I FINALLY Tried PinballFX! Is It Worth Switching From FX3? 

Have you guys tried Pinball FX on the EPIC Game Store Yet for PC? What did you think? What games did you like or not like? Let me know below!

Geeze, why mess with a good thing and over complicate the entire menu system. I really hate this change and am sticking with FX3 for as long as it's accessible. I don't need a lobby or care about the fluff. I prefer a simple interface like FX3 without all this crap. Thanks PDubs, great video!!

Zen could have made a first person arcade for all the tables you buy.I've been playing Arcade Paradise and this type of setting (not including the laundrormat) would be amazing,walking around your own expanding pinball arcade,stepping up to a complete machine with art and backglass etc...instead just another even less inspiring set of menus again,it's just not different enough for me to re-buy tables.

Thanks for the info. I thought pinball fx 3 was newer, but thanks to this video now I know pinball fx is the newest one. Good looking out

To everyone else, don't give in. They're trying to entice people by not releasing anymore on consoles, but don't do it... You're going to get sucked in and then have to buy all the same tables again because we all know it sucks seeing grayed out tables and or having to switch back and forth and we want it to just be all in one... Eventually they'll have to release this new version to consoles and they'll be available everywhere again. With how many people that have pretty much boycotted this new version, it's only a matter of time that they'll redo the purchase structure and let people bring their existing tables with how much back lash they have gotten... Once they see they're not making money like they used to is when they'll have to start listening to the fans & customers again... You see this all the time when companies don't have competition anymore. Now that Farsight is out of the digital Pinball market it's just Zen really. Zachariah Pinball is not even on their same level because they don't have the big licenses. So don't give in, keep resisting and don't give them anymore of your hard earned money... The other thing with this ticket bullshit is if they lose the license or it runs out, then they can take it out of your library or something like that since you didn't actually buy the table, you bought tickets that you redeemed for a table. So if the license for said table runs out or doesn't renew then you're SOL and they can just replace it with a generic table or maybe none at all. It might stay if you have it downloaded, but if you delete it or update to a new version that doesn't have it anymore, then you can't re-download it... Like now even with Farsight, if you bought the Williams tables before they lost the license, you can still re-download them even if you delete them or get a new console. I was able to re-download all of them from the ps4 to the PS5... It sucks, I used to support Zen as well. But what they're doing and started neglecting console customers and now doing the BS beta early release nonsense and not releasing it to everyone at the same time and being a complete final version without a bunch of bugs... They've gotten lazy and took their customers for granted because they're the only ones doing digital Pinball now... It's like a bunch of corporate people took over instead of people that actually cares...

Excited to see your video on cabinet support… 😊

Thanks for taking the time to preview this! I've been playing Pinball Arcade for ages and just bought a few packs for Pinball FX 3 and of course then heard that this was coming out soon. Haha. Well thats the way it is sometimes I only sank like 15 dollars into it. I hope we see more Williams/Bally tables. That's what really brought me too the dance in PBA. One question I had is can you set the 3D elements to off as default on the Williams tables? I appreciate that they are toggable but I'd just like to play Attack from Mars from the get go without having to deal with the 3D models. Also one complaint I had about FX3 was it dumping you out into a menu at the end of your session. I miss out on hearing the "Back again" messages from a lot of the tables. Anyhoo minor quibbles. Thanks again for the preview!

When you were going through your settings, I saw HDR was off. if your pc and TV or monitor supports it I recommend turning it on. The contrast between darks and lights look fantastic with HDR. I set my HDR game brightness to 1200 and it looks great. I'm glad you finally checked it out man!

Zen has said the ticket system is part of setting up cross-platform purchases. It’s like V-Bucks in Fortnite. I will deal with the ticket system if it means I only have to purchase these tables 1 time and play them on everything.

Patrick I'm glad your loving it. I'm still waiting for the Steam release next year with all of the features unlocked. The exclusives tables are great thou.

Are they going to make you buy all new tables or are they actually going to let you import tables. Sick and tired of paying these outrageous prices for tables over and over again which is why I try not to buy too many to begin with! I feel like they are missing out on a lot of money by being too greedy.

If they let you import the Fx3 tables you own that would be great. The Williams tables I own would be nice.

I wish you could reverse the nudging left to right on the analog stick. It seems to me in FX when you nudge it's relative to the ball instead of the table. If you nudge right, the ball should go left, and vice versa.

