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'I'm a little stunned': Ta-Nehisi Coates responds to sharp backlash to 'The Message' 

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Acclaimed author Ta-Nehisi Coates has been on an unusual and controversial book tour. He has received significant media backlash for "The Message," a new collection of essays which include his reflections on a trip to the West Bank. MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin talks to Coates about his comparisons between the occupied Palestinian territory and the Jim Crow South.
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@pianodan10
@pianodan10 2 часа назад
“Wow, that was really racist” was my exact thought, but I didn’t think he’d immediately respond with that. That review is CRAZY.
@OkieDoke-mo1co
@OkieDoke-mo1co Час назад
It's unbelievable that the anchor could ask him that with a straight face... "Here's a list of blatantly racist remarks made about you - how do you respond?"
@robertcampomizzi7988
@robertcampomizzi7988 Час назад
Which part is racist? Be precise.
@montlejohnbojangles8937
@montlejohnbojangles8937 Час назад
@@robertcampomizzi7988 Hey guys I found the person who didn't understand colonialism
@pianodan10
@pianodan10 Час назад
@@robertcampomizzi7988 sure, let’s go with the part that is essentially, “he just hates Israel because black people couldn’t do what they did.” Precise enough?
@megavolt67
@megavolt67 Час назад
@@robertcampomizzi7988 The review asserts with no evidence that Ta-Nehisi is jealous that Jews were able to accomplish something blacks could not. That's what makes it racial. Then it used a fictional and extreme example (Wakanda) of what success would've looked like in an attempt to mock the apparent failure of himself and other blacks. That's what makes it racist.
@tash8308
@tash8308 Час назад
Ta-Nehisi Coates giving all journalists a lesson here. So happy to be getting his book soon.
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 Час назад
Wow, they carved out a place in the desert, where "nobody" else resided. Keep your head up Mr. Coates, sift through the hate.
@rygguy88888
@rygguy88888 30 минут назад
@@flame-sky7148 the UN sent a bipartisan committee to establish a potential partition plan including delegate from Iran. They unilaterally concluded that the majority of the land was impoverished, largely unpopulated nomadic type people and small shanty villages outside of a few major British centers . Go travel across Jordan that’s what it likely looked like in 1947 nothing changes
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 8 минут назад
it also sounds like they did that all on their own, but without the UN, the US and even the UK's help i doubt there would ever be now a state called Israel.
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 3 минуты назад
@@rygguy88888 I was going to travel to Petra a few years ago, when I lived in the UAE (so I'll check it out). The fact of matter is the British helped them starting with the British Balfour Declaration. Later the British divided the Palestinian and Jewish State. You don't have to divide something that is unpopulated. After WWII the British simply gave up due to the jewish hostility such as the Stern Gang, Irgun Zvai Leumi (National Military Organisation), Lohamey Heruth Israel There was the support system of Zionism, there never was a support system called Wakandism to allow blacks to settle in their own home.
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 24 секунды назад
@@kinngrimm Correct, thank you for your response.
@ninafonoroff14
@ninafonoroff14 2 часа назад
I'm so glad that Ta-Nehisi Coates, as always, succinct and on point, as always. I've enjoyed reading his previous books, and I'll read "The Message" as well. He's one of the clearest thinkers on these issues that I've heard.
@wanealy1
@wanealy1 Час назад
I love that he immediately called out the racism. Really grateful to him on this issue when so many elite commentators are afraid to tackle it.
@robertcampomizzi7988
@robertcampomizzi7988 Час назад
Which part was rhe racist part???
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 Час назад
@@robertcampomizzi7988 Well, you keep asking a bunch of people about how is it racist, not only is it racist, it's erroneous fabrication of history. First of all the jews didn't carve out a place all on their own. I think they got some military assistance by the West, unlike foundational black americans after slavery. But the racist part is this: Many other white men have written books about this very same situation, but only Coates book is getting this type criticism. So the criticism is the racism because he's only writing about what he witnessed. It's like if I were to visit South Africa in the 70's and write a book about it, the treatment of the blacks, then you have the audacity to criticize what I witnessed.
@Elphin89
@Elphin89 43 минуты назад
@@robertcampomizzi7988low brain power huh?
@antoa5825
@antoa5825 33 минуты назад
@@robertcampomizzi7988 You already got an answer the last time you asked.
@deadeaded
@deadeaded 29 минут назад
@@robertcampomizzi7988 The part where the reviewer said that Coates is just jealous because Black people are less civilized than Jewish people. The fact that you need that explained to you is also really concerning, by the way.
@t.k3025
@t.k3025 Час назад
Ta-Nehisi is brilliant. He understands humanity.
