sadly not, the innocent sin comitted by Atlus will not be forgotten.

I dunno, Tatsuya and Jun seem to have WAY better chemistry than Yu and Yosuke, so I'm not bothered by the fact that the Yosuke route got scrapped. Actually, can someone please explain to me the appeal of Yu/Yosuke? And in a way that doesn't boil down to "they're both guys"?

@@Anime_CartoonKIAI can try, but I may not be the best person. Having not played Persona 4, but just as somebody who has listened to others talk about it and that particular ship. Fans of this ship really like to use the word “partner”. Like Yosuke as the right hand man, the person who always has the protagonists back. The first confidant you make. People who think that your romantic relationship should be your best friend. Weirdly their are a lot parallels between people who ship Yu with Yosuke and Ryuji and Akira shippers.

​@@bananamilk8099 But not even Joker/Ryuji got this much pleading from fans who criticize P5. Which means that Yu/Yosuke must've resonated more with P4 fans than J/R to P5 fans, but I still don't see why. (I mean, Yosuke can be pretty annoying sometimes. Even if that route was available to me, I still wouldn't date him.) Plus I've seen more fans complain that Joker can't date Akechi than Ryuji, and yet Ryuji is supposed to be the Yosuke of that series.

@@Anime_CartoonKIA I've played all Persona games, so I kinda know what shippers are on about. The through-line of Tatsuya/Jun, Yu/Yosuke and Ren/Akechi is Empathy and Support + capital-T Trauma. Tatsuya and Jun have their shared childhood trauma with everyone in the fire, but they also have their private unbreakable bond to each other as symbolised by the lighter. Jun gets it worse of the pair as he's rumor-brainwash-magiced into being Joker, leading Tatsuya to help save Jun. Childhood friends who have been separated and reunited through a dramatic rescue and now support each other unquestioningly through their shared traumas can be romantic if you wanna look at it like that, so it's popular. Yu and Yosuke have a similar vibe but in a shorter time span. Both are technically the New Guy in town so they can supposedly relate to each other, and Yosuke especially pushes for any kind of bond at the beginning of the game because he feels he's got no friends (outside of maybe Chie, who keeps kicking his ass). Then Yosuke suddenly goes through the death of his crush and his whole Shadow Self where only Yu and Teddie are around to witness and support him. Again, one guy rescues the other (this time all by himself) and they end up supporting each other unquestioningly. The difference is that the bond is solidified not in a shared childhood, but in the S-Link and other major interactions that develop through the game where Yosuke basically shows just how much he seeks Yu's attention and approval over anyone else. This can be extended into a romance very easily if wanted, which Atlus almost did. The whole "partner" thing is just a bonus. Imo Ren/Akechi is the one that I shake my head at the most because it's primarily just fans going "I can fix him". Still, Ren and Akechi both have shared traumas caused primarily by Shido and Yaldaboth, but there's a major difference in that they literally can't support each other because they're too different to properly accept the other. Akechi specifically is the problem since he spits on the idea of changing too much and accepting support from Ren, even just as a friend. Royal gives a bit more time to the development of the relationship, but imo it's pretty much another version of Yu vs Adachi but they're in the same age range this time so a relationship is seen as acceptable by fans. People just love the tragic angle of it, I guess, and daydream of a peaceful resolution and blooming relationship that the game's story would never be able to effectively give them without watering down Akechi's whole point as a character. And then there's Ren/Ryuji. It's kinda got some trauma and support in it, but it's to a far lesser degree because Ryuji just feels more...idk... Independent? Like, all the other ships have this vibe of "they _need_ each other because the support provided by their relationship makes them both better", but Ryuji typically doesn't feel like he "needs" Ren after his awakening and the defeat of Kamoshida. His trauma basically feels "resolved" the moment he summons his persona and declares he's not gonna take anyone's shit, plus his stunt on the boat finishes the subtle arc about his injured knee, which he never showed obvious anxiety or constantly asked for any emotional support for. Even in his Confidant and general interactions Ryuji is determined and unfaltering, if a little goofy since he's comic relief 85% of the time, so Ren's help doesn't have the same dramatic value. If you were to put the two in a romantic pair there wouldn't be much implied development, so fans push the idea of a relationship a little less. But hey, that's just my analysis. I don't even like going down romantic routes anyway.

@RAYHAN REHEMA PUTRA "mid game"? you've clearly never played it. The duology are the best written games in all of megaten. Yes, the gameplay is turn your brain off easy, but so is P5.

