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I'm done with architecture 9 to 5's (I quit my job) 

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I finally did it. I jumped out of the hamster wheel.
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@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
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@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
If you go into architecture as a profession and don't expect hard work and long hours and pay below other professions please leave now. You can survive those negatives, but your life will not be your own. I was an architect for 45 years. The work never got easier and the hours never got fewer. The pay did get better, but I remained a lower paid professional. If I didn't love what I was doing, I would have exited early in my career. I have been retired now for about 17 years and live a much more enjoyable life then when I was working. If I hadn't made good decisions about how to invest the money that I made (without trying to "beat the market") I would be a bitter man. Computers were just making their entry to the production of working drawings when I graduated from college. I was one of the last "pencil pushing" architects around. I loved drawing on a drawing board with my pencil. I could, and did, work into the nights to get the jobs finished, bid and built. I loved doing it. I did take time off for vacations every year, but they were short and the work I left behind was still there to greet me when I returned. I enjoyed writing specifications that governed how the project that I designed would be built. Call me crazy, but it was what I enjoyed doing. I regret the toll it took on my family, but the family survived. Would I do it again. Yes and no. I would do it differently if I were to repeat the task. I would be a sole practitioner rather than a corporate slave. I would satisfy myself with fewer projects and less money but I would have a life outside of the office. I would spend more time with my wife and child and I would not chase the work while answering to a "superior" (who often times could not and would not have done what I did to enrich him) for the amount of work it took to keep the corporate ship afloat. The practice of architecture has changed greatly from when I started to what it is today. Knowing what I know from my experience I probably would choose another line of work.
@nihilistarchitect
@nihilistarchitect 11 месяцев назад
I am 48 and I regret my choice almost every day. I am still far from financial independence and I feel stuck. The bad thing about it is that I am not good at it either. It’s unbelievable how one decision at 18 years old can have such an impact in one’s life. I hope you are doing well and enjoying your life these days.
@grandmasterplank
@grandmasterplank 2 года назад
On top of everything Mooch has said, I'd add these in too as some of the worst things about being in architectural practice more generally (sorry, I'm now battle scared and worn down): 1. being massively underpaid for a role that requires an (inexplicable) amount of academic training to qualify for. 2. having to deal with and sort out the issues of the bone idle/incompetent/careless idiots in your office. 3. your health suffering from sitting in the same physical position for days/weeks/months at a time to get work out (see point 2). 4. the stress of the (inexplicable) Friday deadline - when no one looks at your drawings until the following week and your weekend is then ruined by the recovery from the stress of the last week. 5. your relationships suffering from the amount of (unpaid) extra time required to finish projects and thus being stuck in the office (think seeing your wife/husband/kids after they've eaten in an evening, or often after they have gone to bed). And often working weekends (see point 2). 6. the amount of unpaid extra time you're required to donate to the practice solely to complete the work to a high standard (see point 2). Worse still, this happening because that extra time wasn't factored into the original fee quote, on EVERY project, so you won't get any financial benefit from that extra work. Remember, you're gifting this time to your boss and his profits, no one else, the client still pays the same agreed amount. 7. having to tolerate other Architects (and their egos) who think, simply because they're an architect, they know more than everyone else, no matter what that persons level of experience and/or specialism. 8. having to listen to archispeak from other architects who think they're still in school, and talk like this in an attempt to raise themselves above everyone around them, solely because they think they're genuinely better then everyone else (see point 7), and which they're usually not, and sometimes by a margin. 9. having to deal with interior designers who think they're architects, and who (especially on domestic projects) have the ear of the client (think nice evening house visits armed with mood boards) and who'll try and drive a coach and horses through your design vision. 10. watching your long-developed final design have its guts ripped out through value-engineering (think contactors who care not one bit about your design and only about maximising profits, at your designs' expense). 11. realising the ONLY way to make any real money or have a major impact on the built environment you're designing for is to work for yourself because working for someone else means you have almost zero final say on design (which is sole destroying), and then they also reap all the rewards. 12. having to tolerate others with less skill and ability than you stealing your ideas and taking credit for them (see above). Oh, and having to often take instruction from the same individuals because they're more skilled at office politics and better at brown-nosing for promotion, or possibly they have no shame or less self respect. ........there are many more but that's probably enough. If you're lucky enough to find an architectural utopia then you're lucky (and go put your lottery numbers on) as you may only experience some of these issues. But for most, these sorts of issues are very regular occurrences.
@sensei_poo
@sensei_poo 2 года назад
I was lucky enough to see all this behaviour and madness during my internship
@LeonSKennedy7777
@LeonSKennedy7777 Год назад
Your comment is highly insightful. Thank you. As someone from the business field, many of your complaints are similar to all sorts of industries, though with a few points specific to architecture which I never conceived of. Grinding years away in a typical office is hell.
@sheilamiyienda6083
@sheilamiyienda6083 Год назад
If this ain't it!!🎯
@Moochers
@Moochers Год назад
😎
@raduteodorpetrica2344
@raduteodorpetrica2344 Год назад
That's just so spot on!