@chadgrabner4136
@chadgrabner4136 2 часа назад
Apartheid is the term
@HasnaaAlaa
@HasnaaAlaa 56 минут назад
Thank you, ayman for having mr coates on to talk about Palestine ❤
@TPaine76
@TPaine76 2 часа назад
It’s understandable but sad that Americans (including academics and “experts”) badly *need* to cling to the myth that “Persecuted Jews created an oasis of liberal democracy and industrialization in the middle of the desert - all by themselves - solely because they were “superior” to the “barbaric Arab savages” all around them. “ I mean it’s basically the same myth we told ourselves about America - before we started getting curious about Native Americans. I wish they would get more curious about the Palestinian side of the story instead of vacuously repeating talking points about “Israel’s right to defend itself”. What Israelis most need protection from isn’t terrorists - it’s a mirror.
@ethiopianmusicoldies599
@ethiopianmusicoldies599 Час назад
Yes, but let’s not forget the US supports everything Israel does and even finances it.
@alvildasophiaalegria800
@alvildasophiaalegria800 Час назад
I’m gonna buy the book now. I’m curious and yes what a racist commentary in that writing piece read at the beginning.
@celesteturner6912
@celesteturner6912 2 часа назад
I understand what Ta-Nehisi is saying about inclusiveness isn't a disclaimer against racism. Having black police officers in your local police department doesn't mean the department can't have policies that allow for profiling young black men. Many of them do have those policies.
@eldenringer6466
@eldenringer6466 Час назад
this is true so true.... but his lack of support for the pro democracy candiate is unaceeptable and will lead to him and his people and us all being deported or dead. He needs to take his head out of his own book and look arounnd at the clear and present dangers facing us all RIGHT NOW. And then when we win...we can revisit all of this.
@niloticnya
@niloticnya Час назад
Exactly why we say ACAB. Ex. Black men join the military bc they’re given less opportunities. They’re still extensions of imperialism in other countries.
@JohnDCrafton
@JohnDCrafton Час назад
sometimes racism is fueled by inclusiveness (see the blowback against DEI)
@Afriks-Yaw
@Afriks-Yaw 57 минут назад
During apartheid in South Africa, there were Blacks who were instruments of their own oppression. The gruesome thing is when they were caught, they were burned alive.
@Noreb
@Noreb 22 минуты назад
@@JohnDCrafton the "blowback" against DEI is a fabricated issue spoon fed to people which dont understand what it actually is..
@LifeOutsideTheBubble
@LifeOutsideTheBubble Час назад
I think the title is incorrect. He’s not a little stunned by backlash. He is a little stunned by a particularly racist review.
@vvblues
@vvblues Час назад
Heaven forbid anyone criticizes Israel.
@fontomfrom
@fontomfrom Час назад
Pride goes before a fall! It is a dangerous game they play! ‘The boy who cried wolf’
@hadamerryweather577
@hadamerryweather577 Час назад
Israel shows is might against the Islamic terrorist groups that run the countries surrounding it.
@mscarter624
@mscarter624 Час назад
Apparently Isreal can do no wrong, and the suggestion that it does is aNtIsEmEtIc 🫤
@cokkiekraaijeveld4617
@cokkiekraaijeveld4617 57 минут назад
Israël meaning Zionists indeed.
@peterlarson4985
@peterlarson4985 59 минут назад
there are black judges, congresspeople, mayors etc. Does that mean there is no discrimination in the US?
@Dbydesign1
@Dbydesign1 35 минут назад
Thank you brother Coats,....for not shying away from truth. Please!!! keep telling it like it is!!!!!
@MrTato1960
@MrTato1960 Час назад
Respect Ta-Nehisi,, well said ✊🏼👏🏻👏🏻
@ByronWoolley-x7t
@ByronWoolley-x7t 2 часа назад
Great researcher. He speaks moderately and with considerable clarity
@ethiopianmusicoldies599
@ethiopianmusicoldies599 Час назад
I am sure sure many US Jews agree with Coates, but are afraid to openly admit it. Coates just makes plain sense
@LordGreystoke
@LordGreystoke 32 минуты назад
Many U.S. Jews do not agree with Coates, not in the sense that Israel isn’t oppressing Arabs but more on how to arrive at a solution, other than the status quo.
@pcb462
@pcb462 38 минут назад
He’s just exposing the truth. He should expect this type of racism and slander. Keep up the righteous work Mr. Coates.
@chibakutensei8799
@chibakutensei8799 Час назад
That review would not fly if Coates wrote it and reversed it on her people. We would have congressional hearings about it
@AraBedrossian-y2w
@AraBedrossian-y2w 24 минуты назад
BIG TIME! You are right on!
@paxbd1991
@paxbd1991 42 минуты назад
The host failed basic journalistic standards and failed to impartially interview the author. Coates visited the occupied territories and wrote about the apartheid and racism that he saw firsthand. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and B'Tselem (Israel's largest human rights group) have all published reports detailing Israel's apartheid against Palestinians. The International Criminal Court of Justice also found Israel responsible for apartheid. Attacking Coates with his opinionated line of questioning and implying he was an extremist without disclosing his religious conversion and the fact his wife and kids live in Israel was deceptive
@ByronWoolley-x7t
@ByronWoolley-x7t 2 часа назад
This conversation made me begin to read Mr Coates works. He is very knowledgeable and a great reasear
@haitiancreolewithluciano
@haitiancreolewithluciano Час назад
Did you just fall asleep in the middle of spelling the word 'researcher'?
