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I LOVED the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes & HERE'S WHY (spoilers!) 

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@ihavelemonade5640
@ihavelemonade5640 3 года назад
Lucy Gray really did come back tp haunt him, and it gives me so much satisfaction just thinking about Snow watching Katniss sing the meadow song to Rue and the Hanging tree song, her becoming the Mockingjay, the thing he hated, basically becoming the embodiment of his past... that must've stung badly, and I'm glad it did.
@sammiesmith1601
@sammiesmith1601 Год назад
I thoroughly enjoyed this too! Realising how much Katniss would have impacted him, the fact that she was his undoing and such a vivid reminder of Lucy Gray in so many ways was so satisfying
@contadalu
@contadalu Год назад
Omg yes I didn't even thought about that while reading it, but you're right, just like the song, Lucy Gray really did became a ghost embodied by Katniss AAAA OMG
@jackiesparr4313
@jackiesparr4313 Год назад
Another parallel I saw while reading the book to Katniss and Rue, was with Lucy and Jessup. Like Snow tried to convince everyone that Lucy is not one of the district people because she stayed with Jessup while he died. And then there is Katniss who stayed with Rue while she died and even sang a song to her. And this was maybe the first time Katniss reminded Snow of Lucy.
@hannahconnolly5063
@hannahconnolly5063 4 года назад
I feel like we just watched snow get worse and worse as the story went on...until he was a twisted little snake
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
It was super cool to see his descent to evil
@thebluepineapple684
@thebluepineapple684 Год назад
@@PeytonReads I agree! The final “Snow lands on top” was actually scary to me.
@breakops5339
@breakops5339 4 года назад
Once Snow went into the Arena himself my entire feelings on the book changed, I realized suzzane wasn't writing an ass sequel and wrote something worth reading.
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
That part got me so excited to read more!
@Blodreina45
@Blodreina45 4 года назад
Don’t forget because of the tributes starving before the idea of sponsors, we know why the games are literally called THE HUNGER GAMES!!!
@fayelewthwaite606
@fayelewthwaite606 4 года назад
The ending gave me CHILLS
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
SAME OMG
@ladynatalie4081
@ladynatalie4081 4 года назад
Same!
@adrianar.s.390
@adrianar.s.390 4 года назад
Same!!
@soniwatts8128
@soniwatts8128 3 года назад
Girl yasssss me too!! I finished reading and reviewing it a month ago and I still can't get it out of my psyche!! Lol
@jamesthedachshund8741
@jamesthedachshund8741 3 года назад
Same!!
@ninjaproskills0077
@ninjaproskills0077 4 года назад
I believe Snow was in general a bad person and with Dr. Gaul, she brought out the wort in him. He almost had the capability for kindness and compassion......but in the end, threw it all out for money and power.
@amyoosh
@amyoosh 2 года назад
yes! i feel like this was represented when he threw his mother’s powder in the trash and kept his father’s compass
@John-vg9ll
@John-vg9ll 4 года назад
I love how they developed Snow's character throughout the book. Him killing Bobbin and losing his "innocence" as he talks about in the book, selling out Sejanus, poisoning Highbottom in the end....this guy is truly evil. It is unfortunate what happened to Sejanus, I wish he never told Snow about the plan to leave the district and start a new life. Sadly for him, he just got too close to Snow.
@margarettherese5716
@margarettherese5716 4 года назад
I paused at 19:47 just to comment this: So Dr. Gaul is THE REASON WHY MY FINNICK ODAIR IS DEAD
@mikemike8424
@mikemike8424 4 года назад
I was almost to the end when it clicked that the avoxes with the scales were meant to be early reptile mutts and I was shook
@joychristine.9165
@joychristine.9165 3 года назад
I want my Finnick back 😡
@edra3118
@edra3118 3 года назад
Dr. Gaul is the true villain of the Hunger Games
@jamesthedachshund8741
@jamesthedachshund8741 3 года назад
@@edra3118 yepppp
@ihavelemonade5640
@ihavelemonade5640 3 года назад
Dr. Gaul is also the reason the Hunger Games became a thing remember? Kind of We do not stan
@alexiabarton9130
@alexiabarton9130 4 года назад
I personally loved this book. I actually liked the difference between this and the main trilogy. And I loved seeing how he got into like the poison and being the disgusting person he was
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I totally feel the same way!
@kaelarose9351
@kaelarose9351 4 года назад
I loved this book because it didn’t make me like Snow at all. I still hate him. I loved the politics. I loved the call backs to the og trilogy. I like seeing into Snows mind and how he is always thinking about how he can make every situation benefit him in some way. I think people didn’t like it because of the “romance” but like you said it wasn’t an actual romance at all! He kept saying “that’s my girl” or “she’s mine” in a very creepy possessive way which is just 🤮
@soyeons-veggies
@soyeons-veggies 4 года назад
Exactly!! People miss this point entirely, Snow didn’t love anyone but himself and once he didn’t need Lucy Gray anymore...
@tyjoseph7343
@tyjoseph7343 3 года назад
@@soyeons-veggies I think he loved the idea of what she could bring him, and mistook that for personal love. Perhaps, as he hints at the end, he did truly love her, but he was callous enough to understand that wouldn’t be “the good” path for him, or for humanity, from his young, heavily indoctrinated brain.
@luchia918
@luchia918 4 года назад
Sejanus diserved to live. He was the only one who knew what was going on in the two perspectives. He knew how bad they had to live in the districts, and he knew that some people in the capitol lived an horrible live. Due to his, he is the only one in this book who can say which band is the good one, and which band is the bad one. So, when he said that the districts lived bad, Coriolanus should have believed him P. D: Sorry for my horrible English.
