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"I Hate Cyclists Because..." 

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They say never read the comments, but I'm making an exception here and going through the comments from angry motorists I've received over the years. I think it might be useful for cyclists to be armed with some of these answers, and for the 99% sane motorists to know what cyclists deal with from that hostile 1%.
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@worstretirementever
@worstretirementever Год назад
Some of the comments here are predictable and I think missing my point. I’m less interested in trying to convert the 1% lunatic drivers out there, than I am trying to communicate to the 99% of motorists and voters how vulnerable we are to them and what can be done about it
@DavidtheDoom
@DavidtheDoom Год назад
I think the last point is the most humane and, without maliciously adding to the polarity of the topic, anyone disagreeing is an egoistic psychopath, more or less. Least protected participant in traffic should be given right of way. Normal asterisk applies as always. Let's build a culture of curtesy. In Sweden the sentiment is piss poor when speaking with most people when talking about road cycling but in traffic more than half are decent fortunately (yielding, giving way, keeping distance, safe overtaking etc).
@nicksalt4346
@nicksalt4346 Год назад
The algorithm knows you're an angry jerk. 😂 Pure class.
@esgee3829
@esgee3829 Год назад
nothing says i'm trying to reach across the isle like pulling a middle finger out of your pants. if this genuinely your goal, this video ain't it chief.
@unconventionalideas5683
@unconventionalideas5683 Год назад
The reason this is true is because driving taps much more into dominance hierarchy circuitry than we realize, and that can bring out some terrible behaviors in the name of “enforcing hierarchy,” or “preserving (perceived) dignity,” and that is most unfortunate.
@cebruthius
@cebruthius Год назад
Even in the Netherlands, the "lycra bandit" type cyclists are insufferable. They show contempt for the wonderful infrastructure here by running red lights and crowding around casual bike riders in group formation. Until a year ago my grandmother liked to ride her bicycle to the supermarket, but no more because the high passing speeds on the narrow bike lanes made her feel unsafe.
@cokebottles6919
@cokebottles6919 Год назад
The thing I hate most about cyclists is there aren't enough of us.
@hbp2m
@hbp2m Год назад
Plus they eat my cake. It's my cake. My cake.
@utube7930
@utube7930 Год назад
underrated comment
@sandrahufsmith8948
@sandrahufsmith8948 Год назад
The Idaho stop law allows cyclists to go through a stop sign or lights if they have the right of day. Nine states follow this rule.
@l00tur
@l00tur Год назад
This might be changing with the introduction of e-bikes. I’m in the Midwest and the amount of people I would’ve never seen on the streets has exploded in the last few years. I may not agree with e-bikes, but they could become a useful tool on advocating for bicycle infrastructure. Case and point, I have a city council meeting I’m attending to discuss this very topic, I have several supporters, one of which is on the council for the expansion of bicycle infrastructure.
@wturber
@wturber Год назад
@@sandrahufsmith8948 I think Stop signs should be treated as Yield signs for cyclists. Doing so would actually make it nicer for motorists given that a cyclist is so much slower to accelerate from a stop. It also makes sense because a cyclist represents a minimal danger to others on the road compared to the typical 3000-5000 lb vehicle.
@derekh7441
@derekh7441 Год назад
I had a very angry motorist close-pass me in his pick-up at high speed. A mile or so down the road, he was in a parking lot waiting for me. As I approached he started barking at me. I rolled to a stop, pulled my dog tags out of my jersey and said, "Nine years. Army. Infantry. Iraq. The law says I'm allowed to be out here. I defended your freedom. Don't deny me mine.". He genuinely apologized. It's just too bad I had to be a veteran to get that response. We're not all combat vets but we are all human.
@stefand5034
@stefand5034 Год назад
They always bark pay-road-tax cliche assuming cyclists wearing lycras are self entitled spoiled brats who never worked or done anything in life but just taking up space from the hardcore truck driver class of America...I wear the crappiest outfit I can find on my commutes in the city of LA, some of the craziest place you can ride your bike on week days, highly not recommend riding bikes for pleaser in peak traffic unless you look like a very poor commuter who doesn't have a car to go to work
@jW-zu6rw
@jW-zu6rw Год назад
This comment is so hilariously American that it made my day. Ty
@fhowland
@fhowland Год назад
It’s. Always. A. Pickup.
@noahmills2884
@noahmills2884 Год назад
Thanks for your service. This video just shows why mountain biking is so big in the US.
@DaveCM
@DaveCM Год назад
I have a USMC kit and I do get treated differently than I do when I don't wear it.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 Год назад
Most motorists don't seem to realize that most cyclists are also motorists, so we do understand their perspective. It's they who by and large don't understand ours.
@josephcowee6388
@josephcowee6388 Год назад
I've always thought this too. And I've especially always hated the "they don't pay fuel/ road tax" argument, because it's not like that bicyclist doesn't have a job or possibly ever drive for their commute.
@brokenrecord3095
@brokenrecord3095 Год назад
@@josephcowee6388 well I don't drive, so I don't pay fuel taxes. But whenever I buy something at the store a share of that goes to pay for that obscenely large parking lot that I never use. And I've no doubt that more of my income taxes go to subsidize highways than to subsidize bike paths.
@annybodykila
@annybodykila Год назад
Well i know ive been stopped on a bike for speeding, and he told me i still must obey all traffic laws, however, if i decide to go down the road at 10 mph, im gonna get pulled over. If you cant do the speed limit, stay off the road!
@annybodykila
@annybodykila Год назад
In a car ill get stopped but not on a bike, i mean.
@miraelgato392
@miraelgato392 Год назад
@@brokenrecord3095 If you think about it, everyone pays for fuel taxes, since all products must be shipped from wherever it is produced to a store, most of the time, in a truck that uses fuel
@alchemist89blk
@alchemist89blk Год назад
That last one about the bike lane gets me. Adding a bike lane costs pennies to the dollar compared to building a road or adding a lane. For example, my city is expanding one road that is 5 miles long from one lane each way to two. It's slated to take three years and cost nearly 12 million dollars. Adding a bike lane to this was less than a hundred thousand dollars (DOT's estimate). The city council is losing their mind over the cost of adding a bike lane. Yet, by their own study, if they put in this lane, 8% of the population of our city will use it daily. That doesn't mention the other cyclists outside our city that will use it. (Currently the road is heavily trafficked by bikes.) So, 8% of the population is asking for less than 8% of the budget, and the city loses their mind. I just don't get it. Cycle lanes are cheap and easy to build. Just build them.
@ajlong404
@ajlong404 Год назад
Yes, to more bike lanes, but they must be protected and maintained. Otherwise, they are unsafe and less inviting to use.
@DanceonthePedals
@DanceonthePedals Год назад
Rename them to ‘alternative traffic lanes’. Or something? ..maybe would convince.
@russwright
@russwright Год назад
A really key point. If they are glass/gravel filled they aren't helpful. As for protected lanes- I'm starting to see more of those but it's going to take a long time in the US, sadly. That 3 ft wide lane adjacent to the line of parked cars is marginally better than riding in the car lane.