@bi_himself
@bi_himself 3 года назад
Me right now at 17 seeing this video has enlightened me. I want to become an interior designer/ architect. And one day have my own firm. I now hear this and I want to implement your ideas into my future firm.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Awesome! Happy to hear that. Good luck :D!
@spiriitualminded
@spiriitualminded 3 года назад
Hey same!! My first yr in college was good! Studying “interior architecture design” GO FOR IT
@davidpachecogarcia
@davidpachecogarcia 2 года назад
Def try to take business classes while in school.
@i0x_x0i
@i0x_x0i Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@miltonwelch4177
@miltonwelch4177 Год назад
How's your dad's bank account? You will need it.
@ericabgomesfreire
@ericabgomesfreire 3 года назад
This year I realized that I don't really want to be on 8 to 6 hour office work, and unfortunately it is the most common type of job in my city, now I'm focusing on finish my final project and see what I can do to not have to be chained to a desk in front of autocad 8 hours per day. A bit utopic but we make do... All the luck and success for you in your new schedule and job!
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Thank you I really appreciate it ! I used to think it would not be possible but i promise you it is. Hang in there. Much luck to you!
@feonix138
@feonix138 3 года назад
I've been freelancing since 2003. It afforded me the ability to work at home and raise my kids. I usually wake up around 3-4am and put 6 hours in and then put in a few more hours here and there. I work weekends when I need to. I feel very fortunate to have been able to do this for the past 18 years.
@Moochers
@Moochers 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing!
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
I think you have discovered the secret to a successful practice even if you are not at the top of the income pyramit.
@MarshallWarner
@MarshallWarner 3 года назад
I feel you, I quit my job last year, and me and my architect wife are battling throught it, but happy. : )
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Good luck to you and your wife. Isn't it awesome not having a 9 to 5 ?
@MarshallWarner
@MarshallWarner 3 года назад
@@Moochers Awesome!!
@saifsvideos
@saifsvideos 2 года назад
Hey, I saw your comment & wanted to know how are things going; quitting architecture? I too think about quitting this career in the near future & any advice / tips would help. Thanks
@sensei_poo
@sensei_poo 2 года назад
Hello, i m still doing undergrad but felt all miserable during my internship period itself. Any suggestions which career to go for
@Gusbus001
@Gusbus001 3 года назад
I’ve been freelancing for over a year. Best decision I’ve ever made.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Hell yea!!!! That's awesome. Glad to hear that.
@Habibiears
@Habibiears 3 года назад
I hope get the way you are mate!. Still tryin' to find my first client.. 💥😅
@spiriitualminded
@spiriitualminded 3 года назад
AWESOME
@grandmasterplank
@grandmasterplank 2 года назад
You're spot on. Everything you've said is true of architectural practice. And none of this is explained to students at Architectural School (because it would horrify them) so subsequently many become quickly disillusioned when they realise the reality on the ground. If architectural school was less about bullshit archispeak theory that no one in the 'real world' (sorry) ever uses outside of academia (and for good reason or we'd never build anything) and was more about prepping students for the realities of working architectural life then the profession would function so much better.......you could also have added comment on the generally appalling level of salary offered to anyone below director level in practice, despite the almost insane amount of time/effort/commitment/financial outlay required to qualify. When freelancing you have so much more scope to increase your income, or increase your free time, if that's of more value to you. Respect for making the leap though. I did the same many years ago, well before it became the norm to work remotely thanks to Covid. I made some comments on a similar video earlier this week. I'll post them up here too for anyone interested.
@purrsolus
@purrsolus 3 года назад
Industrial design student here and about to pull an all nighter for a project, which I'm sure you can relate to. Freelancing has always been the dream, but the more I think about it the scarier the reality of it seems. Can't wait to hear what you have to say about your experiences and how it works! Best wishes to you man.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Def. remember those days. They were...... tough. I will be covering this topic extensively in the coming weeks. I recommend you start considering freelancing now. At least start looking for temp jobs in the field and meeting others who can help you in the future!
@DrFaggioni
@DrFaggioni 2 года назад
Im an architect, graduated 1 year ago, always worked as a sailor beside to sponsor the university. I can totaly understand you!!! The thing is, this major is one of the hardest, not in terms of intelligence, but the amount of time you need for all the tasks. And it is the degree with the lowest ROI in comparison to the other majors. Even a normal construction worker gets a higher salary, but you have to work more and you are always responsible for everything. And when i think about all the hours you have to spend on certain projects, and the always complaining clients... This degree is not worth it, it's a dying profession. It's also frustrating when you see your friends and other people which put in half of the work in their education and have a much better and stresless life. I can also see that most of my colleagues except a few are changing their profession... You don't need to study to build something, you just need money :D The only positive about this degree is that it is transferable, you may have to do some additional courses for some jobs but this is not so bad. Sorry for the long post, but this is for the young fellows... Internet is the real thing... or sailing ;) :D
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
AI will eventually (sooner rather than later) reduce the need for human architects. When it has been perfected, a talented high school graduate with above average savvy will be able to produce documents with less time and expense that a roomfull of college graduates - IF the governmental ovesight is modified to stop eliminating those naturally talented people from getting their license to practice based on an "all day" or "several day exam" that is administered by a state ostensibly to keep out many if not most of the people who apply with the cooperation and consent of already licensed architects who have managed to wrangle a practice in spite of all the drawbacks that exist to keep competition at a minimum. When you can push a button or two or three and get the product of what would have taken hours previously by several people to produce, architects will muiltiply exponentially and their work will be worth exactly what it costs (hint: not much).
