I HOPE these are NOT GOOD! || SSL UC1 & UF8 FIRST LOOK

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INDEX:
00:00 Intro + check
01:37 The SSL story
04:35 Unboxing the UC1
05:00 Accessories
06:24 UC-1 up close
08:51 Unboxing the UF8
09:45 its BIG
10:15 Getting excited about connector placement...
12:07 The peel
12:47 Setting up and connecting everything
14:05 Why such an expensive controller if you're going to buy hardware later?
15:27 Make smaller side desk?
16:18 UC-1 first boot
16:57 Its too late, you've got to build everything 3x
17:57 Overpriced and setting up...
21:17 Setting up, Troubleshooting and firmware updates
27:37 It works!
30:20 First try
33:34 Remove rack gear for these?
35:07 Garageband and beyond joins the chat
35:40 I know I'm buying them?
36:06 Bus compressor
38:02 ITS COMPRESSING!
39:03 This is high class!
39:31 Why are these expensive?
41:09 Different channel types
41:55 Is it going to be a controller or console review?
43:10 Mixing a full song on SSL360?
44:43 Kickflipping one of them?
44:58 Favourite nailpolish? My toptip!
45:22 It is just a fancy midi controller?
45:41 My dream mixing board?
47:11 Check for cramping?
47:20 Measurements???
48:38 Why do I need the console for a mastering studio?
49:22 Getting advice about acoustics...
49:58 500 series racks?
50:25 Ending the stream
50:38 Teasing upcoming videos
51:04 Thanks a lot!

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@kemsonfenton6689 Год назад

I bought the UF8 & UC1 for my Christmas, I have spent months deleting plug-ins, cause lets face it we all have way more than we need. These two pieces have helped me to get this done nicely. They are my go to on every project. Ive changed my studio and mix room to SSL and I have no regrets. I have used other controllers but these are the bomb.

@agondistortion Год назад

Yes less is more , always

@Lyquidmix Год назад

I have both the UC1 and UF8 and it useful in my mixing process. It’s part of my work flow, in combination with just a parametric EQ and de-easier, most of the time. Once you get used to it, you can’t do without it. The EQ on the SSL channel strip behaves like the passive EQs and needs learning curve to use perfectly. The BUS compressor and Channel strip compressor is sweet and all I use except in my mastering. ❤

@dwayneajohn2390 Год назад

@lyquidmix Why do you choose not to use it for the master mix? I'm really just curious 🤔.. thank you in advance

@Bronwyn031 Год назад

I rock dual UF8 (16 channels) and a UC1. I honestly can't work without them now. There is nothing like having actual motorized faders and physical compressor and EQ for mix down. Update: halfway through your video. You WON'T need a mouse and only occasional a keyboard to enter track names. The UF8 is a macro beast after you start setting it up. Like watching someone who knows how to use an Akai MPC, Maschine Mk3 or a Push 2 ; your workflow will actually accelerate.

@Bronwyn031 Год назад

@@wesleywild8726 I tried to post a link to an imgr photo of my setup but YT won't allow it. They fit quite nicely in my setup to be honest.

@Quimmoo 6 месяцев назад

yeah, exactly. When you first unbox your Push/Maschine/MPC/Octatrack/Digitakt/etc. it feels weird and slow, but when the muscle memory finally kick in, everything became so fast and seamless. After all, DAWs more or less are built around the UX of mixing consoles (except inserts are way easier to do). And the popularity of the UAD "virtual hardware" workflow is just another evidence that people like this UX and this workflow. SSL did amazing job with 360 software and ecosystem, and using my new SSL 12 after 2gen Focusrite 18i20 is like having a third hand really.

@devron9656 Год назад

Have the same combo and I love the workflow. I mix way more with my ears other than my eyes. And these plugins also sound awesome for me.

@014Marines Год назад

I just bought one used and saved north of $600, making my own DIY SSL console. Can’t wait :)

@klubstompers Год назад

You could get a bigger wood slab for your desk top, so you can add these where you want them, and still have room for your KBM in front.

