you would think that - yet courts will still take the police officers word based on the lie they have written within their statement - even when you have hard proof they are lying
They do. I got convicted of assaulting a police officer because three of them lied under oath. The fourth went back on his entire original statement once under oath saying that he'd actually seen nothing while the other three couldn't make up their minds where I'd supposedly kicked one of them while being shoved and dragged around by three officers whilst in cuffs and yet somehow their word was taken over mine. They're a disgrace.
@@onelove101unity They are paid criminals and are taught how to lie. Especially when they club together to get their story strike, And what was the IPCC aka The Independent Police coverup committee of which all the staff are ex-police, has now changed its name to the IOPC, allegedly an independent office 🤔
If that copper was under stress when asked for his I.D. card, then who on earth thought it would be a good idea to give him a firearm ? You couldn't make this up.
@@ambitiousautos1064 I was a police officer for 30 years and I know how strict selection used to be especially for SO19. Obviously things have slackened a lot since then just like general recruitment. Tick box etc.
Daventry firearms officer John Crane was 'retired' on medical grounds after being found guilty of multiple counts of domestic violence. He was some time later found hanged when an auto-erotic shenanigan went wrong. Coroners verdict, accidental death. I once had the pleasure of being dragged out of bed at gunpoint one Sunday morning in 1987 by Crane and his henchmen. I consider myself very lucky.
Back in the day there were tests to weedle out the crackpots before they were recruited. Im not joking here when I say I'm totally convinced those same tests are now used to find the psychos because they want them for recruits.
Lucic (LU-chich) is a Croatian/Serbian name - he also looks slavic. As a Slavic person myself, who lived during a totalitarian regime, I feel very "familiar" with this police incompetence, aggression and cheating.
I was told growing up never trust a policeman or a reporter because they would fit up or whatever its called even for a pat on the back or even a small promotion.
Thanks for sticking with it Crimebodge. We need people of conviction who are willing to do the heavy lifting. I'm 73, disabled and can only help by liking and commenting. Good luck.
@@realplayer9603 What sort of assessment? By a trained and accredited clinical psychologist? Or, another unqualified police constable? You say, "They want people who are ok with the prospect of killing." Which is rubbish, because the personality you're describing is criminal. There is no shoot to kill policy. It is, or used to be, shoot to stop.
Former Police Officer here. When I was in uniform I'd spend 95% of my time dealing with less than 5% of the local populous (We all know which 5%). A man filming in a public place wouldn't't have got more than a smile and a friendly nod as I'd be far to busy dealing with real police work. How things have changed.
The problem is, thanks to various reforms, the police are now the criminals. Basic rights like free speech, free movement and privacy are dead because of Liebour and Tory laws, and the current bunch of bastards are only to happy to abuse every single on of them.
@@Definitelycreated what does that mean exactly? "Cleansed" - are you stating you had your local area "repopulated" with people of a different and not traditionally UK ethnicity?
A foreign PCSO wearing a gang badge, with his trousers tucked into his boots like a commando...Now they've employed him as an armed officer ? What can possibly go wrong ???
Hi, Crimebodge Well done, We desperately need Heroes men like you. Keep doing what your doing. The Police and our Government has just declared War on the Indigenous Citizens of this country. My husband and I was treated the same way, when we asked for help from the Police.
Don't know where you get the idea that these islands have indigenous humans and don't you know you're a subject of your king, not a citizen? That's the sorry state of things.
This is what big organisation do when in the wrong! They drag it on in the hope that you run out of money and /or drop the case then do the usual delays as much as possible so you’ll get bored and drop the case. My case took 4 years!
@@garrybeech9536 I can think of a few more since the 80s if I rack my brain. Birmingham 6, Hillsborough... Far too many cases of delayed justice, and that's just plod..
Excellent result Crimebodge, good to see that THEY couldn't manage to make it waite away, with extreme patience you've had them by the balls, which was great to see. Btw, I love your loo rolls !
MISFEASANCE IN PUBLIC OFFICE - "A form of misconduct, and it occurs when a public official, public servant or public body knowingly and willingly acts to cause loss or harm to a third party." Hmmm...........
Don’t be so bloody stupid. Sacked??? They’ve already shown the makings of a great police officer 😂😂😂 lying and thinking the law is whatever they say it is!