@ByronWoolley-x7t
@ByronWoolley-x7t 21 минуту назад
@@haitiancreolewithluciano Yes, I continued with the comment. Not asleep, just clumsy fingers.🙃😀
@ByronWoolley-x7t
@ByronWoolley-x7t 2 часа назад
All of the land occupied by Israel was brought about by the Balfour Declaration and guaranteed by Great Britain 🇬🇧. Included was the phrase, “Nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish persons. There were and are still many powerful political figures in Great Britain that claim the Jewish religion. The political pressure brought to bear on this idea of a Jewish state was from a powerful minority that wished to move the “Jewish Problem” outside of Great Britain. Once people started pouring into these lands, conflict inevitably began between the immigrants/settlers, the existing Population and the British troops there attempting to provide order. The “terrorists” including the soon to be “founders of Israel” began a dual campaign against the existing peoples AND the British troops.
@Annegeddeis
@Annegeddeis Час назад
God lead the jews to israel . He created that land for the descendants of Abraham. Many wars scattered the jews throughout the world and after ww2 the jews wanted to go home to israel , their God given land. So bal four was designed. Its nowhere near the big space it was in biblical times
@seanquinn2476
@seanquinn2476 Час назад
@@Annegeddeisthere is no evidence for a god, a 2k year old book holds no relevance.
@basicdraw2185
@basicdraw2185 Час назад
@@Annegeddeis Bros that's crazy. I can pull a fortune cookie that says my true home is in Israel. does that give me the right to fly to Israel and randomly take someones home? I mean...the fortune cookie told me, it must be fate it must be a biblical prophecy. and that's what you sound like btw
@ethiopianmusicoldies599
@ethiopianmusicoldies599 Час назад
@@AnnegeddeisI am sure you know Ishmael is also a descendant of Abraham. Also, you might have heard of the many mass conversions to Judaism during the Hashmonite Kingdom, the Khazars, in Yemen etc. Judaism is a religion many people converted to, and still convert to today
@milfordmkt
@milfordmkt 58 минут назад
Yeah, I recall Israeli defenders using the Balfour Declaration as some kind of legitimate pretext for Israel, as if Palestine, conquered by a colonial imperialist Britain, was Britains to give.
@ByronWoolley-x7t
@ByronWoolley-x7t Час назад
I believe American Citizens that are Jewish and have a strong affinity towards Israel should decide the America comes first. I will never support the US Government aid to Israel in fighting against any country weaker and less able to defend itself. Unfortunately that is a consideration that I had NOT THOUGHT OF prior to Vietnam and the first Gulf War. IF WE BELIEVE in our Declaration of Independence, The Constitution and The United Nations Declaration of Human Rights, how do we square our conscience with history. BEWARE ( this should be easy enough for a child to understand), Beware, if we ever lose our grip on leadership and power in this world, Some Nation or group of individuals will make us eat the Soap 🧼 that our Mothers constantly threatened to “wash our mouth out”, with. But sad to say, it will be much worse than that. Anyone or any Nation we have ever aggrieved will be waiting to serve us bitter fruits.
@747Cone
@747Cone Час назад
Took a while for Coates to get to this position but reading about it and experiencing it (as he did during his trip) are two different things. Regardless, at least he’s at the place he is now and as a “respected” voice of liberal thought he can explicate what others have been saying for decades.
@blicky_bobby
@blicky_bobby 2 часа назад
homegirl referenced wakanda i"m dead
@eliwoods5583
@eliwoods5583 Час назад
Younger people, aka the future, have been awakened to the plight of Palestinians thanks to Netanyahu and co. All the old cranks in the comments will be long gone by the time the youth get into power and start to change American policy towards Israel. I’ve been to Israel, and like many I was blinded by the lights of Tel Aviv and how westernized it was. I didn’t know the history nor the flagrant discrimination that exists there. Now I do. And so many more in my generation do.
@Matchiavelli
@Matchiavelli 2 часа назад
Ta-Nehisi Coates, you're a real one, welcome to the left.
@winstonsmith6607
@winstonsmith6607 Час назад
The dem's strategy: Lip service to P, but unending aid to I.
@antonomaseapophasis5142
@antonomaseapophasis5142 Час назад
Read, or RU-vid, John Mearsheimer for a full explanation of the quandry Biden, Harris, any US politician faces.
@HoraceWest-1
@HoraceWest-1 59 минут назад
Whats the Repub strategy? Any different?
