A suburban Chicago man who was among the first to journey in the Titan submersible describes his experience and what he believes happened as the saga surrounding the vessel reaches a tragic end.
Crazy how many people agreed to get bolted into a tin can to see rusted wreckage. This company was very secretive about how much that tin can was an actual tin can.
I can't wrap my head around even the owner knowingly going down to insane pressures with a sub made with questionable strength, even told it's only good for a quarter of that pressure. I wouldn't go 12,000 feet even if it was rated for 30,000. Nope.
@@mikewillett5076 I feel like billionaires in particular believe they're invincible. They are so far removed from their fellow humans they think they're an entirely separate entity and that nothing that applies to others applies to them. They are also incredibly arrogant. Nothing could possibly go wrong for THEM, until it does.
@luigidimario yup they got a weird complex that they're going to save the world because they're smarter than everyone. They're not stupid (usually) but they live in an alternate reality for sure.
@@tropicanaborgatta8335 i think is the element of fear. But they have elements we do not have. Great adventure, thrill seeking etc. I am passionate about Everest (to read about it not to go there) and there are a different kind of people. We need to respect their decissions. They made it at full capacity. They knew the risks and they paid the consequences. We do not have to judge them. God rest them in peace.
Omg this man actually said “a company as professional as OcenGate”??? I am an engineer with 27 years of experience and I will say it now. Corners were cut, materials and equipment used were NOT of the highest standards by any means, inspections and tests were few and the truth will all come out! This should NEVER have happened. There are two ways to do things. The right way and the way OceanGate did them.
Absolutely correct. Unbelievable this was somehow allowed to even take place. Surely there was some appointed Authority that would and should have prevented this insane risk-taking with unsuspecting and uninformed people's lives?
agreed. you would think billionaires would consult another professional with a simple "hey man, do you think this thing is safe??" they are constantly performing the due diligence to protect and grow their wealth, but when it comes to their life? sheeesh....
Celebrating a CEO who thought he knew more about the industry than every other industry expert. Its that type of hubris that got all 5 of them killed. He gambled with other people's lives and finally an unfortunate few had to pay the price.
@@SI29222 Catastrophic implosion was the cause. The hull was not structurally sound at that depth, and though the OceanGate Titan had made the trip safely many times before, that doesn't mean the sub itself was able to handle that level of pressure.
@@SI29222 we don't know what part of the submersible failed, but we do know that the design and use of carbon fiber in that manner would eventually fail. That's what ever expert told Rush and he proved all of them right. We also know that submersibles have been going down to the Titanic for 30 years, and this flowed design is the only one that failed.
I agree. Listening to his glowing review of the company and CEO just baffles me. When all the evidence and substance is saying that this was a money grab and a big safety red flag.
Yeah. All the trips he's taken with it he could've built a submersible suitable for diving that deep. They've been doing it for decades now and he didn't care to take note from them smh.
I’m not an engineer, never served as a submariner in the US Navy, but as much as the Titanic has always fascinated me, one look at that contraption would have made me take a hard pass on a dive on it.
Gee you'd think violating a grave sight would be enough of an incentive. But hey if you dont have a surviving family member to convince you of your illness go fo it! On some other vessel if you get that chance. Oh by the way sir or madam! Do you mind if I get a craft and dig around your families grave(s)?
Being bolted in from the outside is such a cheap-arse solution and then you've got the game controller, wiring plastic tied to the outside and laptops that could fly around if they lost control, no seating or restraints. Yup, I'm with you. I wouldn't take that thing in a puddle.