@edra3118
@edra3118 3 года назад
Can we all agree that Dr. Gaul is the true villain of the Hunger Games series??? Even though Highbottom and Crassus Snow were the ones that came up with the assignment they never envisioned it coming true Dr. Gaul was the one that made the assignment and pulled out the proposal to punish the district's and created the mutts to make the Games more cruel Also I think she had nefarious intentions when she made the assignment in the first place and was going to turn in something to the Capitol anyways
@madisondoerr3453
@madisondoerr3453 4 года назад
Did you notice that the title, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes basically translates to "the love story of Lucy Gray and Snow" because Lucy Gray is a songbird and Snow is a snake. It's not just named that because there are birds and snakes in the book, I just realized this now watching your video
@mayarelling7332
@mayarelling7332 4 года назад
omg 😱
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
Dang that's super cool!
@lucageddes2885
@lucageddes2885 4 года назад
OMG 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 I am in shock
@ice_bead
@ice_bead 4 года назад
it also works the other way around! Lucy Gray is the snake because she poisoned people in the arena and always knows where to find snakes, and Snow is the songbird because he's a jabberjay (ok jabberjays aren't technically songbirds but you take my point)
@cousinbull
@cousinbull 3 года назад
It could be that way, but I think there's a deeper more personal meaning of the title translating to the overall message of the book. But it could be both ways, I just don't think Susan meant it to be evolved completely around snows and lucy's relationship?
@charlietheis4048
@charlietheis4048 4 года назад
I really hope we get a.. sequel to the prequel?😂 where we see how Snow becomes President, maybe as a short story or a collection of short stories? That way we could also get Finnick, Joana‘s etc story without it being as repetitive as it would be if we had a whole book about them, like you said
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I'd honestly kill for a novella collection of finnick, johanna, and haymitch and their stories
@leonardo.diCATio
@leonardo.diCATio 3 года назад
It'd be so interesting to see what Finnick had described about Snow in action. Like the killing, the manipulation, the games. Though the story of this prequel was super interesting, I feel like we missed out on a lot of the SUPER evil stuff.
@lucyross1617
@lucyross1617 3 года назад
I love this idea
@tyrathebooks2481
@tyrathebooks2481 4 года назад
I feel like we never found out about who actually bombed the arena. Like they said it was rebels, but it was never confirmed. That unanswered question really annoys me
@drawingnikaycee9261
@drawingnikaycee9261 4 года назад
I'm smelling a sequel. 🤣🤣
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I feel like there was quite a few loose ends tbh
@RockPaperBunny
@RockPaperBunny 4 года назад
I feel like it was a ploy set up by doc Gall to have people hate the districts and excuse the use of mutts and people would be less adversed to the hunger games as a whole
@whimsicallymad7580
@whimsicallymad7580 4 года назад
To be honest, I wouldn't put it past the capitol to bomb their own to create more hate towards the districts
@edra3118
@edra3118 3 года назад
Dr. Gaul might've been behind the explosives to garner more support for the Games and to make the Games more interesting that year since she was most concerned with Capitol citizens losing interest in the games
@adrianar.s.390
@adrianar.s.390 4 года назад
This book opened up my whole view of life. Snow is actually one of my fav characters. He is evil of course, but as it said in the book “People aren’t so bad, really,” She said. “It’s what the world does to them.”
@TheBookishMom
@TheBookishMom 4 года назад
I am so glad someone other than me enjoyed this book too! Like, the only thing is I wanted to see Lucy Grey's perspective.... I want to see more of the world now too, like I hope she does more books leading up to the hunger games and does more tribute's stories.
@ninjaproskills0077
@ninjaproskills0077 4 года назад
YES YES YES! ANOTHER BOOK FROM THIS EXACT TIMELINE BUT FROM LUCY GRAY’S PERSPECTIVE!!!!!!! But I don’t think we will have a book like that because Suzanne Collins had to make Lucy Gray’s ending mirror the poem ‘Lucy Gray’ by William Wordsworth. Also her name is Lucy Gray not Lucy Grey
@kenadieraj7189
@kenadieraj7189 4 года назад
The Bookish Mom the games in the hunger games are pretty short, so I thought if she would write tributes games they would be novellas in a bind up or something
@TheBookishMom
@TheBookishMom 4 года назад
@@kenadieraj7189 I would love to see that. I think novela bindup of all the games would be perfect
@TheBookishMom
@TheBookishMom 4 года назад
@@ninjaproskills0077 true a novella of just her time in the games would be nice though and yes I always get the grey/gray spelling messed up 😂
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
It really sucks that this book was dual POV like I was hoping it would be!
@joezamago851
@joezamago851 4 года назад
I started wanting snow to succed but at the end i wanted him to stop but we all know who he becomes
@contadalu
@contadalu Год назад
Exactly!!! The thing is that, Suzanne wrote it so well that eventhough you knew how horrible he would turn out, we started actually feeling hope for him!!!!! YOU KNOW?
@teapot984
@teapot984 4 года назад
was it just me or was this book SO vivid and atmospheric while you were reading it? i could picture all of it so well, was probably part of the reason i was so invested.
@ursidae97
@ursidae97 Год назад
Suzanne Collins is such a lovely author and she's getting better
@darrahsamson4399
@darrahsamson4399 4 года назад
I love the book it is so interesting to see Panem from a different POV
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I totally agree!
@Magicat27
@Magicat27 4 года назад
To me, Snow seemed like he had some goodness in him that just gradually got more and more twisted to justify his drives for power and status.The feeling throughout the book that something bad was gonna happen to Lucy made it so hard for me to put down, I read the whole thing in a day
@jula-maytaylor7893
@jula-maytaylor7893 4 года назад
I love how well this book links up to the original trilogy from the songs, to poison , to mocking jays. I was afraid this book would be like the cursed child to harry potter but it links so well that it seems like Collins wrote Snow's back story before the original trilogy!