@Thezuule1
@Thezuule1 Год назад
Bike lanes are so cheap because they're usually a spray painted gutter...
@robertnobles8189
@robertnobles8189 Год назад
“Protected” lanes are harder to keep clean unless your city has a 3 foot wide street sweeper. In my experience they never get cleared of debris and leaves.
@ancientfifer
@ancientfifer Год назад
I live not far from where Magnus White was literally plowed over while riding in a designated bike lane on a training ride a couple weeks ago. A young women drifted off the road across the bike lane and into the ditch and had to do it right where he was and there were miles of roads without cyclists that she could have drifted off to her hearts content. 17 year old child with a promising future in cycling, and whatever else he chose to do with his life that is no longer, and let's not forget family and friends devastated by this loss. The family themselves is now putting out public pleas for anyone who may have seen something or witnessed this collision, and I ask myself "isn't that the job of the police?"
@asherbeal8357
@asherbeal8357 Год назад
That was so sad. Poor kid.
@appa609
@appa609 Год назад
Death penalty
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
One thing that gets me is why are our roads designed so poorly? US roads are incredibly dangerous. Around 40 THOUSAND people die on our roads every year. If anything else in our country killed that many people per year it would be banned immediately, but cars car a pass somehow? It is very possible to design roads that are safer for everyone, where the penalty for making a mistake at the wheel isn't losing your life or taking someone else's. Physical separation between motorized vehicles and pedestrians and cyclists, roads where the design speed, matches a safe speed for everyone, and make the cost of driving reflect the negative externalizes of driving a one ton metal box around everywhere. The public is starting to realize how dangerous cars are and I'm glad to be part of the urbanism movement
@hughrobinson9978
@hughrobinson9978 Год назад
What police???
@cindylou2128
@cindylou2128 Год назад
She was probably on her phone, texting or checking social media. Absolutely tragic loss...
@michaelpolakowski7301
@michaelpolakowski7301 Год назад
In my fantasy world, part of getting your driver's license is logging 10 hours of cycling on the roads you normally drive on (spandex is optional). Those might be the only 10 hours you'll ever ride, but I guarantee they'll make you a better driver.
@christophersalvador8380
@christophersalvador8380 Год назад
i like it. walk a mile in your neighbor’s shoes. be the line cook at your favorite restaurant before getting a yelp account. empathy, decency even, can be learned with a dash of perspective.
@leftylum
@leftylum Год назад
I've had the same idea
@silentqueue2344
@silentqueue2344 Год назад
Love it. Like mandatory civil service.
@wturber
@wturber Год назад
Bicycle commuting almost completely eliminated any rush hour anxiety I ever had while driving to work.
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 Год назад
So good! I've said many times the best way to make an excellent driver is put 'em on a bike as a kid. And I'm happy to say middle and high school mountain biking is really popular today. We'll have much better drivers as a result - if they ever want to drive, that is! No really. A 3 month mountain biker knows more about braking technique, cornering and traction than a driver will ever learn! Put a kid in a peloton and they're skills increase that much more!
@adamsouthard1155
@adamsouthard1155 Год назад
The four way stop is infuriating. I’m like: Don’t be nice. I am a small car! Just act like that and we’ll both get through this stop sign faster.
@kbd13-n9c
@kbd13-n9c Год назад
Yes! It’s so annoying. Follow the traffic laws and we all move faster.
@christopheroliver148
@christopheroliver148 Год назад
My annoyance is with traffic control with metal detectors. They have a hard enough time seeing my steel customs. I hate imagining what it must be like for someone with a modern bike mainly made of composites.
@OlderBudde
@OlderBudde Год назад
@@christopheroliver148 most traffic control in NA leaves a lot to be desired.. it's pretty cool how some European countries utilize radar to sense when pedestrians and cyclists are approaching an intersection.
@Littleweenaman
@Littleweenaman Год назад
as someone who actively hated cyclist and made fun of those douchebags in lycra on the road it was only until years later when I got my first roadbike did I understand what they were going thru It was a big change of mind experiencing it first hand
@Frostbiker
@Frostbiker Год назад
What *did* you hate about cyclists back then? I had to stop wearing lycra because it attracted angry drivers like shit attracts flies. When I look "casual" they treat me better, even though I'm exactly the same person doing exactly the same route.
@Littleweenaman
@Littleweenaman Год назад
@@Frostbiker I think bill burr had a good quote on his podcast something like the cyclists who dress with normal clothes are usually “good shits” who let you by that’s kinda showed me how most drivers must feel
@wisskier
@wisskier Год назад
It's why I don't get down on ebikes -- more people riding means more people who understand.
@12pentaborane
@12pentaborane Год назад
There was a study in Australia that found cyclists wearing helmets get hit 30% more often.
@rumobin
@rumobin Год назад
​​​@@12pentaboraneThe ones that go fast on their bike probably tend to wear helmets more often because they take higher risks. helmets and statistics are a fun one - during the great war the brits did a study that found helmets to be dangerous because they registered more head injuries with them. I wonder why.
@brunospasta
@brunospasta Год назад
I understand every driver that is a bit annoyed. I am mildly annoyed if I bomb down a technical downhill and then I am stuck behind a car. Thats life.
@richardrutishauser4689
@richardrutishauser4689 Год назад
Phil touched on something that I believe is very true, the people angry at cyclists are already driving angry. We (cyclists) are just a convenient target for the misplaced anger because, at least on the road, we appear to be weaker than they are or at least feel. I sure do not have any solution for this, just ride smart and safe as you can.
@simonvetter2420
@simonvetter2420 Год назад
"appear to be weaker" I agree with you but this is so beautifully ironic. Cyclists aren't the ones who need two-ton machines to haul their lazy asses around.
@kokopelli314
@kokopelli314 Год назад
People should have to pass a Psych evaluation before allowing them to operate a one ton killing machine on public roads.
@elliotwilliams7421
@elliotwilliams7421 11 месяцев назад
That's a lie. Like your told when your younger bullies are just jealous. Cyclists are a danger and a problem that needs addressed
@elliotwilliams7421
@elliotwilliams7421 11 месяцев назад
What a bizzare out of touch comment.
@elliotwilliams7421
@elliotwilliams7421 11 месяцев назад
​@@simonvetter2420yes, cyclists do need two tonne vehicles. Are you dumb?
@DannysMyNanny
@DannysMyNanny Год назад
Regarding stop signs, here in Minnesota, they just passed a law that allows all cyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs. Of course literally everyone was doing that already, but helps a lot knowing we are allowed to roll through them now
@AndroidCyclist
@AndroidCyclist Год назад
Same in Utah.
@TheWrigle
@TheWrigle Год назад
As it should be.
@logan_nosal458
@logan_nosal458 Год назад
I live in Minnesota and had someone yell at me and give me the finger for rolling through a four way when we were both going straight. I’m sure the same guy would’ve been upset if I stopped and he had to wait behind me for a little extra time. I’m just trying to keep things moving. Wish the law was more advertised and explained so drivers knew about it.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 Год назад
Also if a red light has a sensor that does not trigger on your bicycle: it is an inoperative signal. You treat it as a 4 way stop.
