I'm Jealous of Warhammer 

I was the lead producer on Mass Effect 3 in Edmonton, and responsible for ME3 MP development. We didn’t make MP just for money, it was really a love letter to the coop shooter genre. Monetization was not the first thing we started with. I left after ME3, so I can’t speak to subsequent decisions, but I can say we really just wanted to make something special that would entertain people for a long time.

The Horus heresy actually has 54 books in the “main series” and an additional 18 set in the siege of terra part of the heresy. The 30k universe is huge

Im jealous of Raycevick's production quality.

The flesh is weak and so is Mass Effect

I felt this video so goddamn hard. I was introduced to Warhammer by the Total War trilogy, and while I think they're some of the best that Total War has to offer/love them and I grew addicted to Vermintide 2 shortly after (to such a degree that I nearly flunked out of college lol), Mass Effect is STILL the definitive sci-fi universe that I wish became the next big thing™, the big universe that had games, movies, TV shows and just *more* of, and I will forever be upset that its current legacy was/is tarnished like so many others by EA's greed and so limited as is.

I've thought this often I've never understood why more franchises don't branch out and do spin off's in different genres and mass effect was always my example ... it is such a well crafted universe with tons of lore and detail it would fit perfectly in many other genres like star wars or yes warhammer, I mean halo did an rts, gears of war did an xcom, mass effect could easily do both of them, or a straight up shooter or space combat hell it would even have a market as a dating sim

If you really want a certain story niche in Warhammer, or hell even another IP, given more attention then I whole heartedly recommend GMing your own tabletop/online role-playing game. Write whatever youre really passionate about in that setting and I bet you'll be able to find other people who will be willing to experience that with you.

40k has the Shokk Attack Gun, that's all that needs to be said really.

"You get eight books for a single battle in one of the universes..." Don't forget the 50+ books, short stories, audio dramas, comics, etc. Leading up to that single battle.

Space Marine was so good that when Space Marine 2 was revealed recently, *no one in the 40k community complained about it*

WH-Fans be like: Damn, i wish we would get just one really awesome singleplayer RPG like Mass Effect. All we get are tons of mediocre (and really bad) games.

I think Raycevik likes Mass Effect but i'm not sure. Could you make a 12 hour video describing every quest in the franchise and your thoughts on it like that one guy, PatricianTV, did for Morrowind and Oblivion, thanks.

It also helps that warhammer approaches its lore fast and loose with its “everything is cannon but not everything is true” ideology. It’s gives developers plenty of room to explore the IP.

I recognised the Mechanicus music as soon as is started playing, when Warhammer games are done right, they're fantastic

"If you're lucky" *Deus Ex appears* I'm not crying, you're crying. Actually, we both are.

This video aged remarkably well, considering the reveal of like another 7 warhammer games yesterday

Part of the reason Warhammer (fantasy, 40k, Horus Heresy, Age of Sigmar, etc.) is like this now is because Games Workshop took the "spreadshot" approach to licensing - making the license cheap and easily accessible to development studios This has resulted in a LOT of garbage - like a lot of really crappy mobile games - but it also means that the odds of some passionate dev team getting their hands on the franchise and making the game they want to make is higher, since the license is cheaper and more readily available It's a significant departure from the usual "We will license our property but give you strict guidelines, oversight and will repeatedly meddle in it's development" that caracterizes most licensing deals, with Games Workshop the policy seems to be: "Here's a guidebook for the franchise, go nuts, if it's popular and good you'll hear from us again and get more investment for a cool sequel, if it's bad, it didn't cost us anything since we didn't invest in it to begin with"

15 days later: Games workshop spams the market with like ten more games out of absolutely nowhere. Raycevick: "RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!"

The TLDR is to diversify the talent pool by letting lower budget yahoos have a chance to shine...and if they fail, there are a hundred more attempts being made right over the horizon of time! One or two of them are just bound to strike figurative gold! Alternate title is "How to make a Franchise".