@TheMoonKingdom
@TheMoonKingdom 12 минут назад
@@HoraceWest-1 That's an illogical response. Republicans being bad, doesn't absolve Democrats of being bad. People have the right to hold politicians in their own party to account. You can make your own choice, but I'm not voting for the continued slaughter of innocents.
@mission9195
@mission9195 8 минут назад
Lip service is not nothing. It creates a record, a narrative, a thread or web of logic that has presence and weight, eventually.
@vijayharilela3958
@vijayharilela3958 31 минуту назад
Call out all the Israeli lies. Mr. Coates, whistleblowers like you should be celebrated.
@dadigan5117
@dadigan5117 48 минут назад
Great interview and way to go Ta-Nehisi for hitting a nerve that needs to be hit ... repeatedly. Love the show Ayman and wish you had taken over for Rachel.
@Wegivesp
@Wegivesp 15 минут назад
My respect grows for this author with every interview. Wow with every blow he triumphs.
@judea5340
@judea5340 36 минут назад
Yeah that was really racist.
@faridamazhar5114
@faridamazhar5114 48 минут назад
Bravo Na tehisi!
@Jungler77
@Jungler77 53 минуты назад
Ten minutes is such an incredibly inadequate chunk of time to ask him to respond to such wild criticisms of his work on such a controversial issue.
@magnusskallagrimsson6707
@magnusskallagrimsson6707 23 минуты назад
Wow. That quote is so loaded. Gobsmacked.
@faridamazhar5114
@faridamazhar5114 49 минут назад
Israel does not have the right to exist by grabbing other people’s Land which is continuing to this day! How ignorant are the critics of the writer.
@vivahernando1
@vivahernando1 41 минуту назад
the issue is the land has been grabbed already so it is about getting social cohesion in the area
@levmoses742
@levmoses742 Час назад
Thanks!
@LeslieLarsen
@LeslieLarsen 19 минут назад
Thank you Ta-Nehisi Coates you are speaking to the heart of the issue that has allowed racists apartheid in all its forms to exist. Ayman, why blindside with a negative shallow review when you are interviewing with an amazing author?
@pamparker4047
@pamparker4047 3 минуты назад
Anytime you speak the truth, this is to be expected.❤❤❤❤
@kenzarobinson9049
@kenzarobinson9049 36 минут назад
Why does the truth hurt so much when it comes to light !!?? ❤🇵🇸
@RealLoveHandles
@RealLoveHandles 22 минуты назад
It’s like the dude blindsided Ta-Nehisi at the start of the interview and he never fully recovered
@HJ-pm2dx
@HJ-pm2dx 2 минуты назад
A way to identify false righteousness is to observe the react to criticism. Righteous people will stop to consider if there is validity to the criticism. A nation's people deserve peace and security. A nation's job is to ask, is this government providing that peace.
@mkl4324-d9o
@mkl4324-d9o 30 минут назад
Coates talking about how "words don't mean what they plainly mean", that's rich
@edwardspriggs5076
@edwardspriggs5076 Час назад
Ta-Nehisi Coates is completely correct about his experience in Israel. Keep in mind that he is also from a people, who understands Oppression, Slavery, Massacres, Homelessness, Injustice, Apartheid, Racism, Jim Crow,, Racial Profiling and Inequality. I believe everyone has a right to exist by a 2 state solution and peace can never be for one and not for the other. The world sees that no hands are clean and that is a fact. However, when you look at the deaths of 15 thousand innocent Palestinian children, there is no excuse to justify that and it is certainly a crime against humanity. I'm also a Zionist and believe in the Jewish State but also believe in a Palestinian State with the same rights and privileges. Lets be honest, this war is way beyond terrorism ( from both sides), its really about racism and the wrongful taking of more Palestinian land. We are all God's equal children whom he loves and if anyone can't practice the Golden Rule, then they don't know him.
@bryanmurray9846
@bryanmurray9846 Час назад
Amazing human.
@Jen_ell
@Jen_ell 7 минут назад
10:02 is the question and answer I have been grappling with. There is something much bigger happening here. It's not merely aligning with an ally. There is more underneath this war that hasn't been unearthed, but we will eventually learn what it is.
@vvevv88
@vvevv88 12 минут назад
Thanks for having him on but those were some garbage questions. You framed the interview as impartial, then proceeded to verbally wag your finger at him.
@dvoravithanovsky6902
@dvoravithanovsky6902 29 минут назад
How the pain wervofvisrsrli propaganda and its allies undermine justice, truth, and humanity. Coated deserve the Pulitzer prize for this book
@mitchmitchell9588
@mitchmitchell9588 26 минут назад
It was not cool to blindside Mr Coates with that so-called book review, which does not qualify as constructive criticism. You recirculated inflammatory nonsense that was best left where it was…unread.
