I Finally Get What Paper Mario Fans have been Saying All This Time | The Thousand Year Door 

If you think the remake has too much backtracking you should see the original game. That pipe room just isnt there.

This is what Paper Mario should be, build upon on these mechanics and design philosophies.

Honestly it will be a bigger disappointment than Sticker Star if they make another Paper Mario not in this style after the success of the remake.

Nice to see some newer fans understanding why we loved the og's so much now :)

I think what has kind of stung all this time is this is really the only franchise they're treating this way. Yes Nintendo does change things up pretty drastically in some ways, but mainline 2D Mario is always going to be platforming to a flag, 3D Mario is always going to be a star collectathon, Zelda is always going to be a lone-hero action adventure game, etc. But Paper Mario just hasn't had a firm identity for a while. Is it a turn based RPG? Is it a sidescroller? Is it a collectathon? Does it involve platforming? Does Mario have a party of unique friends? You can't really tell from the sum of the series' games at this point. It was best when it had a strong identity, and I hope it goes back to that identity soon. It was pretty special.

16:56 i can hear the "hear me out" so badly here XD

Glad you understand our frustration (for 20 years mind you) and elation of finally beating getting it remastered.

Honestly, I am very excited to see where Modern Paper Mario 4 can go. They really sharpened the "many memorable moments"-style of the modern games by the time of Origami King(I mean, just look at all the ways Mario can just die brutally for instance, lmao. That certainly left an impression), while this remake has proven that the old elements are still in demand and the fanbase isn't just capping. If they decide to combine the two, we could have the greatest Mario RPG ever on our hands.

Super Mario RPG if you haven’t played is what the Paper Mario games were the spiritual successor to. It has the action command prompts too for attacking and defending, has a story that gives a few twists (I don’t recall another game prior to it that had friendly npcs that were goombas, koopas, etc). All sorts of hidden stuff, and while overall it’s a smaller game it’s still worth checking out.

Me replaying the remake made me realize how much I love Madame Flurrie, I loved having her in my party at all times just hearing what she had to say, I absolutely adore her personality. she is a queen you rock on Flurrie.

I kept the honored tradition of naming my yoshi Segway and he came out pink this time.

Idk how they released TTYD and said: lets literally never use this system again. Insane

I also played TTYD having not played the original. I already knew most of what was coming, but experiencing the story and characters firsthand was such a fun experience, and the climactic ending was the best. With the influx of Mario RPGs we’ve been getting, I really hope Nintendo takes a hint and makes more peak 🙏 Also I got a Black Yoshi, and named him Dash (bc that’s what he does lol) 😎

I would genuinely lose my shit if Nintendo remade Super Paper Mario, that game is so peak

Black Yoshi, I named him Dashell to honor Super Paper Mario which will hopefully one day get a remake. And my favorite partner is Vivian it pretty much always has been.

Fantastic video. Happy to be a Mario RPG fan atm. Can't wait to get my hands on TTYD remake. Edit: Forgot to say, the original TTYD didn't have that warp room, you used to have to walk back everywhere to backtrack. 😅

My yoshi was red and I called him Hikari after the character from Octopath Traveler 2 😊

Glad you got to enjoy such an amazing game. Great video summarizing the beloved (and a couple less so) parts of TTYD. Blue Yoshi named "Lil Gonz" for Little Gonzales ~

Prior to this, my only experience with Paper Mario was Super for the Wii. And While not a bad game, I didn't find it clicking with me all too well (softlocking my save file was probably to do with it). TTYD on the other hand is an absolute masterpiece that I could not agree more with the hype train on. It may not be perfect (whenever the enemies had fog on their side I wanted to spontaneously combust), but I can confirm: More of this Paper Mario Please

My yoshi in the remake is green and I named him Hoshino. Hoshino Yoshi. Hoshi means star, and Hoshino sounds like "hoshi no". So Hoshino Yoshi sounds like "hoshi no Yoshi", meaning "Yoshi of the Stars".