@Jimms1198
@Jimms1198 Год назад
thank you for convincing me to not continue my study in architecture field. I always wondering why there's less video on the internet taking about how wonderful an architect profession is and people always says architect is rich whatsoever. Nevertheless, i dodged a bullet by choosing to not getting into a huge amount of dept and getting underpaid just to be called a professional architect
@DrFaggioni
@DrFaggioni Год назад
@@Jimms1198 im glad that my post has saved you and that you can pursue a better direction.. All the best!
@nihilistarchitect
@nihilistarchitect 11 месяцев назад
Architecture - the worst decision of my life.
@tbelho
@tbelho Год назад
For me in India work timing is 9.30 to 6.30pm but always leaves after 7pm. Monday - Saturday only Sunday is holiday but we get some work to do and send even on Sundays. And talk about salary it's really penny. We have to buy lunch from own pocket money also transportation. Bassically Salary is invisible. Waking up at 7am and reach home 8pm, cook dinner, take shower. And the cycle repeats.
@sharmishthadesai-mm1og
@sharmishthadesai-mm1og 8 месяцев назад
I can relate that sucks
@jaymarx8927
@jaymarx8927 Год назад
This is totally confirming why I am SO MUCH HAPPIER working on my own. Just not being stressed all the time doing work that should be easy, but it's not, because the micromanager keeps moving the bar, or not properly explaining what they want. Then it affects my relationship with the client, my relationship with my coworkers, especially when I am also expected to micromanage them. I am a THOUSAND times more efficient working on my own and not having someone breathing down my neck and judging my every move.
@Moochers
@Moochers Год назад
That's awesome to hear! Glad you started working on your own. Good luck!
@floralendurance
@floralendurance 3 года назад
I'm extremely fortunate to be working at a firm that does the type of projects I want to do in the future as a freelancer. After I finish my MArch. and my license I'll go the freelance route.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
That sounds like a plan. Consider starting to do some side work now. Just so you could start to learn the basics of finding clients and managing your time.
@dazai3874
@dazai3874 3 года назад
Man.. I am completely that guy that you are explaining in this video.. flexibility is the key ! And I get anxious about that 9-5 job because as a student finishing my thesis right now its logical thinking about what is next. Being on an enviroment like that makes it so stressful thinking about it..
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
You're gonna have to do it for a little while but you should start building a network and think about what you would like to do in the future (your niche) to speed things up a bit.
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
Ummm. I found architecture to be a 9 to 9 and when time is fleeting, a 9 to 12 job. I hope you survive.
@ShootItALBY
@ShootItALBY Год назад
If you’re still studying architecture, it may be fun at studio right now hanging with friends all day, but that won’t be the endgame. It’s a lonely & aggressive career if you want to go far. RUN! 🏃
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
You can be successful, with difficulty and sacrifice. But it ain't an easy road. Been there and done that.
@pedroroque8681
@pedroroque8681 Год назад
I’m an architecture graduate who has given up on the industry and set up my own multi disciplinary design practice in London. I was awarded by RIBA and had the chance of visiting and interviewing for a couple of the most prestigious firms in the world (Heatherwick and Amanda Levete). I felt something was off from the moment I entered those offices. Some sort of white, old hierarchical depressed atmosphere. I’ve been writing on the the issues with the practice since university and haven’t seen many changes so far. Architecture needs a complete overhaul. It isn’t what we are taught at school.
@marksletters
@marksletters 3 года назад
As an architect, does it surprise you, that with the exception of Greene & Greene, FLW, and Mies…. Few architects ever design every detail in a commission… ie: those guys designed the house itself, the landscaping, designed the furniture, placed the furniture, designed textiles and rugs, designed the hardware, planned lighting effects and then designed all light fixtures, chose wood to be used, selected all finishes, paints and stains and floor coverings, chose and planned the layout patterns for any stone or brick, and designed spectacular glass windows too,….the result…. at the Gamble House, Fallingwater, and Villa Tugendhat ect. ect. is really something to see
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
No single architect ever design the entire project...ever. Never will. Neither did Wright or Mies, Greene and Greene likely did but that is definitely the extremely rare exception. Remember, there were two Greenes.
@ThisisBarris
@ThisisBarris 3 года назад
Good luck Mooch! I've been struggling to do my youtube as well because of my job, which has depressed me a lot. Glad to see that you were able to stop your job and pursue what you like.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
It's tough man. Especially with the amount of work you put into your videos!!! Thanks man!!!