@@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 Yes, explosive bolts are a real thing. If you saw The Right Stuff, the explosive bolts blew the hatch off of Gus Grissom’s (Fred Ward played him) space capsule on splash down and it flooded and sank. When the Space Shuttle was being tested for its glide to landing, explosive bolts separated the Shuttle from atop the 747. In the 1967 Apollo 1 disaster that killed Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee, there were no explosive bolts and no way for them to get out from inside, and the fire expanded and tightened the hatch so much it could not be opened even from the outside. They’re a last ditch safety/emergency exit system. Many military jets have them to jettison the canopy or hatch so the pilot/crew can eject, and they fire first when the ejection is initiated. The seat and crew follow milliseconds later and a solid fueled rocket fires them away from the airplane. All happens in about 2 seconds. Explosive bolts would not have saved the 5 people in the Titan disaster, but would have allowed them to get out if they’d made it to the surface and not been found before their air supply was exhausted. They’d have suffocated if not found quickly because they could not open it from inside. I’m not an engineer, just a life long aerospace nerd who reads up on this stuff.
It's sad for sure that a 19 year old kid died, but it's also ironic, we regularly send off "men" of a similar age to die in wars, they just often happen to be poor.. When it's the son of a wealthy businessman they are suddenly innocent children. Again, not saying I disagree with the idea he was a innocent kid, but we as a society are pretty hypocritical and value some lives over others.
@@TransoceanicOutreach it's a myth. Ship flags serve this purpose. The Convention on the High Seas, which many countries have signed, state that in international waters, any law that applies to the country whose flag the vessel flies is governed by its flag country. Also, The UNCLOS Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), in addition to the laws of the flag country, governs international waters. Despite their role as a means of freedom and exploration, the high seas are still governed by registry and UNCLOS laws. This was clearly a well disguised exploration mission in order to bypass some laws, which Stockton Rush was a specialist in.
Much of the Ocean estate is simply not regulated, and for whatever laws made there's very little manpower to enforce it, it's almost just the wild wild west out there cuz it's just such a treacherous zone.
He made an interesting slip of the tongue when he talked of the dive he went on he said “That was an experiment (then corrected himself) an experience in itself” . I think he was right the first time. It was essentially still an experimental craft and all those passenger paid a lot of money to be guinae pigs.
Those passengers signed a waiver in black and white that said they were being used as a guinea pig on an experimental sub. They read it and they signed it and then they died.
He was trying to give us a secret message. Did you see his body language and blinks? He had all nice things to say. Blink blink. Then at the very end he was like hell no I wouldn’t go on that thing you crazy?! I’m pretty sure he’s being held captive.
"Futility" was a book published in 1898, about 14 years before the Titanic sank. The book was a fictional story about a ship like the Titanic that sank after hitting an iceberg. The name of the ship in the book was "Titan". Ironic that Rush named his submersible Titan. Almost like he was asking for lightning.
Titans were the gods who preceeded the Greek Gods and of them Oceanus ruled the sea. But you are right names have resonance. The feds are going to crack down on this type of tourism so it doesn't happen again. The US Coast Guard blew their budget for the year on this big rescue so maybe Congress will increase their budget for Y2024. A lot of people in the industry say Congress needs to increase spending on oceanic research.
@@WindTurbineSyndrome The can give em all the money in the world. The ocean will forever remain a mystery and fully unattainable, just like up above. We were put in this specific place for a reason and however this place came 2 be, the only way out is returning back 2 the ground we arose from.
@@WindTurbineSyndromeI think the feds won’t need to do much. After this, who would want to take the chance of getting killed to make the dive? The days of Titanic tourism are pretty much over.
Why would you bring your teenage child on such a risky adventure? Even if my child begged me to go I would have said no. This is even more sad when you read reports of the 19-year-old son telling a family member he was terrified and was only going to please his Titanic-obsessed father.
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The whole attitude throughout was one of chasing an adrenalin rush regardless of risk or consequences - similar to what you feel as a kid when going on a Disney theme park type ride. Totally irresponsible and totally stupid. If death traps for tourists is what some people refer to as 'research' or 'exploration', I say they need get a grip on reality.
Find the video of the father and son from Vegas that backed out last minute and that father and son replaced them. Vegas family did their research and said "oh hell no". The CEO was texting them and had even lowered the price to $150K
That stockton guy jeopardized the lives of so many people, everytime he bamboozled them into that submersible trashcan...although he might be considered a visionary to some, his lust for the Titanic and his greedy ambitions ended the lives of those poor souls, especially the 19 year old kid. RIP.