I'm just getting into the pinball but I really like the vr pinball any of you playing on that

Im new to virtual pinballing. just started building my own machine with an old Mi Box 4k i had just laying around. didnt want my first build to be high end and expensive. just a learning tool of my does and donts. i'll do a PC one next after i finish this one.

I’m with you!! The ticketing system is annoying…but they are doing it in hopes that people spend more money. Since “tickets” don’t mean anything to people, it doesn’t sting as much when you purchase something. They purposely do not want to use a cash system because they don’t want you to truly know how much you are spending.

Let’s see some 80’s Bally tables like eight ball deluxe , playboy etc

I need to check this out at some point, but need to look into it it has a table mode and the GPU requirements. I'd be running this on my Legends pinball which has a pretty modest GPU (Rx 6400) since honestly most of the tables you can get by with a fairly low power graphics card.

Dr dude is in Fx3 too. Cabinet mode does not run smoothly yet for alp

Nice video. I may do the same (buy only the ones I don't already have on fx3).

Thanks great insight. This is crying out for a VR version with the collectables, like the Star Wars collection on Quest 2, you can decorate your room with trophies. I did contact Zen to ask if they were bringing more tables to VR but they said no? I have a cabinet with FX3 tables, but have to say playing FX2 and Star Wars on Quest 2 is a whole new level! Would recommend to try them. Does anyone know why they've gone with 'Epic' and left steam?

Thanks PDubs!

I'm going to hold off until they release more new games. I'm still enjoying the tables on the FX3. Thanks for the great video PDubs. Which table on the Pinball FX do you play on the most?

My biggest issue with Pinball FX currently are the following 1. performance issues- I know my rig isnt exactly a beast but there is no excuse for the game to run this badly as it currently does for me (constant stutters and framerate drops) 2. Ticket system- I want to be able to buy my tables at dollar/euro price, not with this obfuscated stupid nonsense I like the room and the whole unlock stuff, it feels pretty enticing, especially with the additional gameplay modes and possibilties such as Pinball Royale coming up, I just wish it wasnt wrapped around this, ugh...nonsensical business mode and performance problems and all that. Until this happens, Im just gonna work on completing my Pinball FX3 collection (I have 87 tables out of 100 bought so far) and play that game, Im in no rush.

Waiting for the console release of PBFX. I have a vpin running off of a switch. Already FX3 on it.

I left well enough alone. I have Pinball Arcade and FX3 on my virtual table. I tried FX and it really sucked. The frame rate was horrible and the game obviously was not ready for release. Add that the UI really was bad (why not keep what works???) So, this is an easy pass.

Cheers for the vid PDubs 👍 Would be interested in a vid covering cabinet support. Personally, I'm currently not interested in Pinball FX as I'm not fussed about their Zen originals and so far the Bally/Williams tables are nothing to write home about. Also, can't be bothered with Epic so I'll wait till it comes to Steam.

I just bought all of the Williams tables in fx3 I might just buy the new ones coming to fix and I can't wait to get pinball fx tomorrow on February 16 witch is launch day for Xbox one series x PS4 and 5 zen studios sed that it's coming to the switch later this year after February of 2023

Great review 👍 Have you by chance tried playing this on a vertical monitor? If so does it go full screen to the play area and look pretty seamless? I'd be interested in seeing that.

So do you own the tables you buy and play them offline or will they take them away from you in 20 years when they shut down the store so they can make you purchase them again?

In case people didn’t know, Zen went with the ticket system to offload the actual purchasing of tables from the platform holder. This will allow for a cross platform table library. Sorry pdubs, I know how much you love buying the same table 4 times😂.

Just like you i have all of them on other platforms but just wondering can you play it on the ALP? Thanks Pdubs for testing the waters for us

I hope you can help me here. Regarding pinball fx ... i have it working on my ALP....But i cant get the backglass image up on the back board... what is it that im doing wrong ?

31 bucks for marvel pinball is absolute criminal

What about rotate screen to play on monitor with pivot?

I have all the Williams tables on FX3, I play only them (PC and Steam deck), single player arcade mode and no special effect. I played most of them at the arcades in the 90s, it’s mostly nostalgia. Should I even consider to get the same tables on the newest FX version? I’ve been living under a rock and just found out about it, and I don’t understeand if FX3 is going to disappear or what?