Meanwhile, in a Warhammer fan's mind "I'm jealous of other franchises, for I can experience all they have to offer in a humanly viable span of time, instead of being bombarded with dozens of books and games every year"

This is the reason people read and write fanfiction lol. An even smaller proportion of quality than 40k titles, but there's so very much of it that that still amounts to a decent pile of good stuff

The original Dawn of War got me into the franchise. I've been hooked ever since. The universe is so big, with so many stories, characters, and things to explore. Yeah, GWs made some screw ups. A lot of screw ups, but the IP is strong. And in 10 years, even if we never get another game, I can go back to Dawn of War: Soulstorm and sink more hours in. Or pick up another trilogy book. Or finish painting (ha) one of my armies and go play the tabletop.

Don't be jealous of 40k fans for the games, be jealous of us for the books. We get a huge number of incredibly high-quality novels on a scale that is frankly unbelievable. I've spent hundreds and hundreds of hours listening to them on audible and I've still barely scratched the surface. It's really helped keep me invested in the universe since turning on an audiobook is such an easy thing to do and there are always more no matter what.

GW’s philosophy is basically “people will love the good games more than they’ll hate the bad ones”

Clearly Mass Effect should get a miniature wargame, this started as a joke in my head but actually sounds kinda dope.

I work in games marketing and all I could do is nod in agreement through the whole video. Some of the brand decisions made are nothing but baffling in the eyes of the industry. Even as suits start droning on about the “meta verse” it’s bizarre seeing how limited they make their franchises. As a always stellar work.

Meanwhile, Warhammer just announced a CRPG, a sports game, a side scrolling shoot-em-up, several expansion packs, and a literal 16-bit Doom clone This video is only getting more relevant. As both a Warhammer and Mass Effect fan, I can understand where you’re coming from

The irony of one of my favorite video game RU-vidrs wanting more from his genre's as I await a video every 2-4 months

Ironically, the economic and production choices of the two franchises sort of mirror the in game view on human life and war. In Mass Effect the government sinks large sums of money into a small crew of highly skilled special operators who are expected to save the world. In Warhammer 40K the empire has a steady production of expendable, yet very effective, fanatical warriors who are sent out into the cosmos to stem the tide of hungry monsters and conquering warlords.

I think skillup had a good take: Warhammer rejected blizzard when they asked for a license. After the success of warcraft as an IP, I think they are over compensating by giving so many devs the license

You know I oddly needed to hear this. As a Warhammer fan it can at time be easy to get lost in the usual bitching and moaning about GW being GW, questionable lore/story decision and drowning under the glut of not that great Warhammer games. So it's nice at times how good Warhammer fans have it and how there's still a lot to love about Warhammer despite some miss steps.

There's been a similar hiccup with Star Wars - I don't believe people love the series for its consistency or groundbreaking storytelling, but rather that Star Wars under George Lucas was this massive multimedia behemoth, where people could try any bizarre and niche concept within the series' universe. Once Disney took over, things became infrequent and safe, and I think people liked the clunky charms of the old universe. Not to mention the relative lack of games during that now-expired exclusivity with EA.

I want the E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy guys to keep making 40k games, or at least do the art direction for them. For all of their lackluster gameplay, the devs clearly care about the setting based on the insane environments alone.

From the moment I understood the weakness of Mass Effect, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of Warhammer. I aspired to the purity of the blessed Games Workshop. Your kind cling to EA as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude bioware you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For I have mostly bad taste!!! P.S. that's obviously a joke, I love M.E.

In regards to Metro, the universe is 'open source' so there actually have been a lot of books in said universe from different authors, without focusing on the main story of the Metro books.

Black Lagoon was amazing and I'm sad Hirano just doesn't want to continue the series. Best guns, best company, best waifus, Dutch is a boss. What's not to like?

Goddamn that mechanicus soundtrack is still one of the best ever made in gaming.