It was all about getting that money for him to make more of those death traps. It’s was out of his hands if something went wrong because they all signed a contract. Greedy.
Each and every passenger chose to take the trip. Noone forced them. They had the option to pick from every single available submarine to take down there. Them not being diligent and choosing the safest possible craft is completely on each of them. I would never have set foot in that coral reef viewing craft. Totally fine to go scoot around the great barrier reef or check out the sea floor in the Bahamas But going to the depths of the ocean without knowledge of the depths, pressures, required specifications, and all other things related is completely reckless. I don't know much about depth traveling but I do know I wouldn't descend in something without a tether, and external air supply line, external power line, remote operation capabilities in case the subs controls malfunction, tracking systems, and either hardline communication systems or at the minimum actual radio communications, and a winch for the mothership to pull the craft back from the depths. The fact that these people didn't think any of that was necessary is what got them this outcome. We get one life. You make your choices. They all made theirs.
They weren't, the company officially said they are no more, heard twice people working there, the younger stupid ones,porked in that sub while it was dry docked, and few guys had a circle jerk in it, see what the news doesn't tell ya
Yeah, and you could tell his age when he said "creative MEN." There are lots of creative women out there, and my guess is that they would be more cautious and sensible.
He made the statement that if he would have known then what he knows now he wouldn’t have gone. So he risked his life without making sure all T’s where crossed and all I’s where dotted. I would have done all the research I could and made sure everything was certified before going to the bottom of the damn ocean. Unbelievable
@@SSTillmanEsq It seems this proves that any craving for adrenalin rush-type experiences should be forced to submit to reason and that NO journeys of this kind be permitted unless that enforcement level is met in full. Any human being who respected the lives of others wouldn't have allowed them to be subjected to such insane risks. Perhaps this was part of the 'adrenalin rush' Mr Rush seems to have craved?
Another example proving that the phrase "do your own research" can actually save your life. This guy didnt do his research, but got lucky. RIP to those 5 who weren't so lucky.
@@1k20a Scientists expert In knowing the materials suitable to withstand deep sea pressures said the sub failed to meet required standard. Apparently there had been warnings. Anyone who did their own research would have given the dive a miss.
@@auralplexAt least you die instantly - not panicking in something the size of a mini-van with no way out, no way to communicate, no way for any rescue for days on end. I'll take flying any day of the week over something like this . . . - Susan Burns
It's incomprehensible that someone would avoid certification, a blatant red flag. But just as much so that passengers would take the risk when there were other competitors who followed logic and conscience and got certification. What an insane interview.
Forget certification, what about testing. Going to 400 Bar depth? You test for 800. And not just once, but at least 200 dive cycles worth, or the expected lifetime of the sub. Fail? back to drawing board. CFC may be unsuitable, but wrap enough of it arouynd a vessel and eventually it will withstand the pressure. So besides certification, a lack of thorough testing - that's even more unforgivable for an engineer.
There isnt any certification for those depths. Its a donat your own risk type scenario. No organization wants that liability of certifying these things
@@nonofyourbusiness7631 You are correct that there is no bonafide way of certifying, but using scale models one can calculate the risk of implosion, and include the degradation of the materials. This way a fair risk assessment can be made. Now we can only surmise the CFCs failed, which they probably did. But that's beside my point.
@@JoeyMartzthe phrase "a company as professional as Oceangate" said it all, didn't it? Anyone curious and slightly knowledgeable would know better, this man was just happy to be invited along. He sounds like he just wants to be able to say "I visited the Titanic" so happily puts his life in the hands of a business man. Does that sound to you like he gave this much thought? 😂
I dont know if it was horrible for them. For their loved ones yes for sure. But they probably were mesmerized by the ocean and then off 2 wherever we end up when our time hear on earth is over. Now if it was a slow death I 100% agree with you. But from all the reports were hearing it was instant.