@stupidusername38 Год назад

You don't need the hardware controllers to use the Ssl 360 software. You can use it married up to a touch screen monitor and you've got direct interaction. It's as close as you'll get to being back in the console days

@darkcharmrecords Год назад

Very good idea. Can you recommend a good touch screen monitor for this?

@stupidusername38 Год назад

@@darkcharmrecords I'm using the Acer T272HL. Iiyama also offer a decent range of touch screen monitors

@dannyblau3850 Год назад

The UF8 i have had for about 10 months and it is such a great controller. I had the consoe 1 and fader 1, i just couldnt get used to fader 1 but loved console 1 so i kept console 1 but ditched fader 1 for the UF8 and haven't looked back. Especially once it's worked into your workflow and you have the macro stuff all to your liking. I couldn't justify the UC1 since it is just for their specific plugins and while their plugins are great, that is to specific of just the two things for me to justify the cost of it. i had considered adding a second UF8 but just haven't had a need to after getting used to the banking.

@KordTaylor Год назад

"Why didnt I ask for a Duality?" 🤣 You are awesome.

@danandrews5207 Год назад

I cant wait to hear how you get on with this. SSL digital has a great reputation in the live sector, I’m sure a lot of the processing will be based on the same algos

@Joe-mz6dc Год назад

You have one of the very best music channels on youtube. You did an excellent job my friend. Much kudos to you and thank you very much for your content.

@HenningSprang Год назад

i like how you show the reality of buying new shiny gear that looked great in the demo… even *if* it will work as expected from the usage side, first you have the cabling, space and then software/firmware install and update issues before starting to enjoy it ;)

@randomcustomer2806 Год назад

Coming from large format DDA and Otari consoles, I’ve always needed faders because it’s the little rides that give a mix feel. Drop into touch, do the biz, hit read. Nuance. The mouse is a creativity straight-jacket.

@chris-rb7bm Год назад

ah thanks for the method you use: so you get a static balance on stuff and use touch on uf8 then read. I would like to add my recent amazing way to add also = click v-pot 1 button, and 'marker' for all sections of the song, now press eg. chorus 1 marker, and make sure playback goes back same place when pushing stop, select tracks put into 'write' mess with fader balance for that section and don't go into next section push stop before going into next section and repeat once balance is good use latch to finish off the section and read to stop the recording of automation, this works great too :)

@vicneve1169 Год назад

I control all my plugin parameters with the faders of the UF8. That way you can truly focus on listening ánd you have a better resolution.

@GaragebandandBeyond 5 месяцев назад

I'm building a new studio and really thinking about getting these SSL controllers.

@terrygray7465 Год назад

Got my UF8/UC1 when they were released. Love em. Mix faster and it’s a great ecosystem.

@danandrews5207 Год назад

Thanks man. Great stream

@aryeh-kunstler Год назад

U have 2 uf8's and a uc1 - I love them!

@mountainhighrecordingstudi8760 Год назад

I have a Tascam US2400 controller.. 25 faders works perfect with Reaper I have my typing keyboard under the desk on little roller rails like a drawer Like a mini version of how some pianists have a midi keyboard controller mounted

@wdavem Год назад

Those are interesting! I just wish the cost of very good controls would go down enough to really do anything big enough.

@samuel9004 Год назад

You can buy rackears for them to fit them in your desk racks.

@dubflex100 Год назад

Thinking of getting this coming from a faderport16 and controlstrip 2

@Ultimate_Wasabi Год назад

Not sure if you know this, but the default plugin has no analog emulation and is EQ curves only simulate a 9000 console - which is why it is so clean (a good thing). From what I read, the plugin evolved from the C200 console. The newer B plugin does have analog emulation.

@thwelly Год назад

Thanks very much for the presentation of the SSL UF8 I will buy it now. As you say you just buy new things when M1 Nativ is supported, I guess it is the case right?

@BitsBytesBobs Год назад

Have the UF8 and UC1, perfect combination and work great with UA's LUNA.

@helmanfrow Год назад

Put the faders in the desk and the other unit in the rack above it.

@user-tw8yh9ew9l 6 месяцев назад

what's the stand the your phone is on ? im late on this video but just got a uc1 and your videos are possibly the best for all things music and gear/software reviews

@kaisersoze9488 Год назад

After the software update you have to calibrate the ssl bus comp interesting video thanks for sharing

@redviagra Год назад

I have 2 uf8’s and the UC1 as well. Best investment of 2022 for me!