@anshuraj4277
@anshuraj4277 56 минут назад
Nationalism is a good thing
@basicdraw2185
@basicdraw2185 Час назад
Yeah I would have the same reaction to that article if I read that too. who wrote that and thought "yeah this is sooo good ain't no way that "Humus" supporter can spin this" and btw no, Tnc isn't but I assume the guy writing that probably thinks so because that's what all pro zip people think
@faridamazhar5114
@faridamazhar5114 47 минут назад
Ta- Nehasi.
@zenobiajudd-williams9072
@zenobiajudd-williams9072 Час назад
The comments have nothing to do with the interview!
@nakana149
@nakana149 56 минут назад
A guy writes a book about Israel based on his experience in the West Bank. A book about ISRAEL based on his experience in the West Bank. Absolutely filled with bias and disinformation. And everyone applauds him.
@soso2447
@soso2447 32 минуты назад
It’s what he experienced. Who are you to say otherwise?
@prospros54fiftyfour67
@prospros54fiftyfour67 30 минут назад
Why should he not be applauded for writing a clear succinct text that exposes the evil of Israeli apartheid kept alive with our tax dollars.
@adrienneweller5641
@adrienneweller5641 57 минут назад
It is unfortunate that Coates doesn't want to talk about capitalism, because capitalism is the root cause of oppression. He does a great job however.
@vivahernando1
@vivahernando1 54 минуты назад
Another person can articulate that. That needs to be an argument made by an economist it seems which Coates isn’t. Why is that on Coates?
@connormcleod9595
@connormcleod9595 26 минут назад
Free Palestine
@Brendavy1no
@Brendavy1no 15 минут назад
this host is so out of line - reading that stunningly racist review piece without forewarning Ta-Nehisi Coates is really low. I don't watch this show and only turned into this YT segment because I saw Mr. Coates was on- I would not ever watch this host or his show ever- who does this? @msnbc has fallen so low.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 Час назад
"It’s outrageous that Coates portrays Israel as an oppressor when it’s the only Jewish country in the world offering full rights to minorities, including Arabs, Christians, and Druze. His narrative twists the truth."
@Afriks-Yaw
@Afriks-Yaw 54 минуты назад
Coming from a people who mistreat the Ethiopian Jews, arguably, the very people with direct connections with ancient Israel. Israel has always been a European colonial project.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 Час назад
"The truth is, Israel is the only country in the Middle East that grants equal rights to women, LGBTQ individuals, and religious minorities. Coates’ portrayal of Israel as an oppressor is completely false and rooted in political bias."
@prospros54fiftyfour67
@prospros54fiftyfour67 32 минуты назад
All you stated still does not make Isreal not a racist segregated apartheiid state that is kept alive by our tax dollars.
@leahashcroft9547
@leahashcroft9547 Час назад
So a woman can do it too?
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 57 минут назад
"In his book, Coates pushes a false comparison between Israel and apartheid. The reality is that Israeli Arabs have the same civil rights as Jews, including the right to vote and hold public office. Israel is not an apartheid state-it’s a diverse democracy."
@prospros54fiftyfour67
@prospros54fiftyfour67 34 минуты назад
You keep repeating debunked lies. Even Carter, yes the former president called what he saw in Isreal full blown apartheid
@rygguy88888
@rygguy88888 54 минуты назад
This guy is no different than me or anyone writing comments on RU-vid writing a book. He’s not a historian , scholar or academic his approach solves and answers nothing
@Afriks-Yaw
@Afriks-Yaw 48 минут назад
Despicable liar! You are scared the truth is coming out.
@rygguy88888
@rygguy88888 44 минуты назад
@@Afriks-Yaw USA gives unrwa billions over the years all that money went to waste , give Palestinians a state it will look like Syria , Jordan, Lebanon , Egypt. Dictatorships with world lowest standards of living …
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 58 минут назад
"The apartheid label Coates uses in his book completely ignores the facts: Israeli Arabs are full citizens who hold key positions in government and society. Their rights are protected under Israeli law, unlike what he claims."
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 57 минут назад
"By labeling Israel an apartheid state, Coates overlooks the fact that Israeli Arabs participate in every aspect of Israeli society, from healthcare to education to government. Israel’s diversity and democracy contradict his claims."
@Afriks-Yaw
@Afriks-Yaw 49 минут назад
Don't insult our intelligence. French colonialism of assimilation had Africans in the French parliament while their own people were seen as sub-humans.
@prospros54fiftyfour67
@prospros54fiftyfour67 36 минут назад
Did you here Mr. Coates redpond or you are lacking in English compression or you jare just a wanna protect racism person?