The police bank on the fact the IOPC will almost certainly back them and 99.9% of the public will never go as far as you have and go to court But the problem will never end if these type of police are never disciplined, they know there’s no consequences for their illegal actions Well done proving inspiration for anyone else in this situation.
The IOPC is staffed with ex police. A FOI request was made to prove it. The police have no independent body to oversee them. The police police themselves. A recipe for diaster, but hey ho. Everyone believes the propaganda police tv shows and the police continue to destroy victims.
Yep. Part of it is the higher ups want dummies like those PSCOs who can recite a script and go on autopilot to waste the publics time. They bank of the older generations fear of "don't cause trouble or the man will be at the door! What will the neighbors say!" to keep the drones in line. Meanwhile Manchester city centre looks like a bomb site with drugs and booze being taken in broad daylight
This is pretty much the tactic used by all public services when they need to cover their incompetence - the NHS, schools, councils etc - take it to the Ombudsman they say - as one NHS trust put it "we mark our own homework" - sums up the culture really 🙄
@@proclipperuk I'm not sure about that. The Met ignored warnings and complaints about Wayne Couzens before he murdered that woman and Yorkshire police repeatedly ignored the warnings and complaints surrounding incidents like the Rotherham gangs. They even arrested a dad trying to save his daughter.
@@proclipperuk you could be wrong there North Yorkshire, York police took my sons life so in my eyes and all the evidence they are the worst .All forces are employing easy manipulated young just out of school teenagers so they can be moulded into the culture
@@tangomike15 Oh dear, somebody has an upheld complaint against their record don't they Tango Mike? And if I'm looking for trouble, I don't have to travel far to find it with idiots like these, eh?
You have got to remember a lot of these are career criminals and the plod job enables to get away with it. I am not saying all of them but as many as 30% the rest are either naive but sincere, or just plain incompetent. Or finally the spotty kid with glasses that was bullied at school that now enjoys bullying the public. This bunch show examples of all these.
The pleasure in thinking that PC Lucic has watched this. Whether it makes him think about his actions or not, I don't know, but at least he can see he is not "invincible" and there is a host of support for Crimebodge.
He’s probably only watched the first two minutes, it was too stressing for him and causing him anxiety so had to switch the video off and run to his superiors reporting it 😂
My son was arrested for something I knew he hadn't done. I didn't trust the police not to carry out a stitch up, so I employed my hyperfocus and checked out what they should have done via regs legistlation. The used threat of arrest to gain consent of search. However, the consent was for his partners student flat and he couldn't give consent to search her property. The search docements were also signed and dated for a few hourrs after the search. They dropped the investigation after my complaint.
Hi, James my husband and I lives in Wiltshire, we are both over 70 years old. We asked for help several times from the local police. We were treated with Contempt and rudeness, they acted like Thug's. We should stick together and ask for an inquiry or inquest into Police behaviour. Kath.
It's terrifying the lengths they'll go to in order to avoid admission of fault. They're clearly used to using these tactics to get away with their wrong doing.
If a judge comes down on the plod, they'll no longer get protection from said plod. We know how they select which crimes and by who they will go after, so that judge would find themselves no better then the rest of us. It's a big club and you're not in it!
I've yet to hear of any police officer being charged with - let alone convicted of - perjury, when it involved lying in order to further the crown's case. It doesn't happen.
Hi Rob unfortunately Iam unable to financially contribute to your channel at the moment. Having lost my job due to police harassment. But one thing I can give you is my moral support. Well done Sir and welcome back
Man who panics, and starts having trouble understanding what words mean, when confronted with simple questions... And they gave him a gun... That's really scary. Imagine if some rowdy kids called him a bad word, and the ego he has comes out to play.
Try over here in the USA. We have cops that put prisoners in squad cars parked on train tracks and let the train do the dirty work. They got probation.
This is completely true and something I didn't point out in the video. I pursued an admission of liability because an apology is meaningless. Not only is a 'sorry' from the police empty rhetoric, it does not constitute an admission of liability. The police can still say 'we're sorry' then deny all wrongdoing. The admission of liability is inescapable proof that they were in the wrong and cannot be contested at a later date. However, what this letter demonstrates is that the police can be forced to admit they were in the wrong and still not be sorry about it. The mere fact Lucic was later attested as a PC, then given a gun, pretty much demonstrates the true vale of their contrition.