@@MrAddidas2 you're right. I've been watching videos on it and reading about it a lot today. I've been hearing this quite a bit today. It's a comfort to know it was instant.
@@laurafloyd6554 Yeah it was instant. They would not have felt a thing and probably wouldn't have even known anything was wrong. It's a lot better than being stuck on the seabed waiting for your oxygen to run out.
He just said exactly what I've been thinking all along. People that went down in that submersible were not aware of the controversy and the warnings from experts about the safety concerns. And are not in a position to really know anything about the proper construction of a submersible to have seen any red flags themselves. So many people seem to think the four passengers knew how rickety that submersible was and just didn't care. I seriously doubt they had a clue.
Carbon fiber fatigues under compression very easily and quickly, so making Titan's hull out of carbon fiber was insanely stupid. The hull would have worked perfectly fine for a few dives (which it did), but microscopic fatigue stress fractures would eventually lead to catastrophic failure (which it did). If the Oceangate CEO had put the Titan through certifications, the inspectors would've told him this and not certified the vessel. Of course, that's exactly why Oceangate didn't want to go through the certification process.
You win for best comment. I'm a retired Nuke Safety Guy. You are absolutely correct. I had a lot of "Go-Or-No-Go" say over critical operations, for Governmental and Non Governmental Organizations going back to Sun Ship's Guppy and the Glomar Explorer. This contraption had failure written all over it. His selection of Critical Operators was abysmal. I haven't heard the words Written Procedures on any Podcast or "News Cast". Sheer Narcissism and Greed took this "Crew" down, all the way from the Bilge Mate to the Captain to the Designer.
yep. that's how they got around the regulations... They're not "tourists" on a "tourist vessel" who "pay for the trip"... therefore the trip is not a "commercial activity" and is not regulates as such with all the certifications and rules and insurances They are "mission specialists" on "the experimental vehicle" for the "project they participate on and finance"... therefore it's all a "private experimental mission". Basically, you can't stop me from building my own sub and going down in it.. And the paperwork made it so that they were part of the group and it was their project and their sub... or something like that. That would have been the first sign of shoddyness and shadyness, even if I knew nothing about material physics and deep sea exploration (which most of us don't me included)
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My dad is an adventurer' and every time he embarks on one of those risky trips, he gives us a big hug. He is a firm believer that a risky adventure could cause his death but that doesn't t stop him from going., he is 83 years old and maybe in the near future he will put an end to his passion for the uncertain and the excitement of the unknown.
I understand that.. for some reason I’m itching to go on a submarine tour. I’ve been on one before (only 300 ft deep) and would love to go. Despite the news, the ocean is still amazing and it’s natural to want to explore
@taylormorrison7486 Im a firm believer that when is your time to go ''' no matter what, you will go..................but if is no meant to be, you can take all kind risks and you will still be here.
Ocean gate is a "professional company"? No, that is a false statement. Thr ceo literally said that safety regulations were a waste of time, and only held up progress.
Stockton's engineering and business decisions basically make him look like psychotic murderer right now. If you ignore nautical engineers in the submersible industry, and greenlight yourself past strict safety regulations because of your "innovation", at that point you are basically using your customers, aka tourists, or what OceanGate called their "mission specialists" as lab rats and you are in fact psychotic.
Not enough food nor water, no safety protocols nor safeguards! No common sense! This man knew better, but went anyway, still encouraging others to create more such subs! Crazy!
the biggest problem was NO redundancy. By the time the warning alert sounded they allegedly have 4 seconds to do nothing but await their fate. The federal govt is sending the NTSB to investigate believe me new regs are coming and they will shut this type of "tourism" and DIY submersible industry down for good.
Glad he answered honestly about not doing it if he had the proper knowledge. I would bet that those who perished would have said the same thing. The company is negligent for not disclosing all information before taking passengers down. Truly a tragedy.