This narration is the voice I imagine when I use the 🤓 emoji and repeat back what someone just said in a mocking tone in a comment reply

I think what happened to Nintendo with Paper Mario was that Thousand Year Door released in the Gamecube era. And at the time, the anti-Nintendo propaganda in the industry & media was SUFFOCATING. Gamecube got left in the dust saleswise & only appealed to the most core Nintendo fans like me (still got my Gamecube!). Nintendo's attitude to seemingly everything released in that era was "It wasn't good enough to breakthrough so let's change". Wiis & DS's success showed them that changing things up improved sales which is why Super Paper Mario started moving away from its core RPG roots. It was still good but it led to changes seen in Sitcker Star through The Origami King. Nintendo put their best efforts into those Gamecube games & the audience at the time largely ignored them. So Nintendo thought they did something wrong. It's the same thing that happened to Star Fox & F-Zero. But there was never nothing wrong with those Gamecube games & the anti-Nintendo propaganda has faded now. So Nintendo is finally rethinking their attitudes towards that Gamecube-era game design which seems to be beloved now. That's why they put out that Paper Mario survey asking the fans for answers which they don't do often. Good games caught up in bad times. And it made Nintendo second-guess how they did things...even to a fault.

The Mario RPG gimmick is that you can press buttons with good timing to do more and take less damage. It sounds minimal, but it matters a lot - non-Mario RPGs, when you get stuck, it's level up, get lucky, or find some strong/cheesy strat, but Mario makes you go "man if I had only hit a few more action commands" and run it back and try to play better. I'm glad you get that TTYD is an excellent game. It's a beautiful thing to experience. Also, in my humble opinion, Kersti is the best damn one man I gotta put some respect on the sticker tsundere.

Didn't know the yoshi thing actually. I got a classic green. And: It IS nice to see a remake address issues with the original, like the backtracking.

When i first played the game as a kid, i got a blue yoshi and named him Blue. When i played the remake, I decided to get blue yoshi again but this time name him Bubbles. But somehow my child mind kept seeing him as my Blue and I kept calling him Blue throughout the whole playthrough.

I finally managed to finish TTYD for once as I pirated the original a few years ago but I never finished chapter 7 but this time I ventured through the thousand year door into the palace of shadow and beat the shadow queen

Only caused you asked favorite partners are Goombella (rally wink is so good) or Yoshi kid with Vivian, Koops, and Admiral Bobbery I got a black one and named him Scrap works on a number of levels Scrap can refer to a small animal, as soon as he hatches out of the egg he's waiting to get into a fight or Scrap, and he's made from a Scrap of Paper I even came up with names for the other colors for future playthroughs White - Icarus Orange - Rocket Pink - Honeydew Blue - (now do it again with Manly) Gusto Red - Scorch Green - Midoriya (shounen) (Personally, I prefer Zoro, but sadly, Yoshi's don't weild swords)

I’m all for innovating the formula of a game series - but when the formula was already so good and so unique, it really hurt for them to turn their backs on it! My brother and I are massive fans of the original two games, but were gutted when we played Super Paper Mario and discovered what a departure it was. We haven’t bothered playing any of the entries released since then, because it was obvious they still hadn’t returned to the original elements that we’d loved so much. It has certainly been joyous to play the remastered Thousand-Year-Door! I don’t expect them to do new entries in this style, but if they ever do… I’m there!

I got the green Yoshi, and I only named him "Speedy" because of Mario's nickname "Gonzales," making the team name Speedy Gonzales

Awesome video and fun analysis! This is my favorite game of all time, so I'm happy that you enjoyed it so much! Also, in my playthrough of the remake, I got a red Yoshi and named them Redgy, very original lol

White yoshi named him whiteout

My first yoshi as a kid was orange. He looks like the boss of his chapter, it was sick. Ever since ive gotten green. Took me til my third play thru over the years to google it and find out its based on time between getting the egg and hatching it lol

8:11 In the GameCube version, Bobbery was only partner who would not fall asleep during Luigi's tales. It have him more character. I'm not sure if this is true, but I've seen some people say it was due to a coding error on the GameCube. Overall though, the remake was fantastic, and they added so many little details, it added a lot to the experience as a whole!

I got dark blue, and named him Scrapper.

I got the white yoshi and I named him Krystal :3 (I love this game so much, Im so happy I get to play it again after all these years, as of right now I'm sitting at a pretty 75 hours of playtime :3)

I think this shows how much content and effort was put into video games from then vs now. Also, amazing video dude, very high quality.

I hope you enjoy Paper Mario 64! It has aged exceptionally well, perhaps better than any other game for its console. It used to be tied with TTYD near the top of my favorite games of all time, but the remake treatment of TTYD put it over the top. I hope that 64 also gets the remake treatment, as it absolutely deserves it!

I probably beat Paper Mario at least 3 times… with different badge builds and discovering more star pieces. So much fun. I love TTYD

If you're willing to dive into the world of Paper Mario mods/fan games the amount of quailty Paper Mario mods out there is wild. There's also more indie games release/in development that take huge inspiration from Paper Mario than I can count. Its a good time to be a fan of Paper Mario if you enjoy that classic formula.