@ursidae97
@ursidae97 Год назад
She might have. But I also think pieces of the actors performance informed how she wrote this book.
@who_the_fuck_is_riley5813
@who_the_fuck_is_riley5813 3 года назад
The dynamic between Snow and Lucy Gray was really interesting to me. It felt like she really could have brought out the best in him if it wasn't for everything else going on around him. Dr. Gaul really brought out the worst possible traits in him, and I feel like without her influence he could have been a normal person. Maybe my perspective is horribly skewed because I love villain characters, but I ended up just feeling bad for every character except Gaul. Edit: I absolutely adore this book, and it's my favorite in the Hunger Games universe. I know most people will disagree but it's just my opinion.
@AndrewsEdits
@AndrewsEdits 4 года назад
After one month I finally finished and I was actually SCREAMING when I read the ending because I kept treating Snow as a protagonist
@deniseaguila3977
@deniseaguila3977 4 года назад
Yes I agree! Even though I like to think that we’d enjoy a story about Haymitch, Maggs, Joanna or another tribute it would be pretty repetitive
@laneyrigell7665
@laneyrigell7665 4 года назад
totally
@aishaelayoubi3079
@aishaelayoubi3079 4 года назад
That’s what I thought. Haymitch might be different because he had double the amount of tributes, but apart from that you’re basically reading the same story all over again.
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
Exactly!
@tyjoseph7343
@tyjoseph7343 3 года назад
Snow’s perspective truly brought something fresh, and new, and actually added to the overall story of the hunger games instead of being just pure fanfare. She created a more detailed and complex world, as well as one even more relatable to our own. Thats just pure genius.
@jadakiss6840
@jadakiss6840 4 года назад
I just loved that it gave snow a motive for the events of the later books. He wasn’t a great person to begin with, it kind of helps show how he became the person he was which is really interesting
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
This book definitely brings complexity to his character!
@addibaddi555
@addibaddi555 4 года назад
I loved the book and it was great! There were some confusing parts and the end was very sudden and unexpected for me. But all in all it’s a Hunger Games book and its my favorite series so how could I not like it! Oh and also... I’m fine with as many prequels as Suzanne wants to write but I’m not for any sequels... like you kind of touched on at the live yesterday! (Great live btw! I loved it!)
@liliannareder5906
@liliannareder5906 4 года назад
IKR the ending was so sudden when Lucy just disappeared
@ninjaproskills0077
@ninjaproskills0077 4 года назад
Lilianna Reder Suzanne Collins had to make the ending rushed and sudden because Suzanne Collins had to make Lucy Gray’s ending the EXACT same as the poem ‘Lucy Gray’ by William Wordsworth.
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I totally agree!
@lacasadehonor9408
@lacasadehonor9408 4 года назад
@@ninjaproskills0077 i hope the next book is about lucy gray and her life
@caroline-sk5pl
@caroline-sk5pl 4 года назад
When Lucy gray betrayed him I was like........ OH MY GOD I know this book wasn’t everyone’s fav but I loved it ❤️🔥 GLAD U FEEL THE SAME PEYTON ( the discussion live stream yesterday was awesome) Love u
@williamnissen5083
@williamnissen5083 4 года назад
Was it really a betrayal if she realised he was an asshole
@caroline-sk5pl
@caroline-sk5pl 4 года назад
William Nissen lol yeah I was like why not sooner
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
So glad you loved it too! And thank you for joining the stream!!
@everyone_u
@everyone_u 4 года назад
lucy gray is also good at manipulating wasn't she? It's like she made snow believed she loves him because she knew snow liked her. lucy is indeed the songbird and the snake. *but i'm really curious about her point of view*
@baileywadsworth8356
@baileywadsworth8356 4 года назад
I gave it 5/5 stars as well. I really enjoyed the book a lot and I’m a HUGE hunger games fan which helps😂
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I'm so glad you loved it!
@maddyg2320
@maddyg2320 3 года назад
I loved the book too. Being so close to Snow, Tigress must've seen how evil her cousin eventually became and knew that ppl were better off if he wasn't around to rule them.
@maddyg2320
@maddyg2320 3 года назад
Tigris * Lol autocorrect has a mind of its own🤷‍♀️
@michellenillas7719
@michellenillas7719 4 года назад
12:17 AM I just finished reading it and I still don't know how to function. I'm like just gasping for air. I came here to calm myself down...
@littlegreen2530
@littlegreen2530 3 года назад
I'm just over here crying over Sejanus... I really liked the book. I love the references to the Trilogie and the symbolism. I love Sejanus, he is such an angel and I can't get over his death and how Snow could just live with his parents. Like I knew he was terrible but my God thats just disgusting. I kind of had a feeling that Highbottom wasn't as horrible as Snow pictured him to be. He just didn't seem to like the Hunger Games and wasn't on board with the whole thing. He seemed somewhat sane so that was great. But yeah this book hit me kind of hard honestly I had to take my time to process what I just read after finishing it.
@reina4770
@reina4770 4 года назад
Although I really appreciated this prequel and I always find the villain's point of view fascinating, I would love to see a collection of short stories from other characters' perspectives. Like Haymitch, Effie, Peeta, Finnick, Johanna, Foxface, Cato, Gale, etc. All of the characters we've been wondering about. I feel like it would be interesting and the shorter length would mean that they didn't get too boring/repetitive.
@robins5828
@robins5828 4 года назад
I like this...I think a whole book could get too repetitive, but a series of short stories where we get glimpses of life in the other districts and more backstory to characters would be amazing.
@wildflower3873
@wildflower3873 4 года назад
I agree with this 💯
@elianafajardo3413
@elianafajardo3413 4 года назад
I also very much loved how they had Lucy Gray just vanish like in the song that happens to be her namesake.
