I GOT RIPPED OFF $20,000 BY A CELEBRITY (Animated) 

I see you’ve taken measures to stop your fans from starting witch hunts, kudos to you.

I honestly just wanna see the animation now

I'm just glad you addressed the issue, I understand people wanting to help and all that but you kept the identities secret for a reason and fans should respect that. I sincerely hope this never happens to you again, contracts can indeed be a scary thing when you aren't entirely certain what you're getting into. This video is a good warning for starting artists, and I also hope your experience serves as a cautionary tale for them. Stay safe, and thank you again for even posting a comment on the video that was being suspected to clarify that it wasn't them who pulled this nasty move.

I dont want anyone starting a witch hunt either, i was only curious about viewing the animation buttt its better if we leave it be since dens other fans will likely attack the animation

Peter Aguilar tell that to everyone who attacked Jinkx Monsoon

shgurr who is susan??!?!?!??!!

Shgurr hello!

_ARKARKRKARKARKRKKARK_

Susan can screw herself

shgurr Hiii Love your vids shgurr

itsAlexClark do you what it is

itsAlexClark I wish I was going to vidcon ;-;

Love your videos, you two should make a revenge plan at vidcon

lol

itsAlexClark Just Don’t Bring Your Sister love U 😘

GeneMations she could've gotten sued that's why No hate to her though

@@j.4553 no probs nice opinion though

Love your vids

@@meganlong2835 thanks

GeneMations is like to know who this “celebrity” is because let’s be honest, nobody likes a thief. If you cheat and scam people, you have nobody to blame but yourself if they call you out and expose the truth. It’s like everyone is afraid to stick up for themselves.

Do you know which celeb she is talking bout?

Juba Cola no but on Twitter she said it wasn’t jinkx!

@@matthewnicola5524 I know it wasnt Jinkx lol, I'm just curious

Then why am I here

GTHB what do u mean? ._.

Ami Yamato omg!!!! Its you!!!

third reply :DDDD

Ami! 8D hii!

Hi ami big fan of your

Ami Yamato I love your animating style how do you do it ?

Obviously, Den is/was a fan. Or she used a craft by 5 minute crafts to just make the pencil cool.

I mean.. they could have easily done this by adding a "if you do not deliver in time: penalty 20k$" line in the readable fineprint.. which is what i expected to happen

ForumcoldiArchon, Yeah that’d suck.

Ya and I wanna see the video she did

so fcn me

yes

To this very day

Yes

IT'S DANNY DOODLES! GIVE THIS MAN ANOTHER SUBSCRIBER!

Aye is it just me who recognized this amazing person?

Enchanted_ di nah m8

Yes it can

Danny Doodles a

IS THAT WHY THIS VIDEO KEEPS GETTING RECOMMENDED WHEN I LOOK FOR THE MUSIC VIDEO?

Midnight Koi I know this comment is old but that’s because people THOUGHT it was her so they attacked her

Yeah, I figured as much. I just really like the song, and this video was always the first recommended. I never could figure out why. I figured just cuz 'animation'.

Love the rogerina another queen fan

I'm also curious if the finished animation was a frame-by-frame animation. It seems you use tweens fairly regularly with puppet rigs. But that is only my impression from this video

Trash Animations IKRRR

Trash Animations ikrrrrrrrrrr

Trash Animations don't judge animation bruh

Trash Animations IKR!!

DOOD FRIGGIN' YES

Imagine susan was taylor

John Dominic Lozarito *cough woman

@@planttrees9458 No lol she's The Man 😂😂

@@horanghae2579 I mean... No she simply isn't. Has Taylor ever put out a animated mv or worked in a show..?

Woah woah isnt it weird that she didnt take action if youre observant towards other collaboration videos if they dont put them on their description or any of their credit they will say on the comments "thanks for the collaboration" or similar to this

Dread, the Mad Smith I wish I had a burrito. Who knows they both might happen

I wish I was a tile

Guys, guess what? I got a burrito! Dreams do come true!

And I have my tile! :D

2,500

the closet? under the bed? in the drawers?

In my ex’s grave

Asiboe I'm seeing you everywhere your like Justin y

no I'm not like justin y, I'm like myself

Umm 1like = 1burrito much?

YOU STOLE MY IDEA :c

🌯 👍

One 🌯 one like >:( you have just one

You have 669 I was gonna like rmthis but I was like.... Do I really wanna mess that up for them😂

I legit thought your username was BurritoNugget

John Not J0nathan xd

Hello army

BlossomsNightcore 11 armyyyyy

i like because of your pfp everyone sees you as a army lmao

(dying whale noises) I FEEL YOUR PAIN

Sameeeee

We need to know

She mentioned that she drew an actress on her instagram. So lets find that star and look for an animation of it :D

Chicken Girl! Aj hold on, Let me get my detective outfit

well she did specifically say it was a show so.. but it is possible she switched that too

Or The Office, Pam?

Leprychaun No Jenna Fisher did not do that

huh

David Goldstein She can't. She can get sued back to her. Because of conctract.

