I Just Had The 2 Rooks vs 2 Knights Endgame 😮 

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I was thinking if you have at least 4 points ahead and both have no pawns, you're mostly gonna win (although difficult), for example queen vs rook wins, but queen vs 2 minors draws. Exception, 2 knights vs lone king draws CMIIW

What an endgame! Took 73 moves, lol. Great video as always!

I have enough difficulty with 2 rooks vs 1 knight lol. sure ik i could trade. but I don't want to :(

I had a similar imbalance in my current only GM scalp. I had 2 rooks and 4, he had the bishop pair, a knight, and 3. In our game, I gave back the rook for the knight and 1, which allowed me to get a pin which one another, then my rook blockaded his pawn, and my three pawns and king marched to victory against his light-squared bishop, while his dark-squared bishop defended his pawn.

6:11 tablebases results after each move: 1 Kd5 -M27 Rc1 M26 2 Nc5 -M26 Rh2 M25 3 Nce6 -M25 Rh5+ M24 4 Ke4 -M24 Kb7 M24 5 Nd8+ -M19 Kb6 M18 6 N8e6 -M18 Re1+ M17 7 Kf4 -M17 Rh4+ M20 8 Kf5 -M17 Rf1+ M20 9 Ke5 -M20 Rh5+ M19 10 Ke4 -M18 Ka5 M23 11 Nc6+ -M19 Ka4 M24 12 Ned4 -M20 Re1+ M21 13 Kd3 -M20 Rh3+ M21 14 Kd2 -M15 Rg1 M18 15 Ne2 -M18 Rg2 M19 16 Ncd4 -M19 Kb4 M18 (8:23 fun fact Kb4 according to the TB is the only one M18 move. Stockfish is wrong Ra3 is M19) 17 Kc2 -M10 Kc4 M9 18 Kd2 -M9 Rd3+ M8 19 Ke1 -M8 Rxd4 M7 20 Nxd4 -M7 Kxd4 M6

Waow that’s insane. It’s actually one of the first time I see this type of end game. I remember one time I had 5 pawns against a rook. But in this situation you have to be so accurate to win. Nelson stockfish 🔥😂

NM Nelson: don't worry too much about the opening Me: en passant!

king + queen + knight vs king + rook + knight + bishop are some of the most mind-boggling endgames, where tablebase uncovered a bunch of forced checkmates in over 500 moves

Very interesting endgame! I always try to capture my opponent's knights early in the game, to avoid having to be so careful not to step into the many possible forks. ESPECIALLY to avoid letting my opponent keep BOTH of his knights, because they would be able to fork almost anywhere on the board in a couple of moves.

Never seen that end game. Nice win!!

From what I remember 2 rooks vs 2 minors is a win with a few exceptions, while rook + minor vs 2 minors is a draw except in rook bishop vs 2 knights (over 200 move win when then knights are well placed, well beyond 50 moves) and rook bishop vs knight bishop (opposite colour bishops), which is a win. Magnus Carlsen won rook bishop vs knight bishop vs Francisco Vallejo Pons once.

wow this was an interesting end game. Your calculations were spot on my friend. Thanks for sharing

Really neat! Such an interesting method of win, at least it looks easier than a queen vs took.

Nelson how do you get these games? Amazing. Small tip - keep your king and rooks on opposite colors, then you can't be forked except by a queen.

Interesting. I saw an ending at a tournament where an Expert had a R+N+N vs R+N (no pawns). I remember thinking that as long as the superior side did not exchange anything, then an attack would probably win the game. That's what eventually happened.

Interesting, but if you knew how to win with rook vs knight I would have traded into that winning position. This is why I always favor two rooks vs 3 minor pieces. You have more control due to your ability to trade down into a favorable position. There are even positions where the rook is better than two minor pieces.

Most interesting imbalance I've seen is bishop + knight + knight vs rook. Pawnless. It might seem like it should be totally lost for the rook, but you can actually 'hunt' the bishop in an attempt to sack the rook for it and get knights vs king which is a draw. Makes the endgame very dynamic.

Why did'nt black checkmate rook to e1 at 2.22. Great discussion as always Nelson. Thanks🙃

I had this endgame in tournament against a player far better than me and I choked it with the rocks it was truly agonizing defeat

Never had this. Interesting to hear Fine's assessment of 2R:2 minors as a win, I'd expect there are quite a few exceptions. What I did once have, though with pawns on the board, was four minors vs two rooks. Position was not in my favor when it occurred though, and I lost a piece early and eventually my opponent won; it was a rapid game and I was already somewhat down on time so yeah. No way to analyze and I probably missed a lot.

Sole king vs 2 knights is a draw, 2 rooks vs 2 knights must be a win =D

Lomonosov table has answers for any 7 piece endgame

How about 3 rooks and queen versus 2 queens and a rook

Interesting game! I was just wondering, at 9:09 in the video, the black king "can" capture the knight, as the knight defending it is pinned. Is there any rule to prevent that? Never really seen this situation before I think. I'm guessing because white would capture your king before you can capture white's king with your rook (if capturing kings was a thing), it is illegal to do so as it would hypothetically result in an immediate loss?

Move out Ruy Lopez. This is the Two-y Lopez.

always says 3 pieces are better than a queen, but what if it dont have pair bishop?

Great game Nelson 👏👏👏 I’m an absolute beginner having just learned en passant rule 😂😂😂. But I also learnt the power of 2 rooks. Almost unstoppable

Way to go thank you so much

Gg

1:12 2 en passants

Before I watch, I assume if you trade a Knight for a Rook you can force a stalemate?

lol posted 2 minutes ago

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Great game mate. I always appreciate video like this because not only it allows you to learn more about yourself but also allow us viewers to learn some of the thought processes behind moves as well as show case position where normally we wouldn't think about (as casual chess players).

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Cool position. Without time pressure and the stress of sitting at the board, I did good.

One rook vs two bishops, I somehow pulled a win out of that

8:35 why the Knight can't move here?

I had a rook & 3 pawns vs two knights and a bishop endgame once, and won.

2 knights are pretty good, but a King can make or break them.

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Wow what a great game

3:06 Why didn't white take the rook?

can u win with 2 bishops against a rook

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