But they did disclose all the important information they would have needed to know in the waiver. They literally say “ this submersible hasn’t been certified for safety by any government body or agency” that’s all I would have needed to know right there
If Titan had been in service for 2-3 years and had completed several round trips to ocean floor, then IMO "material fatigue" was a factor here. That carbon composite had never been used before and the preferred shape--a sphere--was rejected in favor of a cone. Had Titan been a titanium sphere, then this disaster may not have occurred. CEO of Oceangate wanted a cone shape in order to fit more passengers than a sphere.
Exactly. Pressure vessels only can handle a preset number of cycles as you mention. Unfortunately, the people on this trip didn't realize this vessel was done. I seriously doubt the company periodically tested or inspected the vessel based on other reports that they deliberately skirted some safety issues when constructing the vessel because it would cause delays. It sounds like some of the travelers were so enthralled with seeing the Titanic that it outweighed their thoughts about safety. So very sad for the 19 year old boy who wanted to please his dad.
Not to mention, this submersibles hull was carbon fibre… Carbon fibre pressure vessels are common for positive pressure containers.. such as for compressed gasses.. the container under a tension load In the application of a submersible, the hull will be under a compression load Carbon fibre is strong under tension, weak under compression Not an ideal material for this particular application There’s some brilliant engineers and material scientists out there who could make it work I’m sure But I’d imagine the challenges outweigh the benefits for such a small company like this one
@@xoEmilyAnnexo11 Um no. More like thankful I wasnt on that specific trip. Having guilt for something you had absolutely nothing 2 do with is a bit much.
I always thought that though I am not a nautical engineer, that bonding Titainium with Carbon Fibre is a strange combination especially in sea water and at 1000's of LBS per square inch. God bless the people on board RIP
Yes, this has been stated by two other very senior naval diving officers also - that when pressure would be applied it would simply tear apart. Had it been ensured safety regulation standards, these people likely wouldn't have lost their lives. However, I'll never understand how any sensible person would step into a vessel heading for such depths with no backup tracking device, no rescue beam attached, and above all, bolted and unable to be unbolted other than by other people outside the sub. For all their 'exploratory' knowledge apparently these glaring 'fails' didn't even concern anyone at all - and that is simply staggering.
It's definitely not conventional and being two dissimilar materials they are going have completely different fatigue rates over repeat dives. Glue is also quite hard to calculate for as it introduces a lot of irregularities compared to a contiguous material, like all the other titanium sphere subs that have never failed due to an implosion. The titan sub was experimental and totally reckless by the company to be taking paying passengers, regardless of the disclaimers they signed.
He generously throws out words such as “professional” and “visionary” for Oceangate and Rush, then ends the interview by saying if he had known of the criticism three years prior to his trip, he would not have gone.
I find it odd that this man seems to speak so glowingly about the Titan, and Stockton Rush, yet the one man that backed out of this specific dive said it was because there were so many red flags and safety concerns. I mean, I've seen video's of some of the parts that were used, that had other original intended uses. Heck, I wouldn't have been surprised to hear if part of it was held together with duct tape. You could not have paid me a billion dollars to go down on this thing. And all of that is confirmed after hearing James Cameron talking today about just how flawed this thing was, and that he wished he had sounded his concerns, voiced them loudly, earlier.
I think the reason he is speaking so glowingly is because you are witnessing someone with an explorer mindset. This man was excited by the talk, by the idea of it... just like the people who died on the side of Everest who had no business climbing it, thinking it was a bucket list thing... which, I guess it was. The way I look at Oceangate is the same way I look at the Wild West... people who are risking their lives doing things that have not been proven safe. My family and I went on a trip to Hawaii and had thought about doing a helicopter tour... I did so much research and found that, not only had several people died not that long before in a crash, but the time of year we were going the weather would be risky. It literally took me an inch of research to decide I didn't want to gamble. The folks that paid money to die clearly were taken in and did not do their own due diligence. I am just sad that Rush took them with him.