@elianafajardo3413
@elianafajardo3413 4 года назад
From the second he recorded Sejanus with the jabberjay all the way to the end, my heart was non stop beating super fast. & then when he was sent back to the Capitol i was so mad. Even though i knew he was gna end up back there
@DraconicNightRaven
@DraconicNightRaven Год назад
He also wanted the tributes to be treated better so they'd be less likely to die of "natural" causes before they'd get a chance to fight and so they'd be a little healthier to put on a better show and look more attractive so more people would bet on them and send them "gifts".
@elliebelle5061
@elliebelle5061 4 года назад
Its 5/5 stars ⭐️ still not as good as the original trilogy but i loveee it ❤️
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
Totally agree!
@frankomutinelli
@frankomutinelli Год назад
I don't know why, but Snow reminds me of Gale, what with the jealousy of Lucy's previous lover, and the sort of twisted mind.
@alaaezz6512
@alaaezz6512 4 года назад
If susan collins wrote about almacoin it would be amazing
@kittyunderwood8918
@kittyunderwood8918 3 года назад
I've been hoping she would make this a trilogy but not all in Snows perspective. I was thinking the next could be Tigris, and didn't think about who could be after that but Coin would be perfect I think
@LilyEleanorReads
@LilyEleanorReads 4 года назад
i totally agree with everything you said about having a book about the other victors, it definitely would've been really repetitive!! yeah i defo got the vibe in the trilogy that snow had some sort of understanding/respect for katniss even if her actions pissed him off yess i so wish we had Lucy Gray's POV the more i think about it, it would've been so interesting!! i defo want to reread it at some point and see what my feelings are with some distance and less hype around it i had so much fun co-hosting the readalong with you!!! and yes would love to see you reading her other series, i defo want to do that at some point too!!
@lacasadehonor9408
@lacasadehonor9408 4 года назад
i hope the next book is about lucy gray and how she marries katniss grandpa, that way we can see the rise of snow and his actions from the POV of the people, ordinary people
@adrienash7595
@adrienash7595 4 года назад
I absolutely loved this book!
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
It's so good!
@dc66
@dc66 4 года назад
my rant, i LOVED it. this is the first hunger games book i read (even though I've seen the movies and I actually know lots of what happens in the book instead of movies). i wouldnt have wanted a prequel for any other character. it just wouldn't make sense, it would be kinda boring. personally, i dont really know what people wanted because i thought it was probably the best version of what it was. if a change was necessary, suzanne would have made a change. but this is the story that she wrote. one of my favorite things about the book is that the moment you are about to feel empathy, you're reminded of the horrible things he did to get there. snow was never a good person and he was never in love. Lucy gray didn't know snow, didn't know his true intentions. but my overall favorite thing is that we found out where the hanging tree song came from. i know lots of people disliked part 2/the games part but it was supposed to be more dull, thats because the games haven't evolved yet and they are just starting to get ideas. and the other tributes and mentors werent important, so are backstories really necessary? not really, no. also, i never found the book boring at all lol okie that's my rant! :)
@nataliebarth7651
@nataliebarth7651 4 года назад
Agreed! A lot of people wanted Haymitch's Games, Finnick's Games, Johanna's Games. But honestly, it wouldn't have been as satisfying because we know they all win and we know their general strategies (weakling, trident/looks, alliance with Maysilee, etc). But Snow had a different story arch that was quite interesting. At some point, I was thinking about how depressing being a Peacekeeper would be and then he made disgusting, true-to-his-character decisions and I was shocked back into the story and what he ended up doing. The pacing was a bit slow, but, honestly, I enjoyed it a lot. One of my favorite things about the Hunger Games franchise is that there is something for everyone: romance, action, story-building, character analysis. Its great. Gosh, sorry that was a long reply.
@kittyunderwood8918
@kittyunderwood8918 3 года назад
I'm sure plenty of people have said this to you already, but please read the OG trilogy when you get a chance. The movies did do a really good job adapting them, but if you enjoyed Ballad, you will definitely enjoy the originals a lot more than the movies
@philosopher6399
@philosopher6399 4 года назад
I did believe Snow cared about Lucy and that made me sympathize with him somewhat, but when Snow allows the parents of Sejanus to take care of him that's when I realized he was truly despicable. How can you be the reason behind someone's death and then allow their parents to take care of you financially and believe that you were the only friend their son had and be ok with that? So tragic
@alainalettuce1933
@alainalettuce1933 4 года назад
I absolutely loved it and I’m sad not everyone loved it! I’m just happy I loved it because it keeps the series alive In my heart for me!
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I agree! Wish more people liked it tbh but I can see why they don't
@georgemoangher1593
@georgemoangher1593 3 года назад
"Hippity, hoppity, how was the zoo? You fell in a cage, and your tribute did too!" - Dr. Gaul
@gabyflores6344
@gabyflores6344 4 года назад
WARNING: This might be a long comment haha DISCLAIMER: I only read The Hunger Games prior to reading this book (required reading in high school and because of that kinda ruined my motivation to finish the trilogy BUT I have seen all the movies (not the same I know) I am so glad that you loved this book because I absolutely loved it too. I agree with all your points that you made, especially when you mentioned that the book was slow in certain points. The only thing that kept me going through those slow points was that I wanted to know what happened at the end lol. I will say, I disagree with your point about Lucy Gray not figuring Snow out sooner. I felt like Lucy and Snow were so similar in certain ways. She outsmarted all her other rivals in the arena and Snow manipulated his peers. I personally felt like the reason Snow killed Lucy in the end was not only because his future with her was one he didn't want, but also because he felt intimidated by her. Like he felt like she was the only one who could outsmart him and get around his manipulations and he felt threatened, so he killed her (it makes sense in my head but idk if it makes sense here lol). Anyway, when this book was initially announced I didn't care much for it, but then when it was revealed that it was going to center on President Snow's backstory, I instantly pre-ordered it. I had the hope that this book was going to convince me to give the original series another shot AND IT DID. So I'm definitely going to try to squeeze in the original trilogy into my reading plans sometime this month.