@logan_nosal458
@logan_nosal458 Год назад
@@sladewestern6704 I agree cyclists should have rules and I wish more cyclists followed them but it’s actually been proven that when used properly the rolling through stops actually reduces accidents. Key word is used properly meaning you can see there are no cars coming obviously blowing a stop without looking or caring is a bad idea for everyone involved
@markwatkins5416
@markwatkins5416 Год назад
I have ridden on the streets for 40+ years with no car incidents that left a mark. I ride with one thought. These cars are trying to kill me.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 Год назад
I got rear-ended by a minivan that followed me out of the travel lane one night. Fresh snow proved it. I started a counter-steering maneuver to leave the road a little too late (may have helped me avoid falling under the wheels). It is possible that they were *actually* out to get me (never proven).
@TinkleAssify
@TinkleAssify 2 месяца назад
Ye it’s like a war out there. You may get seriously injured or die.
@bryanbischof4351
@bryanbischof4351 Год назад
National park commute complaint is incredible. What a parody of a life challenge.
@Outsideville
@Outsideville Год назад
Wait until Bigfoot steps out in his way. 👣
@reflectionsdetail
@reflectionsdetail Год назад
the speed limit in a national park is 10-30mph, relax and enjoy the drive
@brianbailey5714
@brianbailey5714 Год назад
My commute goes through a playground, and I'm furious at the kids getting in my way...
@DetectiveThursday
@DetectiveThursday 2 месяца назад
The problem I have with the answer given to the national park complaint is that it feels as though it was given in bad faith. What I mean is that it was a straw man answer and any reasonable person could see it as such because it fails to address the core issue of the complaint. Substitute a road being in a national park for a rural road that happens to be popular with bicyclists and see if the answer still holds up. The complaint certainly does.
@bryanbischof4351
@bryanbischof4351 2 месяца назад
@@DetectiveThursday I mean we can trivially play this game: “I purposely choose a low speed road to experience a beautiful scenery in a relaxed environment” is open to the same criticism here. Fundamentally the argument isn’t about the straw man, it’s that desired expediency and relaxing beautiful views are at odds. Steel-manning the position that ppl wanna go fast and see nice things only arrives you at more emphasis on good road infrastructure, not abolition of cyclists on backroads
@seanwise7464
@seanwise7464 Год назад
I had a large diesel pickup intentionally “roll coal” on me last week while passing me. I was actually honored he felt I was worth burning an extra 5 bucks of fuel for.
@patriot9487
@patriot9487 10 месяцев назад
The "people" who have those modifications are some of the best examples of why voting should be a restricted privilege.
@trentonscism
@trentonscism 2 месяца назад
Diesel truck drivers and people towing boats are always ones to watch out for as a cyclist. I think it is a response based on insecurity
@YukiTsunoda7
@YukiTsunoda7 Год назад
*God Bless you Phil and thanks for being a voice for us, im treated like absolute shit on the road, literally on a regular basis being in ontario canada is so horrible people are actually evil*
@huntergibson9359
@huntergibson9359 11 месяцев назад
This is why I have moved to BC. See ya never Onterrible!
@RO8YO
@RO8YO Год назад
Love the vehicle weight vs road damage chart. I took notice when you posted it in that short recently... I'm using it in my bike advocacy work. Lots of great points in this vid. I always like your advocacy posts.
@core2zero
@core2zero Год назад
if someone complains about road damage, hand them a penny and tell them to keep the change
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
"Oh no, my bike dislocated a loose brick in the road, a construction crew would have to spend like 10 minutes pasting that back down, maybe, prolly not."
@Henrywildeberry
@Henrywildeberry Год назад
I always tell the impatient drivers the quickest way to get that 12 seconds back when safely passing a cyclist is to split their car down the middle and get rid of the two empty seats on the other side. Have your passenger sit behind you and get microphones if you want to talk to one another.
@SrFederico
@SrFederico Год назад
Talk to whom? Most cars have 1 passenger only anyway.
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
"He's out of line, but he's right."
@WegotaRoblem
@WegotaRoblem Год назад
Someone passed us outright one time, decided he was mad because we slowed him down briefly, slammed on his brakes in front of us and pulled a gun. Could've just not done any of that and saved way more time. Instead, he got really worked up, got the cops called on him, and sped off before totaling his car in a ditch trying to swerve into another group of cyclists up the road.
@viktorthevictor6240
@viktorthevictor6240 Год назад
Where do these psychos come from??
@Appreciate2704
@Appreciate2704 Год назад
Being hit by a car whilst riding has left me after 3 years and an operation still struggling with my health problems 🥴.. I was coming out of a stop light crossing the intersection when it turned green and the car behind me ran into me and left the scene .. he came back 20 mins later stating ‘ he thought he hit something ? But didn’t know what’ .. I was hugging the gutter and obeying all road laws .. I couldn’t of been more compliant.. and still he tried to create a false narrative.. and blame me .. ‘ he was fined ‘ $500 and that’s it 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴 Previously lost his licence for drunk driving .. had many traffic offences.. yet 😮..he only incurred a fine .. and I am still suffering after 3 years and … probably will never recover fully 🥺 Where is the justice? Why? Do bike riders get treated so badly ? 😢 If I had a wish it would be that all drivers take riding lessons for at least 100 hours before their licence is issued.. 🚴‍♀️💕🚴‍♀️
@cjharrer01
@cjharrer01 Год назад
Great video Phil, I have experienced many of the scenarios you mention. It's amazing the exaggeration motorists use when stating how much time the wait for cyclists. At least once per group ride we'll mention that we just cost that car 5 seconds when they zoom by honking. Keep up the messaging!
@BradyLikesBikes
@BradyLikesBikes Год назад
This video should be standard for drivers ed. Speaking of, it would be great if it was standardized across the country. Some states basically only require you to have a pulse to get a driver’s license.
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
And when the cost of driving is so artificially low, of course people do it, and that includes people who shouldn't be driving. The cost per gallon of gas in Europe is about $9-$10/gallon (adjusting for currency conversion and volume conversion) and that prevents some people from driving because driving is an unsafe activity. The cost in most US places is like $4-$6/gallon. Also there are really high registration fee's in Europe for cars because they kill people. See City Nerd's video on this for more if you want: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tbEuaCCV-zg.html
@kitchencarvings4621
@kitchencarvings4621 Год назад
We just got the safety stop here in Colorado and I just know people are watching me and saying "see, those bikers flaunt the laws, they don't stop at stop signs". You are right, stopping at each stop sign is draining, especially where there is one on every block. The safety stop is so nice I really enjoy riding in town now. The second comment you highlighted equally applies to motorists. They run stop signs, don't obey speed limits, and don't stop for pedestrians or signal.
@taylorlayton4508
@taylorlayton4508 Год назад
i appreciated this section (6:08). I'll be honest, it's not all safety - I do run the lights or stops sometimes cause I'm in a rush commuting, but only if there is no one around. Totally agree with the 4 way stop problem - so often drivers wave me on when i'm trying to slow down for them. I also liked his callout that there are some bad cyclists. i gave a little beep at a guy who blasted through a red light doing a wheelie today, blocking traffic in both directions. As a fellow cyclist, it bothers me to see flagrant law flouting. But yeah, in general, cars are way worse. They break rules just as much, if not more and can kill you when they do it.
