I Invented Something That Could Change Winching Forever! 

I use a soft shackle on the end of my synthetic winch line as my "hook" so I like the basic concept. However, I thought the whole point of the tree saver was to save the tree since it's wider than the thin ropes and doesn't cut into the tree. I also don't think the synthetic line will last very long with abrasions from the tree and that's a costly replacement rather than just having the $15 tree saver take the abuse.

Matt, that is a great idea, but you really need look at the pricing schedule. $495-$525 is astronomical! $200 would still be expensive but at least doable.

I’ve been waiting for you to release this after you hint it on matts off-road recovery

That is pretty nifty but sadly it doesn't replace a tree saver. Couple reasons. The tree saver is a flat strap for a reason. Its width spreads the pressure out that is against the bark thus protecting the cambia? layer. If that fragile part of the tree is damaged the tree will die. That layer is extremely fragile in spring on some trees. Even straps can still damage the fragile tissue just under the rough bark. The round rope is not only very small but it is round. The point of pressure against the tree will be very very high. Another problem will be rough tree bark causing excess wear on the rope. The rope itself is tough but the individual fibers are relatively fragile and fray pretty easy.

correct me if I'm wrong - I was told never wrap a winch line around a tree or anything else, as you'd be wearing out the winch line, That's why you use shackles and tree savers ????

A tree saver is usually 3-4" for a reason. The rope going around the tree will cause excess wear on the winch rope and still cause damage to the tree! Maybe not as bad a steel cable, but it will damage it. My winch recovery kit lives under my passenger seat. I can reach it and had it out to someone without undoing my seat belt. I have other recovery kits stowed away, but the winch kit is nothing more than a 4" tree strap held together with a soft shackle and a winch blanket. 95% of the time thats all you need. I keep other soft shackles within reach of the drivers seat, just in case..

Love it! But while I was looking at them, my wife asked "who'd pay 500 dollars for a ball gag?" So I'll hold off on ordering these until she's not home.

The spot for hooking around a tree is cute for the small trees. In the Pacific Northwest we have large trees and not sure it would fit around the trees around here. Plus isn't the tree saver part being a wider strap around the tree so you are not damaging the tree by using something thin that can dig into the tree.

Looks like a great idea, I still think it's wise to use a tree saver but it could easily be done while still using your set up.

I would still use a tree saver. The load is the same on the tree a thin line bearing all the force cause internal damage to the tree a tree saver typicly spreads that out by 2 or 3 inches of width

Great idea. The only problem is recovery points often are sharp and aren’t radiused to suit rope which will damage the end. If only that part was replaceable

So funny, this guy gets bashed on the forums but on youtube people love it. I think its pretty cool

Great idea but tree savers are wide straps that distribute stress over More Area. Your idea with tree saver is perfect

As a hammock backpacker i have to urge you to not advise people they no longer need to use a tree saver. We use tree straps any time we hang to protect the trees. We a few hundreds of pounds when the forces are calculated. A 6000 lb jeep is alot of force on a rope like that. However, this design is awesome!! Even with a tree saver it is still safer and faster! I am not in the market currently but i am 100% saving this product for when i get a winch! Good job!!

Only thing I’m concerned with is abrasion on the rope wrapping it around a tree and a tree saver. We use synthetic line on our chipper winch and after some abuse wrapping it around trees as a choker it eventually fails and needs to be retied.

Great idea hopefully one of the big winch companies contact you for an exclusive. Offering huge lump sum along with royalties.

Great design! Love everything but the price. 😇

I see a lot of comments on price with this, but as I see it if you buy a Warn winch line and tree saver, Factor 55 end and soft shackles, You're saving about $100 with this. I think you could certainly feel like you're getting less because it's just the rope with some man hours put in but assuming the quality is the same this is saving money with a product that's going to be less hassle? Cheers to Matt on this. I hope he gets that patent before it gets ripped off by everybody because this is going to be a popular way to do it.

The Tree Saver is just that. It is intended to minimize the damage to a tree. Please don’t wrap any type of winch line around one of our trees!