@CKV7
@CKV7 2 года назад
I'm in the first year of my master's degree (because I need a master's degree to get a license to be an architect in my country) and I work in an office at the same time and I hate every moment I'm here, getting up early, the long hours in traffic jams, and then after a full day in the office Do studio and school work. I really want to quit my studies but it's such a scary step, I already switched studies in the middle and on the one hand I want to finish something but on the other hand I hate it And I want to find another job but I do not know what at the moment
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
Finish what you started. Then find a small firm with low pay and improve your design talent and your business savvy. Eventually if your employer makes you a partner, go forward. If he doesn't, find a way to financially separate from him and go it on your own ... if you can afford to do it. Does your wife work. Hold off on starting a family for a few years. After you're 30 and up, there's stlll time to start a family. It's easier that way even if its not more enjoyable.
@emekadesmonds6473
@emekadesmonds6473 3 года назад
How am I the first person to watch this, dude I can relate!! I’m legit going through the same thing but my 9-5 finds my side hustle
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
No way!? Architecture too? What's your side hustle?
@emekadesmonds6473
@emekadesmonds6473 3 года назад
Yup architecture too I’m a student and I work in the industry. Side hustle is an e-commerce website, and sadly school in the evening 😂
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
@@emekadesmonds6473 That's awesome. Way to go. Hustling is so important!
@Buckers582
@Buckers582 3 года назад
I agree with everything you’re saying here and I’m hoping the pandemic has sparked a permanent change in people’s idea of how they should work.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
I really think it has. It wasn't the reason for my push but it def. helped!
@atrane3530
@atrane3530 3 года назад
So uh I’m a senior in college studying pre-professional architecture and I’m at an internship where I sit in a cubicle and do site visit reports literally every single day and I can’t stand it. I am so nervous to graduate and go further into the career because I REALLY hate the 9-5 after doing this internship. Is it always going to be like this? Is it even possible to pay off my debt being a freelance architect? Like fuuuuuuh
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Def possible. It's common to make MORE money as a freelancer :D
@rustymech7869
@rustymech7869 Год назад
working 9 to 5 is a dream here. we work 10-12 hours everyday.
@Moochers
@Moochers Год назад
😁
@LifeofanArchitect_TylerD
@LifeofanArchitect_TylerD 3 года назад
12:00 I felt that 😂 Would love to see a video on how you get clients and keep the steady business for yourself. Best of luck to you in freelancing!
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
😂! I will definitely get into this in my upcoming videos. Thank you so much!
@miltonwelch4177
@miltonwelch4177 Год назад
Worse is when midwit manager tells you: "You know what, do it like this....." without slight idea about the issues of the project.
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
Working cheap goes a long way with clients (not a joke). Choosing your consultants well will help also. You will need consultants to work with you not against you. Remember, they are in the same rut as you are.
@MOJO-IV
@MOJO-IV 2 года назад
He who has a why to live can bear almost any how ~Friedrich Nietzsche
@celinenel3078
@celinenel3078 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing your experience & your honesty! I still find it a bit strange that most architectural firms still adopt the 9-5 principle. I feel that maybe architects/designers/draftpersons would be much more productive if the times were flexible etc. Obviously there would need to be a structure... But that's why there is freelance and essentially being your own boss! So there is a time and place for everything.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
My pleasure. Right? I def agree with task based structure. Have project managers who oversee and your drafters who complete tasks. This is also a good way to see who is falling behind and it allows you to talk to them and find out why.
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
There are some firms out there that believe that people they hire are human and tolerate some flexibility. It doesn't necessarily improve the pay though.
@crftieph
@crftieph Год назад
I am really at a bad time right now. I just got my license but having the 7-4 routine is draining me so much. The company I work in isn't really design oriented (more on sales) and it's so strict that I can't even get to bring coffee inside the office lol. It's also so expensive to work like WHAT... Travelling, food to eat, laundry for everyday outfits and other unexpected expenses. I am so tired but I have to be nicer to myself and give myself some rest.. So nice to hear someone feel the same way..
@jeremyviromek
@jeremyviromek Год назад
no coffee? yea that's an 'I quit' for me
@crftieph
@crftieph Год назад
@@jeremyviromek already quit 🤭🤣
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
Just so you know...most "successful" firms are not "design oriented" (though they all say they are). They are bullsh*t oriented. The top guys will swear that "they" will design the best environment at the lowest cost for the client. The client buys it and they're off. What gets done is the anointed few who are top guy favorites will hack something together without a hint of economy. When construction is under way and the problems start to appear, the top guys do two things: call their lawyers and reduce the staff (you know who). Some time later when the awards are paid, there is a time of healing for everyone except those who were sacrificed along the way.
@samann95014
@samann95014 Год назад
I am completely with you on this . 9 to 5, 40 hrs. work life is not good for creative folks like us. I'm not lazy, I just don't like the routine, suck up, corporate environment. I quit corporate life and now happy as a freelancer.
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
You're headed in the right direction (from a 45-year retired arch.)
@andrescientos
@andrescientos Месяц назад
I don't think employers realize how much money they could be saving if they only paid their employees based on the completion of tasks. I remember billing for a clinic and that was an infinite endless task because there were always patients and obviously, I had to be there from 8:00am to 5:00pm (and Saturdays).