@michaelb1761
@michaelb1761 Год назад
They allow rolling stops for cyclists in Idaho as well. It was proposed in California but never even made it out of committee to get voted on. Of course, I still do it and nearly got hit by a semi once whose driver ran a stop sign. Of course, he honked his horn and was screaming at me.
@joelv4495
@joelv4495 Год назад
Ya, it was eye opening when I got a power meter... When I accelerate from a stop with vehicles behind I'm often hitting 400w for 5-10 seconds (basically a micro sprint effort).
@kitchencarvings4621
@kitchencarvings4621 Год назад
@@joelv4495 Yeah, when you have to do it every 100 yards, it adds up. It's true that if you make it easier to cycle then more people will cycle. I used to hate riding in town because of all the stops, and I obey the rules strictly just like when I'm driving my car. Now I like to go there and ride. I live way out in the country so I don't see a lot of people and riding in town is now fun and I get to see other human beings out and about. But before I avoided town or limited my time there when on the bike. The answer is that people just need to slow down and be patient and not melt down because they were delayed a few seconds. But for some reason, when people get into that metal and glass box. Other people's needs go out the window and it becomes acceptable to risk someone's life to save 10 or 20 seconds. Maybe riding in traffic should be part of the requirements to get a driver's license?
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
"Cyclists break the speed limit too" fucking how? How tf are my legs able to propel me 55 mph in a 35 mph? I genuinely don't get how someone types that with a straight face, or rather a frowny face.
@sakomeow
@sakomeow Год назад
I hate cyclists because most of them are faster than me, and many of their bikes are nicer.
@60lbsofcrazy
@60lbsofcrazy Год назад
Thank you for spreading advocacy! I have so many stories like these. I commute to work and have a total of 2 blocks between bike lanes on the way and somehow still had cars passing dangerously and screaming at me to "get on the f**king sidewalk!" And a couple weeks ago a woman driving the other direction (aka completely unimpacted by us being there) decided she needed to scream at a group of us on a ride.... She was apparently in a hurry to get to a parking spot to smoke because we came across her again on the return of the ride 40 minutes later.
@goosewithagibus
@goosewithagibus Год назад
It's absolutely mindblowing to me that people get yelled at for being in the bike lane. My very first experience as a kid of cycling out of my neighborhood onto busier streets, we (three of us) were all yelled at TWICE in 5 minutes for being "IN THE FUCKING ROAD". We were in the bike lane.
@emilioc700
@emilioc700 Год назад
Retail businesses that try to stop cycling infrastructure on their streets always end up with more business when its completed. Funny how a person is far more likely to notice that hair salon / real estate agent / donut shop / shoe store / antique shop, etc.. when they are on a bike and not hurtling by in their cars at 50mph.
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
That one car parking space in front of that shop is totally gonna bring in like hundreds of people, and not hundreds of people walking/cycling in front of your store. Walking and cycling infrastructure benefits everyone
@froggy0162
@froggy0162 Год назад
Maybe they’re different in the US, but here in Australia traffic lights have sensors embedded in the bitumen to sense the presence of a car. And they often don’t pick up a bike, especially a carbon fibre one… So I have to run those red lights if it’s just me because otherwise I sit there until a car comes along to trip the sensor for me!
@joelv4495
@joelv4495 Год назад
Yup, we have those too in the USA.
@christopheroliver148
@christopheroliver148 Год назад
@@joelv4495 Yup. Even setting a steel bike down sideways on the pavement doesn't necessarily trip the sensor.
@impaledface7694
@impaledface7694 Год назад
Even happens with a motorcycle since they are mostly aluminum. On the bicycle if I know the traffic is low for cars I just hit the pedestrian crossing button.
@ThomasPublicThuene
@ThomasPublicThuene Год назад
About offending traffic laws as a cyclists: If I make a mistake I am dead. If the car driver makes a mistake I am still dead.
@wildmano1965
@wildmano1965 Год назад
Exacty...Some of these drivers are actually FULL BLOWN Sociopaths. The world is full of them.
@davidh1187
@davidh1187 Год назад
Those who whine about cyclists or get angry about cyclists fail to realise that they are actually in the minority (overall that is, perhaps not in their own social circles though....) I find it interesting that they assume that they speak for 'everyone' - a common theme in the messages you showed, and a means of justifying their opinions!
@wk633
@wk633 Год назад
We all have stories, but the one closest for me goes back to when I had a commute that started with three blocks on a narrow 25mph street. At the end of the three blocks was a stop sign at a T intersection and a real bike lane. But for those three blocks, there wasn't room to 'share' and not risk getting doored. So although I'm not Phil, I can manage 25mph for three blocks. So I'd wait for a big gap in car traffic, and then sprint those three blocks. One morning a car comes flying past me, having to illegally cross the center line because this is a narrow residential street, going WELL over 25 mph to get past me, and of course by the time the do, the three blocks is up and they have to hit the brakes and pull back into my lane RIGHT in front of me, nearly taking out my front wheel. I yelled something loud, and the driver stuck her head out the window and yelled "it's ok sweetie, I'll patch you up at the hospital" (hospital was 1/2 mile away). So, a health care worker of some kind, excusing the risk to my life and limb because she'll "patch me up".
@michaelb1761
@michaelb1761 Год назад
I have to cross a short narrow bridge over a creek on my ride to work. It is amazing how car drivers can't slow down for literally 3 seconds until I get off the bridge and onto the shoulder again. Also, I'm typically going 35 mph in a 35 mph zone when I'm going over that bridge due to the small downhill and my desire to go as fast as possible and spend as little time in the road as possible.
@paulmcknight4137
@paulmcknight4137 Год назад
Hilarious. She thought she could pass you and wasn't prepared to overcome your 25mph sprint! "Sweetie? Patch you up?" She was impressed. Nice work!
@renegadeflyer2
@renegadeflyer2 Год назад
I drive threw red lights, because my bike doesn't have enough steel to make the the lights change.
@noisepuppet
@noisepuppet Год назад
A puzzling thought process: 1. "I'm annoyed by traffic delays." 2. "Everyone should drive cars." Do they not see the connection between traffic volume and congestion? 😂
@thecitizen49
@thecitizen49 Год назад
I'm 73 year old man who doesn't own a car or a TV because I believe that the car and the TV were invented to separate me from my humanity. So I ride my bicycle and take the bus even though it takes 10 times longer to get anywhere because I think its worth it for my salvation.
@DetectiveThursday
@DetectiveThursday 2 месяца назад
And I’m a middle aged dude who for work purposes needs to travel from job site to job site with equipment in my work vehicle. I can’t lug all my equipment on a bike or public transport and I can’t afford to take 10 times longer to get from place to place, and neither can my clients and employers whom I have duties to respectively. What I have a problem with is people that believe themselves superior because they have the choice to commute by bike feeling that it’s always an option and a superior option for whatever reason for everyone (I'm not saying you are that particularly). I don’t go out of my way to hate on cyclists usually but I tend to hear from a lot of cyclists and urban planner types how I’m a threat to the planet because I drive a motor vehicle, and really that’s the kind of elitist behavior a lot of drivers react to.