I think there are a lot of people thinking this is the same a hooking around a tree with a standard winch line. This line does not sinch tighter around the tree as it is not a choker. It is uses the same knot system as a soft shackle which also do not sinch tight. This line would not get any tighter around a tree then it was when you wrapped it around the tree and applied the knot lock. With this system you would eliminate tree choking and rope abrasion(as long as you lined up the rope between the tree and the winch vehicle). In fact the only difference I see between this system and a tree saver is the width. Given that most people don't want to bother with the tree saver for whatever reason(PITA, lost, buried in the back somewhere) this is still a good option and a great idea. I am not saying this should eliminate tree savers in every case but it is way different then choking a tree with a standard winch line. Good Job Matt

Some of us have spent considerable time trying to get people to use tree-savers so they do not kill the trees...and now this? Come on people, use a tree saver and save a tree!!! (you will also save a damaged and/or broken line) Sorry.

I hate to be “that” guy, but several things occur to me. First, you’re pricing yourself out of the bulk of the potential market. When the line, which is a consumable, costs almost as much as the winch itself to basically eliminate the soft shackle and the joining gear, it’s a pretty easy decision. Secondly, I am dubious of being able to patent the splicing and knotting of the line. It may or may not be a completely new way of splicing the end of a line, but that’s all it is. This idea is a good one, and I do believe it will catch on, but everyone and their brother will figure out how to tie the button knot and back splice the loops. Not to mention the Chinese,,,,,,. I hope you do well, but I think you’re facing an uphill battle.

Seen people doing basically the same here in Australia ever since dynema rope has been out.

My only issue is not using a tree saver strap. Round ropes do incredible damage to the trees bark, effectively making the tree sick. Flat straps are the only way to properly winch off a tree. Awesome line, and can't wait to get one!

"If you want to keep a secret from somebody, put it in a manual." Such as an old BoyScout Handbook, or Navy Sailors' Training Manual... I'm "Knot" busting your efforts - I think this is one of the neatest things I've seen for off-loading and towing in a long time! Best of luck with the patent and getting this out there!

Now the only thing left to do is eliminate the need to Unspool the Winch line and you'll have the simplest setup around. Years ago the Landrovers had front-mounted Capstan winches with no rope or cable. You tie off to a tree, then run the rope around the hub and start pulling. The cool thing is that, since the rope isn't spooling on top of itself, the line is always at the highest torque position.

Cool idea, but I would still use a tree saver. As just wrapping your line around the tree does not save it from getting scared, and I would be worried about long term use and what effect the trees might have on the line itself. Side note Freedom Recovery gear already exists, and I just got their synthetic winch line!

the whole point of a tree trunk protector is to save the tree from being ring-barked by the thin winch rope, while i think this winch rope is a great emergency type system, using the proper gear if you have the time to, is better for the environment. while im no tree hugger, i know that if everyone went around wrecking trees with winches, parks and wildlife would soon be closing all the tracks to allow for revegetation. id also say its pretty rare for a quality hook to be the failure point of the winch or rope, so the chance of that going flying is very slim. great idea you have, and it certainly has its place for emergency recoveries so well done there!

It seems that it would be more simple to just have a loop in the end and use an ordinary soft shackle. You could still have the loops back further but just put the shackle through them. That way you could have the loop back at the winch out of the sun.

Good idea, however every rope has a minimum radius specification. By putting your freedom line through a sharp recovery point as you have, you risk of cutting your line. A 7/8" diam. or 1" diam. shackle will not damage rope unlike a sharp recovery point. Having said that, It's still a good idea, hope it takes off. Good luck. Cheers.

You putting on the treesaver and the "pacifier" thing. Reminds me of those Infomercial things. Do you hate trying to cook? **Drops fry pan on floor**

Hey, a quick lesson on how to ring-bark a tree - use this! Whilst I think you have come up with a great way to add to safe winching; not using a tree trunk protector is a bad idea. Not only is the load concentrated on a narrow band around the tree, but your synthetic rope is also unprotected. Yes for this to ditch the hook and/or bow shackle, but please combine this idea with a tree trunk protector. Not sure what happens in the land of freedom, but if we damage tracks and trees in Australia, they close the track. Also, if you have a great tree on the exit of a well worn track that everyone uses, and the tree dies, well there goes your anchor point. Great idea, but...

