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I Hated Bluegrit Before| Here's Why I Was Totally Wrong 

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In this video I plaster a room in one day. But the big thing is that I was forced into using Bluegrit.
I was totally against this product in the past but I must admit, I’m not converted. Here’s why…
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@frankiez7414
@frankiez7414 Год назад
good video Blaine, thanks for highlighting this. Thats plastering for you, such a multitudes of backgrounds and suction. If you have alot of different surfaces, thicknesses and various suction one coat would be your answer.
@inventions47
@inventions47 Год назад
Just subed , I'm a chip for 35 years now. Just used blue chip 2 days ago on a skim fail on some artex , all plaster fell off so I straight on with blue chip , 48 hours later I plastered today. First I had to identify the problem, this was an irregular crack to start off with along a ceiling collar, an cast iron gas pipe had a 4x2 wedged underneath pushing on this 1 collar down ! Had the thing capped ! But it's never straight forward to half of these over skimed atex
@1984chrisyB
@1984chrisyB 2 года назад
I normally put 1st coat really thick let it take in a bit and apply 2nd coat and it trowels up perfect, but like you said I prefer pva or sbr. And for the paint to bubble and peal u was told its because of the lead in old paints and it reacts its even happened with using pva aswell
@Fulford-lh1qn
@Fulford-lh1qn 2 года назад
I saw another comment saying that they added PVA to the blue grit, we have been doing the same for probably 15 years now and have always been able to skim the same day and never had a comeback, winter time or a high gloss paint will slow suction down otherwise it's a great product. Paul at Fulford plastering york.
@benpatfield5471
@benpatfield5471 2 года назад
Blue grits purpose is for problem backgrounds ie silk paint , smooth concrete staircases anything that doesn’t have suction that would make the plaster slide hence the grit to give you a key otherwise pva all the way for internals 👍🏻
@superjaxx99
@superjaxx99 2 года назад
Great video Blaine have you ever used the green grit that’s better than blue.
@conscientiousobjector9555
@conscientiousobjector9555 Год назад
I'm working on restoring a period property. The walls were plastered beautifully but for some reason the previous owner lined the walls with paper and then painted it. When I peeled it off (took ages) , the plaster is smooth, very cold to the touch with bits of mould on it. I'm trying to paint it without the lining paper. Do I need to skim it? use PVA or blue grit and skim it again? I'd hire a plasterer, but the property is rural and can't find one!
@alwynthomas8804
@alwynthomas8804 2 года назад
Have you tried BOND IT plasterers pre grit? It's a similar product but its sand so not as coarse as the blue grit. Its easier to cover than the blue grit.
@LongNThickWithEase
@LongNThickWithEase 2 года назад
Hi mate, I some times mix it in with the pva so the finish plasterer doesn’t slide about, especially on really smooth paint, I’m sure uve tried skimming really smooth paint and your finish is just sliding about, I find it does help, only thing is it’s no good for patching because of the grit.
@teddysuhrensghost263
@teddysuhrensghost263 2 года назад
I really don’t like blue grit at all, it absolutely eats plaster. Much prefer the bostik stuff that’s green and the bond-it yellow pregrit. Finer grit in both, use much less plaster I find. I fully agree with you saying that plasterers seem to think it solves all problems with backgrounds. It doesn’t. I’ve seen blue grit fail for a few reasons. A bad background is a bad background and needs to be sorted properly.
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot Год назад
If I have to use blue grit, I always magic mix the first coat to get over it, second coat of just finish is super thin
@nigelsmith1198
@nigelsmith1198 2 года назад
Come to Reading.! I need a plasterer as soon as.!!!
@torvaldalexander4906
@torvaldalexander4906 2 года назад
Good advice like your rendering videos. Had the same issues in the past, you think you've done belts and braces sealed with grit products but if the background is unstable you will fix that area. That's why you are a skilled plaster.
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Thank you mate. I really appreciate that!
@tvenpyksas
@tvenpyksas 2 года назад
Thank for video ….. yea same hate blue grit I use this Bostik Cementone Plasterers Stabilising Primer. What you thinking about this product? Ofc this more expensive 39£ per 10 lt but this I like ….
@ImranKhan-nf2ir
@ImranKhan-nf2ir 10 месяцев назад
Im not a plasterer or a DIY person, if you have artex ceiling, non asbestos tested, whats the best product or method to use to ensure rhe plastering doesn't fsll off the ceiling.