@Moradude99
@Moradude99 Год назад
It’s weird because when I drive my car I literally get stuck behind a group of cyclist at most a couple of times a year, this also includes 20 years of being a truck driver. People are just dicks.
@norgtube
@norgtube Год назад
Angry Advocacy Phil is my favorite phil. Doing the lord's work my dude.
@colocounty4
@colocounty4 Год назад
"You're taking the scenic route. So enjoy the scene of my butt for a couple seconds until it's safe to pass me". 😂😂😅 17:46
@traversecitysufferclub
@traversecitysufferclub Год назад
Love you, Phil! Thanks for speaking up for us 🖤
@CodyEwok
@CodyEwok Год назад
CYCLESTS SUCK THEY ARE SO HORRIBLE. THEY MAKE ME SICK. THEY ARE ENJOYING THEMSELVES AND THAT MAKES ME SO ANGRY. OTHER PEOPLES LIVES EFFECT ME BECAUSE I'M ME. GET A REAL HOBBY LIKE YELLING AT STRANGERS LIKE ME, IT'S PRODUCTIVE. YARG! Jkjkjkjkjkj lol rubber side down my friends Phug the haters! stay aware on the roads and ride! FIXIE FOR LIFE! Love bikes Love Life!!!
@seylomayivi
@seylomayivi Год назад
Thanks for making this video :-).
@MrPerezthomyenBici
@MrPerezthomyenBici Год назад
Thanks for all info. I'll keep riding in my Lycra. yes my 250lbs. 😉 be safe everyone
@richardmulligan2540
@richardmulligan2540 Год назад
Same here😊
@ajlong404
@ajlong404 Год назад
Terrific video, Phil! You pretty much stated everything I've been saying for years! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 Год назад
One thing to add: Drivers have no RIGHT to drive. Driving is a PRIVILEGE! Riding and walking? Yup, we have the RIGHT to walk and ride on the roads and streets. Drivers fail this most basic of facts every single time.
@David-nx2vm
@David-nx2vm Год назад
I’m 67, live in a very large, non-bike friendly city in Texas, and ride a mountain bike for fitness. Very few bike lanes and the ones we have are always trashed. I’m retired military/law enforcement. I ride on sidewalks whenever I can - you have to create physical distance from 2-ton motor vehicles. Sorry not sorry - I have grandkids I want to see grow up. I have been seen by law enforcement literally thousands of times and none have ever said anything to me. I wear brightly colored clothing, have flashing strobes front/rear/helmet, slow down when overtaking someone, ring a bell, get off onto the grass if I can. At intersections, driveways, etc., I always assume the motorist is at best distracted/indifferent and does not see me. Right of way is not something you can take - it has to be yielded to you. Forget the law, I’m talking practicality and physics. There are jerk cyclists out there, but I have encountered way more jerk motorists including diesel pickup drivers “rolling coal” as they pass me, people throwing water bottles and other trash, etc., and I’m not even in the street!
@Jhawk_2k
@Jhawk_2k Год назад
Sidewalks are great for this type of riding. It gets tricky when you're a guy like Phil going 25mph, but your points are well taken
@David-nx2vm
@David-nx2vm Год назад
@@Jhawk_2k right! I’m embarrassed to say my average speed in a typical ride is 12mph. I could never hang with roadies…
@jaybobd
@jaybobd Год назад
Great video. I think the root of it for those that hate cyclists (and you're being generous saying it's only 1% of drivers) is the belief that we simply don't belong on the road at all, so any inconvenience is too much. As for helmets, they did a study where drivers actually gave cyclists more space if they weren't wearing a helmet. I don't understand the psychology behind it, but it's true (I still wear a helmet all the time).
@shieldgenerator7
@shieldgenerator7 Год назад
in all the crashes ive had, not once did a helmet actually help me. i still wear it tho, i carry it like a badge of honor whenever i get to my destination
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
What a way to support American "Freedom" by telling people that they cannot use their preferred mode of transport or recreation because you are inconvenienced by 3 seconds. How American of those drivers.
@hughrobinson9978
@hughrobinson9978 Год назад
Good that you keep wearing your helmet - mine saved my life! Cars and concrete are harder than bone and flesh - keep as safe as you can out there, Jaybold!
@happydappyman
@happydappyman Год назад
Im a cyclist and I hate (some) cyclists too. That being said, I'm also a driver and i hate drivers much more. An annoying cyclist is.. annoying. A danger to themselves mostly, and an occasional minor danger to others. An annoying driver is much more common and much more dangerous. It's to the point now where I'm angry every time i drive. Whoever is giving these moron motorists a license has committed a crime against humanity imo. P.S. the media machine is full of b.s. when it comes to anti cyclist, pro-car propaganda; but you listen to them about trump? Think about it man.
@bruceleroy1143
@bruceleroy1143 Год назад
I ride in the burbs. If it’s under 15 miles round trip. I ride. When I do get buzzed or get an angry driver. I just take a look at the driver Anand point to my chin and the lack of a double chin. I ride to stay healthy. I will say most people are pretty nice and give you room. The four way stop issue will always be one. But id rather take a timid driver waving me on than an angry person blowing a stop sign to beat me in my 35 lb commuter bike.
@markallen242
@markallen242 Год назад
I'm pretty sure the comment about the 9 mile road through a national park is referring to Picture Rocks Rd. In Tucson. So many of the drivers on that road are super hostile towards cyclists, and use the park road as a highway shortcut to get to town. If you are in such a rush to get to the city that you need to cut through a national park, maybe you should just move to the city and cut out that long commute.
@UraniumMilk
@UraniumMilk Год назад
Fact is people are territorial apes, and are under some kind of modal bias that whatever transport method they're using at the moment (truck/bicycle/scooter/walking etc) is the most entitled to the roads. The practical solution is to find some.option where the mode mixing is minimal, like a velodrome, mountain bike trail, riding in the wee hours.of the morning when no one is awake etc. At this point with all the terrifying experiences I've had I'm about to just use an indoor trainer and be done with outdoor cycling altogether.
@ToomanyFrancis
@ToomanyFrancis Год назад
Just days ago a motorist passed me and my partner illegally on a 2 lane double yellow street and almost caused a collision because of a vehicle turning into the lane they were illegally passing us in. Of course we kept up with them at every single red light and eventually passed them as they turned into the Dairy Queen drive through. We stopped at the CVS across the street, did our shopping, and then once again met up with them as they were leaving the DQ drive through. There was not a line of people at the walk up window, only a line of cars in the drive through that extended onto the street. If we would have been going to that DQ we would have probably been home before they left the drive through. I don't think this person was aggravated by us, they didn't open their window and scream at us, but I also don't think they recognized the needless danger they put everybody else on the road in by trying to pass us. I personally am more concerned with these people that I am of the people that do get aggravated.