ZenHorakti A breach of contract wouldn't allow them to counter-sue

ZenHorakti She would be claiming that they were in breach, that her accepting "exposure" was on the premise that the publicity would generate enough business to offset the below-minimum-wage base price, and that by not adequately publicizing her as the artist, she received zero benefit rather than roughly... well, in 2014 she would have been out 200+hrs @ $8/hr - $200 ≈ $1400+. If they haven't provided at least that value in publicity then they are either afoul of NY state labor laws or in breach themselves. And they can't sue her for breach unless she's not allowed to publicize her having done the work (which runs counter to the "exposure"-as-payment elements) or she makes public claims about this that didn't actually happen. From the level of interaction they clearly knew how much time she was putting in, and per this she did tell them up front when she was trying to negotiate the deadline. As long as she's not directly asking for a share of the proceeds, and claims are based on inadequate value of the "exposure" she received relative to minimum wage for the work done, she might have a case. If she didn't need money to pay for court fees and a lawyer to argue the case, she could in theory be asking for more valuable "exposure".

The questions for the court would be (1) does minimum wage apply when the contract does not specify an hourly wage, and (2) how is the value of "exposure" to be measured for that purpose? For the first question, it should be noted that when authors paid strictly in royalties do promotion for their books, the IRS considers the time they spend promoting as "employment" rather than "freelance", and considers a certain amount per hour as "income earned from work" instead of "royalties", and taxes that amount at a higher rate. Then again, the IRS doesn't require filing a 1099 for contractors paid less than $500 in a given calendar year, and also hasn't set any precedents on the taxability of "exposure" or other personal services of subjective value. Since what Den was paid initially was below the threshold for IRS and NYS DoT&F awareness, she might not want to be the one to bring this sort of thing to their attention...

true true

Her name is Rose Leslie

I think

Ok...

I am not so surr

Sure*

Me too

Same lol

Hi it’s me I’m sorry to text her she didn’t get a call and I’m going back and dad just told him hi hi

lol

Wow

CypherDen lol

Lol

MEEEHEHEHEHEHEHE :'(

oooor read the contract fully and if you dont like the things that it has try to talk it for it to be better or dont do the contract intierly :3 just sayin

The lawyer isn't for after signing, mate, is for prior consult, to help making clear exactly what that contract is stating and if it's in accordance with how contracts like that are usually written. A half decent lawyer with some experience in the creative market could help her realize the contractors true intentions and help her to make a more informed decision

yeah pretty sure Matt Spicer meant before signing the contract.

she cab't if she agreed to the contract

My gawd hi Meat you're one of my fav UTubers

even tho ill never get one haha ( it hurts )

Is it wrong I’m doing everything I can to find which one it is? 😂

Tabbybebe Gurl Spill if u find ittt

All I’ve found out is it’s not cartoons and vodka

@@audreyyu5153 yea XD

its the music video “Cartoons and Vodka” by Jinkx Monsoon

....yeah...there isn't any..clues..

Satria Sutena uh try going through her earlier photos and uh look at the lkmes

hey here's an idea! *maybe it didn't ever happen and this entire video is completely made up for clickbait*

Silence hater

@@breadsticks471 that prob didnt happen so shut up hater we dont welcome you here

Altronza X5

Aannnddd........decline

BaggiBoi *twenty thousand dollars*

hi I'm a big fan Like your animations

Twenty thousand...

WOLFGANGBRO 1 n..no... two hundred dollars... for a 3 minute animation...

*NANI??*

fricking frick

*Watch your profanity.*

Daniel Sambar *Hey! No swearing on my Minecraft Christian server*

Justin Y. Bro you're everywhere...

Justin Y. Why are you everywhere.

KNOCK KNOCK RIIGHT HEEERE AAAAM BAAAAACK

I found you early

WTF

Snack Chiter well they wouldn’t actually pay her 2000 since you don’t pay someone the same amount the video makes so they would have probably paid her 500-1000

?. The animation made them well over $20k Den even said so

Snack Chiter this a christan server my man

Your

F*ck them dirty avocados!

Wow

Si es cierto! (That’s true!)

And remember, she lives in New York, sometimes the food is expensive

Jose Solis more like 5 pesos but you got the point

Yeah,that's more than a average lunch at my school and it school food isn't very good.

@@vaga7496 yeah XD

Omg I hear it now!

Only of you use 25 speed

Hegas

Just you

o hi there staxlotl

Staxlotl tbh I thought of you when I saw it

Staxlotl I get to be the 100th like on this ^^

Staxlotl yeah! It was!

Yeah they were

Glock Pharaoh frick

Is it The notebook cause I’m actually trying to find out what that animation looks like

Who is it?

when your idol want to work with you because she said that she love your work i think you get so crazy in your head that you sign too fast to think about anything i mean 1 person 3minutes of animation at 60fps in 2 weeks ? like she said you have to be a mad man to accept that even for like 1K

Thank you

@@kannonfps I unstand that's ur idol but she still should of been more safe

I just realized someone unliked this when i was watching

Fox Goodman I know right?! Imagine all that red bull ...🤤

Or tide pods

oh damn, my room could be full of games,

Or lots of push pops

The true priority.

