I did see people defend a cheater, though. That much, at least, wasn't exaggerated. I'm pretty sure it was on the video where he interviewed a cheater.
If this spinbot is like the ones I've seen in CSGO, the cheater gets a traditional third person view of his character model that is stationary/not spinning from their point of view.
Not really too hard, turn supports into healbots, turn up dps aimbots and you primarily control the tank. I don't know how far you could get because bot survivability isn't good but yeah.
The spinbotter isn't seeing himself spin on the floor. It's Client Vs Server. On the Server side of things, anyone who's spectating or seeing the Cass, will see him just spin aggressively as hell. Like we saw with Jay3 spectating. On the Client side of things this is only things the guy who IS Spinbotting sees everything normally whilst still having his hitbox and movements still look weird too others.. Otherwise, if he was seeing himself spin then spinbots wouldn't be used, they'd just use regular trigger/aimbots. TL:DR: Server sided=you guys see him spinning, Client= He sees everything normally. (thank you to the guy in the comments who corrected my terminology) Please comment anything you'd want to add or if I messed stuff up, as this was pretty vague and rushed. Plenty of videos explaining how cheats work which blizzard might want to look into because Spinbots are usually the easiest ones to detect 💀
there are some cheats that are more expensive (spin bots too) which override almost everything, and the only way to see the spin is to watch a replay, because not even with kill cams you'd see the spins, a cassidy - mei were spin botting in my games and i didn't know they were cheating until i decided to watch a replay bc of a sus shot
@@Sac-chan Yeah, those are pretty hard to detect but the cheats I see on Overwatch and how aggressive some of them are really make me question, what's really going on behind the scenes.
the spin is only visible from the replay, unless the cheat is dog, i had a spinbotter before and didn't notice he was cheating until i saw the kill cam and he killed me in less than 1s with cassidy with a crazy flick, i decided to watch the replay and saw the spin, not even the kill cam showed the spins
you can't draw in capture point though. In any other mode i'd agree, but the other team doesnt deserve the win any more than the cheater team. Just get the game over with.
Okay, so - spinbotting is only visible to other players. The cheater can control their camera normally but for other players they are spinning. And yes, that is indeed for making people miss their head as other cheaters will find hard to calculate (read "hit) their head which is what they usually lock onto (essentially giving them an advantage over other cheaters as well as giving more survivability against normal players)
Spinning cass was hilarious. I laughed at 3rd person view so hard :'DD Funnily enough, you can achieve the same spinning effect by putting the pen on your drawing tablet. I did this once accidentally and got so scared.
10:10, in CSGO you will most likely have a third person view on the model most of the times, but you can also use 1st person and you wont see any of the spinning action, even if you appear spinbotting for other players :p
If you think about it from a time efficiency perspective, I imagine the bursts of inactivity were the person changing over to a different match where they've got another 5 accounts doing the same thing. If they're smart enough to run multiple accounts then for farming purposes they stack that as high as their processing capacity / account funding can manage
@bobo6069 just wait for Microsoft to actually take over. Just bc they acquired it doesn't mean they're yet in charge. It'll take a while for us to see that.
For the spin bot, the cheater gets a fixed 3rd person view without the spinning camera however take this with a grain of salt as this is the traditional csgo spin bot so it might not be exactly the same
I seen this once in OW1, on eichenwald, we were ready to defend point one and the entire team jumped off the map so we were confused. As we got closer to their spawn we noticed they all were moving in sync with eachother, that’s when we found out it was 1 guy. He even admitted he’s just trying to derank I was shocked
I don't blame the hanzo for dying there. If I ever played a comp game against people doing this, I'd do whatever I can to slow down their derank. He was just standing there & why shouldn't he? Him shooting/dying/etc. won't change a thing. I would have never capped & made the game last until the server closed
Spawn camping these Multi Box Throwers/Cheaters is actually the worst thing you can do. It just makes their job easier. What you should do instead is dragging out the match as long as you can.
The way spinbots work, or many hacks work is that they will overwrite the packet handler in the game, overwriting the players rotation before it's sent to the server. So the client itself is still able to control the rotation with his mouse cleanly without any spin as the rotation is applied as the packet leaves the game to the server. I hope this makes sense @Jay3 :)
i had a game like the first one where all five of the enemies would move one by one out of spawn, group up, then move up one by one toward point... i ended up getting potg by knocking them all off the map at spawn with dva boost bc i was so confused and and didn't know what to do
There's absolutely no way that spinning camera is what that man sees 😂 being able to perfectly time wasd to those fast spins would be like god tier level 10:26 he probably just has a normal screen but the in game character is spinning
2:45 Hey idrk if anyone will see this, but ive noticed that sym's turrets in any replay feature (inculding the replay when u die to one) dont shoot towards u, i think they shoot to the map orgin point (0,0,0) but thats just my theory
12:30 it is nice that hideouts does play and watch streamers to ban people, however it's also only him, so whenever he goes in vacation or takes a break it gets really bad until he gets back
I dont know if its the same as OW1 but back in OW1 bronze accounts were more expensive to buy than Top500. They were quite alot more too, the people selling them were making a killing from it. I suspect though nowadays especially with the bronze 5 bug in season 1 they dont cost as much now.
for context, a spinbot (what the cass in the second half was doing) it only makes your player model look like its spinning, as well as your hitboxes spin, on the cheaters end, it just looks normal, asside from having aimbot, the spinning is on the server side, not local
I used to see this kinda stuff in valorant back in the day. People would set macros so they would move every now and again and then just walk away from their pc
This is a problem on csgo too in any ranks and some people just get into them because it is usually a 5stack and a 4 stack leaving a person with a free win
All 5 characters moving at the same time and taking similar actions; this is called multiboxing. You see this all the time in MMOs. Its a real problem in WoW as you have entire hoards of bots all grouped up in a primo farming area and just sniping all the mobs in the area. In the game I play, FFXIV ARR, its less used for playing multiple toons in content and more used for playing music in major cities. Its very common to see 6 to 8 toons all together, wearing similar clothes and playing songs using the instruments the game provides for you. On the other hand, I've also seen it used in content. Had a Tank and Healer multiboxed in a dungeon I was running. They were surprisingly good.
The ban "waves" must be pretty new, because I can recall there being a stream from Flats (iirc) where a match got cancelled during his stream because of a reported cheater. Might have been OW1 that that happened though.
Aren't hacks like this used to basically level accounts so they don't look "brand new" and then the accounts are sold off later at whatever rank they were at? I know I've seen a few games like this in OW1, not so much in OW2.
someone else said it in the comments here but if its like spinbot in csgo hes not actually seeing what we're seeing, hes either seeing normally from first person or he sees in third person and has a free moving camera. the spinning would be so other cheaters cant aimbot his head and i'd assume in this game its so the cheat can see the entire map at once and can snap to any target on the map because the max field of view is probably not 360 its usually 180
Flats also spectated a game like this. There was also a player on the cheating team named LemonSatyr, but the other four people had different names... Wonder if it's the same guy.
I played once against a widow that on her screen she was just shooting a wall, not even at our direction, but somehow she was killing everyone on my team....
One of my streamer i have watch, he played 10 years csgo , he and his teammates said that that spin cheater when it played is normal in screen. But the replay it kinda weird, spin like a bot