@theinternetseekers2436 Год назад

omg this is exactly what i've been dreaming about for my home, no way they'll be in my price range but damn!

@marekvoosen Год назад

A complete Mix would be cool. So it would be also a comparison to the Softube one. But it would be weird if you would preffered it over the possibilities of the Softube one. Workflow is another one. Really excited about your opinion at the end.

@a2734751 Год назад

當我有了uc1 uf8 之後softube被我拿去當 uad控制台了～🤣

@acollectionofdaves Год назад

Love my UF8 - Have a console 1 as well for the eq side like a lot of others. Couldn't work without them now. Probs will get another UF8 but perhaps SSL will release a more simple fader version as an addition to the UF8?......

@Quimmoo 6 месяцев назад

I mean, Pro Tools is an industry standard for a reason, but i won't say that UI/UX is the main reason tho. I've tried a bunch of DAWs for producing and mixing in 15 years of making music and settled with a Logic Pro, because it's so intuitive and easy to use. The thing i like about Logic is that when i work in it, i don't feel like i have a DAW to master in order to manipulate sounds, it stays out of my way 99% of the time. And if i want some advanced features it's more or less clear where to look for it. The most DAW from all DAWs i've used was FL and Ableton. Ableton is like playing a musical instrument, it will stay in a way of your creative work until you've had enough experience and technique to execute your ideas. And FL is way too complicated and all over the place in terms of the UI/UX

@joh6963 Год назад

Is it possible to get the DAW channel color on the displays?

@starluv Год назад

Cool stuff!

@jeremyjames8678 Год назад

I had issues getting my UF-8 to stay connected until one day it would not connect at all. SSL replaced it with a new one, and this one has worked fine until now suddenly the 360 button does not open the software anymore, everything else works fine.

@DS-wn4dx Год назад

Run the Fabfilter through an MP Midi controller, they work on everything

@annekedebruyn7797 Год назад

The UF8 looks interesting. I wouldn't use the UC1 much seeing how little the softube console 1 gets used (which is a lot more desk friendly.)

@StefanNitzsche Год назад

I have both and I love them. Good investment.

@Idonttakethisseriously 3 месяца назад

do the have the exact same power adapters.. i was hoping to see them

@musicxtech6680 Год назад

it is slow with updates tho. i use studio one n UF8 doesnt recognize the new "fader flip" function.

@kniferideaudio5145 Год назад

I have zero use for the UC1 cause I dislike the SSL strips (never understood why people lilke that compressor), but that fader controller is looking pretty good for me.

@superdad942 Год назад

Wow good for you for shutting down the online kooks! It's your channel .... It's not a customer service kiosk. But polite as usual and very fun to watch ! I love gear...... thanks!

@dARTfader Год назад

The cool thing about the UF8 is you can connect a max nr of 4 units to get a whooping 32 channel device. I’m sold on this setup. Now find a saw to create some space 😂

@williambrewer3150 Год назад

In my experience using it for a month, the UF8 hit all goals except workflow for large projects. It rocked: easy and quick integration, good depth and control over plugins, it was really well designed, etc. But after about 80 tracks, I just couldn't deal with mashing through the banks to find the tracks I wanted to control. I really, really wanted it to automatically snap to tracks that I selected in the DAW, but the integration wasn't there, and I eventually just went back to mousing through everything.

@chris-rb7bm Год назад

snaps to tracks in reaper using the studio one layer fine. Ironically not so in studio one...

@marijncinjee 4 месяца назад

What daw?? It works in ableton. Please also remember to put an ssl channel strip 2 On every track, otherwise it wont work

@williambrewer3150 4 месяца назад

@@marijncinjee ircc, I was transitioning from Ableton to Bitwig at the time, and I do work on Reaper as well. Could be any of those. Either way. It's been almost two years since this post; they might have updated integration since then. I had contacted SSL a few days after I got it and they said they had no plans for those kinds of updates, so I sent it back.