@iamnotperfectx
@iamnotperfectx 4 года назад
I‘m soo glad someone other than me liked the ballad of songbirds and snakes :‘)
@ameliawhite2690
@ameliawhite2690 4 года назад
I really want to read the book but I’m not finished with catching fire yet. The struggle 😫🥺
@theresalwaystimeforslime3293
@theresalwaystimeforslime3293 4 года назад
Im on mockingjay and I can't wait to read the ballad of songbirds and snakes
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I hope you enjoy it once you get to it!
@enchantedmrc02
@enchantedmrc02 4 года назад
Rereading is definitely worth it! You'll get to notice more of Suzanne's easter eggs. It definitely adds to the overall satisfaction.
@fangirlingmess9139
@fangirlingmess9139 11 месяцев назад
i'm impressed you held the book up for the entire time
@jamie.lynn004
@jamie.lynn004 4 года назад
I kinda want a sequel but I kinda don't. I have so many questions. 1. Who are the Covey? I have a theory that they're Katniss's relatives. It makes sence. Lucy Gray's singing, they're Seam, katniss plant is mentioned, so many things about Lucy Gray and Katniss line up (both cheated their Games). 2. What happened to Spruce? How did he get the weapons into the cabin but then died in between that? 3. I want a POV of Lucy Gray from that end. Wouldn't she know the snake she picked wasn't poisonous? It was a really half assed attempt at killing him, and I believe she could do better. Was she just trying to scare him away? 4. Did she really die though? What happened to her? Until we see a body, there's no solid proof. Did she live and actully continue up north? Live in the cabin? Did she really die? 5. What happened between Tigris and Snow? Right now they adore each other. What happened to make them fall out? Was it just Snow's ever more obvious decent into insanity?
@jula-maytaylor7893
@jula-maytaylor7893 4 года назад
The thing with Haymitch,finnick and Johanna is we already know there origins so it would be pointless
@migshimself
@migshimself 9 месяцев назад
i just finished reading the book and i’m glad to see a few booktubers liked this the way i liked it too 😭 hope you make a movie review/reaction once the movies out!
@kiaradowns1180
@kiaradowns1180 4 года назад
I just realized something. It might be very small but I wanted to point it out. Snow has a thing with the roses. And he uses it against katniss and peeta. And I just watched the first movie and while peeta was doing his interview he said to Cesar. Do I smell like roses to you? And the. Also in the hijacking interviews he holds roses. People might all ready know that. But I just felt like pointing it out.😂
@sophie-kx2mu
@sophie-kx2mu 4 года назад
i swear you’re my spirit animal i agree with literally everything you said
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I'm glad you liked the book as well!
@ttpdsecretary
@ttpdsecretary 4 года назад
Is your boyfriend going to read the prequel? I would be SO interested to see his thought! Also your videos together are SO CUTE!!!
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
He plans on it! He's trying to finish his current read the goblet of fire first though! Maybe I will have him review it in a video
@yboukhlal
@yboukhlal 4 года назад
I found it so iconic that snow became the new plinth son after killing sejanus ahah it’s so relevant on what he becomes after
@averyjones9149
@averyjones9149 4 года назад
I also liked it!! I agree with you that our world could become this. When I read the trilogy for the first time, and watched the movies for the first time the whole time I thought about if our world turned into that, and we would have The Hunger Games. Did anyone else think that??
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
It definitely feels like a warning to all of us
@nmoney6655
@nmoney6655 Год назад
I actually read the first few chapters of the book until the part where she was in the games and so far my favorite character is Tigris she hits different for me
@leticiarevitto3433
@leticiarevitto3433 2 года назад
i just finished the book and i JUST FOUND OUT that people didn’t like it in general??? i was shocked!!! Is it a fan service? Kinda. But WHAT a good fan service it is!!! i fell for snow just like lucy gray (believing in the good parts and ignoring the red flags most of the time) until it was too late - even though i knew where he was heading. and that’s on the brilliant collins writing!!! i agree with people that feel like the pacing in the book was weird (many arcs, with no natural transition at all between them), but other than that i feel like it was such a great addition to the saga! thank you for sharing your pov ❤️
@orlatanner
@orlatanner 4 года назад
honestly so glad to see someone love this book like i did! loved your review peyton
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
Thank you!!
@unlikelyaspy23
@unlikelyaspy23 4 года назад
Did you watch the Maiah Wynne covers of the songs on RU-vid? If not, I implore you too. They are really good and bring the songs to life.
@micaelarocio9384
@micaelarocio9384 4 года назад
I loved the book!! It was such an interesting add to the trilogy ! I loved how Suzanne managed Snow back story and his perspective and also I stan Lucy Gray with my heart ! The book maybe wasn't perfect but absolutely worth it !!
@splag5992
@splag5992 4 года назад
Love the balled of songbirds and snakes too
@klarsen117
@klarsen117 4 года назад
I would love a Snow pov during the original trilogy. I need to know what went through his mind during that time.
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
That certainly would be interesting!
@luchia918
@luchia918 4 года назад
In special when he sees Katniss in the dress of a mockingjay, and when she sings the "hunging tree"
@contadalu
@contadalu Год назад
I think what made Lucy Gray trust him more was the fact he risked a lot during the games, his future, his family therefore but i get what you're saying!! In general i loved your review it was so raw and authentic, so close to my experience! Thank you so much :,)))
@Ian_Darko
@Ian_Darko 4 года назад
I was kind of middle of the road on this book but your video gave me a bit of an appreciation for it.
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I'm so glad!