@RAYHAN REHEMA PUTRA It doesn’t need side quests like the later games because it’s not a stupid calendar system game. It’s a different era of JRPGs, and it still stands up better than any other persona games. Just because it’s not as flashy as the later ones, that doesn’t make it bad. High encounter rate is just a mild annoyance, because it’s so easy to body them. Cards aren’t an issue either once you know how to do demon talk with the specific ones. Also P5 is equally as easy, if not moreso than the PSP P2’s

@rayhanrehemaputra1719 it's mid game, but story is legit masterpiece

@RAYHAN REHEMA PUTRA "The game doesn't even challenging". Yeah, I think you never played Eternal Punishment. The difficulty spike is a bit cruel in that one, pretty realistic since it's an all adult casts lmao

@RAYHAN REHEMA PUTRA adding "by fact" doesn't make it a fact. That's not how that works you donut lmao. That's still a subjective take by nature. When did this clownfoonery start? You can't just add that and boom it's objective fact. Mental gymnastics at its finest. Sheesh.

Imagine the Shido arc exposition dump repeated everytime a twist happens

@@ryokiritani4187 OH GOD NO “DAMN BRAT! I’LL SUE!” Every hour 😭

Imagine if they did it better with P4 "fake culprits". Hell, they could've done better with Izanami as well. Imagine if one of our party had Izanami as their persona and we don't think much about it since we got Izanagi after all but it won't be outta nowhere like the "totally unimportant gas attendant"

@@snailthelostcow63 oooouuuu that definitely would’ve made P4 EVEN MORE interesting

I think Persona 5 could’ve been more interesting if Ryuji was the traitor instead of Akechi. I just want to see a game where the culprit or traitor is that last person you’d expect. It would take a bit of rewriting. The gang would still eventually suspect Akechi, but, once they got him into the interrogation room, Akechi would attempt to help Joker instead. He would still have to be the one who causes the mental shutdowns, but it might be that Shido was blackmailing and forcing Akechi into it. Eventually, Ryuji would get caught. He had enough of being constantly called useless and wanted true fame as the person who caught or gave away the Phantom Thieves. Can you imagine the reaction of characters like Haru or Ann? On another note, I think Haru could make a cool traitor too, although, again, a *large* amount of rewriting would have to happen.

why don’t we see more of him?

​@Plaguecoric After Eternal Punishment he leaves for Milk.

P5 is definately closer to 1 and 2 in some aspects, like having the shadows look like the personas instead of whatever they where on 3 and 4, the negotiation with shadows is also closer to 1 and 2 as well.

With Royal I coulda swore we were *this close* to doing something with Nyarlathotep again... Azathoth being tangentially tied to P2 would've been cool, but oh well I'm still happy the eldritch vibes were included lol

@@CelestiaLily I mean, he is Nyarly's grand daddy, makes sense XD

@@RyzaTT GrandNyarly

Ironically it kinda plays out where Joker is the good guy in 5... and in the dub Joker and Tatsuya may have issues at first. Tatsuya wouldn't trust someone named Joker.. and Joker wouldn't trust Tatsuya's voice. That's not even touching on returning tothe lovecraftian mythos

I always get the complaint that it's too grindy. Which is fair, but you don't care if you're used to it

They also forget king DILF Zenkichi

Plus the fate of them

Mitsugi is adorable she needs more love

Or worse considering he technically destroyed himself from the timeline right? The ending and ep are confusing

same, what a coincidence. I wanted to finish the game before watching the VODS but now this video came out at just the right time

D-daddy-o?

It's so... unmistakeable

No joke he is my favorite male protag.

honestly i think he's the best written silent protagonist i've ever seen. All gameplay aspects of a silent protagonist play into his actual personality. He's quiet and distances himself from others due to social trauma from incidents where his persona has appeared without him wanting it. We make his choices for him because he's very indecisive, as we see in the opening with him discussing his career with Ms. Saeko. I thiiink there's a couple of other things too, but it's been a few years since i've played.

i actually managed to see them with the naked eye in my backyard, even just as a little blob of white dots with my shitty eyesight they were breathtaking!

@@Arcsin27 Same! I make an effort to observe them whenever I can, whether with a scope or with the naked eye.

I couldn't believe what I heard, I had to Reload the page!

Well she did recently play through Devil Survivor, so... XD

also this video was posted on katsuya's birthday 😳

P2 kinda gets overlooked since it was a split story and only officially released outside of Japan on 2 different console generations with only the second half of the story available for a decade in the west. That being said P2 eternal punishment is my favorite game of the whole SMT verse (including all SMT, Persona games and spin-offs) at least in terms of story… newer entries have nicer mechanics.