I own the Universal tables on Pinball FX3. Do I need to buy them again for Pinball FX?

What about the million dollar question? Can you unlock new tables through progression without having to buy anything?

Will they relrelease the rest of the marvel tables, and Bethesda tables!?

Do you get different screen size options like FX3?

I'm loving pinball FX. Using pinball pass meanwhile. I will continue to use fx3 for nintendo switch until they do vertical mode on xbox.

Like to see Pinball FX come to Nintendo Switch and other systems (modern and older).

Does it do 4k sideways? I can't tell without buying a whole new rig. Maybe it is time to upgrade.

SO I'm guessing that if we buy t he tables through Epic, and then Steam finally comes out with FX we would need to re-purchase them through Steam too? Cause Steam would be a lot easier since that is where a lot of my other games are ATM... Those new ones (FX only) look awesome though!

I got it on the steam deck but how to I connect to online, useless without the free tables to play.

I held off buying as well. No big rush for me. I’ll consider buying a few of the new ones when they get back on Steam ( pretty sure it’s a 1 year exclusive with Epic) no interest in doing that ticket crap.

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I bought all of FX3 two times over , not to mention FX, FX2, Zen Pinball, and Williams Pinball on iOS. I have given Zen enough of my money, patiently waiting on Steam release. Hopefully cab mode will be fully baked by then.

Hmmm. Super bummed as I have PFX3 tables, purchased, for my cabinet machine. Not cheap in any way. Not too excited to have to rebuy everything.

Personally, I'm still on Zen Pinball 2. I play on PlayStation and I think it looks, feels and functions fine for my usage. I am only casually into pinball, so I don't need anything fancy or flashy. Plus, I was gifted 3 Marvel and 3 Star Wars tables from PlayStation Plus back on PS3 and they've transferred over to all the games except the most recent. It's worked for me all this time so I see no reason to switch as long as it still lets me play.

I will purchase the Bally and Williams tables again. In my opinion, I don't like how close the flippers are on the Zen tables. I think it feels more authentic compared to FX3

Are there any good controllers that simulate the pinball feel you would recommend?

I can't wait try this on the steam deck. 😉

I hope they come out with a Shrek table for DreamWorks, and more nickelodeon tables

can you play this on legends pinball just like fx3?

Getting rid of tickets will break the psychological manipulation of always having tickets left over after a purchase, luring you in to the sunk cost fallacy money pit.

No more ticket system on consoles, but the physics is kind of slow and the flipper do not respond in the right time. I think in FX3 the ball moves more realistic than FX. Well this is my personal opinion and I expect an update to correct these failures

I Have This Version 👌

I’m a bit disappointed. I have an ALP so caps at 1080p and running a 3060. It doesn’t look as clean and sharp as fx3 does. I seem to recall them saying that you wouldn’t need too beefy a pc to run it. Then they recommended at least a 2070. It doesn’t even look great on a 3060. Maybe I just haven’t spent enough time on the settings but my vpx version of bride of pinbot running basically max settings on the card at 60fps certainly plays better and still looks damn good.

How do I get tickets?

I have EVERY table ever made between Xbox and Psn. I hate the tickets. I would have bought a few today but I’m left with too little tickets to use or I was literally 3 tickets over what I want. I’m not gonna be paying into PBFX unless they change the ticket system. Sorry I love PB and HATE this

I can't transfer my old tables over?

When is this heading to Steam?

I only want it if they have classic pinball mode..... Yes... no silly power- ups ! I'm looking for older tables this time ( pre-1980 ) ....or I'll buy Pinball Arcade tables ....even Zaccauria has cool older looking tables No more table packs with one or two good tables and two rotten tables.... If you want one table you should be able to buy just one ! & if I already have a table on FX3... I'm not buying it again How bout some new tables instead of the same ones over and over again !

Ball seems a little sluggish. Otherwise not bad.

It's not ready yet . It's still early access ..

What about those awful dumb trails behind the ball???!!

The ticket system isn't going away.

Does anyone have an easy way to get these running on a ALP...do steam decks work for OTG...I am not that smart on doing a computer route so just trying to find what's easiest to get these going on an ALP

I never realized FX was a newer version. I thought it was the first one.. why didn't they call it FX4?