@roro-mm7cc
@roro-mm7cc 4 года назад
Imo this is the best book of all by quite a stretch - yeh I can understand why teens may be a little dissapointed that they didn't get their action packed tween love story but this was never what made the hunger games interesting in my opinion. The psychology behind a character like.snow.fascinates.me so I couldn't have been more excited when I found out the plot. Also I love how we see how the hunger games was so different back then with many capitol citizens dreading it and it provides an incredibly believable dive into the psychology behind not only the creation of the hunger games and how it was turned slowly into what we see in the trilogy - I was much more fascinated with the deeper themes, politics, and rather bleak messages about human nature as a whole... and comparing our world to panem minus the hunger games are we really that different?? Panem is just a microcosm of global society as a whole - US/ rich western European countries are like the capitol and poor countries around the world in Africa middle east india south east asia and south America are like the districts.. Think about it ppl here never have to worry about not having enough to eat in fact poorer ppl tend to eat MORE than rich ppl weirdly in rich countries and are more likely to be obese (70% of the us population!!) Ppl here just worry about silly materialistic consumerist entertainment like fashion trends makeup ,pop culture and celebrities... Just like the capitol citizens. This high expense lifestyle (ie basically.unlimited choice for food, top class medicine, clothes ect) all of us expect to lead has to come from somewhere.. often at a human cost ofc somewhere far away u don't have to think about it hundreds of millions working a slavelike existense in a sweatshop or factory in china, children mining in India forced into labour just so their family can have enough to eat .. in INCREDIBLY dangerous conditions these are the kind of ppl who provide all the resources , raw materials that contribute to maybe ur makeup pallete, iPhone, or chocolate u are gorging urself on .. I could imagine countries in povery with millions starving might look the same way at America with all it's massively obese ppl in the same way the starving districts look at the unlimited food in the capitol. But the similarities between the USA and the capitol don't stop there - there are over a hundred US army bases stationed around the world guarding carefully over strategically important trade locations - the question of the bases continued existense was brought up after the fall of the USSR but the US said keeping a massively large military stationed all over the world was necessary for maintaining 'peace' across the globe hmm where have I heard that before? Ah so the us considers it's army 'peacekeepers' - hmm it's also very convenient they are all.stationee near places of.importance both for trade and ensuring the supply of essential natural resources to America / Europe - keeping peace is obviously in the interest of the countries benefitting from the current global order. Not so much for the ones at the bottom.of the pile .. I wonder if everyone in poor exploited countries feel US global.precense is necessary for peace... just in the same way as a member of district 11 may not be happy with the capitol 'necesarry for security'. Ofc if ur a capitol citizen and everything is amazing u are one of the lucky ones so peace is preferable.. - the world would seem.fine from that point of view ur life is great and suffering of others is far enough removed and put of sight for u to not care. Even in this book it's interesting how the ppl in charge are deliberately trying to create a hatred and resentment of anything 'district' in the minds of the capitol citizens. The supposed terrorist attack on the arena was used as propaganda to hate the districts.. however it is unclear whether this was really the work of districts at all.. it was certainly very convenient for Dr gaul she got a new arena. But as she said when they hit us we hit back twice as hard. The us certainly did the same after it was hit with the 9/11 terrorist attack - hit back Many times as hard and used the incident to incite anger hatred against a certain group.. which would later give the invasion of Iraq much more public support... I am in no way a terrorist sympathisor and am.super anti war/violence but it's interesting to try and understand the motivations behind such an attack... Now maybe imagine someone so desperate in district 12 being ruled over by tyranny in a bout of insanity and anger somehow manages to fly a hovercraft into a capitol skyskraper... Could be a similar situation. Also the popularity of the hunger games movies kind of drives this point home even further - it seems drawing entertainment from watching something about children killing children isn't just appealing to the capitol but ppl in the real world too... How.are.we any different to the capitol citizens ? A film about children fighting to the death gained massive popularity around the world ... Should this be worrying ?
@wordsbykaye
@wordsbykaye 4 года назад
Your lighting and the quality of this video are soooo amazing holy crap. 😆 Though it had some slow parts and things that didn't move the plot much, I really enjoyed this book as well lol I don't think it deserves all the bad reviews it's actually getting. President Snow aside, the plot was really well developed. I really appreciated the fact that she didn't try to force us to relate to Snow. He stayed true to himself the entire book. He tried to be "good" and empathetic at some points, but he realized that wasn't him and just reverted back to the Snow that we know now, the evil, power-hungry man. 😂
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
Thank you so much!! I totally agree with what you said! I can definitely see why people don't like it but dang I was shocked by how much hate it got online lol
@enchantedmrc02
@enchantedmrc02 4 года назад
Thank you for doing a good review! It's a bit sad seeing a LOT of negative reviews for this book before I got to read it but I finished it today (my copy came super late due to international shipping issues) and I absolutely loved it. It was definitely different and like you said, I get why people wouldn't like it. But I loved how Suzanne Collins managed to pull it off! It was amazing how she was able to show the disturbing stream of thoughts that Snow had and you could definitely connect the dots on how all those little details eventually turned him to the monster that he is. I definitely would love to see Sejanus and Lucy Gray's perspective, but I get why she chose to go with Snow on the entire book. It definitely made everything more chilling and provoked much more questions to the reader. Thank you again for doing this! It's an absolute joy for me when I discover people like you who are just as big a fan I am of the entire THG series because I feel like it's definitely underrated and it sucks because Suzanne Collins is amazing at not so subtly warning us of how we could eventually turn out like this. Please keep doing more THG videos when you feel like it!
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
I’m so glad you enjoyed this book as well! I loved reading your thoughts on it!