@MMAli-rq8kd
@MMAli-rq8kd 15 минут назад
That is no different from saying "black slave participated in every aspect of life in America" or "black people participated in every aspect of life in apartheid South Africa". That is deceptive phrasing is on purpose. The bottom line is that they don't have equal rights; they can't even use the same roads as Jewish Israelis.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 59 минут назад
"Coates’ comparison of Israel to apartheid South Africa is a false equivalence. In Israel, Arabs have the same legal rights as Jews, including the right to vote, run for office, and serve in the judiciary. This is far from the segregation of apartheid
@DerangedLib
@DerangedLib 2 часа назад
So why is Kamala still tied and even losing in some states? 😂
@walterbo7687
@walterbo7687 2 часа назад
Because a lot of Americans are in a cult believing a con man
@erinlevere6881
@erinlevere6881 2 часа назад
There are racist in this country who didn’t like it the first time a person of color was president and they don’t want it again
@bernadettebraganza2874
@bernadettebraganza2874 2 часа назад
Go away and take Trump with you please 🙏
@DerangedLib
@DerangedLib 2 часа назад
@@bernadettebraganza2874💙❄️💧😿 🤣
@CourtneyHaynes
@CourtneyHaynes 2 часа назад
Because much of the country is racist.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 59 минут назад
"Coates ignores the historical context in his portrayal of Israel. Israel has deep historical and legal ties to the land, and it continues to offer peace deals to Palestinians, who have consistently rejected them. His narrative is one-sided and misleading."
@ronbechky1976
@ronbechky1976 Час назад
So little understanding of the history of Israel based on a brief visit to Israel without working with Israelis other than those who are severe critics of Israel. For example he totally misunderstands the legal system which applies equally to all while international law requires occupation in the West Bank to be under martial law.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 53 минуты назад
Coates' Propaganda: Coates often refers to Israel as an occupying power, suggesting that Israel illegally occupies Palestinian land. Fact: The term “occupation” is often misused to suggest Israel has no right to be in the disputed territories. However, Israel's presence in the West Bank is the result of defensive wars, such as the 1967 Six-Day War, when Israel was attacked by surrounding Arab nations. The territories are legally considered disputed, not occupied, and Israel has made numerous offers to negotiate a two-state solution. The Palestinian leadership has rejected these offers multiple times.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 Час назад
In his attacks on Israel, Coates ignores that it’s the only Jewish homeland, established to protect Jewish people from persecution. Israel defends itself from threats, not as an oppressor, but as a nation that values equality for all its citizens."
@prospros54fiftyfour67
@prospros54fiftyfour67 26 минут назад
The falsity again. Israel does not defend itself. We the US tax payers have been defending Israel.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 53 минуты назад
Coates' Propaganda: In Coates’ writing, the deep historical and indigenous connection of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is often ignored or downplayed, painting the Jewish return to Israel as colonialism. Fact: The Jewish people have had a continuous presence in the land of Israel for over 3,000 years. The modern state of Israel was established as a national homeland for the Jewish people, based on historical, cultural, and religious ties to the land. Unlike colonial powers, Jews did not “colonize” the land but returned to their ancestral home after centuries of persecution and exile.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 58 минут назад
"Coates pushes the false narrative that Israel is an 'occupier,' but the facts show that Israel has legal and historical claims to the land. It has made several peace offers, which Palestinian leaders have consistently rejected. This isn't occupation-it's a quest for peace."
@soso2447
@soso2447 30 минут назад
They had deeds?
@antoa5825
@antoa5825 25 минут назад
Oh that's right, "the magical book" said the land was theirs, duh. Why don't we all pull out our magical books and claim everyone else's territory?
@Alethya143
@Alethya143 Час назад
Sorry, but Coates is in my view, a smug, pseudo intellectual who fancies himself as a successor to the truly great James Baldwin. He sees racism in everyone (except himself, of course) and everything. That diminishes the serious issue of racism because he so badly overplays it.
@Afriks-Yaw
@Afriks-Yaw 46 минут назад
Nonsense!
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 58 минут назад
"Coates’ anti-Israel rhetoric in his book is built on selective facts and misleading comparisons. The reality is that Israel is a democracy where all citizens, regardless of ethnicity, have equal rights under the law. His narrative doesn’t reflect this."
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 52 минуты назад
Coates' Propaganda: Coates often frames Israel as a colonial entity, suggesting that the Jewish state is a result of European colonization. Fact: This is a false narrative. Jews have always had a presence in the land of Israel, long before modern European colonization. The Jewish return to Israel was driven by the desire to re-establish a homeland in their ancestral territory after centuries of persecution and exile. The comparison to European colonialism is not only inaccurate but also offensive, as it denies the Jewish people's historic and indigenous connection to the land.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 56 минут назад
"Coates misrepresents Israel's security measures in his book, failing to acknowledge the constant threats from terrorist groups. Israel’s security presence is meant to protect all its citizens-Jews and Arabs alike-from violence, not to discriminate."