So what you are saying is Newman would of survived in the first Jurassic Part?

Pinching is not the reason why metal cables break. that's was merely part of the issue. metal cable snapped due to improper use and/or improper servicing of the cable. You can easily snap synthetic and still cause a dangerous whip with the same improper use. The only difference is you don't need to lubricate the cable to ensure it is not rusting inside out and it's not as dangerous and metal cable (However it is still dangerous). With both steel and synthetic the cable needs to be periodically inspected for wear but with synthetic you have to take more concern than metal. Also how does this save trees? you went from a wide band that evenly distributes the stress back down to the winch cable width. Same as using chain or any other cable and choke the tree like before. Also now you're putting wear on your cable by wrapping it around abrasives instead of throwing a "tree saver" strap and sacrificing that instead. quicker easier faster? maybe Stronger? Where's the test for tensile strength? I'm not talking about lifting up 50% of your Jeep weight up a tree at a higher than 15%. You just shown it can do 3,000lbs. You're stating it should do 30,000lbs. The cable is capable at 30,000lbs but how about the knot? what is the point of failure where the knot can not held with friction by pinching it between the rope loop? Let's be honest. majority of people getting "stuck" are at most at 10,000lbs of resistance. If a 5,000lb vehicle is truly stuck it will be at around 15,000lbs of resistance. Depending on the brand of 3/8 " HMPE line (what your product description is on your webpage) depends on capacity but you will find around 19,000 lbs. That is far cry from the 30,000lb rating that you're claiming. Considering it is a 3/8" HMPE line you should test the knots and loop configurations to that 19,000lb spec. 19,000lb is plenty for these lightweight vehicles as long as the knot and loops do not fail under tension. I'm concerned that at 19,000 lbs the knot will slip out of the pinching loop which a shackle would not do. If your product safely passes or surpasses that 19,000lb rating at independent testers then this will be quite the upgrade. I would love to see this knot get tested at every loop and see if it can hold the capacity of that 3/8" HMPE line of 19,000lbs. Since you're getting into the winch business I would love for someone to start actually teaching the real principles of winch operations. It's more than just hooking a line up and pulling and if doesn't pull then using a 2:1. there are so many factors into winching that that. I have yet to see any channel get deep into it correctly and hit all the numbers right.

I am genuinely impressed with all the jeepers that care about protecting the trees properly...you seriously need to drop the “use it on a tree” marketing and stick with the most important feature...there is no metal involved and it is much safer. Also I agree, find another US vendor to do your manufacturing. It needs to be priced about $300.

I came off with the cash and bought the freedom line... I have used it quite a few times.. the mere weight that I carry around and simplicity of it, works! I kinda enjoy hearing "What is that?" as they point at my winch line (Freedom Line).. Thanks for making my trail life a little easier..

So this is the lesson. If you have a great idea for an invention, don't go on Shark Tank. Just come up with a really cool youtube channel, build your subscribers up to over 400K and show it to the world! Go Matt!!!!!

Lighter ATV version? I love it so fast, light,and easy. Winch n go. I just realized that it would be nice on my shop winch too. You need to put this on everything that winches. Great product and idea.

Considering it’s made in USA 🇺🇸 well worth it!

I was already to pre-order till I saw the price you wanted . come on man!

One could easily use a tree saver and your invention quit easily. No d-ring, just a tree safer and your winch rope. Just like the last part of the video.

Dang that's pretty cool. It would be really handy in Florida swamps

love your show.. but I will keep some steel in my box.. ive cut too many ropes and soft shackles on other peoples home fab'd bumpers and stuff.. you cant cut a shackle.. and even better if you get the alloy ones and not the cheap ones..