@nigelcann555
@nigelcann555 Год назад
Hi blaine, got a wall render, knocked off old render it was murder, the wall is uneven and red brick very pourus, how would you go about it i was thinking scud, slurry, if i do that do i have to still scratch coat thks
@richardblack6569
@richardblack6569 2 года назад
I've got a wall that's been hardwalled and I haven't got around to multifinishing it, would bluegrit be good onto the hardwall or would you use SBR?
@ImranKhan-nf2ir
@ImranKhan-nf2ir 10 месяцев назад
Your plastering looks like glass, amazing.
@jimmywaller2805
@jimmywaller2805 Год назад
Iv just started plastering my rooms and iv pregrit it and found the walls are taking the moisture out the plaster very quickly could I pva over the bondit to slow down the suction thanks
@richardjordan7029
@richardjordan7029 2 года назад
When I have had to grit, I’ve used Cementone plasterers stabilising primer, never had any problems. It is green, The grit is smaller too. I had to use blue grit for a job, it was horrible to use and like you said, you have to put it on think. Personally, I won’t use blue grit again, I’ll stick with the green grit when I need it. Good video 👍
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot 2 года назад
I’m the same mate, I’ve watered it down with pva before but on a high suction background I’ll just put a pissy pva coat on the wall prior to the green. Lovely to skim over
@bluevanmani
@bluevanmani 2 года назад
I’m a bit old school if it ain’t broke don’t fix it never really had an issue with pva. A few people have told me they’ve had a set fail with blue grit so I’m a bit wary to use it. Plus like you said Blaine got to prep it the day before that’s ok if it’s a big job. But the green grit sounds a shout
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
I’ve used this for Rendering and it’s a much easier product. Just never used it for Plastering but I’ll try it now. Thanks for the suggestion!!
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot 2 года назад
@@bluevanmani I had pva fail the other month, 2 coated the walls, next day the pva was peeling off like clingfilm. Then had to green grit the walls and wait another day. Never did figure out what went wrong
@bluevanmani
@bluevanmani 2 года назад
@@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot the only thing I would say was maybe the pva was to strong with the first coat. Like you I do two coats but the first ones quite weak so it gets into the surface rather than drying to quick and sitting on it bit like when painters do a mis coat on new plaster.
@LstResortXBL
@LstResortXBL 2 года назад
Best tip i have seen using blue-grit was from Alex Morley and that was adding a tub of neat pva to half tub of 10lt of blue grit is lot easyer to apply spreads better less clusters of grit and goes off a hell of alot quicker same day plastering on blue grit done this on my last couple of jobs works a treat 👌🏻
@brimplas1
@brimplas1 2 года назад
But pva re emulsifies! So what holds the grit onto the wall?
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Thanks for the heads up pal! I’ll give that a go 👍
@Lemon-squeezer
@Lemon-squeezer 2 года назад
It’s all well and good but your using a tub of pva to mix in the blue grit not cost effective might aswell get a decent grit like microgobetis or even wba is decent
@richardgrimbleby7853
@richardgrimbleby7853 Год назад
@@brimplas1 mabey SBR instead ,
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot Год назад
@@brimplas1 I’m pretty sure blue grit is predominantly pva itself, I’ve always added pva to it when I’ve had to use it and never had any issues
@Rivaboyz1987
@Rivaboyz1987 Год назад
The good thing with blue grit is u can plaster straight over tiles I done a few wet room bathrooms good stuff .saves pulling all the tiles off along with the render
@gb7729
@gb7729 Год назад
the trick to using these products is to pva the backround first to kill the suction, the issue is the bluegrit ia drying to fast,its the same as using masonry stabiliser on outdoor sand and cement walls before painting them to prevent paint peeling
@michaelhough896
@michaelhough896 Год назад
Can bonding coat be put on the likes of these products, blue grit / bond it ?
@hemtet5500
@hemtet5500 Год назад
Was that dodgy paint area the dreaded distemper which apparently nothing can stick to?
@carldriscoll6736
@carldriscoll6736 Год назад
Have you ever used bostik plasterers stabilising primer ?