@sylphentrill
@sylphentrill Час назад
For an 'intellectual', he sure doesn't know how to contextualise his ideas. Not a word on the Levant as the historic seat of Judaism and the fact Zionists bought most of the land through absent landowners. I am sure he is very comfortable the fact Jews have historically been subject to slavery far longer than any ethnic community in history. But of course, none of this matters if we are talking about Jews. Always framed as bad, always framed as the worst perpetrators of the world's ills. Nothing new to see here.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 57 минут назад
"The idea of Israel as an occupier, as Coates suggests in his book, is a distortion of reality. The territories are disputed, and Israel has repeatedly sought peaceful resolutions, only to face rejection and violence from Palestinian leaders."
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 Час назад
"Coates’ attacks on Israel fail to acknowledge its role as the only Jewish state, established to protect Jews from persecution, while offering democracy and equality to all its citizens. His claims are baseless."
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 58 минут назад
"Coates completely ignores the fact that Israel has made numerous peace offers, all rejected by Palestinian leadership. The narrative he promotes in his book leaves out the context of Israel's repeated attempts to reach a two-state solution."
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 59 минут назад
"The idea that Israel is an 'occupying' state is a myth Coates perpetuates in his book. The land is disputed, not illegally occupied, and Israel has repeatedly sought peace through negotiations, all rejected by Palestinian leaders."
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 Час назад
"Coates’ one-sided claims fail to mention that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East where Jewish and Arab citizens vote, serve in government, and are equal under the law. His rhetoric doesn’t align with the facts."
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 53 минуты назад
Coates' Propaganda: Coates suggests that Israel systematically discriminates against its Arab population and Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza. Fact: Israeli Arabs have the same legal rights as Jewish citizens, including access to education, healthcare, employment, and political representation. In contrast, the Palestinian Authority and Hamas govern parts of the West Bank and Gaza, respectively, and are often responsible for the difficult living conditions in these areas due to corruption, human rights abuses, and lack of infrastructure investment.
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 59 минут назад
"In his book, Coates misrepresents Israel's security measures as discriminatory. The truth is, these measures are in place to protect all citizens from terrorism, not to target any group based on ethnicity. Security is not discrimination
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 59 минут назад
"Coates claims Israel is an apartheid state, yet he fails to mention that Israeli Arabs serve as Supreme Court judges, parliament members, and doctors. The apartheid label is not only inaccurate but a deliberate distortion of reality."
@prospros54fiftyfour67
@prospros54fiftyfour67 23 минуты назад
All you have mentioned does not Israel not an apartheid state. Did you listen to the discussion at all or just trying to justify your genocidal Zionism with strawman argument?
@MelaninisaSemiConductor
@MelaninisaSemiConductor Час назад
I believe Coates may have ended his career, many professionals know the real conditions in Isreal.but keep quiet..If they allow him to go on without discrediting him in some way, then more people will believe Coates and demand change. South Africa has taken Isreal to court for Apartheid in Isreal. That has done nothing, only the US can force isreal to end Apartheid..Maybe this can be included in some future peace deal.
@rafiqtsm1451
@rafiqtsm1451 Час назад
His career is only done if we don’t support him
@markstein7905
@markstein7905 Час назад
"Coates accuses Israel of apartheid, yet he ignores that Israel is the only Jewish state in the world and a democracy where Arab citizens serve as judges and lawmakers. His propaganda is far from the truth."
@prospros54fiftyfour67
@prospros54fiftyfour67 27 минут назад
They are multiple ethnicitis and religions that do not have their own state and being the only Jewish state makes apatheid and genocide of Palestinians right?
@JustinOldman-y4h
@JustinOldman-y4h 2 часа назад
I want to thank MSDNC for helping Trump get Elected
@Noreb
@Noreb 2 часа назад
and then you woke up.
@walterbo7687
@walterbo7687 2 часа назад
Trump will lose again by a landslide
@LT-em1vu
@LT-em1vu 2 часа назад
Their lies will help him win.
@Noreb
@Noreb 2 часа назад
@@LT-em1vu what lies would those be?
@eliwoods5583
@eliwoods5583 Час назад
Another right winger manufacturing likes in the comments to garner fake support. I’m sure you’re a Russian bot who convinces the uneducated trumpers that the Dems direct hurricanes to red states.
@Noneofyourbusiness-pf8xp
@Noneofyourbusiness-pf8xp 14 минут назад
Colonization is populating a foreign soil, by force or otherwise. Israel is native to the land. Arab citizens of Israel are not discriminated against, but Arabs, that are not citizens, do not have the same rights. Drawing parallels to Black experience is just lazy, there are none. The whole book is just convoluted and sloppy garbage in pursuit of sales and should be ignored. Stay in your arena of racial panhandling(reparations)
@vivahernando1
@vivahernando1 2 минуты назад
How do you prove the current people in Israel are the descendants of the people you say were native to the land? Also do you support the right of return of the Native Americans to all of the United States?