@hifidavid Год назад

Will the Waves SSL E2 Plugin work with this UC1 SSL controller out of box you think. Or do i need to customize the hell out of everthing.

@johndoe-cb5ck Год назад

So I'm new to doing recording and mixing on a computer. Does the uc1 only work with ssl plugins or all plugins?

@metaldemonseanknels Год назад

I believe the uf8 is giving me better mixes because I’m not mouse/keyboard mixing anymore. I feel like my mixes are more accurate because I have actual faders to play with

@augustevvi Год назад

I have the UF8 and UC1 its all I mix with anymore. I barely touch the DAW.

@therealonetherealone 11 месяцев назад

would Iove to see a review of the big six from ssl

@TheCatGoesRawrMusik Год назад

Do you get the plugins with them or are they a seperate cost

@1321977 7 месяцев назад

Hi did used 1 usb for both units Because you don’t show how you hook up both together

@henrikpetersson3463 Год назад

It's cute to read all the comments about controllers being expensive and unnecessary because they don't affect the sound. Do people really not value workflow? And do people not realise that workflow actually affects the sound? I like the sound of the UAD SSL4k much more than the Softube version. But mixing with the Console 1 is a far more pleasant experience than fiddling around with a mouse and a plugin. And it will result in a better mix in the end. I wish I could use the UAD emulation with Console 1 though. That would be the best.

@bandcontroversial Год назад

interesting video. I'm using Reason as a DAW and they emulate a SSL console in their software, including EQ and comrepssors.

@annekedebruyn7797 Год назад

Reason could really use a full channelstrip controller. Love the idea behind that DAW but it's so clunky to navigate even the console.

@bartconinckx Год назад

@@annekedebruyn7797 I guess you could configure a MIDI controller to do that. but you probably would like to resemble what's on the screen. I develop musical electronics, but the demand for such a product probably would be too low.

@DodgaOfficial Год назад

I just don't know if I could get all this sweet equipment and then have to send it back, it's like the ultimate tease.

@Harrysound Год назад

I have a uc1 and while I create more than I mix I won’t ever mix without it

@iFFOGo Год назад

These are COOL but isn't Behringer X-touch will be more Reaper compatible? Well will see what's the time will tell, cheers man ;)

@andrewsintel Год назад

Once you figure out the 360 workflow, toggle keys to control the playback, etc you will love it. UC1 is all I use and it’s great.

@djsilent01 Год назад

You need to get back the UC1 and add the new UF1..!!! It will be perfect for you...

@Rhuggins Год назад

Seems cool, but I do like my Console One. Lots of flavors, including SSL

Год назад

Hello, I particularly have a squeak inside the uc1 chassis when all the lights turn on, you hear that when you put your ear to the ssl logo part more or less, the support people told me that they emulated the problem and it is in most units and what can be corrected by a firmware update, do you have this problem?

@Whiteseastudio Год назад

Not right now, but I'll keep an ear out :-)

@laz288 Год назад

I have the UC1. They did a great job emulating the exact layout on it. I did not get the UF8 since SSL for some reason did not code it for the Eucon protocol and only the HUI. So its useless to Pro Tools users who use Eucon. Otherwise I think SSL is hitting all the marks on all the stuff they have been recently releasing.

@1969mre Год назад

Eucon is blocked from avid. Tell them to open the protocol. Just never will happen

@flipnap2112 Год назад

big fan of SSL. I mixed on their consoles for quite a few years and I love the plugins. but im 50/50 on these.I dont understand why they made the buss compressor take up half the unit. I dunno, I almost bought these but stuck with my setup. using two behringer x touch extenders (16 channels) and a midi twister to drive my plugins, and a Rocksolid audio control 2. it all fits nicely on the desk and everything works flawlessly. not trying to hate but these seem like WAAY overkill. desk space is more expensive than land in the Hamptons. I think they should've spent more time on the design and got it a little more compact

@TazzSmk Год назад

no full Reaper DAW support = no deal :P ps: UF8 is fun to use with RME interface when mapped to TotalMix, but nothing I couldn't live without

@Whiteseastudio Год назад

Everything is makeable in REAPER 😂

@terrygray7465 Год назад

There’s no official support for them, but the Reaper community has several user created options for integration. The names escape me, and you have to do some programming (normal for all things Reaper), but it’s there. I use Reaper and Studio One, where SSL provides full integration.