@@crimebodge7274It’s excellent this was resolved at last. I hope you got aggravated damages for all the obstruction and deceit from the information department.
@@crimebodge7274 he prob be fired in a few years time, however he will just end up joining the border force and thus still be fully warranted in fact get DUEL WARRANTED, and even more powers then the police
Firearms 😮. I can trump that...a guy I went to University with used our microwave to reheat his pies every day... WITH the metal base...we saw it...WTF "oh it does that EVERY time 😳" he now carries a weapon, saw him on a documentary...scares me to this very day !! 😂
It appears that is plausible. There is too much evidence of terrible police behaviour seemingly generated by ego and self importance to ignore your point. My best guess is that the job of policing attracts a disproportionate amount of bad people. The immediate starting point to counter this would be a robust management that understood this and made it clear poor behaviour is not tolerated rather than the current situation where they are supported. It's easy to see who would be the first to join the Gestapo given the choice.
You know cops in the states can 100% legally lie all they want. There's a story of a guy with a missing dad...they said they found the body and we're now going to put down the dog. Even brought the dog in to say goodbye. ....then dad was found...alive and well. It's all legal...which is why you never utter anything but to exersize you 4th, 5th, and most importantly your 6th. They are not automatic, you must assert them. Let them prove a crime without your help.
PCSO's are civvies playing dress-up anyway. I doubt they could have done anything other than aggravate the situation further until the real coppers turn up, which they soon did, for you. Still, cracking job standing up to them, and welcome back to YT Crimebodge! It's been too long
I had a friend who fought in the first Iraq war he later joined the firearms unit with the police. He told me that during police training he was terrified how unprofessional his collegues were when given guns. Having used guns the first thing we were always taught was that no matter if you checked and knew that a gun was empty it should always be treated as loaded and ready to fire. My friend was sat in a room with trainee firearms officers and these childen were waving the guns around like they were toys. One can only hope that training has drasticly improved since then.
@@robba1234 Go and look up how PC Ian Terry, Manchester Police died. It would suprise me if what funkymoped said was right about them being firearm mongs. Just in case you don't check, here's the highlights Pc Terry and a colleague were in a Suzuki Vitara playing the role of a suspected criminal. Both officers were wearing thick jackets, balaclavas, gloves and special face masks designed to protect them from possible impact from paint rounds. Neither officer was wearing body armour. ‘Chris’, who was performing the role designed to disable the vehicle by blowing out the tyres, ran to an area next to the front passenger door of the Vitara carrying a shotgun loaded with Round Irritant Personnel (RIP) rounds. These training munitions were filled with an inert powder, whereas in a live operation they would be filled with CS incapacitant. RIP rounds are used in 12-bore shotguns and, according to the manufacturers, can penetrate timber up 65mm thick, cell type doors and fire doors clad with thin-steel plate on both sides. ‘Chris’ discharged the shotgun at Pc Terry from close range and he was struck directly in the left hand side of the chest, sustaining fatal injuries. The investigation found that risk assessments for the training exercise were inadequate, the training had not been authorised and that RIP rounds only been introduced to firearms training a week before the incident.
So what ? Humans make mistakes - there's been soldiers killed in training and in barracks by guns too. Your mate is exaggerating, or just full of it - and you bought it. @@R.Sole88109
@@robba1234yeah, really is such nonsense. Or maybe the armed unit of the police were playing cowboys and Indians with their firearms for a bit of craic.
@@R.Sole88109 So basically, a bunch of dumbass lads wanted to play with their new toys, got one of themselves killed in the stupidity, they all are still serving as police officers. Fucking disgrace ACAB
When I was a kid, coppers usually lived in the community, travelled to the station by bus, in a spotlessly clean uniform and polished boots. Now, they travel in their cars, in civvies, and don their paramilitary garb at the station. So many of them look scruffy, act like thugs and receive exactly the contempt they deserve. The one at 2:05 is a typical example.
Stick in an application, stick on the uniform and then travel to work on public transport. Let me know how it goes for you. The irony there is that cops when you were a kid were far more likely to be violent, although at least I guess they'd have had shiny shoes.
@@AK-us2di today they are mostly no more than thugs with little to no understanding of the law, acting on their prejudices rather than knowledge and training.