This is literally me right now. I'm 52...played Space Hulk and TT 40k as a kid. Did Dawn of War and Space Hulk on PC. Then....nothing. For years. Until last year...saw the SM2 trailer. Then watched the Blood Angels (the best legion) TV series. Now currently binging Luetin, playing Ascension and just about to go full Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate - Daemonhunters. This franchise has legs.

As a warhammer fan this does make me feel better about the state our games are in. Sure there's a lot of trash but at least there's a LOT so there's a chance some golden nuggets come through rather than just nothing. Never really been into Mass Effect, never played the games or anything, but people talking about does intrigue me and I hope you guys get something good soon as well

I felt that "Fuck you" at the end. Mass Effect deserves more. I've even began reading the mass effect dnd5e conversion I'm so starved for content.

You spoke so perfectly on my behalf with this one. Mass effect is one of the only series that I can't stop coming back too. It deserves so much better than what it is. Thank you, this was extremely cathartic for me.

Man, I feel this. Star Wars is a prime example of this since they went from one extreme to the other following the Disney aquisition. Used to be tones of games. I recall several RPG/action/platformer games along side Star Wars chess and Star Wars Tekken, all console. Now its Battlefront, which is top-tier A-A-A blaaaaaaaaah... I miss the variety, even if the games were janky

“Ive done every interrupt” As one does. “I’ve completed every side mission” Same! “I’ve killed a dozen thresher maws” Seems low but Yes! “I’ve read all the planet descriptions” Hell ya! “I’ve played and completed pinnacle station” Brother! (Most efficient way to get the end game armors too with reload cycling) “Heres what I am currently reading” Okay thats TOO desperate…

What you described literally happened to me. I'm a massive boomer shooter stan and I got Warhammer Boltgun because even though I knew the bare minimum about 40K, it always looked perfect for that sort of thing. Cut to four months later, I'm reading lore for hours, discussing who the best primarch is, begging games workshop for a survival horror where you play as a member of the Death Korps of Krieg and screaming about purging the heretics. It also helps how, despite it's grimdark tagline, absurdly fun the setting gets. Seriously, it's a hugely expansive universe of nothing but high octane violent, heavy metal fun

As a big Warhammer and Mass Effect fan, I am on both sides on this. I am spoiled by choice for Warhammer but good god some of the choices are bad. But as a Mass Effect fan, boy do I wish I had content to engage with, shitty or not.

While Black Lagoon isn't really an apt comparison because it's a semi-obscure anime and not a video game franchise, I still appreciate you bringing it up. BTW if you want something in basically the exact same vein as Black Lagoon, go watch Jormungand.

You forgot to add "We got to punch Cerberus troops in the balls with a Batarian gauntlet as a Volus mercenary" Also, you could play as a Volus Vanguard and name him Bowling ball.

Honestly, what you said in the end is precisely why Warhammer has kept going strong while all others have fallen or faded. They choose not put the future of their franchises behind a single project. They have their hands in tabletop, books, video games, and normal board games. Hell, they are even starting to dip their toes into movies and TV. And there are ongoing projects going on in each. Many of them will not be good, most will be bad. But the bad ones are virtually never strong enough to destroy the IP and the good ones really stand out among others in the industry. They keep on growing many smaller legs so the IP stays afloat even if some fail. The centipede keeps going when it loses some legs while the might giraffe, majestic and tall, is crippled and dies when a single leg is broken. One other thing Warhammer does really well is by not having any one character be the focal point of the franchise. Unlike IPs like Halo and Mass Effect, whose primary narratives and core identities are based almost completely on the sole player character (Master Chief and Commander Shephard respectively), Warhammer makes an effort in saying that the universe will keep going even without their input. They make a habit of making the universe bigger than the majority of characters themselves. Only an extremely small number of truly godlike beings are capable of changing the universe by their actions alone, people who make Chief and Shephard look look like specs of dust. And trying to make a game where you would fill their shoes is an exercise in futility. Those same characters are mostly faded into the pages of history, little more than myth and legend.