I got white Yoshi, named him Holy

It is amazing to watch a video from a newbie's perspective, because I thought this game was incredible twenty years ago, and I'm loving history repeating itself! So glad you made this video! Are there any elements of Origami King that you'd like to see carried over to a hypothetical Paper Mario 3?

I just replayed TTYD and I purposely got the Pink Yoshi and named him Boulder, because he from my og playthrough

I genuinely hope they touch up 64 and Super, and hope Paper Luigi's adventures become games

Goombella is just a FANTASTIC ally. Her personality, while more respected in the original, is quirky and also smart. Reinventing usual enemies as allies is just wonderful.

I named my blue Yoshi Joe Cool.

My Yoshi was green and I called him Glucose

Red Yoshi: Scrimbly

The goat has now played the goat video game! glad you liked it!

I'm hoping and praying for Paper Mario to get triumphant new entry like Mario & Luigi in the future. A new PM on the Switch 2 could be the most insanely creative Mario RPG to date.

Just because you asked, I got a Red Yoshi. I named him Red Hot because way back when I first played OG TTYD, I got a Red Yoshi.. and named him Red Hot. It just felt right, even if the name is silly.

I would be all in favor for a Super Paper Mario remake because I literally grew up with Super Paper Mario. Also I got the black Yoshi, and named him "Preston", hehe.

Only having 1 partner and no customizable badges makes replays little fun. I played thru TTYD dozens of times but only twice thru Super Paper Mario it is obvious which style is better.

Im an OG TTYD huge fan. Absolutely love the remake too. My partner yoshi, no matter what color he ends up, is always G. Junior (Gonzalez Jr is too long). He's a black yoshi this time

0:18 I agree 17:23 Pink, and I named him "DJ Pink", after a lucky chosen stream viewer who contributed to my stream of the game.

It should say something that when I have 130hours in splatoon3 but I have 190 hours in paper Mario TTYD. That should say how good this game really is X3

I tried to go for a red Yoshi, if I remember correctly, but I didn’t properly understand how the timing system worked-I thought you could just hatch him whenever you wanted by breaking his egg with a hammer strike or something. Turned out he just hatches on his own when you reach the threshold where you need him to progress. He ended up green. I named him “Tyranno”, after “Tyrannosaurus”.

Vivian is my favorite partner. I got a blue yoshi and named him Tom

Orange Yoshi. Name: Oran. Name of an old character of mine, and it fits the cute orange guy. I'd go green, but green is the basic yoshi color and I like a color spice.

Badges in the Paper Mario games have a very similar role to weapons in TotK to me.

I played super as a kid so I never knew what og paper Mario was like. I was so happy to play the ttyd remaster and it’s become one of my favorite games hands down. I just hope Nintendo makes a mainline game that stick with the original battle formula, but with new twists just like ttyd did

I also now do. I got an orange yoshi and I named him Rocket.

How dare you imply Koops isn't the coolest of beans? D

Glad you like the original Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door And since you plan on playing the first Paper Mario game, I would also recommend playing Bug Fables: The Everlasting Sapling A game that Paper Mario fans claims as the true successor of the first two Paper Mario games. I recommend that since that game shared the same “paper aesthetic,” great characters and interesting story It’s hard to choose my favourite party member, but I do want Nintendo using these characters more. If Toadette, a character who first originated from Paper Mario, remained relevant and used throughout the various Mario spin-offs. I don’t see why the same can’t happen with Goombella, Koops, Flurrie etc To my knowledge Nintendo made these games, therefore shouldn’t have any legal issues like Geno and Mallow As for my Yoshi I got an orange one. I wasn’t really picky which color I got, it just happened. I named them “Oranjshi” which is a combination of both orange and Yoshi. And fun little pun to Japanese word for Orange “oranji”

Im just looking forward to a 'Paper Mario 3'. Origami King's freshness with the combat style and partners of TTYD... Yes please.

I'm old, and I love seeing those younger than me enjoying one of the best games of its time.

Green yoshi named tide pod

Yeah, play pm64 because this is the evolved version of that. Many characters are references to 64 characters and ttyd references it enough that it's worth actually having the context for little details you get. Plus they added the old gang in Mario's house in the pic in ttyd remake

Wanna try something similar to Paper mario thousand years door, while also being more modern than standart paper mario? I suggest you try Bug Fables The Everlasting Sapling. It was what we ate while waiting for this remaster xD.

😂 Lugis story in the Waffle Kingdom cracked me up so much, him being so hyped he got to be grass was what ironically made me love this game to death. It’s peak silly Nintendo humor and I love it.