@jeremyhatt7208
@jeremyhatt7208 Год назад
Drivers on the internet, for some reason assume, cyclists never drive, and could never understand their 'issues'. I've been driving 30 years... virtually all motorists grievances are just temper tantrums that would get them a long time-out in kindergarten.
@wowshiii4519
@wowshiii4519 Год назад
I use to get mad at cyclists until I started biking myself. Even though I bike only a once a week for transport it still feels ridiculous at times when there's only a sharrow and Im expected to share the car lane. I now try very hard to yield to cyclists because its not fun to be passed by a guy in a truck that gives you barley any room.
@jimbo2112
@jimbo2112 Год назад
All learner drivers should be made to learn all of Phil's comments and understand why they make sense...
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Год назад
Lets just say one political party in this country has made it ok to be an aggressive ahole and feel good about it. Thanks Donnie!
@gentrelane
@gentrelane Год назад
The #1 cause of motorists hating cyclists is them knowing they're too out of shape and lazy to do it and being ashamed of it deep down
@MrJohnnyTN
@MrJohnnyTN Год назад
To the city. managers.. if you make the bike lane.. would you clean it please ?
@mottohorn
@mottohorn Год назад
Had a driving instructor - yes an instructor in the passenger seat with his student driving - in the in Pasadena area roll the window down and holler at me asking me why I wasn’t riding on a bike street. If you know Pasadena at all, there are many "bike streets" called Rose Ways which have erected signs and painted chevrons on the lanes with a bike symbol and Mountain which goes to and from the famous Rose Bowl ride is one of these. I asked why he wasn’t instructing his student to not follow a cyclist so close or give 3 feet of space when passing which is the law in California. He did not like that. I also asked if he’d like to turn around and find the signage saying that this is in fact a "bike street" so his student could be informed of proper transportation solutions in bike friendly cities. He did not like that either. He proceeded to explain his GoPro was running and would submit it to the police to show I was running stop signs - a bad example for his student. I have yet to hear from the police. 😂
@GB-ez6ge
@GB-ez6ge 7 месяцев назад
Gas tax only covers about 50% of road building and maintenance.
@guitardog7414
@guitardog7414 Год назад
My favorite cycling moment was cruising into a construction zone where car lanes merged from two lanes to one. I stayed in the bike line going slow cuz I don't trust them drivers. Harley guy passed me in bike lane just to hit a car nosing out of the LBS parking lot. Looked hilarious. Careful out there. Thanks for the advice on uninsured motorist coverage.
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
Please tell me you gave them an "I told you so" kinda look, lmao
@hughrobinson9978
@hughrobinson9978 Год назад
You might feel good about slowing up drivers, but then some of them take it out on the next cyclist they see - I was nearly killed because of this1
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
@@hughrobinson9978 If there's enough space, of course I let cars pass and let them go about their day. There are some times where I'm cruising along and come up to a line of parked cars, to which I would make sure I am clear to slide over into the travel lane and then move back after passing the parked cars.
@guitardog7414
@guitardog7414 Год назад
@@hughrobinson9978 some crazed driver was upset because they were having problems with other cyclists and ran you over or what?
@guitardog7414
@guitardog7414 Год назад
@@ambiarock590 I was laughing at the Harley on it side and a guy that was having problems picking it up to tell him anything.
@kitchencarvings4621
@kitchencarvings4621 Год назад
Around here it's "bikers don't have to pay for license plates and use the roads for free". My retort is always that I pay property taxes and registration on my truck but when I'm riding my bike, I'm not doing damage to the roads the way all you farmers do with your big diesel trucks, farm equipment, and trucks loaded with 20 thousand pounds of potatoes. Plus we're not dropping metal parts all over the road. I've probably spent well over $2,000 on tires and tire repairs from all the crap that is on the roads from old farm trucks and equipment, screws, bolts, wire, pieces of the fenders and frames, screwdrivers, wrenches and all manner of debris.
@daveoutdoors4949
@daveoutdoors4949 Год назад
In my state we are not required to stop at stop signs. We treat stop signs like yield signs and stop lights like stop signs.
@and2244rew
@and2244rew Год назад
These are the same people that complain about walking across a large parking lot. Irony totally lost on them.
@neilmdon
@neilmdon Год назад
One thing about bike lanes / infrastructure. I do NOT use them when doing hard intervals if they are crowded or busy. That would be, in the Pittsburgh dialect known as Yinzer, "being a jaggoff". Instead I do my work in the adjacent road and endure the jaggoffs calling me a jaggoff while they role coal on me.
@wanderingtriathlete3013
@wanderingtriathlete3013 Год назад
My favourite comment is the ‘riding single file’ . In the UK the Highway Code states that cyclists should ride two abreast (where safe to do so), as it is quicker for a car to pass than a group of riders strung out in single file. But you still get things thrown at you for doing so. I’ve given up riding completely. Trained as triathlete for 10 years (amateur), and got fed up of the abuse and the anxiety of going out on the roads in the UK. Drivers are impatient and the road conditions are terrible. And I believe it got worse after covid, peoples tolerance for others has got less and less, so now I stick to running and hiking. The only people that hate me now are the dog walkers, but they aren’t threatening me with 2 tons of steel.😂
@wannabetowasabe
@wannabetowasabe Год назад
I've been asked why I don't use a bike trail that is parallel to the road I'm riding on. That is because bike riders are in the minority on bike trails. They are full of walkers, some who walk 4 abreast and won't move to let a bicycle go buy. There are people with strollers, people on roller skates and people with earbuds who can't hear you approach. It's dangerous to ride a bike on a "bike trail." In addition the "bike trail" is often up and down with hills as they follow the grade of the terrain, whereas the parallel road is at a steady grade, which is better for training.
@robertdavenport6705
@robertdavenport6705 Год назад
I ride with the installed conviction that every motorist is a drunken , homicidal/suicidal bike hating psychopath. This is of course not true. What I am doing is riding with as much awareness as I am capable of of ALL the other motorists , cyclists , pedestrians out there . I have been (purposely) almost clipped when it was just me and the car and no other traffic. I have been hit , cursed , swung at by someone leaning out an open window, had a beer bottle thrown at me and I could go on. I break the road rules when it's simply best to get my ass out of there as fast as possible. I am appalled though at the number of cyclists that endanger themselves with the ear buds in or looking at their cell or going thru designated crossings as if the white stripes indicate there is a force field protecting them. And as a reformed alcoholic I can attest to the fact that impaired drivers are everywhere at all hours of the day and night and they will eventually bust a red light or worse. Pay attention , be aware , forgive ,but be ready for , the innocent but endangering things you or others can do. And bike lanes do open up the roads for motorists. Take care out there. Great video Phil.
@dorseykindler9544
@dorseykindler9544 Год назад
Great comment!
@stephenalivero4068
@stephenalivero4068 Год назад
Equestrian, pedestrian, bicycle, motorist. Rights to roadway.
@roeland_st
@roeland_st Год назад
These are so American problems. In Belgium I never hart a problem like this
@cchanc3
@cchanc3 Год назад
forget quadzilla for just a minute, nice porn stache. as for baseball, I used to be amused watching the 60 year old manager walk to the mound in his pajamas.