Corsair Carl well...i suppose u could, if u don't like one of ur fingers :p

They spit on your food, always be nice to waiters

This made me remember ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tYCRcMo24C0.html

Bronzewarrior me too but idk what the video was

Linky And Navie well??

Bronzewarrior I want to watch it

yeah I want to see that video too

I doubt you'll ever know since den doesn't want to take the chance that people will try to witch-hunt said video. I know it sucks, as I'd like to see it as well, but she can't entirely trust anyone not to witch-hunt them.

I am with you on this. While I would like to know which video it is, it is not for the reason some are looking. I would simply want to avoid watching something that was for all purposes 'stolen' from CypherDen, but blindly accusing another like this 'Cartoons and Vodka' is ridiculous. Those that are witch hunting, you all are just making things worse.

People trying to find the animation is just curious

Not everyone is witch hunting you know, for example I want to see her work not talk shit against "susan".

I just wanna see the thing, not put “Susan” down, even though she really fridgen mean..

Flyingpiggles10 This girl needs to be exposed!!!

Who made that profile pic for you?

Arrayro it’s albertsstuff? But black?

@@thebeast9073 yeah

I think the movie is sticky notes YES THERE IS A SERIES/MOVIES CALLED STICKY NOTES but it could be game of thrones but it doesn't matter since BOTH have Rose Leslie in them I am Shookith

@@genee8652 what 🤯

Blank Zedi Have you found anything?

wE nEed AnWwerS

Tell uusss

She did mention binging, however, which makes me think it's a tv series, not a movie.

A J Grant I have the first name of her last name.I'm ashamed.

CMDan /CrazyMasterDan she literally can't bc of contract

CMDan /CrazyMasterDan YEA LETE GET HER SUED :D. COME ON LETS DO ITTTT.

Alex G lol ik

POTATO FOR LYFE lol

She’d get in legal trouble if she did, I wish I knew too though

omg lol

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ejWnwVWuoCo.html

Daniels kanal Considering MatPat he should because if he can dig into law and weapons, I’m sure finding the identity of an issue isn’t an issue for him

FireWolf950FTW Gaming: Yeah but he's not a professional detective or anything *watches MatPat have Batman-level skills*

Daniels kanal He’s already gotten himself on enough watchlists as it is😂

Formoka I’m sorry ...wont do it again mom

No sadly she cant cuz lawyers wont help people who have sign contracts Sooo yeahh

lmaoooooo

I'd by copics to

Unleash the flame war!

Fish

Assuming that this gets to 4 chan 2 days of not a week

..............

A week at most.

Squimer Swims she wasnt scammed, she stupidly signed a contract and the company made money off her work.

fat vape that’s literally the same thing. 🤷‍♀️

SUSAAAAAAAAN

True

I don't think you can't the beat the massive advantage of unlimited time and the internet proving that they can pinpoint your location based on a pixel on your screen, along with random luck for random reasons which is a life mechanic

Transmit yes, her fan base is full of ignorant children who need to stop posting ignorant comments. I've never really watched chypher den, but I do watch drag queens and what they do, then I noticed these stubid comments bashing jinkx monsoon and it just hurt me really bad. Jinkx is an awesome person and a really good singer at that, some people just can't read the description, and that's really frustrating, I hope she acknowledges her fans to stop commenting on jinkx's vedio.

SweetBlush yall blaming her for actions of other?

Nobody's blaming her lol. I'm merely SUGGESTING that now that her fans are hijacking another artist's video, she should probably tell them to stop and clear things up. It's very unlikely she even saw my comment anyway.

Luis Anariva YES, because of two things, 1) She obviously knows people are gonna be "witch hunting" and looking for the vedio she made and will most likely find the wrong one and start blaming it as if it was. 2) She made this vedio with full intention knowing very well this would cause drama, or maybe she didn't, but her fans are are bashing down on other people's vedios thinking it's the one and then dislike it, which may or may not harm the creator/distributer as a whole, bringing in uncalled for drama and hate in the comment section of those affected vedios.

That's what really bothers me. Especially the fact that Jinkx loves animation and is a LGBT drag queen who deserves nothing but love and support. Imagine being a hard working artist wanting to pay tribute to animation in one of your videos, and then one day a bunch of 12 year olds start accusing you of exploiting other artists. Den should REALLY speak about this and it's a bit dissapointing she didn't try to clear things up.

Are y'all fuckin serious. Witch hunting!?

@@aliezahjuarez1212 IT'S CALLED WANTING TO SEE A VIDEO ON RU-vid IS THAT SO WRONF

@@vickyarias4762 ya know what? It is too me. It fuckin sucks but if she says otherwise, then why bother getting into her business. I nearly did that, and I fuckin hate it.

@@aliezahjuarez1212 I understand it is wrong. I'm led only by a selfish sense of curiosity, not justice or morality. feel free to judge me

@@honey6158 I only judge for the right reasons. Thanks for understanding my friend.