@bughy101 Год назад

Hello. Can you make a give a way? We need some plugins and some analog gear, but we dont have money. Keep the good work

@bertomil Год назад

Get a trackball Wytse! I really recommend it. There is Logitech MX Ergo in my studio and love it.

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Год назад

why would an apple user do that, makes no sense, there is nothing even remotely close apple mouse and trackpad

@bertomil Год назад

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl What? I am 100% Mac user and have absolutely no trouble with MX Ergo at all.

@PoolsideMitch Год назад

@@JohnSmith-pn2vl I've been an Apple Evangelist since 1984, and use an MX Ergo every single day. That and a keyboard saves me measurable time and wrist strain vs. a keyboard and regular mouse. ✅

@drampadreg1386 Год назад

If you think it will be hard on your wallet, this in CAD costs $1089 for the UFC1 and $1699 for the UFC8 for a grand total of $2788 plus 13% tax which comes to a total of $3150.44...Jesus. I would like one but it's just that money thing.I know you are going to grab this, but how long before you decide you need a second UFC8? I guess within a year.

@superdad942 Год назад

That's rmthe same price as my Zen tour Synergy core.... Quality isn't cheap!

@bopodoq3069 Год назад

Order SSL UF8 from Thomann (Germany) for under $1400 CAD or Studiocare (UK) B-stock for under $1300 CAD. They import duty free and CBSA only collects federal portion (5%) of HST. You save the PST. You pay a clearance fee to the courier but usually much, much less than the PST you save. SXPro is another one in UK.

@MusaRecordings Год назад

It suggested an add at the beginning to give people time to come in the stream and get payed for it haha… kinda like a stream starting soon

@uselessoldman7964 9 месяцев назад

with Midi 2 on the horizon it might be better waiting, or asking SSL if these are Midi 2 compatible cos its going to revolutionise the whole music industry. For that reason I am waiting before I purchase ANY new midi gear !!!

@Auldhelm Год назад

For the price of the Channel Strip controller you can get an actual analog channel strip LOL

@Auldhelm Год назад

I do like the Fader Controller though - I could see using that

@TecDruid Год назад

i just have no idea for the use of it - it just take space on my desk that i can use better. If it would be a real DSP Device insted of a plugin controller with a high res and low latency it would be a nice choice. But what to say.. just a controller..

@voyageDnB1 Год назад

Trackball & keyboard 🙂

@gilespettipher Год назад

Switch the mouse to a Trackball.

@chickenlickin3820 Год назад

I have both and they are too big for my desk space.

@IAMCORNHOLIOINEEDTP Год назад

Wow, it's really amazing how long the manufacturers have waited to release a controller that is almost identical to the Softube Console 1. It's also funny how they are now trying to make the SSL plugins, which weren't quite so convincing in the past, more accessible. "Hey, let's just convince all the analog gearheads with a controller that t suggests that you have an SSL Bus Compresso and some motor faders."

@GuyMcguy24 Год назад

Bruh…. Just got a 24 Track MCI chilling lol

@jamesjames77777 Год назад

UF8 is the answer to all plugins that don’t have autogain!

@tonytramonti5828 5 месяцев назад

This is the same machine Dennis Pennis uses

@clivesaunders5576 Год назад

those nails are killing me!

@troeteimarsch Год назад

Imagine building in a DA/AD conversion and an amp stage just to power an analog voltmeter to indicate compression level :D "How far should we go to build this?" - yes :D

@Reggi_Sample Год назад

Why would they need to do this? The plug-in indicates compression level and the two are linked

@troeteimarsch Год назад

@@Reggi_Sample and the present hardware vu meter works with what?

@alainjulot3490 4 месяца назад

I will just buy a Behringer WING .

@VERYVANITA Год назад

Can buy a whole 32 ch board that has daw control for that money.

@thrdwrld3 Год назад

why am I happy that he like them...?