@@realbigtrouble Interesting. See I used to be a response cop in the 2010s, and my dad was also a cop in the 1980s and 1990s, and there was far, far more violence, prejudice, corruption etc. when my dad was in. The Battle of the Beanfield, Miners' Strikes etc. We very much paid for their mistakes with the consequences of things like the Macpherson Report. On the Daily Mail comments the other day the resident armchair critics were claiming they were all woke graduates that couldn't fight their way out a wet paper bag and what we needed was more robust chaps, ex-squaddies, minimum height 6 foot. Which is it?
@@AK-us2di Best to not wish for something because you might just get it. As has been seen in the US and Australia, the police are creeping towards being Private security for Politicians. In Victoria for example, there is a government minister whose job title is "secretary for change of men's behaviour". And then there is the on line safety bill which the US has copied from Australia, which gives police the right to enter someones data stream, and if necessary ,alter the content to gain a prosecution.... you can look that up on the Australian government Web site or the US congressional committees recorded speeches.
@@AK-us2di Well, they are mostly scruffy dickheads these days who haven't got a clue about policing. Times have changed for the worse, no doubt about it. Just look at them in the video. Says it all. My buddy is an ex ARO, and he is one of the few decent ones left in my opinion.
Outstanding.. PC Lucic is a very dangerous chap and will inevitably come a cropper somewhere down the line. My concern is who is employing these people, and then effectively promoting them for bad and inappropriate policing ?
It can't be just a coincidence that everyone of the Police Persons looked extremely dodgy and dishonest. Derbyshire police must train their personnel to be dishonest because it is always in harmony. They are all guilty and the Backroom Thugs being the worste alongside our Members of Parliament.
Well done mate. You are performing a public service - they are not glad you successfully sued them - disgraceful behaviour, utterly void of any integrity whatsoever. Loved the bog roll - genius!!
Ridiculous that it took that long for them to accept it was unlawful. I can't believe this prat is a gun carrying PC now, too. The absolute state of this country.
Serbian or Croatian.loads came here because of the war.(ww2).see what they did to each other!barbarians!Chetniks & Ustaše...one had photo taken with enemies head on his lap.import rubbish like this what does one expect?they don't play cricket either
@@gozitan5 I am guessing with your comment you are one of those people who are offended for someone else while they are not offended . 10 - 20 years ago a policeman used to dress smart ,no tattoos no wacky hair styles ,clean shaved and somewhat respected the public.
Well done Crimebodge! We desperately need more with your drive and passion to weed out the filth and corruption that infects what is essentially a service that is meant to uphold the law not abuse it. 👏
Genuinely impressed! I live in Derbyshire (Chesterfield) and am currently the victim of some very serious but false allegations which are being managed in an appalling manner by Chesterfield police officers - I doff my cap to you - keep it up!
In 2020 a man tried to murder me inside of my house (Lancashire) I was arrested for defending my life and the life of my then 10 year old child. No charges or prossecution for the home invader. All evidence was either ignored or disposed of, including my home CCTV system. I am still fighting them on this, and I won't quit.
Well done, Mr Warner. You are getting stronger all the time and the real crimebodgers are getting weaker. For many of us, you're a national treasure! 😀
It's quite alarming that this dishonorable behavior comes from the police. If you do something wrong, you admit it and make a penance. Avoiding responsibility this fervently is extremely concerning coming from the police.
This is not a isolated incidient their egos are huge and the system is corrupt. Purposely designed to frustrate and sweep under the rug. If you ever hear a officer apologise its a rare day or a rare cop.
Mr Crimebodge you are probably the most courageous, tenacious, veracious exposer of police ineptitude in the country. And the toilet roll had me in stitches.
I admire the commitment you show. Time is precious to ordinary people, but police and other official employees can afford to waste theirs at our expense and drag things out. Well done for your persistence.
The two plain clothes cops were very aggressive tyrants, and it doesn’t surprise me that the unprofessional and dishonest PCSO is now a cop with a gun as he definitely meets the required criteria. Well done for pursuing this to the end because they do everything in the hope you will give up (and sadly many innocent people do give up).
The best punishment of all is this video going public showing the conduct of these petty egomaniacs we now have to call "police officers" Glad to have you back crimebodge ❤