@@Madamegato Yeah! I totally agree with what you are saying! Adventurers sometimes are the most prone to danger, because they are doing what others aren't! I don't think the trip itself would be very dangerous if it had been tested with different materials or in general just TESTED! The problem comes in from all the other factors that make the actual trip sort of a dumb idea. It's TOO deep, no one can go help, it's a submarine so it's already way more limited. OceanGate just proved that being adventurous without weighing the risks will eventually bite you. It sucks to hear him say "CEO died drinking his own Kool Aid" because he really did die, thinking "it's safe" instantly.
I envisioned duct tape holding components of the sub together when I first read about the lawsuits filed against OceanGate by a former employee. As a Floridian I recognize and respect the fix-it power of duct tape lol. But I've also flown on a small passenger plane that had duct tape very clearly applied over cracks around my window. Maybe it was nothing in terms of real risk, but I never forgot the chill that went down my spine 😳 Now whenever I hear about shoddy craftsmanship in situations like this, I think "was there duct tape? 🤔"
He says in the end he wouldnt do it again knowing all the issues, he basically got lucky and went on one of the successful trips which would have been an experience of a lifetime. Being an explorer or whatever doesnt make you aware of all the technical things engineers and so on are. I may have missed it but I dont think he was or is qualified to understand the structural aspects of it. Personally I wonder what/how much the other passengers on this one inquired about regarding the structure or if they were just like hey sign up for a ride to Titanic! and just assumed it was trustworthy.
My great uncle was a marine biologist for the Shedd Aquarium in Chicago. He had this Styrofoam cup he said they had taken down to the trench, and it went from a big gulp cup, to a small shot glass. It was one of the most fascinating things (to me) from his work there. I can't even begin to comprehend not just imploding from that pressure, but knowing it's likely going to happen, because you're descending too fast, and can't do anything about it... The fear from knowing the inevitable is truly unimaginable... I pray for their souls to have peace, and for God to look over their loved ones.
I guess this is not as unique a thing as I thought. I saw a TikTok video yesterday that a guy was showing off 4-5 tiny styrofoam cups. When they were big he drew a picture of the titanic on each one, signed it, then took them down to the titanic and when they brought them back up they were close to the size of the thimble.
You pray for their souls??? The people on board The Titan were a bunch of Wealthy A-holes with a Morbid fascination of seeing he final resting place where something like 1500 souls were lost tragically when The Titanic struck an iceberg and the designers of that ship simply didn't provide enough lifeboats to accommodate everyone on board... No one deserves to die like the people on The Titan but they were all informed of the Great risk involved and they chose to proceed at their own peril... All one can say is that they probably didn't suffer...
Thinking about these men trapped in an inescapable space (possibly in darkness) wrecked my heart. The idea that they suffered none of that is a relief.
I get what you’re saying. I think people choose to do this because of the whole experience. However, don’t get me wrong, I would never do it myself. I’m claustrophobic and have Thalassophobia too lol
Notice how it's all these old retired people going down there and risking their lives because they lived their life to the fullest and have nothing to lose. No young person should be allowed on these expeditions, I really feel sorry for the 19 year old.
His closing remark gets to the heart of informed consent. The customers did not know of the risks because OceanGate sued and threatened to sue anyone who raised the problem of safety and certification. So on the one hand they were asking customers to sign a waiver, meanwhile they were suing and sending lawyers threats to silence critics.
@@jasontimothywells9895t’s a shit show. That’s why true, calculated, and verified innovation should be heralded. Companies that are about the product-at-hand’s capabilities vs the money that comes from the product. The money will always come if the work is good. If it’s bad, you won’t have anything left eventually. Like Stockton…who doesn’t exist now. What a transaction.
@@Narusasu98 It's true and easily verified. Court cases are public record. OCEANGATE INC., a Washington corporation, Plaintiff, v. DAVID LOCHRIDGE and CAROLE REID LOCHRIDGE, and the marital community composed thereof, Defendants. Summarizing the causes of action, OceanGate sought to punish and silence Lochridge for betraying company secrets. Even blaming him for making them fire him. Lochridge's counterclaims revealed that the people he revealed those secrets to were OSHA. The settled the case by a stipulation, the terms of which are not public, but almost certainly silencing Lochridge, that's probably why you have not seen him make any public statements even now.