@jakehancock2888
@jakehancock2888 3 года назад
My work week was 7 days a week over summer, 66 hour work weeks... Split between Mcdonalds and an Amazon warehouse. But there is no way I could have done that permanently haha, pretty sure it was taking years off my lifespan, I know exactly what you're talking about in this 🙃
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
That's brutal! I feel like experiences like that are great for short periods cause it really helps you realize what you really DON'T want to do in life.
@EDub513
@EDub513 5 месяцев назад
I consistently have worked 10-12 hours per day, 7 days a week for the past 12 years. I am freelanced, but everyone is so cheap that I must have an overloaded work log just to be able to afford the basics of life with a little bit of luxury, here and there. There are some periods of time when I have worked 16-20 hours per day, 7-21 days straight - and financially, I’m not any better off than if I worked a basic 9-5 job. Only advantages are I can take time off whenever I want (though rarely can afford to due to the project log) and can sleep in.. which is great because my brain barely functions between 6am-10am.. so I start my work day around noon - but am commonly up still working until 2-4 am. It is what it is. I both love it and hate that it’s shortening my lifespan. I am now trying to push against the system and want to build myself a very small house so I can pay it off on 10ish years and hopefully by then, be able to make ends meet with only a fraction of the work I currently design and draft. Maybe all of my house plans can be refreshed and made available for sale as my own form of retirement - because saving money while making hardly any.. is next to impossible to save for retirement. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@BWarch3891
@BWarch3891 Год назад
Daniel I appreciate your video and think in some ways insightful and agreeable to what I've dealt with and I do feel oldschool practice and new school work-life balance along with architectural schooling is evolving and changing. What I think people/aspiring architects should gather from this is working in architecture is not a one size fits all in terms of how one wishes to practice but I hope the aspiring do not see your views as too negative but rather how YOU specifically prefer to be and work based on YOUR experience in practice because some talented people might be easily scared away from architecture if their perspectives are shallow or fresh. A few things i think people should know: some salaried jobs offer overtime pay and other benefits, there were times I really enjoyed my commute to and from work as a way to gear up or decompress, getting up early is normal but it requires the discipline of going to bed early certain nights and lastly learning to work under pressure having never had an issue with either someone standing over me or being micro-managed because I took on the attitude that those moments were the real tests- I've served in restaurants when I was younger understanding what "being in the weeds" means, it's an easy anology knowing things are running behind and you just have to have the attitude that you can do what you can and focus best you can to get it done until your caught up and learn to practice more efficiently each time which is an important aspect of our growth. I have worked for people who were awful to deal with but i never let people walk all over me and always tryed to approach them professionally wether i stayed or left, thats life in everything. I think in school the majority of students focus so much on the creative side naturally it is difficult not to feel the creative urge far more often then actual work hours allow- bc a large purpose of the creative modes in college is what helps us learn not just design but also the base technical skill and care for detail geared toward real practice. And whether one works salaried, hourly or independently it always takes those extra miles to practice our own creativity unless we are being funded, given that role in practice or until we get our own projects. I do agree working independently can allow more freedom but it also comes with a cost, just depends on which mode works best for a person and how good they are at finding or creating the work, I actually enjoy both modes because there's far less studio commradery working freelance vs working in the right practice although I've had some really great one on one time working independently with principal architects. I reccomend to the unsure aspiring to take the good with the bad and maybe CONSIDER all the modes and become well rounded even if for someone who doesn't like working with people because that will teach perseverance. I do think times are changing also and more firms are considering more hybrid options and/or a 32 hour work week which gives us more time to practice what we love outside work. Architecture is an exhausting profession there's no way around it.
@joosepagu
@joosepagu 3 года назад
I'm in school and would really love to hear you talk about architecture freelancing 👌🏼
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
It's gonna happen :D!
@joosepagu
@joosepagu 3 года назад
@@Moochers Love to hear it 🙏🏼
@__-gn3tp
@__-gn3tp Год назад
This is a very good video summarising issues in architecture practices. And I like your perspective about flexibility in working hours..
@Moochers
@Moochers Год назад
Thanks!
@milesborg9812
@milesborg9812 Год назад
the most excited i have ever been about architecture is the thought of quitting. i cannot wait.
@wheres_bears1378
@wheres_bears1378 Год назад
I’m studying drafting/building design in Australia at the moment and am not going to pursue it when I finish. The insane amount of regulation and stress compared to the pay is simply not worth it. The best jobs I’ve ever held were in construction. You see an end result if your work, you’re not stuck at a desk all day staring at a screen, the pay is awesome. I’m starting to think it’s best to pursue that Avenue. Throw AI in the mix and in ten years architecture jobs are going to be at least halved
@methinksilikecake
@methinksilikecake 3 года назад
My man Mooch, captured everything that soured my office experiences.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Aww man.. it's the WORST!
@BWarch3891
@BWarch3891 Год назад
Also not every state requires a bachelor's or masters degree to be an architect but rather an associates degree with a much higher number of axp hours. So for people who would rather apprentice longterm instead of going to college for an extended amount of time look at your states licensing requirements and weigh the cost of college vs apprenticeship.
@Foxy_Fabrications
@Foxy_Fabrications Год назад
So completely true I can attest to that. However I think you still had a good experience. I worked for firms that were down right abusive.