@estisochorcova977
@estisochorcova977 3 года назад
to the "right and wrong side", the biggest meaning about these books is that there isn't just good and evil and how even the good people can become corrupt as you can see at the end of the trilogy renewing the hunger games for the capitol kids and on the other side why were the games created due to the pain and horror the capitol went through
@LadyMsJay
@LadyMsJay Год назад
Your review is spot on. It’s wild how you can see him teetering between good/bad decisions and always chose chaos.
@Mooray27
@Mooray27 3 года назад
Having finally read this book I’d love to read a sequel to it told from the perspective of Tigress. She loved Coriolanus so much but by the end she helps the rebels with their assassination plot. That’s some trajectory, and that’s before you get into her time as a stylist and crazy appearance.
@andrea4liberation
@andrea4liberation 2 года назад
Also it's super interesting that people who eat animals use the same justification as Snow, "it's ok if we kill them as long as we give them a good life before."
@NayemasReads
@NayemasReads 4 года назад
I started a ballad of songbirds and snakes and i wasn’t loving it but this is making me want to continue!
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
If you continue the book, I hope you end up enjoying it!
@playerkit
@playerkit 3 года назад
I definitely enjoyed this book. I have read and reread the original trilogy countless times. The hate that this book has received is frustrating. There were multiple times while reading this book that I got literal chills (the hanging tree). I am happy to see this book getting a realistic review. So many youtube reviewers do not like this book because of what it ISN"T instead of what it IS.
@scarlettredding
@scarlettredding 3 года назад
Omg what you said about just picturing snow as Donald Sutherland the whole time, and you couldn't picture a young attractive guy, LOL same 😅
@elenarodriguez7809
@elenarodriguez7809 Год назад
Girl you are awesome. Loved your review. I agree with you! Also I felt like yes Snow didn't like that the tributes were treated like animals and definitely had a hand in treating them better. But I thought his thinking was like sheesh these kids have to die and get treated like garbage before hand. Lets at least feed clean them and cloth them before sending them to their deaths. Lets be a bit civilized before killing them. Its still sick but I do believe he meant for it to ease the pain. It also benefitted him because it made the tributes better fighters which made the games more watchable. It really suck seeing the tributes starving and injured even before the games.
@avawerner8937
@avawerner8937 4 года назад
I loved it too!!! 5 stars all the way!!
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
Yay!
@rissa3163
@rissa3163 3 года назад
Im so happy to find someone who actually likes the book and actually understands what it is about and comparing it to much to the main series
@tylerm3625
@tylerm3625 3 года назад
Fantastic book - part 3 was fast and thrilling, every chapter ended with a great moment which is what I've come to expect from the wonderful suzanne - I think the next potential could be the 1st Quell / 25th games as we know little to nothing about it
@ihavelemonade5640
@ihavelemonade5640 3 года назад
Coriolanus thinking about "What Tigris had to sell" and then feeling disgusted with himself in the first chapter pissed me off knowing what he'll grow up to do to the victors. Frick you. (By you i mean Snow obv)
@lizefrost1693
@lizefrost1693 4 года назад
i just love your books reviews so much bc you have the same mentality as me, thank you
@mlolvera91
@mlolvera91 11 месяцев назад
I think the reason I started reading the book was because someone said he was definitely in love with her, and i really wanted to know what she did to make him turn into the snow we knew in the original series, but now that I’m finished, he definitely did not love her. And even though the characters were unlikable, i think they were made that way on purpose. I liked getting to know more about this world and how it came to be. Though I wish we could have known more about the rebellion war too. That one that lead to the hunger games being presented.
@emily-dy5qz
@emily-dy5qz 4 года назад
i accidentally kind of imagined timothee as snow so you caught me off guard when you mentioned him LOL
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
Ahaha I’m dead 😂
@sergioestrada2244
@sergioestrada2244 4 года назад
I pictured him as I was reading 😂 and Zendaya as Tigris I dunno why
@sanayakhan2042
@sanayakhan2042 4 года назад
Omg me too! And you should check out this singer called Maiah Wynne who does covers she’ll be the perfect Lucy gray
@k.williams9256
@k.williams9256 3 года назад
ok this book was well written. I liked it. I just want to say Snow and Dr. Gual are made for each other. Both Soooo Evil. Snow's only thought was getting to the top of the mountain. He would, lie, cheat, and kill to get there. I loved the twist...Lucy Gray figured out Snow (aka Coryo) was the reason Sejanus died and she got the best of him. He hated that in the end. I hope she survived and later becomes katniss great great grandmother or something. I thought book ended well. If you hated Snow before you still will in the end. Great review on the book. I loved all the points you brought out. Good job! Collins did it again...i enjoyed it.
@fooyuening
@fooyuening 4 года назад
Just read the book and oh boy am I still in shock. Valid points were made, and you really got me thinking about some points I didn't even consider. Very comprehensive video.
@langsnek07
@langsnek07 Год назад
There should be a max mini series about pivotal hunger games I once considered writing the history of panem by plutarch heavensbee which writes a more broad picture of panem's history. In hg 1 the ground is broken for the original games but arena is barely constructed
@elenathegreat
@elenathegreat 4 года назад
FINALLY!!! I have been so excited to hear you speak about this book!! totally agree on why a johanna or haymitch book would have been relatively pointless.
@williamnissen5083
@williamnissen5083 4 года назад
Agreed and imo I can’t help but laugh at the people calling this book pointless and boring but clamour for a Haymitch or Finnick book ect I mean is the irony lost on them?
@jadenspops608
@jadenspops608 2 года назад
I love your room, would love a tour!!
@babyheartbaker
@babyheartbaker 2 года назад
I finished this book this morning and your views are 100% on point
@tulip5210
@tulip5210 Год назад
you know what, i'm so tired of negative reviews, so i'll subscribe to you and maybe my algorithm will be nicer x)
@andrea4liberation
@andrea4liberation 2 года назад
I honestly liked it too. Yeah, it was slower than the others but it was meant to fill us in on the world and it did. I loved seeing the connections between this time frame and Katniss'. Can't wait for the film and hopefully another book because I need to know what happened to Lucy!