@whydahpeople4005
@whydahpeople4005 Час назад
Rev 3: 9 Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie-indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
@GreenviewStudioGallery
@GreenviewStudioGallery 2 часа назад
Mr. Coates you are an outsider looking in. You need to sit down with Jewish people, especially the older ones, with a foot in their ancestors country and a foot here and hear it from them rather than cherry pick and write a critique on an ancient civilization and how they run their society now. Why does this bother you so bad? Why did you even write this book? SMH
@Kookie-m6p
@Kookie-m6p 2 часа назад
Ummm no
@Kookie-m6p
@Kookie-m6p 2 часа назад
Womp womp cry
@Elnegro19751
@Elnegro19751 2 часа назад
No. Apartheid and genocide are pretty clear
@bensonchannel8676
@bensonchannel8676 2 часа назад
You could say the same about Black Americans
@MelaninisaSemiConductor
@MelaninisaSemiConductor 2 часа назад
He went to Isreal..
@eldenringer6466
@eldenringer6466 Час назад
ISRAEL has gone way too far but they were attacked and are attacked and have a right to defend themselves. The problem is the Israili leadership as much as the need to destroy hamas.
@HazelWorldwide
@HazelWorldwide Час назад
Defend themselves against the people they occupy?? Because self defence as a state only makes sense against another sovereign state; something they’ve blocked for Palestinians for 8 decades now. There is no way you’re this dense
@robertcampomizzi7988
@robertcampomizzi7988 Час назад
He went to a place where he doesn't know the history and assumed that the effect was the cause and now wants to act like an expert. Why would anyone take his opinion on this particular matter seriously??? He admitted he was biased on this subject in that very interview. He isn't looking at it objectively.
@desertezz
@desertezz Час назад
what history would justify Jim Crow and apartheid...
@robertcampomizzi7988
@robertcampomizzi7988 Час назад
@desertezz 1: why didn't you answer my question? 2: on Nov 30 1947 the Fajja Bus Attacks took place against jews. Then in Jan 1947 the Arab Liberation Army tried to drive the Jews into the sea. So.... the Jews didn't start the war... soo..... 3: Kahled Kabub is on is a Supreme Court Judge in Israel. I reject the premise that it is apartheid state. He sent a Jewish PM to jail. That doesn't happen in aparthied states. That is what thinking people call "proof by contradiction."
@fontomfrom
@fontomfrom Час назад
What would be the objective viewpoint?
@desertezz
@desertezz Час назад
@@robertcampomizzi7988 lol thats like saying the Native Americans in the US started the war when they fought against their displacement and colonization.
@robertcampomizzi7988
@robertcampomizzi7988 Час назад
@desertezz nope. It's not. There were already jews living there LEGALLY on 1914. So no. It is not an apt comparison.
@luhsprwhk
@luhsprwhk 2 часа назад
LOL
@DarthSaiIorMoo
@DarthSaiIorMoo 2 часа назад
You’re either one of two kinds of people 1) sane and employed and voting for trump or 2) mentally ill, unemployed and voting for harris
@Matchiavelli
@Matchiavelli 2 часа назад
*shrugs in third party*
@Annegeddeis
@Annegeddeis Час назад
Who in their right mind would vote for a person that says he will be a dictator on day one ?
@trouserarmadillo8616
@trouserarmadillo8616 Час назад
It will be awesome when we don’t have to hear from Coates anymore. I guess the interviewer forgot that certain Americans have to be treated with kid gloves. Regardless of one’s feelings about the quote that is “really racist,” it does have merit. What country in Africa takes people from all over the world, of every color, and has such a high standard of living?
@HazelWorldwide
@HazelWorldwide Час назад
The only ones who have to be treated with kid gloves are the zionists who cry foul every time their poisonous ideology is called into question. They’re always calling, writing, or pressuring the world into bending to their will. Get a grip
@DavidJ2222
@DavidJ2222 2 часа назад
Thank you wyoming voters for taking out the Cheney trash
@Noreb
@Noreb 2 часа назад
thank you maga for destroying the republican party.
@adelezakus4795
@adelezakus4795 Час назад
Anything but standard talk. So journalism has become standard talk. Wow I guess you’re not a journalist. Journalism is about asking the hard questions whether you agree with the journalist or not you have the right to answer them and give your side. I don’t believe that anybody can know of people in a history of a country by going and visiting it for 10 days. I don’t believe it’s fair journalism if you only pick and choose what you’re going to write about and throw the rest away. Coming back on MSNBC, which is totally antisemitic except for one person doesn’t seem like this is journalism at all except a soft interview. I am Canadian and I stand with Israel.
@Annegeddeis
@Annegeddeis 2 часа назад
You must not believe in God. Genesis 15:18 . God lead Abrahams people the jews to His promised land Canan (ancient day). that is present day Israel.
@riiraa881
@riiraa881 Час назад
So some people from Europa can claim to be the Jews of 5000 years ago and do horrible things and that's OK? That's why so many people don't bother with religion anymore. How is god any different from the devil when he allows his people to do all manner of evil?
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