@wurzel1873
@wurzel1873 2 месяца назад
I blue gritted today first time using it. Usually i use pva. Customer brought tubs of it... Never plastered over blue grit before. Im sceptical about the suction! Ive always used pva which I'm comfortable with never had a problem. But Customer listening to his friend saying blue grit it. Who's doing the job? Glad he's buying the materials
@bells1969
@bells1969 Год назад
Could I use this on plasterboard and then tile on it
@nathan87
@nathan87 2 года назад
Not a pro, and I've only done a couple of walls over bluegrit. But my experience was that any grit showing through the first coat didn't matter. Just use the first coat to get the surface basically flat even if the texture is a little rough. The second coat will go on like normal and cover it.
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
That’s what I found mate. Good points 👍
@si_mon_doe
@si_mon_doe Год назад
Put a couple plug in heaters and a fan and your get that stuff dry in no time I do it all the time. Dirty water in the first coat makes it pick up a lot quicker
@davidfoley8189
@davidfoley8189 2 года назад
I do like blue grit,big fan.It’s not a cure all though.Old paint and blown backing are always a true pain.
@00wei67
@00wei67 Год назад
Hi. Where & why would you use blue grit?
@En18009
@En18009 2 года назад
Hand full of bonding in first coat helps loads give it that extra bit of body only in first coat though 👍👍
@MrPistolpete1234
@MrPistolpete1234 Год назад
Really? I need something to give the multi finish I’m using lately some workability, it’s like spreading sludge
@MrChazzahc
@MrChazzahc 2 года назад
Blaine, how are you getting on with the venician plaster? Going up Northern Ireland soon to get the course under my belt, hopefully get a few jobs out of it
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
I’ll be honest, I’ve had no demand so far. I love doing it but there’s no requests
@garymuir4695
@garymuir4695 2 года назад
I’ll stick with pva any day. Blue and green grit is almost like trying to cover a small artex.
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Haha my thoughts exactly 😂
@martinjay3570
@martinjay3570 2 года назад
Yep!
@henryg224
@henryg224 2 года назад
Sbr over pva its waterbased lmao
@jordanrobinson9956
@jordanrobinson9956 2 года назад
Try the yellow bond-it pre grit its alot finer and way better to skim on 👌🏽
@stuartandrews4344
@stuartandrews4344 2 года назад
Lovely product.
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
I’ll give that a go! Cheers
@RichardDowd
@RichardDowd 2 года назад
As that old saying goes - 'a chain is only as strong as its weakest link'.
@MarcusT86
@MarcusT86 2 года назад
Another good vid buddy. So are blue grit and pregrit the same thing just different makers? Oh and hello James the chippy!
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Thank Marcus, hope you’re well matey. And yeah…it’s pretty much the same thing pal. James appreciated the response 😂
@293chopper
@293chopper 2 года назад
I don't use any other product except blue grit now. I had a few of the same concerns being a PVA a the way kinda guy, but I'm converted. You don't get any slip and as in the video, there no suction issues regardless of the back ground. Have had the same with paint a few times, but that's just 5% at best of jobs, and it always patchy. I vote for the blues all the way... 👍❎🤣🤣
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Haha fair enough. The suction control was great to be fair!
@shodan198
@shodan198 2 года назад
Do half blue grit to a whole tub of PVA the. U can do it same day
@andyb5star
@andyb5star 2 года назад
I use a mix of pva and Kirn sand it's solid and easier to go over without the mess
@paulkinsley730
@paulkinsley730 2 года назад
Me too, and far cheaper to make your own
@chrisblack9348
@chrisblack9348 2 года назад
Mix a tub of pva 50\50 with water add it into a whole tub of blue grit then can skim it in the same day plus goes a lot further so saving a lot of money
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Great tip!! Cheers matey
@leosedf
@leosedf 2 года назад
How about a ceiling with plasterboard (just put in) do you think i can blue grit and then plaster?
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot 2 года назад
Yeah you can do but it’s not needed. Better off just pva’ing it instead if it’s dusty or you need longer
@leosedf
@leosedf 2 года назад
@@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot Thank you Νίκο, i was just thinking if it has very good adhesion to put it first, maybe the grit will make it even stronger, i know it's overkill but it's on my place and i thought why not.
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot 2 года назад
@@leosedf no worries mate. Plasterboard is designed to accept plaster with no work to it, so unless the boards are really old and windswept, cut sections, or it’s dusty, then there’s no need for pva or grit. It will give you more time if you need it, but in that instance, you’re better off with extra time or an additive like that
@leosedf
@leosedf 2 года назад
@@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot Oh i didn't know that, i was talking about a brand new bare plasterboard. Thank's a lot for this info.