My first Paper Mario game was TOK, and I really liked, and I didnt really get why people wanted the older games back so badly. And after playing the remake, I finally got it, and I enjoyed it even more than TOK, and I hope we get to see more paper mario games like these. However, Ill still love TOK, there's no changing that

Fun fact, TTYD is the true first Paper Mario game. The original was actually going to be Super Mario RPG 2 (there's even a scrapped title screen in the game's files), but Rare was bought out only halfway through development, so the game had to vastly change. That's also why the art style for it is so different, and is at times derivative of other Mario titles, it was essentially to save time and resources. The "Paper Mario" title was a western translation error even, and Nintendo only committed to that title because while it didn't sell that well in Japan, it was a massive hit with western audiences. Even then, you could tell they wanted to make the TTYD feel like a sequel to the original, and just have a few cheeky nods to what was originally just a mistake - like the gimmicky gameplay was the last thing they leaned into to make the subseries feel unique to anything else Mario. Modern Paper Mario games however, are the opposite, their gimmick is immediately in your face, baked into the story, world, characters, etc. Just the titles and box art alone give off a different vibe.

Black Yoshi, named Shanks (One Piece) bc of his red hair. Also his color scheme sort of matches Shank’s white shirt and black cloak

Glad to see this be received well all these years later. One of my all time favourite games.

Got the blue yoshi and named them Punkshi

Same here, after playing Paper Mario TTYD I understand why it's the best game and why it's so good

I kinda want nintendo to hold off on too many more remakes until they unveil/release the next console, unless they will make a bunch of Switch games available on the next console too. I could see a huge selling point for upgrading to the new consoles being that companies are remaking, remastering, or just porting old games to new hardware

Growing up I played both the original TTYD and Super Paper Mario, having gotten pretty far in both but not completed either (I think it was always the last area that gave me trouble? Not gonna say either names here due to spoilers but both are pretty dark "royal" locations). Both times I had so much fun with the adventure I wondered if finishing the game was worth it if it meant separating myself from that fun crew and leave that entire adventure behind (one of my biggest fears in games is enjoying the finale only for it to not matter because the postgame is like "oh you thought that was cool? Bruh that never even happened lmao", leading me to almost never finish RPGs in fear of that). With Super I would later come back to the game just fine and actively find out that it wasn't the case there either (I first found out I wouldn't have to worry about that in this series when I played the N64 game last and was pleasantly surprised with a postgame actually taking place AFTER the game), and I could fully enjoy the worlds I once traversed in a hurry and find out how things have held up since I saved said entire world. The grandiose adventure with all the new friends I had made along the way was worth it, and that feeling was one I rediscovered here with the TTYD remake (I had put off the original due to the aforementioned fear as well as struggling to get past a certain obstacle in the last area)-- every ounce of that grandiose adventure was still there for me to freely roam around, talk to the folks that were important to my journey before and see how things have held up since, while still enjoying extra challenges (both ones from the og game and ones new to the remake) to take advantage of the game's interesting combat mechanics. This is the Paper Mario I've always known and loved. The big, adventurous Mario RPG series that feel like Mario's fun world being given the depth of Zelda's. None of that wannabe arts-&-craft BS where the only folks I could talk to were the same generic Toad designs ad nauseam like Sticker Star had me experience (no matter how much its two successor tried to improve things; sadly you can't remove a feeling of cheapness like that easily). This is the kind of Mario world I want to see-- no "it's actually just a stage play" or "it was a dream" loopholes, and no "haha this world is paper!" immersion-breaking humor, just a real living world that happens to be the wacky Mario universe. Just like its brethren Mario RPG and Mario & Luigi, and I think all three deserve to coexist due to their different but equally as good takes. Mario RPG set the groundwork for such an excellent idea, PM brought it to life even further with more partners willing to join and have their own arcs as well as even more ambitious storylines in general, and M&L brought its own comedic storytelling into the mix by just being a quirky but fun adventure. My favorite partner is the Yoshi kid, followed by Koops. Both have been an amazing aid in combat (Koops especially helping with the Pit of 100 Trials while Yoshi was amazing at bosses), and I do find Koops to have a solid arc of mustering up strength by going on a journey with Mario to be a satisfying character development. The Yoshi Kid is one I really enjoyed the interactions with due to the rough style of speaking he has (which btw is another highlight of every partner; Goombella is sassy af, Koops and Vivian are both more bashful, Flurrie talks in a way that's so rosy it can become hilarious in certain contexts ["gibiers de potence" in the French version upon beating the Shadow Sirens for the second time LMFAO], Bobbery with the sailor speech in general, even Ms Mowz has unique lines befitting her flirtatious thief image), but just the idea of having gotten the egg (which is mysteriously multicolored unlike regular Yoshi eggs) always raised the interesting question of "who's child is this" imo (and if our unfortunate circumstances of hatching him in the middle of a gladiator pit isn't exactly a good parenting strat. '^^). I got the default green Yoshi due to how fast I was trying to go through the Glitz Pit by optimizing every fight. I named him Yo'ster in reference to the name of Yoshi's Island in the original localization of Super Mario RPG, and have this fun little headcanon where he might be related to the Yoshi (Mario's best bud) from Super Mario World and the spinoffs, just ended up separated due to circumstances (the egg moving on its own could've lead to an unfortunate timing of him getting onto a ship leaving the original island or smth).