@qilorar
@qilorar 4 года назад
yes! thank you! I really enjoyed the book and all the negativity it is receiving really hurts me, I want to hear possitives too, maybe people expected too much, I didn't care, just wanted to experience that universe in a fresh way (not rereading books) and it definetely was fresh, to see that Capital was not that rich, how they were affected by war, how it damaged Snow and really he could have turned out to be better person but expectations and pride pushed him forward the most, how not everything was polished from the start-so realistic. Lucy Gray even did't feel like damsel in distress, she knew how to use people but was still a real person to believe in others. Lots of great elements, inttresting storyline and the banging end. I agree, even if I would like to read othervtribute stories they would be quite repetitive without a glimer of hope. The only thing which got to me was loads of song lyrics, I could not find melody in my head so it didn't work, but a girl on youtube posted sang versions of the with a nice production and that definetely elevates reading experience! So if I would re-read the book I would play the songs at proper times and the experience would be so much more immersive. sorry for a long rant ::D
@xcsbooknook
@xcsbooknook 4 года назад
I loved it, its going to be in my top 10 of the year for sure
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads 4 года назад
same here!
@LeticiaOliveira-hz6ko
@LeticiaOliveira-hz6ko 4 года назад
I've loved the book and now I'm reading again. Maybe this sounds Crazy, but sometimes I think that Lucy manipulated Snow too. At least, I wanna believe that to feel better. Moreover, it's funny how his life is surrounded by women that changed his life, like: his mother, his grandmother, Tigris,Lucy Gray, Gaul and Katniss.
@kittyunderwood8918
@kittyunderwood8918 3 года назад
I was always thinking she was manipulating him too. Little things here and there were hints that she was, but I couldnt tell if that was because it was in Snow's point of view, or if she actually was. Also Billy does say to Snow something about her, or says "you'll see", I can't remember the exact quote, but then he still wants her back anyway, and based on her songs that was either lies, or he was mad cause she flirted (and more?) for money to feed them all, but it was okay for him to steal and gamble for money. And I at the end I actually thought she was trying to set him up and knew the guns were at the house before they went there
@marinaleal5084
@marinaleal5084 3 года назад
THANK YOU!!!! im honestly tired of watching people hating on a book i loved so much lmao i was getting pretty annoyed that nobody else liked it cuz i am really in love with this book and i LOVED the choice of character and specially the way suzanne developed him and the others as well. i love the way there are so many open ends for interpretation and theories but it still gives us a lead and not just leaves us in the dark. i loved how we learnt about the beginning of the hunger games, about the capitol (specially realizing that not everyone in the capitol loves the games or the violence), about the war and the affects on it on the capitol. for some reason i never really thought that the capitol also suffered a lot in the war and the civilians struggled with food, money, and stuff. AND YES SEJANUS DESERVED SO MUCH BETTERRRE I LOVE HIM anyways ranted a lot here lol i just really loved this book thank u so much for this video :))
@marinaleal5084
@marinaleal5084 3 года назад
oh and about the romance between lucy gray and snow... i heard this theory somewhere and i really thought it made sense. lucy gray may be as manipulative and strategic as snow. i mean, she was a tribute, about to die, and she had a mentor who was actually there willing to help her. she may have forged the romance just to get his help to stay alive in the arena. that justifies why billy taup mentions lucy was gonna run away with him and the others, why he says shes not the innocent girl she says she is. she mentions in the end to snow that she would never have the guts to run away by herself bc she was too scared, so that makes sense why she would want to enjoy the opportunity to run away with the rebels to get the company she needed to run away. since everyone died, she had nobody else to go with her - THEN she asked snow to run away with her. and probably she already knew she wanted to kill him before she asked him and she PLOTTED that - or she didnt wanna kill him at all and its all just his twisted mind i guess we'll never know. thats why i actually liked the way we didnt see her point of view and only got snow's: we see everything THROUGH his twisted mind and how HE sees things, leaving it open for our interpretation if the other characters were actually good or not. lucy gray may be just as bad as him and just put on an act of a good girl. billy taup may not be that bad after all and snow just sees him as a bad guy just out of jealousy. idk i just love reflecting about these stuff i actually liked that we only got to see his point of view of things
@tristan12037
@tristan12037 3 года назад
i feel like snow looked like draco malfoy when he was younger
@eleanorhall4040
@eleanorhall4040 4 года назад
I'm majorly late but did anyone else remember when Katniss mentioned that one year a kid was killed in the arena because he kept trying to eat his victims?? So I think Snow ordered him to be killed because he found cannibalism so disgusting
@ihavelemonade5640
@ihavelemonade5640 3 года назад
I went into the book prepared to hate snow no matter how much it tried to convince me to like him. It didn't try, though. Suzanne probably wanted us to hate him even more
@techeepeach9272
@techeepeach9272 Год назад
I agree with you. I read the book twice. When it first came out and again this week because the movie is coming out. I didn’t get the book the first time, I think I was looking for that trauma that would “change” snow and I didn’t see that. But this time, a completely different experience and I loved loved loved the book. Because this time I saw the philosophy angle along with the psychology of a person who is so power hungry and has no morals from early on. There is no “change” in the psychology or goals of snow. He just gets worst. He just dedicates himself more to his goals, and have even less morals. If at times he questioned himself, he stopped questioning!! This was just gold. Loved the book.
@PeytonReads
@PeytonReads Год назад
Love this analysis and I think you’re absolutely right!
@stephaniecabrera7939
@stephaniecabrera7939 3 года назад
GIRL YOU LITERALLY SPOKE ALL MY THOUGHTS! THANK YOU!
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