@@Narusasu98 In addition to the lawsuit the New Yorker article from a few days ago describes the two people Lochridge spoke to about his concerns after being fired (other sub experts) the proprietary information he retained, the safety report, and his complaint to OSHA that he had been fired in retaliation for raising safety concerns and sent OSHA the safety report in an attempt to save lives. He is 100% a whistleblower for all the right reasons.
Watching the video of them attaching the parts with Epoxy glue, a man walking around the pod applying it by hand, so no way of it being an even application, and they then lowered the other part onto it, and viewing it by eye said it was a perfect attachment, shocking
Dude was lucky. It was a deathtrap waiting to happen with how many corners they cut. Sounds like he didn't know what to look out for & bought into the sales pitch which is why he was impressed with them. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
I just saw a video that showed the two titanium end caps being attached to the carbon fiber hull with epoxy glue applied to the seams in an uneven amount using a normal paintbrush while in a non-sterile environment. It was as sloppy as a carpenter using wood glue.
Listening to this guy absolutely confirms "affluenza" isn't just a kid thing. @7:35 is the money shot. Wow. Eschewing time-tested methods, prioritizing profits over basic safety, and summarily dismissing the concerns of experts isn't the same as being "creative, visionary, and finding new ways to do things". The logic bubble these people exist in is overdue for an implosion of its own.
If it wasn’t for people like OceanGate, the human race would still be living in caves. We need people willing to take risks. If no one took big risks, we’d have no civilisation.
Im a Oceanographic Survey Engineer. When i first saw pictures of this Sub i thought it looked a bit amateur. Its thrusters are tiny for the size of it and it only appears to have 4. I cant see any transponders on it (these are always used for locating things under the vessel), the cabling on the outside should really be tied of better or put in some bundles and the fact they seem to have gone for a much cheaper “lid” that bolts on than a proper door. It all leaves me with a sort of feeling of inexperience, amateurish outfit. Im sure there is some great innovations but the sub seems to be lacking somewhat. This guy. He must be feeling somewhat in shock and very lucky right now. I feel sad for the families of those who died. Any loss of life at sea is sad. The wretched iceberg that got Titanic seems to have claimed 5 more lives all these years later :(
The bodies are long gone. How many people do you think have died in all of history? Almost everywhere is a 'grave site' if you think about all the people before us. Why are you all upset about that particular grave site? Selective thinking.
@@slimetooomob1656 What has the depth got to do with it? Thousands of people die every day. Billions before us. Why are you all upset about Titanic deaths in particular? Did you cry watching the movie?
People must really want to see that shipwreck badly. I don't get it, who wants to risk their life for that? With all the things in the world to see, that's not worth it. This man with his window covered from the outside may be confined to that house by his very concerned relatives.
The titanic is a big deal to a lot of older ppl For wealthy risk takers and adventurers this is a chance of lifetime. I wouldn’t dare but I can definitely see why thrill seekers would it
This was a great interview. The guest was thoughtful and logical, and he told an uncluttered story. The interviewer came across as interested in the guest, not performing or calling attention to herself.
I've been saying the same. Even if that submersible was made of titanium a foot thick and had every safety feature that guaranteed nothing would go wrong, I still wouldn't go.
I would go - just not on Titan. This is a super safe industry with no accidents in like 50 years for multiple certified ships. Then they yahoo comes along, in uncertified ship b/c he does not want to spend $$$ to get it certified. Makes it out of carbon fiber that everyone says is unsafe. End result is 5 people dead.
They probably accepted anyone who was willing put money in their pockets. In the end, you gotta think it was really more about money than anything else, when a company is not even willing to certify it's vessel. Ya, it's sad...but also hard to pity anyone who didn't do their due diligence before doing this kind of extreme voyage.