@mountainhighrecordingstudi8760 Год назад

And get a Behringer X-Touch ONE as a dedicated transport plus master fader As the SSL units transport is unclear, fiddly and fussy

@ianmcgranaghan9888 Год назад

I would have bought the UF8 but there is no transport control unlike other controllers so I didn’t buy one.

@mjklein Год назад

Better to buy an entire console, IMO.

@pb3662 Год назад

Any thoughts on a controller that can give EQ and Compression but everything seems to be faders only. Looking for something with lots of knobs.

@pb3662 Год назад

This looks like a great start. Does it control other Plugins as nicely as it controls the SSL bundle? (or can I use this with my other plugin compressors etc?) Trying to figure out hardware controller - maybe between this and Softube - but really want it to work 3rd party apps (even if I have to map)

@davegraham716 Год назад

For like 1299$ new you can get the Behringer X-32 Prodcer Version ( the smallest of the 3 full size (non cheaper rack versions) Versions but still i believe it has between 8-20 (all motorized fader channels). & while it can be used as a controller the same as this, & an audio interface as well... those are in fact just bonus uses, as it's primarily used as a an amazing stand alone live mixing console (with a large touch screen.... the ability to also sync several ipads/tablets/or phones up to as well to further control it with the free app) oh its also got tons of great parametric eq/ sidechainable comps/ fx/ etc for every channel & 2bus, etc. +matrix miixer capabilities + can also be used as a multitrack recorder!!..& tons more...oh & it can do all that stand one.. without out a computer!!! honestly this by comparison is a complete & total ripoff... 3 times the price for far far far far less. You can spend a few more 100 $'s & gt one of the 2 larger X-32 versions, or for also a little more (still far less than this ssl setup would cost)you could step up to the Midas M-32's (Midas is also now owned by Behringer... & their M-32 is essentially a X-32 with slightly higher quality PreAmps & other building materials. If you really want to spend 3200$ on this ssl setup for that same ballpark you could get a brand new Behringer-Wing Mixing Console... which i havent looked to mich into but is supposedlyeverything you could ever want in a mixer/all the other things i mentioned the X-32 could do/ + numerous additional features & utilities. (Someone else in these comments also mentioned great success with the behringer xtouch & someone else the Tascam (something 2400) product as well, both probably worth looking into... don't be a suckered & buy this.. there's a lot of better ways of wasting your money.

@pb3662 Год назад

Actually - this looks to be the business. RockSolidAudio Control Strip or 4k

@sauce_aux Год назад

my favorite Nay Sayer :)

@joost3783 Год назад

Honestly I don't like it mainly because it just interfaces well with their own plugins.

@duboracle Год назад

And very wisely go D/A>A/D ? hahahaha I dont know.

@alexgregory1427 Год назад

First look?. These things have been out for well over a year. I think the case is already settled. Best you can buy for under 3 K together.

@AndreasR86 Год назад

I don't have one of these, nor have I tried it, but I have owned and been using Console 1 for 4 years now (Fader for 2 years?) A controller like this with good DAW integration is fantastic. It's not for everyone, and it is a bit of an investment, but the amount of workflow efficiency you can get out of products like this is great. All just my opinion of course.

@ezeparanoiac1462 Год назад

I got the SSL UC1 for half of a year, and i sold it because WAS A TOY! a good looking TOY.. For sure, its VERY far of the feeling you got when u move an SSL knob... About the quality of the VSTS, are magfinific !

@maxhammerum7705 Год назад

What in ears do you have?

@Whiteseastudio Год назад

They are from www.ears4u.nl

@beehype46and2 Год назад

Comment for da algorithm Streak count: 128

@ComposerMichaelDow Год назад

Built in redundancy

@jsaulkane5893 Год назад

Fiddly barrier creating...

@soundfx68 Год назад

Too many screws! 😉

@JohnSmith-pn2vl Год назад

this is all boomertech that never has or will work in a meaningful way sorry, the only thing that works is mossgrabers OSC with iPad's. luckily reaper is supported by mossgrabers, the problem is just the control of plugins, nothing compares to bitwig in that regards atm. but here, mixing could very well be enough, which is implemented very well in reaper, noting comes close to a touch fader. motorfaders are absolute trash in comparison. this is my opinion your mileage may vary