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
After over 40 years of architectural work in the offices of others, I was fired for correcting one of the "superiors" who made a simple error of judgement in his design that would have been a simple "fix" but even an experienced person dare not tweak the nose of those who sign their paychecks. I thanked him for the privilege of leaving his employ.
@spiriitualminded
@spiriitualminded 3 года назад
I honestly didn’t expect this frm u. Thanks for sharing because this is DEFINITELY HELPFUL
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Really? Well it's something I've been working towards for years now. I'm glad it helped!
@spiriitualminded
@spiriitualminded 3 года назад
@@Moochers that’s awesome!… well because of your talent I got the vibe of you owning your own business & things like that, but then again it was unexpected lol, I sound crazy!😂
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
@@spiriitualminded I appreciate the compliment!
@ViDZ-el9km
@ViDZ-el9km 3 года назад
KEEP IN MIND... Some are bosses & others are workers, if you think outside the box YOU ARE THE BOSS!
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Awesome. The power of the mind.
@ViDZ-el9km
@ViDZ-el9km 3 года назад
@@Moochers No doubt. Ay good content man keep it up
@abcdefgh-rq3gq
@abcdefgh-rq3gq 2 года назад
"Fexible hrs" is how firms squeeze out maximum productivity. You can end up working 12 hrs for 6 days a week. 🤣 You get overloaded with work till you burn out and quit. Fexible hrs vs 9 to 5. I pick 9 to 5 any day. Freelancing is the way to go. 🙂👍 You decide what you want to work on and at what pace you take on a new task.
@Moochers
@Moochers 2 года назад
Very true!
@LeonSKennedy7777
@LeonSKennedy7777 Год назад
Places like France really struck a right balance with mandated 35 hr work weeks. When workers aren’t squeezed to the last drop, they tend to enjoy their work & might put in overtime because they WANT to. And the quality of that work will tend to be much higher.
@sensei_poo
@sensei_poo 2 года назад
Hey is it the same case for landscape architecture also?i am thinking of doing masters in it. Currently pursuing b.arch.
@nelsonianb1289
@nelsonianb1289 2 месяца назад
Yea but onstruction doesnt stop during working hours
@iamestar_
@iamestar_ Год назад
I decided to leave 1 week ago today, and let me tell you this has been the BEST feeling decision EVER and I’m grateful for it. I hope God keeps on guiding me
@aspirant8780
@aspirant8780 Год назад
You quit?
@iamestar_
@iamestar_ Год назад
@@aspirant8780 yes it was draining my whole being
@Moochers
@Moochers Год назад
Good luck!
@miltonwelch4177
@miltonwelch4177 Год назад
Where to?
@phyl1283
@phyl1283 Год назад
Anybody can quit. You do have a plan in place, don't you?
@ziyanzhuang713
@ziyanzhuang713 3 года назад
Love your video, just wonder how you want to do in order to be a good leader in architecture business?
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Thank you! That requires experience. AS you start to work you realize what you don't enjoy about the career or the business and work to strengthen those.
@Mahm00dM0hanad
@Mahm00dM0hanad 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing, nice to hear others opinions. Btw I know it’s quite rude in some cultures but can you please be more open about how much money “roughly” do you make with these kind of jobs
@MR_BAWAAL
@MR_BAWAAL 3 года назад
Same is happening with me and i don't know how to convince my parents that I don't want a 10 to 7 job.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Have you talked to them to see why they are concerned about you having that specific type of job?
@MR_BAWAAL
@MR_BAWAAL 3 года назад
@@Moochers Yes, Actually they believe that I'll loos my source of income and job security.
@sensei_poo
@sensei_poo 2 года назад
@@MR_BAWAAL bruh i feel ya being an indian
@rolanda.arriagaarchitect3566
There’s nothing like working from home. It beats commuting, traffic, gas , stress, etc. You are more creative being at ease in your own environment. However, It still requires much focus and discipline to work from home and earn enough to make a good living. So you have to set up systems just like you have in established firms to be successful. It’s a business, whether you work from home or not, growing, and at the end of the day you need to be making a profit and providing value- added services to your clients, and, you have to multiply yourself in others to be able to enjoy the privileges of working on your own.
@mojoflow2417
@mojoflow2417 3 года назад
hey mooch, how long have you been working in architecture practice for?
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Going on 6 years now!
@miltonwelch4177
@miltonwelch4177 Год назад
For freelance work one needs reliable person and friend in the studios to keep him or her informed about the "general mood and state of the place" from time to time. Relationship with quality studio offers one access to work on high quality projects that one is capable of acquiring by him/herself, mostly due to lack of even minuscule independent wealth that is the window to confident approach to hi-end clients.
@jeamese
@jeamese 3 года назад
HEY I HAVE PROBLEM TO GET SOME CLIENT HOW I MAKE GETS MORE CLIENTS
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Great question. Probably the toughest question out there in this case. I say google ads to your website, contacting firms, contacting vendors, contacting contractors, etc.