From a BBC article on the incident- “Experts have questioned the safety of Titan and how private sector deep-sea expeditions are regulated. Concerns have been raised over the Titan's experimental design and the carbon fibre material used to build it. More than three dozen industry leaders and experts even signed a 2018 letter to Mr Rush that warned OceanGate's approach could lead to "catastrophic" problems” “The industry has been trying for several years to get Stockton Rush to halt his programme for two reasons," said Rob McCallum, a specialist who runs his own ocean expedition company, told the BBC on Friday. "One is that carbon fibre is not an acceptable material," he said. "The other is that this was the only submersible in the world doing commercial work that was unclassed. It was not certified by an independent agency." Why this arrogant egotistical bastard, Stockton Rush, wasn’t under investigation should definitely be a part of the conversation by now. Rob McCallum was even threatened by lawyers for Rush and Oceangate if he went public with these safety concerns. This clown should’ve been arrested and charged for just attempting to sell tickets to tour the wreckage of the Titanic aboard an experimental and uncertified vessel.
It just wasn't his time to go.And the titan hadn't been damaged by all the other trips down to the titanic. So sad 5 lives have to be lost before they have to be inspected
A sphere is the only shape capable of resisting the massive forces at that depth...a cylinder shape has the weakness of the flat end panels compounded by the fact that they were dissimilar materials and by all accounts poorly bonded...
Yes, the shape of Titan seems bizarre, given the forces at that depth. As you say, a sphere serves to distribute the forces evenly and lock in strength . . .
I appreciate him sharing his experience. Glad he is alive and wish they had retired the ship earlier… actually, done the right safety checks to begin with.
If it is in international waters, who would have the jurisdiction to make such a declaration? Cruise companies get away with doing zero investigations into the rapes and murders that happen on cruise ships by saying "we were in international waters, no police force as the authority to investigate, no country has any authority over any alleged crime" They leave many traumatized families in their wake in each, while pocketing the cash.
@@panda4247 That is a legit point. There is no one coherent way of approaching this area. Though maybe there simply isn't. The unwritten rule seems to be...the older a site is, the more it becomes "archeology". In the case of the Edmund Fitzgerald no one is allowed to dive the wreck anymore, but that is somewhat due to the peculiar conditions of Lake Superior. It's so cold, bodies last and last. Though I believe it is also illegal for anyone to try to get to the wreck of the Estonia in the Baltic. However both those cases are of areas where the wreck is in the waters of a specific country, or there is a treaty about what countries have official interest or say about the area of the wreck.
This report is comical. He absolutely had no idea what danger he was in, had no real knowledge of the safety of the submersible, and by the grace of God, he lived. Bro, you were a living test dummy for something untested and obviously deadly.
Even on the bottom of the sea, the only way to see Titanic is through a small window. How is that different from looking at the screen? The only difference is that the living room won't implode
1) "suburban man" is a rich dude who doesn't want to be identified. 2) while he was describing his experience he brought up "how professional OceanGate was". This sends up some red flags - is he invested in the company? Or?
I commend his bravery. I would never have gotten the courage to do it. Sometimes I think of things I said no to and wonder if I missed out. But maybe missing out isn’t always the worst thing in life.
This makes me so upset. Stockton knew the risks and assured his passengers this was a very safe submersible. The passengers were most likey not aware that experts had warned this was not a safe submersible. Stockton thought he knew best and got himself and others killed.
The CEO was so fascinated of what he's doing to the point that he became very confident with his subermisible without thinking its risk Furthermore, He keeps on disregarding warns of other experts and professionals.
That sub looked like something Homer Simpson would build in his garage. The tube was held together with glue and the ballasts were wood poles from Home Depot.
Right.. Those men” and teen who was 19” they were worth millions and billions,they could see anything and everything… This is like that crazy nut Musk,who wants to travel to Mars😂😂I’m not laughing at the lives lost just to be clear… But enough is enough.. Sorry for my bad English..
If James Cameron was to invite me to watch an undersea movie, but only if I sit in a derelict building that was on the verge of collapsing at any moment, I'd just rent the DVD as soon as it came out and safely watch it in the comfort of my living room where I know I''m not in much danger.