@ItsJustaMeNow
@ItsJustaMeNow 6 месяцев назад
Look, I just don't understand why in a narrow lane with parked cars on the right, some of you feel the need to weave in and out so I can't easily pass you by. I can't just wait behind you going under the limit because there's a bunch of cars behind me, and then I'll be an asshole. I can't switch lanes because there's traffic on the left, and so you've created an inconvenient situation that's there's no reason for. Why is it not the norm to move over and let cars pass? We're just plain going faster, and overtaking is something that happens with motor vehicles all the time.
@skchalk
@skchalk Год назад
Great and informative video, Phil. During the Tour De Big bear, my group rolled up on the accident right when they were loading the kid in the ambulance. Had no idea it was a hit and run, just crazy. Hope the kid is ok.
@billjameson1254
@billjameson1254 Год назад
Yo hunter biden laptop though is fucked up if you look into it.
@nononsense2688
@nononsense2688 Год назад
I use to be a slightly angry motorist before i started cycling. Not that bad that i would endanger anyone, but i got mad. More about the homeless in my area who are really careless about riding on the skinny shoulder. But i put down 200+ miles a week now on these roads and when i drive i give every single person bike or not, the time i need to safely pass. If its a cyclist on a nice bike i dont mind looking at the frame/components for a second either haha. And give extra visible thank yous to truck drivers who wait to pass.
@paulnam4488
@paulnam4488 Год назад
😊😅
@daveanolik8837
@daveanolik8837 Год назад
I like the hierarchy of vulnerability: a toddler crawling is clearly on one side of the spectrum, I’m thinking maybe a garbage truck or Hummer is on the other side. Tangentially, I’ve played hopscotch for countless miles on rural roads with postal carriers pulling up to mailboxes in the past. No conflicts, usually two people just smiling and waving at each other. FWIW, I do use both a garmin radar and cool little Rene herse bar-plug mirror, makes me feel a tiny bit safer.
@ambiarock590
@ambiarock590 Год назад
That hierarchy also applies to convenience. A pedestrian trying to cross a street could be waiting for several minutes if cars don't let them cross, but if everyone just stopped to let them through everyone would spend like 50 seconds collectively.
@Edmond347
@Edmond347 Год назад
I'm an avid cyclist and was nearly killed by a distracted driver in 2018. Spent three days in a medically induced coma. I miraculously lived and recovered to be riding again. With that preface, I actually also dislike groups of cyclist bigger than maybe five, even as a cyclist. I live in San Diego, and once in a while I run into "swarms" of cyclist, probably from the North County. I'm talking more than 50 cyclists. It's beyond annoying. They paralyze traffic, and create unsafe conditions for solo riders. I'd also be pissed if I got stuck behind a group that large with no way of passing them as a driver. I don't understand the point of riding in groups of that size.
@Jhawk_2k
@Jhawk_2k Год назад
Large groups are fine if they aren't swarming traffic. On more rural roads it's usually fine, but it definitely gets tricky when you start to deal with lights
@Edmond347
@Edmond347 Год назад
@@Jhawk_2k Not sure how you can have a large group of cyclist not "swarming" traffic, whatever that means. They block and paralyze traffic even on multi-lane roads like they do on 101 in San Diego. It's also a nightmare for other solo or small group cyclists as well who either get stuck behind the large group, or have to risk being killed by going around them. Someone please explain to me the logic of riding in a peloton on a weekend amateur ride.
@samuelhartinpasco2553
@samuelhartinpasco2553 Год назад
Someone has probably mentioned this but there are several states in which you are legally as a biker allowed to treat a stop sign as a yield sign -in Washington where I am it’s WA SB 6208. Despite this it is a pretty normal occurrence here to get yelled at by someone behind you for going through an empty stop without stopping. Ignorance on laws which give cyclists more rights is definitely not a helpful thing.
@MaineJulia
@MaineJulia Год назад
I believe that is the case in France too.
@DennisChesnut
@DennisChesnut Год назад
The 4-way stop sign is a real thing. These are nice people doing a nice thing by trying to let me go and yet it totally destroys my rhythm. If they wave me through I still have to stop and wait my turn because I can’t trust the car. Not sure of the solution - tell people not to be nice? Just take your damn right of way (very nice) people!
@froggy0162
@froggy0162 Год назад
4 way stop intersections freaked me out when I first went to the US. A very very weird idea! Seems like it’s just a game of chicken!
@schmoab
@schmoab Год назад
I live in an area that is basically all 4-way stops, one after the other for miles. Driver behavior is mostly ok, but they can be overly courteous. The whole chicken game is exhausting and I just wish the city would finish building a dedicated path to my neighborhood. At least the construction methods have come a long way in 10 years. An adjoining community has small sidewalks and no bike lines, while we have bike lanes and wide paths everywhere.
@froggy0162
@froggy0162 Год назад
@@schmoab why don’t you just use roundabouts like normal people…?
@wk633
@wk633 Год назад
I stop and put my foot down as a signal I'm not going until it's my turn. Often as not a cyclist behind me will just blow on through.
@michaelb1761
@michaelb1761 Год назад
@@froggy0162 They put roundabouts in on one road I used to take to work. It was a major residential street with only 2-way stops for the side streets. Now instead of riding a nice wide shoulder I have to get into traffic with the cars to go through the roundabouts. Paid for with money from a cycling safety fund.
@debs_wheels
@debs_wheels Год назад
Bless you for fighting the good fight. After years of having things thrown at me, insults and finally getting hit by a car, I gave up road cycling. I let the terrorists win and I’m sad about it.
@jonathanzappala
@jonathanzappala Год назад
I know bike legal told you this, but my State Farm insurance agent told me, that he would like for such coverage to exist (he is also a rider) but uninsured motorist coverage does not cover you if you get hit and run or hit by an uninsured driver on a bike, only in your vehicle.
@JuniorBloxHD
@JuniorBloxHD Год назад
these are good points. like really good
@payastikotekar6531
@payastikotekar6531 Год назад
Thank you Phil for patiently breaking down these very common arguments against cyclists. Also loved how you placed that helmet image right on your head :)
@justinofboulder
@justinofboulder 23 часа назад
The same people who yell at me for disturbing their walk on the bike path, are the same people who honk at me for riding my bike on the road....These days I mostly ride gravel and deal with the occasional aggressive rancher (but mostly friendly country drivers).
@db_cooper3941
@db_cooper3941 Год назад
Pedestrians don’t pay for sidewalks. Let’s pave sidewalks and add more vehicle lanes. Only dorks walk.
@neilmouneimne5451
@neilmouneimne5451 Год назад
The argument that drivers would treat cyclists with respect if only we followed the rules of the road is patently ridiculous.
@SR-fm1ft
@SR-fm1ft Год назад
Cycling is bad for the roads, bad for the environment and causes traffic. Said no sane person in history.