@brendanosullivan3664
@brendanosullivan3664 2 года назад
Hi Blaine if you have blue grit and a 5 litre of ploy bond and mixer it together say half a bucket of blue grit with the ploy bond with in 2 hours you are safe to go Blaine
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
That’s a great shout!! Cheers pal 👍
@jayvincent8288
@jayvincent8288 2 года назад
I have been using blue grit for years but have recently come across plasterers pre grit (yellow one) really good product and much cheaper 👍🏻
@stuartandrews4344
@stuartandrews4344 2 года назад
Much better product Bond It Plasterers Pregrit .
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Ohhhh I’ll give this a go. Cheers!
@lukedruggan6839
@lukedruggan6839 2 года назад
Where do you get these other products from and how much?
@stuartandrews4344
@stuartandrews4344 2 года назад
​@@lukedruggan6839 Bond It Plasterers Pregrit , builder merchants, some of the merchants you can get a cash trade account, will save a few pennies.It's also on Ebay, it's around £16 with free p&p.
@kevocos
@kevocos 2 года назад
I've seen pva fail used on reskim over sound skimcoat. That put me completely off ever using pva. Blue grit may be more hassle but its much more reliable option in my opinion
@taureanwilliams2900
@taureanwilliams2900 2 года назад
I heard this one before. Look, PVA has been around for many many years. It'll be around forever. Blue grit or pre grit as I prefer is better but if a plasterer earns £200 a day then who is going to pay someone to roller the walls etc. As a plasterer myself, it's a easy day for me but it's expensive.
@stuartandrews4344
@stuartandrews4344 2 года назад
@@taureanwilliams2900 I use SBR diluted about 4-1 instead of PVA which I have been caught out with it re-emulsifying more than once over the years.And I prefer using Bond It Plasterers Pregrit, which I consider better than Blue Grit.
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot 2 года назад
@@taureanwilliams2900 very true. If I decide to use a grit I’ll either get a labourer to do it, or it’s charged at a day within the quote. Bear in mind it’s not just rolling the walls on that day, it’s scrumming, prepping the walls, can get beads ready, putting foam floor protector etc, so hardly just turning up and rolling the walls
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Good points here lads!! Why spend more when PVA works and it’s faster??
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot
@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot 2 года назад
@@PlasteringForBeginners I often use pva, but if I’m going over a wall that’s had paper on it previously, and especially if the clients stripped the paper and washed the walls down (on a job now that this was meant to have been done by the homeowner, was done badly), then I’ll use a grit for peace of mind. I also like skimming over the grit, feels like you get a nice purchase on the wall in comparison to going over a painted surface
@benmjt
@benmjt 2 года назад
What numpty didn’t stagger the PB joints
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Ha I’m just the plasterer 😂
@benmjt
@benmjt 2 года назад
​@@PlasteringForBeginners I know you'd never do that, Blaine!
@coryovenstone4408
@coryovenstone4408 2 года назад
Can I ask what brush you use, the 1 I have just now keeps losing strands as I go. Also using the ox speed skim do you find it a lot better for flattening than just the flexi?
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
It’s a 6” Faithful brush mate - it’s a beast. You’ll love it!
@pm-bg9mu
@pm-bg9mu Год назад
I've never had a problem with blue grit It's great for skimming over artex Everyone to there own
@mattknox6443
@mattknox6443 2 года назад
Yeh me mix blue grit with pva 50 /50 goes on easier and lasts longer
@rajveersinghp344
@rajveersinghp344 Год назад
Im used it but there is no problems as you tell
@jameshawe7499
@jameshawe7499 2 года назад
I hate blue grit it’s to thick plasterers pre grit is the one I always use. It never lets me down. I try not to use pva
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Fair point! I’ll give it a go 👍
@LakelandDamproofing
@LakelandDamproofing 2 года назад
Here’s a little nugget for ya my freind Kevin Lindow invented blue grit , he is a fellow plasterer and was sick of the sand running to the bottom of the green grit which is sand pva and green dye he changed the sand to plastic 1mm grains which floated , he worked with sovereign chemicals in barrow in Furness to create this product
@brimplas1
@brimplas1 2 года назад
I used that sovereign grit many years ago fella! If it was just pva why does it not re emulsifie like pva ?