Love it Matt, only problem I see is you should pair it with a soft shackle. If the freedom line is used as a shackle point and it gets cut, person is SOL, especially if they have no other recovery gear because this is how this product is marketed. No other gear needed mentality will end up with newbies complaining. Sell it with a soft shackle And recommend that as the primary way it is to be used. Best of luck and great product will keep an eye on this.

Still need the tree “saver” dude.

Dude, admittedly I clicked on this video so I could scoff at whatever it was you invented but this is freaking awesome. I came across it while watching videos on soft shackles as I'm putting together a recovery kit for my truck. I don't have a winch otherwise I would preorder a line right now. Actually, maybe I should just order one and use the recovery rope because I could still simplify my recovery kit. This along with a few shackles so I can create a snatch block would be awesome.

You need to make these for the atv market too. I’d definitely run one on my quad. More peace of mind on those hard winch pulls

I like what you have... but I still believe in a tree protector (something padded to prevent brak and trunk damage) You have a soft sling shackle incorporated at the end of a winch line, instead of a steal hook. Which in itself is a good option for us explorer's. If we want to replace our winch line with what you have educated us with I like this. But I think you need to further your idea so all the other accessories are not redundant. I am from oz (Australia) we also use sand anchors... and other terrain devices, as we don't want to damage our environment anymore then the track we are on. (Again tree protectors) but I think you have something that is right, it gets us away from the metal that is the biggest flying risk factor in opperator safety. I like where you are going.

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It looks pretty cool. You would still need a snatch block for doubling the winch and changing direction of pull.

Need these in utv sizes also!!!!! Count me for that.

They call it a tree saver because it saves the tree. What your doing is about the same as wrapping the line around the tree and hooking it back to itself. Plus if you run a synthetic rope through an anchor point with 90 degree edges, you cut into the rope. How many times can you do that before you break the end of the rope? That rope doesn’t look cheap, hope it comes with a good warranty.

Great idea, I like it. But don't throw away those tree huggers, shackles and recovery rings. You will still need them on some occasions.

I don't have a winch on my Jeep but I got my Bleepinjeep Fan sticker today and that's all I needed. My Jeep is now complete.

I think I could tie a soft shackle at the end of a rope as well. I could see the end wearing out and causing a failure, and where as a soft shackle, hook, or clevis can be replaced you would need to replace the whole rope.

If you made what might be called an extra long double ended soft shackle you could have all the features of your new winch rope that would still replace the bag of winching accessories. It would be a 'half way house' for anyone not wanting to spend as much money and could be used with existing traditional full length cable or rope winches until they were ready to replace with a new full length BleepinJeep rope.

I will 100% buying 2 of them when finish my Jeep and putting one on my trailer

great idea now incorporate this idea into all sizes of winch lines.I need one for my 3K winch on my ATV. 5/16

Isn’t there already a few on the market like this? Bunny rope for example. I really like the idea and if I wasn’t in Canada I might consider it for my next rope. Thanks!

Well I watch a youtube video here a couple weeks ago about putting a soft shackle and a eye slice in the end of a fiber winch line. since I have been recently making my own soft shackles using the improved soft shackle method. Currently working on soft shackles made of 1/4 inch 12 strand. As I said to you Nick your old partner in Beeping Jeep a term that my father coined: there is nothing greater than an idea that's time has come

I was sold, until I realized it cost more than my winch 😬

Say “tree saver” one more time lol. I’d like to see some data on traditional tree savers vs doubled up synthetic line. The tree saver idea was born back before synthetic lines were introduced to keep people from wrapping a steel cable around a tree. I’m not sure there’s a whole lot of difference in a strap and synthetics except the overall area, but the difference is minimal at best

It doesn't justify the price.

I’ve been looking for this. Glad you are making it. I’ll be ordering one soon!

When the end wears out do you need to buy a whole new line, or can it be repaired?

I’m enjoying watching the growth of your channel. So much great info. Thank you! Good job!