@spiriitualminded
@spiriitualminded 3 года назад
GREAT INSIGHT! It’s weird that this came across my mind a few day’s ago!! I was curious if I would have a problem with a 9-5! I’ve literally been working & getting up early since maybe middle school. & it’s been a struggle
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Yea, it doesn't get easier. Especially when you realize that it will take up the majority of your life. Then you want out immediately
@davidhernandez9985
@davidhernandez9985 3 года назад
Well, I work in the ArmyCorpOfEngineers it's a great atmosphere for me a great, gig!
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
I'm happy for you!
@zarazalazar
@zarazalazar 10 месяцев назад
Right, I love designing and working with clients...its the 9-5 that sucks.
@prodbyrichie9486
@prodbyrichie9486 Год назад
Hey mahn do I need a masters degree to get a license or can I do it with a bachelor's degree
@SkyVeyron
@SkyVeyron 3 года назад
You remember that video that you did in 2019 about social blade, and it said that ur channel would get 60.000 subs in 5 years, so....
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
You 'member? I 'member.
@marksletters
@marksletters 3 года назад
Your happiness is worth it !!
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Thank you!
@beetoo20
@beetoo20 3 года назад
He is tired working from 9 to 5, imagine from 8 to 6 😂
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
No way! Not anymore!
@Firebulous
@Firebulous Год назад
oh my. I was about to quit Architecture but maybe freelancing would make it better
@fv6132
@fv6132 2 года назад
Guys, quick question. When you say you quit did you just quit and then look for a new gig or did you find a new gig and then quit?
@sensei_poo
@sensei_poo 2 года назад
If you are financially stable then quit and find for job. If not then first find one and then quit
@marksletters
@marksletters 3 года назад
Thank you for great videos
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
My pleasure
@spiriitualminded
@spiriitualminded 3 года назад
Freelance is probably the best decision ever!! Lol turn~up enjoy & GOOOODDDLUCKKK
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
It really is. Thank you!
@spacyspice
@spacyspice 3 года назад
Welcome to the club.
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Wooooo!
@grandmasterplank
@grandmasterplank 2 года назад
Amen brother.
@sharmishthadesai-mm1og
@sharmishthadesai-mm1og 8 месяцев назад
How do you build a network along with 9 to 5 job
@ivangrebennikov799
@ivangrebennikov799 3 года назад
Finally! We missed you!
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Thank you! So happy to be back!
@Mc44
@Mc44 3 года назад
I’m watching this being a contract designer rn… having an offer for a full time position…..
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Uh-oh. What are you gonna do?!
@Mc44
@Mc44 3 года назад
@@Moochers I’m honestly pretty nervous but contract work hasn’t been enough to make a living.. it’s 30/hr but not enough hours
@Mc44
@Mc44 3 года назад
@@Moochers I think I’m gonna keep doing contract work while having the full time job tho because how nice the money is
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
@@Mc44 Exactly! Have you tried looking on Upwork or craigslist or reaching out to other firms to get more work?
@Mc44
@Mc44 3 года назад
@@Moochers no I havnt but idk. I had a full year internship but now at this point I’ve never had a salary job and until grad school I’m gonna go for it and see what I can learn
@allegorybyvuyo
@allegorybyvuyo Год назад
daily commute is an underrated horrible part of being a 9-5'er
@Moochers
@Moochers Год назад
Probably the worst part if you live in a busy city 🥲
@ArchAnime
@ArchAnime 3 года назад
good luck!
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Thank you!
@trips505
@trips505 3 года назад
respects, best of luck with this!
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
Thank you!
@rafaeashraf605
@rafaeashraf605 Год назад
I had to subscribe. The 9-5 grind is the worst
@AleksPirok
@AleksPirok 2 года назад
What do you do instead?
@harrybellingham98
@harrybellingham98 3 года назад
thanks for sharing
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
You got it
@ghassanalhammadi7690
@ghassanalhammadi7690 3 года назад
I want to work with you
@Letslearnarchitecture
@Letslearnarchitecture 3 года назад
9 am is not early in africa thats actually late and honestly in africa we would call it "lazy" sorry but i had to tell you
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
What's wrong with being lazy?
@Letslearnarchitecture
@Letslearnarchitecture 3 года назад
@@Moochers once you get lazy you start complaining too much and you post videos like this. Anyway you do what youre doing tho . All the best in your endeavours sir.
@WhiteItalian
@WhiteItalian 2 года назад
@@Moochers The bad thing is that you earn 5000 dollars on average per month working 8 hours, I can't imagine if you are in Argentina, you earn 200-400 dollars on average for working 10 hours and 6 times a week, with the best but you are a laim person
@NoneFB
@NoneFB 2 года назад
The Magic Pill is a union shop for you. All these things that you cover in 15 minutes, you are young and taken advantage of. (Your employer wants to have free labor.). What’s your future? Do you want to get married? Children? A home? Bills that need to be paid? You are not being paid enough and will not be given time off. You cannot afford to have your car repaired. You need the employee rights that workers fought for before the year 1900. Working in architecture has not gotten better in fifty years.