Is there a console release date yet?

Love it BUT hate the ball trails

What about cabinet mode?

bought indiana jones & adams family yesterday 25€. who cares i love these pinballs

Dr.Dude table is featured in Pinball FX3 too

1) the lame tickets/pinball pass model 2) the fact that they did nothing to help people who spent hundreds of dollars on tables for fx3 to migrate 3) that I am running with beelink ser PCs in my two pinball cabs and the Vega 10 on my table top is kinda low end for fx3 let alone the new version. I suspect the radeon 650 on the 6800h for my larger cab would manage it tho. 4) this is only on epic games instead of steam, which would force me to make yet another account. So pretty much I’m mostly planning to just stay with fx3. It’s sad, because I really like the zen tables. If they even had a discounted “upgrade kit” for fx3 users to get the remastered tables they owned from fx3 I might be tempted to try it (tho the ticket system instead of just cash is obnoxious, so maybe not even then).

am i the only one who thinks that the ball seems speed up on FX ? i play Space Station and Funhouse on FX3 over FX because the ball seems more realistic feeling and easier to control . it really seems like the ball is going a hair faster and bounces are just hyper and its harder to get a handle on. im on PC

Is the rewind button or feature still there? I live rewinding a lost ball

still 34 GIGABYTES IS WAYY TOO MUCH FOR A PINBALL GAME

They removed South Park to only make it available to FX

I bought a couple of the new tables and have played a few others (with their daily rotation), and have felt no urge to go back and play them. The UI is also pretty horrid to navigate from the ALP.

Is it possible to play this on the Legends Pinball? I can’t go back to playing virtual pinball with a keyboard or GamePad after setting up my ALP with a PC.

Bo loves pinball. Just not as much as Tecmo Super Bowl.

Why does it look like it's running sluggish

Can we import from fx3?

Long time pfx fan, purchased all tables on ps3, ps4, switch etc. I personally do not believe the tables were 'really' remastered. I think the 'remaster' means they wanted to port all tables to unreal engine, and wanted us, the loyal fans to fund the time it takes to port them. Had they given me my purchased tables, i would have carried on purchasing new tables. As it stands, they want me to pay for all my tables..again. no! not again. Because if any returning fan pays up price, then a new fx will come along and we would have to purchase them all again. The business model here is so bad. They wanted to move to a new engine...and get the loyal fanbase to fund it. Not happening with me. I got all 100 tables in fx3 and sticking to that. They are all in one place. All they had to do, was look after their fanbase. Greed, pure greed. And if disney, williams, bally, gearbox etc want hefty profit cuts in licencing, then they are to blame also. Even sony allowed ps4 games to run on ps5, and they are one of the most anti consumer companies in the world.

Dr. Dude is on fx3 just sayin

No 3dtv support... again... I'll stick with PS3 Zen pinball 2 as once you've experienced these tables in 3D there's no going back.... it looks real on 3dtv in PS3

Looks really choppy, like 30-ish fps...

COuld my laptop run this? Ryzen 9 6900hx 16gb ram ddr 5 4800 mhz 240hz 1tb ssd rTx 3080

seems like that tables are much harder to play on fx than they are on fx3. For sure thats the case on Attack from Mars. I prefer fx3.

No cabinet mode no buy

VPX is free though. Did you run the baller installer on that PC?

ugh.. what a pile of crap. I am not rebuying again... I got skunked on pinball arcade .. I have all the tables .. but they don't do anything with it anymore.

I think I'm done with Zen. Geez, I've bought the game on several platforms over the years. Zen Pinball, then FX2 and 3 and a tons of tables. No, I'm done. I'll pass on this and if I need to scratch a Pinball itch, will launch FX3.

If there's ever a game someone should feel guilt free about pirating, Pinball FX is it. Absolutely shameful how they're conducting their business. I'm glad I still have Pinball Arcade and their Williams collections.

Just downloaded the PS5 version. TLDR: Differences from FX3 are almost unnoticed. Not worth upgrading.

Not worth it if you own an atgame legends pinball. Stick with the origina lpinball fx. These are 4k tables. Made for higher end tables.

Great review👍🏻let’s be honest tho it’s a fucking rip off we have all brought these tables just too start over again so we can put a helmet on a shelf

When they allow us to import our previously purchased tables I’ll play. Until then no thanks Zen👋