Honestly I was extremely excited to order one for me and another for my brother until I saw the price. 500 for a winch rope seems craZy. I know it has what ever features but it seems silly to buy a rope that’s the same price as the winch and doesent cover the price of all the accessories it replaces

You are an amazing person. I hope you make millions on this and China doesn't steal your invention.

Is the rope actually made in America or did someone’s grandma take a crocheting needle to 70$ Chinese rope in America?

Some fisherman is dying of laughter on that you “invited” that knot:P but still a good idea! Make a mini version for hammocks!$$$

My anti-gravity drive eliminates the need for winching. Or getting stuck. I’ll be releasing the tech next week. Stay tuned.

I own a towing company and do off road recoveries with my Jeep (like a not quite as cool version of Matt) and this looks awesome! It's going to be a huge time saver and I'm definitely going to order a couple!

That would damage the winch line. I would rather damage my soft shackles then replace winch line.

pretty cool product i also like the rope over the steal cable because the steal splinters and cuts up your hand

Brother. Drop the price by $150 and I'm in.

Following the examples in this video is going to lead to damaged trees and frayed winch lines. Tree Savers exist for a reason - embodied in the title. Attaching the winch line directly to a sharp metal edge like the shackle brackets is going to fray and weaken the line. While running the soft rope line around a tree may not do as much damage as a steel cable line, it's still going to damage the bark and cambium layers, especially on a thin bark tree, and any movement is going to fray the line.

If you guys ever make a version for UTV winches I'd definitely buy one. I think this might be a bit thick for a small UTV winch but I love the idea.

That's awesome.. That would even work on tow trucks.. Cause most of them now are using synthetic lines.. Yes there are times that you need frame hooks or j hooks..

I see this being the standard on winches from here on out.

Part of the reason for a winch shackle like the Prolink is to keep the synthetic line out of the sun… protects it from UV on recessed bumpers….

Crazy idea but... what if you and Matt’s recovery worked with yankum ropes to make a yankum rope with one of these soft shackles?

No tree saver is a no go if you want to continue using trails (also in emergency use, there is one in a traditional winch bag and it will save your rope from ripping while having to recover in an emergancy ), also so many vehicles have sharp recovery locations and again this is a no go, so you still need all that stuff listed to make it work safely :/

This is 100% one of those "why did anyone ever do it any other way?" kinda ideas... GREAT job...

Great product less fail points as well!

$495+ for a winch line? You high?

once i saw soft shackles a couple years ago i kinda thought about this, great idea Matt. thats the end of extra hardware chipping off the powder coat on your expensive bumper so it can then rust.

Very cool!

Brilliant! I would pre order but I don't even have a winch yet!

If you put a single line around a tree, you should be fined for it. Tree savers exist for a reason. Thanks for slowly ruining the trails for others.

Cool Idea Matt! If I only had a winch now.... 🤔 🤣👍

I’m sold! The scrambler needs one on the 8274.

I like this for the ease of it but i don't know what everyone's saftey concerns are. Yeah definetley run a synthetic rope so you don't get hot with a metal cables but I've worked with cables in towing and a a trucker pulling a rolloff trailer. I've seen and heard lots stories of cables breaking but it's always the cable that goes flying and not the attachment on the end

$500? Really?

Wrapping that spectra line around a tree will fuck up the tree Matt. Slice right thru the bark with some tension on it. Also the rough tree bark will fuck up the spectra line. Make it all fuzzy and nasty. It'll still be strong but will look like ass

Soon, Matt won't be making videos anymore because he's GONNA BE A MILLIONAIRE! I've got one on pre-order. Barring a massive fire or life-threatening blood loss, I'm still using a tree saver, though.

Great work that looks like a million dollar idea right there. Im going to buy one when I have the money and get a winch.

Works exactly the way I hang my hammock for camping. Just on a larger scale. Going to preorder soon.

Love the concept. Just looked at purchasing and the price appears to be 3x the price of normal winch and yours is 3/8 the price comparison I made was with a 1/2. If your price drops then I might buy.

That is just Genius . Love your channel Matt

I haven't watched your Chanel in a long time you are looking old my friend🤣 thanks for the vid 👍