@Atrihaus
@Atrihaus Год назад
This is what I'm going through 😂
@chilombe
@chilombe Год назад
Interesting: as an architect, I wrote a whole essay in response to this video. Then I realized that it was made over a year ago. Hence, I am looking for "Part Two" and I basically did not find it. You claim that being a "freelancer" was the silver bullet to all these common issues, not all unique to being an architect. Well I do agree that you might not have anybody micromanaging you, not have to wake up early every day and sit in traffic, etc, but, there is a lot that was left unsaid, about freelancing, like lack of a stable income, lack of consistent projects, lack of choice etc... As a freelancer you have had to do a lot of other projects including RU-vid and NFT projects to "make it" viable. How really is that different from working diligently at a firm you love and getting your bonus at the end of the year?
@Moochers
@Moochers Год назад
Hey! I never made a part two... but I definitely should. When I made this video, I had just started my journey on being a freelancer. After about a year of this process, a lot has changed but I'll give you a quick overview and hopefully answer some of your questions / address your doubts. First off I would like to say that the biggest challenge is definitely the stable income. Luckily I've been able to find pretty consistent clients (consistent work), therefore, I haven't needed to spend much time looking for work. Second, I charge more since I have to cover my own fees, yet it's still cheaper to go through me than a firm because I firm has tons more overhead than I do. In other words, it's more inexpensive to hire me than to hire a firm, yet I make more than I make at a firm, so win win (client and I). Because I make more, I don't have the stress of NEEDING to pull 40 hours a week. Although this doesn't really matter at a firm where you are getting paid a salary, you still have to worry about your peers constantly wondering where you are or why you are taking so many days off - something I have no worry about anymore. So bascially I take time as I need without really letting anyone know since I do make more money, so long as I get the work done, doesn't really matter when. I also love the ability to grow my company as I want to. If I want to join a competition tomorrow, I can, and I technically get paid for it. Where as in a firm, I don't always have this luxury. I can choose my projects (ex. small residential projects) and not have to worry about other projects being handed to me last minute. The freedom to evolve in the industry as I want to is really enticing to me. I never enjoyed the feeling of being on rails. Always having to listen to others opinions as if they were fact. Not worrying about how or when to design. Not worrying if my time is "not being spent wisely" because the project manager would have done it different. All that is gone out the door. I also love that I can grow my company. If I'm at a firm and I want to give someone half my pay to help me finish my project on deadline, that wouldn't fly. Since it's my company, I could do that if I wanted to (just an example of the freedom) There is always the concern of trying to stay afloat through having enough work/clients. No insurance, 401k, paid holiday's etc, is kind of a bummer as well. But since I make more, I just have to be more organized to cover all of these expenses. As far as I'm concerned, I'm just paying my dues until my company is big enough that my efforts will be paid back with dividends, so to speak. So I still prefer this option. I still have the hopes that I never have to go back to a firm I like, but instead, create one that I LOVE. And one last thing, just to touch on what you said about RU-vid and NFT's. These two are/were passion projects and do not benefit me financially (at the moment) in any way. They actually cost/have cost me money to keep running. I could not have those two and I would still be in the same place, financially speaking, with my freelance gigs /business. Hope that helps!
@chilombe
@chilombe Год назад
@@Moochers Thanks for taking the time to respond. It was helpful and more inline with what I thought. Perhaps you had more luck getting quality clients than I have. Both have their ups and downs. You might be in a firm you love or might have a great freelance business. I have some experience in both. Now I'm in a laid back firm, which after covid we adopted an even more flexible "deadline" approach to work, where you can still have some "work-from-home" days.
@Moochers
@Moochers Год назад
@@chilombe That's great to hear! Happy that you've found a firm that works for you. Nothing wrong with that, as we both pointed out, there are tons of pro's to working at a firm. As far as I'm concerned, if you're happy and feel it has everything you need to continue expanding your career, that's all that matters!
@dre.supreme
@dre.supreme Год назад
This video is a lot of complaining… 1st world complaining at that… architecture is LIT. Designing something new every week for a new location is exhilarating. Subscribed tho😅.
@emaloriakhel7492
@emaloriakhel7492 2 года назад
I’m planning to become a freelance architect where I pick my own hours working from home
@Moochers
@Moochers 2 года назад
Nice! That’s basically what I do except I’m not an architect, I’m a project manager
@mankind5709
@mankind5709 Год назад
My advice take every job in the beginning , make friends with builders , they will refer you as you go. Then you can be selective who you want to work for. More jobs you do , the more referrals you will get.
@emaloriakhel7492
@emaloriakhel7492 Год назад
@@Moochers looks like I’ve changed my mind no point of me doing architecture
@joonyoungahn3350
@joonyoungahn3350 3 года назад
when mooch first reason is literally school
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
😂
@frankli4923
@frankli4923 2 года назад
Please don't put me in the wrong way. Each of your points in this video just makes me appealing to this career even more. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to your video as a freelancer.
@heikorudi6105
@heikorudi6105 Год назад
as if freelancing is any easier 🤣
@puja1985
@puja1985 2 года назад
Actually its healthy to be morning person and having a structured workhour. It allign with your circadian rhythm and melatonin production.
@thomas-wiki
@thomas-wiki 3 года назад
now u can make another fiverr video
@Moochers
@Moochers 3 года назад
hmmm... 🤔
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