my blind run on gamecube was a black yoshi named spike, and no, i didnt have the context of 64 at the time to see the irony about naming his replacement the "cool" name. XD From then on, i was always green on replays simply because knowing what to do and keeping relatively consistent strategies resulted in a very consistent time frame that aligned with it. I am hoping the randomization is a bit more random in the remake (even if just shortening the windows so minor quirks of each battle change the consistency enough to change colors), but i havent taken the plunge yet, though i likely will if nothing new catches my eye soon.

My favorite video game of all time right here. Words alone can't express how grateful I am for this remake and for new players to experience it and have a similar reaction that you did. It only gives me hope for the future of Paper Mario, and that's something we classic fans thought was pretty much gone back in 2020. Referring to a certain interview, not bashing Origami King. Anyway, I got a red Yoshi and named him Alastor.

for Yoshi, I ended up with Green, & named the lil' fighter 'Ares';

I love paper mario and I fully understand and agree with everyone who wants future installments to be like the original 2. What I don't understand is how so many people prefer TTYD over the original Paper Mario.

I see what you did there 16:08

Vivian, who will always stay the girl I believe she was.

red yoshi, named yosha!

Dashie the Black Yoshi

100 pit trials is craaaaaaazy

What I would love, which will never happen, is Super Paper Mario remade as a more traditional Paper Mario game with turn based combat. That would require them to completely redevelop the game from almost the ground up, and nobody would want to go through that trouble (unless you’re making Final Fantasy 7 I guess). But my heart still wants it

Had a orange yoshi named mango just for the pun (as in Man he can go). And a black yoshi named Yo yo as a reff to one of the GG's in Jetset Radio. Both from my save files on my GC ver. As for the remake i got a green yoshi that i named Yo yo again.

They need to double down with the paper gimmick in the next game. Slow down the battles, and have Mario cut and paste his moves together using sensitive motion controls. Because this will slow the game down, remove side characters and characters that are different. Just have goombas and maybe koopas.

my yoshi is blue and i named him boshi

Paper Mario 64 is my favorite paper Mario, it’s probably mostly nostalgia but I LOVE paper Mario. Also, this was a really good video, you’re underrated

I played paper mario 64 on the wii virtual console. Also I got the Black Yoshi in Thousand year door and named him King from owl House

Pink Yoshi: Nezuko Blue Yoshi: Lil Fat Orange Yoshi: Gunsales

I ended up getting the Black Yoshi and named him Viro

I played spm a bit. Ttyd a lot. And never touched another game until recently finishing origami king. And then got the remake. I’m so excited to hear what someone who has really only play tok thinks of the remake cause most the qol changes I felt like were derived from tok being the most recent game

I'm not done with the remake yet(Currently in Chapter 4), but I've been enjoying my time going through it so far. My favorite partner from what I've played is Koops for his personality and because his weaknesses can be easily countered by Mario. P.S. I got the Light Blue Yoshi kid and I named him "Azure" to(at least loosely) match his color.

I would love to play the original Paper Mario in a similar art style as to the remake of TTYD. and I spiritual successor to these games would be amazing. perhaps they could properly make a Paper Luigi game where we follow the story that he tells in TTYD. I could be a shorter game. sharing assets such as rogue port. but then have the player travel to other places like the waffle kingdom. it would be interesting to see how Luigis paper abilities differ from Marios. And how all the buddies he bring to rogue port ended up joining him.

i ended up with a red Yoshi and named him Roshi, similar to Boshi from Super Mario RPG~

There are two indie games inspired by Paper Mario that I know about that you should check out. First is Bug Fables: The Everlasting Sapling a d the other being Underhero (no it not a Undertale AU/rip-off.)

I got a blue Yoshi, named him Baxter 😎