@LakelandDamproofing
@LakelandDamproofing 2 года назад
@@brimplas1 blue grit and green grit both contain pva and pva is water soluble prob all the chemicals added to keep the pattern something has to be differant
@brimplas1
@brimplas1 2 года назад
@@LakelandDamproofing yep. I see people saying to put normal pva in the grit but thats just defeating the object of the grit..
@LakelandDamproofing
@LakelandDamproofing 2 года назад
@@brimplas1 the grit is only in there for a bond and ya don’t need a lot of git stuck on the wall for finish to grip it
@LakelandDamproofing
@LakelandDamproofing 2 года назад
@@brimplas1 unless it’s a ceilinv
@AnthonySmith-cp7yc
@AnthonySmith-cp7yc 2 года назад
Rarely use blue grit tbh _ prefer bostick but generally use pva on most jobs _ good video tho
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Thanks matey. I agree about PVA by the way - so much better!
@bakeredwards
@bakeredwards Год назад
It adds a lot of cost to what is normally a dead cheap process.
@johnpemberton5089
@johnpemberton5089 2 года назад
Like the comment below said, green grit is far nicer to use.
@Frankieee-bj6nu
@Frankieee-bj6nu 2 года назад
the yellow stuff is loads better mate goes nice and isnt as thick think its called pregrit id deffently give it ago
@stuartandrews4344
@stuartandrews4344 2 года назад
Bond It Plasterers Pregrit,great product.
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
I’ll have to try these 2 - thanks guys!
@stoker1987
@stoker1987 Год назад
Who’s tacked that with the St. George’s Cross in the middle….
@jamiekirby8143
@jamiekirby8143 Год назад
Lad throw that blue grit in the skip where it belongs, if you want a grit there's only 2 options in my opinion, if ya got a big job and the the time to prep the day before it's bondit pregrit (yellow tub) grit is nice and fine and is like 120 grit sand paper so pretty much like skimming over plaster board, and it's cheap and goes further than bluegrit, second one is an amazing product from arrow (arrow bond grit) same texture as the first product but one hour drying time, skim same day, little pricey but I always have a bucket in my van, I don't bother with pva, but as you said the background had to be good cos the grit is only as good as what it's put on,
@cryptodab3351
@cryptodab3351 Год назад
Water down with pva and it’s easier to roller on
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners Год назад
👍👍
@Rizma
@Rizma 2 года назад
You would of had the same problem with pva or whatever mate if there flaking paint
@johnnybrown7644
@johnnybrown7644 2 года назад
I hate the stuff. Only use it on lead paint areas
@drm6089
@drm6089 2 года назад
Never used it never will
@kevinlawes591
@kevinlawes591 2 года назад
Only used it once myself was not an enjoyable experience!
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Haha do true!
@craig3784
@craig3784 2 года назад
You need to be more concerned about dunking a croissant in a cup of tea, 😂😂😂. Can't get in with blue grit, it actually cost me alot more time when I tried it, pva all the way. 👍🏻👍🏻
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Croissant and tea is the answer 😂😂😂
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
I agree about the PVA though ha!
@davepangolin4996
@davepangolin4996 2 года назад
All the grit products are a waste of time and money… the idea is good but a good scrape down and pva is better. If the wall is in such a poor condition then do it with undercoat or board … probably still quicker and as cost effective…
@PlasteringForBeginners
@PlasteringForBeginners 2 года назад
Very good points here pal!
@thomaselston4680
@thomaselston4680 2 года назад
Put duck 🦆 tape on the pulit off
@backcountrymon
@backcountrymon 2 года назад
Shit, I'd never use it
@Pinkpanter.plastering
@Pinkpanter.plastering Год назад
I don’t like it it’s touchy
@bowman166
@bowman166 Год назад
Its all shite stick with the PVA ! Not only extra materials but the increase in setting time and pissing blistering you get with it i only ever used it if i have to re skim on old sand lime & horse hair walls that need completely sealed up due to suction, but i find SBR better on those. And I’ve been spreading shite on walls for over 30 years! Your even getting miserable old spreaders watching videos for beginners ya never stop learning 👍
@OGDadAverage
@OGDadAverage 2 года назад
I found pink grit by Betokontakt to be alot better and more forgiving to plaster on
@shaunpmarshall
@shaunpmarshall Год назад
Can you use it under render ?
@jordannorris2203
@jordannorris2203 2 года назад
I no longer plaster everyday but when I was we only used knauf betakontact trust me try it and thanked me later
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You will NEVER learn to Plaster until you can do this.
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Необычное растение! 😱🌿
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