@agie170hss2
@agie170hss2 Год назад
@Phil Gaimon: Phil, one thing I'd like to see you promote -- when riding on a tight twisty road, a quick "beep beep" by the car driver while they are still a ways back goes a LONG ways to help a rider "knowing" there is a car coming from behind. As you know (better than most of us), when you are riding at a good speed, there is a lot of wind noise. It's happened many times to me that I don't know anyone is coming from behind until I see a front bumper next to me (and sometimes it's a UPS or Fed-Ex truck!). A road you are familiar with (Santa Rosa Creek, which you had the KOM on) is an example of this -- I have frequently been "surprised" by 10 or15 vehicles coming up behind me during a ride up that road, and NONE, EVER, tap the horn to announce they are coming up from behind. And I believe your estimate of people staring at their phones is far too low. The very common one I see is drivers coming up to a red-light or stop-sign intersection where they might be turning right, and they are staring down at their phone long before they are even close to being stopped.
@gavanconroy8453
@gavanconroy8453 Год назад
Buy a varia. It’s been a game changer for my riding at least.
@Draxel
@Draxel Год назад
@@gavanconroy8453 +1 recommendation from me as well - never felt more safe in traffic after getting the radar.
@philstrn
@philstrn Год назад
Thank you for this video. You basically highlight all of my thoughts on cyclists trying to survive in traffic (this really shouldn't be the word used in this context, but unfortunatelly it has to be). Even though I'm a cyclist myself, I sometimes catch myself being angry at other cyclists when driving, but I keep that anger inside the car, and make sure to pass them safely - the way I'd want to be passed. I don't entirely aggree with you on running red lights, I'll only do it if I'm turning right, but I understand your reasoning. Here in Europe we just don't have too many giant intersections where I'd need to race across to dodge the motorists so I can't really relate to that. Anyway, thank you for all of your content! You got me into doing hard climbs on my bike, and these more "phylosophical" videos are great too!
@mikehylton4950
@mikehylton4950 Год назад
I was hit by a car backing out of their driveway while I was riding close to the edge. I’m sure if I had been out closer to the middle of the road they would’ve seen me, or at the very least I would’ve been able maneuver around them better. Thankfully I wasn’t I hurt to seriously an my bike wasn’t ruined. Still an unnecessary accident.
@SethMarcell
@SethMarcell Год назад
I LOVE THIS VIDEO. thank you so much.
@TheMidwestAtheist
@TheMidwestAtheist Год назад
11:04 Something I learned recently to be a myth in this country is that gas and vehicle taxes are the primary sources of funding for road construction. Thank you for alluding to this. The reality is the gas tax in this country is dismally small compared to other countries. At the national level, the tax was $0.19 per gallon in 2018. But compare that to European countries where the gas tax is typically at least $1.74 per gallon. Now perhaps those countries don't have local gas taxes. I don't know. The USA does. So, let's then look at the most expensive state: Pennsylvania. The tax there this year of 2023 is $0.61 per gallon. So people of that state are paying around $0.80 per gallon. That's still not even half of most European countries! The reality, then, is us bicyclists may actually be paying more than our "fair share" on road work given the little damage we do to those roads. (A caveat is that we, same as car drivers, buy goods that are shipped by big rigs that do massive amounts of damage to the roads. So, at the end of the day, it's probably pretty close to even.)
@ThomasFowler-s7l
@ThomasFowler-s7l Год назад
The only thing I would have liked to add was some discussion of the Idaho stop and how most motorist that was cyclists to "follow the laws" don't actually know the law as well as they think they do.
@ErikBongers
@ErikBongers 4 дня назад
Fundamentally it's a culture issue, a mentality issue. I'm from Belgium and we also have these roads through nature parks and forests. Smaller scale of course. Often these roads have a really narrow bike lane. Barely a person's width. Just a white paint line separating the bikes from the cars. But hey, at least there's a bike lane! But even in that case, if there's no oncoming traffic, most of the cars move to the left lane to give a cyclist some extra space, recognizing that the bike lane is too narrow! It's just a different etiquette. It's not that we're better people, but it's ingrained in our culture. A decade or 2 ago, bike paths where becoming more popular here and being build everywhere and some conservative voices had an issue with that, but this faded fairly quickly. This will take a longer time in a car-centric culture.
@joecardon7077
@joecardon7077 Год назад
When I’m riding up Utah mountains safely on the shoulder, drivers often get mad because they have to give me a little space. I always think I have worked so hard to be 18 miles up this climb. You are having to move your hand a few millimeters to give me a little space. So who “Deserves” to be on that road the most? The guy who has put a crazy amount of effort to be there or the person who has done next to no effort to be there? The amount of anger motorists feel based off of how “inconvenienced” they have been by safe cyclists has always shocked me.
@rascal1234
@rascal1234 Год назад
Kind of funny people are complaining about cyclists on roads. Cycling existed longer than cars.
@MiCoopRS
@MiCoopRS Год назад
LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT.... I feel the same, this month for recreation and fitness, I've knocked off 900 kms.. or 560 miles / 25 if this is a work week then there are 5 of them.. so that is, 22.4 a day.. I am 12 mins to work and back... 7.46 miles... 1 BIKE or CAR, but why if it costs me nothing but MY ENERGY and clean air for the environment... and ELECTRIC CARS... think about the environmental issues in PRODUCING them "technological beasts" ya... if you wanna ban BAD FOSSIL FULE devices... LAWN MOWERS, BLOWERS, SNOW etc etc etc... they don't have catalytic converters last time I checked... the OLNY thing that a cyclist produces is.... POOP I guess.... and maybe we should have POOP GUNS so that when every motorist does a BAD thing... he gets blasted with... POOP....
@AaronMk91
@AaronMk91 Год назад
If I could, I would be able to get to town from where I live in fifteen minutes, probably less. About as much as if I were to drive on a busy day. However I can't because there's no infrastructure or safe way to get there; I have to for example navigate two intersections one immediately after another and the highway uses for the on and off ramps. And I know at least some people here are, like the comments, almost irrationally opposed to bikes and even bike infrastructure; I've been spending a lot of time in the comments of local news posts talking about them because people are mad that downtown decided to renovate Mainstreet and they lost about a dozen parking places. But someone will notice me advocate bikes and get thrown into an absolute rage
@tvfieri4633
@tvfieri4633 Год назад
We need a gofundme for a national tv commercial / PSA.
@dhkitson1
@dhkitson1 Год назад
Good video Phil. I guess where I live we’ve got thousands of miles of logging roads(gravel). I can pretty much stay off roads and stay away from the few pricks who make road riding a nightmare
@KwadSkwad
@KwadSkwad Год назад
I started road riding in the late 90s. with the number of folks staring at their glowing rectangles instead of the road, I've found it's just much safer for me to ride gravel as well (where I see
@myfrequencies1912
@myfrequencies1912 Год назад
Despite the fact that these sort of jackasses could end my life instantly with a flick of their steering wheel.... I do always find it amusing. Something about being on a bicycle makes me feel indestructible somehow! haha
@chrisnelson5770
@chrisnelson5770 Год назад
Running stop signs ... Minnesota is one of 11 states that allows the Idaho Stop, allowing people on bikes to treat stop signs as a yield.
@btbike_24
@btbike_24 Год назад
And yet motorists are somehow not aware of it… sorry don’t want to stop my 20lb bike to explain this phenomenon and risk being tan over or shot 😢
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