This is exactly how I feel with Ace Combat. For such a huge world with a shit ton of lore, they barely scratched half of the Strangereal countries and barely touching the cyberpunk future they established in 3 Here’s hoping the success of Skies Unknown convinces Bandai Namco to at least try to put more faith into the franchise

3:11 Actually, there are more than three books in the Metro universe. At some point, the universe has been franchised out to other authors to write their own stories set within the universe. Those stories aren't restricted to Russia either, so you get a look at what other countries do past the war. I've read quite a few of them, some were kinda not good, but others were legitimately great and worthy of the Metro-stamp. I believe that 4A Games even took some inspiration from some of the novels. However, I'm not sure whether they have been translated into English. They are available in Russian and German afaik.

40K fans: "Man why are there so many bad 40K games?" Every other fan: "Why aren't there more games from the franchise I like?" There is never enough.

Dark Crusade was my intro to the series. Still love this series to this day

12:06 Last of Us 1 had amazing multiplayer. I was double bummed once I finished the 2nd one and realising they scrapped the multiplayer

As someone who fell totally in love with Titanfall, just in time for the DDOS to land, this totally hits home. It's amazing how the big publishers have basically forgotten to make mid-tier games. 20 projects that make 50 milion in sales is still a billion dollars, probably for less cost than 1 project that makes a billion. But it's been left by the wayside for an ever decreasing number of tent pole franchises that are proving easier and easier to topple with each release (see Halo, Battlefield, Assasin's Creed etc). Oh well, jealousy of GW it is!

I'd take ME3 Multiplayer remastered or alternatively a separate ME Multiplayer game which is constantly updated... I don't normally like live service games, but if ME3 multiplayer was still receiving content to this day I'd almost certainly still be playing it was the best time I've ever had on a multiplayer game!

I can't imagine how salty you will be now because they announced even more games, I can flavor it

I’m glad someone gets how good we have it. Hours upon hours of tons of forms of content. 350 books to read. Spread over tons of factions. Games of ever make and quality. Creators who talk about the lore, paint the models, and play the games

Mass Effect 3's MP is that one lightning in a bottle we had, we experienced it, us lucky few, and nobody will ever know how good it was.

And then the Warhammer Skulls showcase drops today... Now what do you do?

if only warhammer wasn't so mismanaged about relations with fanmade stuff... rip Emperror TTS :(

I'm agree with your point, Game companies these days put all focus on Big budget AAA games, maximum profit but if it fail it will damage the IP. Game industry could use more middle budget games, like those WH games, if these game fail it wouldn't hurt the bottom line so much. In fact, because it's a middle budget game, fan would forgive some bugs or design flaws. However, these middle budget games doesn't bring millions of profit that shareholder want, so Game companies ignored them.

I feel the same about Dead Space, even though the franchise had a lot of multi-media content (books, comics, animated movies and few spinoffs), the lore and the universe are so massively interesting that I want more and more ;___; I would even love to see an exploration of the every day life in the Dead Space world, the technology, culture and immersion are top notch.

Truly spoken like someone who doesn’t have a series of books that fulfill the niche “fake hero gets into dangerous situations and survives through dumb luck only to be called a hero for doing so repeating the cycle” genre for their favorite series.

3:11 Three books by Glukhovsky. Then there's about a dozen or so spin-off books by several authors dealing with different metro stations or entirely different cities. Most of them reach the heights of the original trilogy but they're a fun read regardless. If you need your Metro fix, go check them out!

I think Black Lagoon would make for a great Max Payne style video game.

It's actually such a shame they didn't include ME3's multiplayer in the legendary edition. Yes, I'm still salty.

I think a mass effect tabletop RPG could be pretty cool

There are plenty of franchises that I just want more of. I want to experience their world and the stories it can offer, and so often whether it's games, anime, tv shows, books, comics, plays, audio dramas (looking at you Yoko Taro) or the combination thereof, there's just not enough for me. That's when I'm glad I'm a Star Wars fan. 100 games, 100s of books and comics, 15 movies, 18 tv shows, "with a million more well on the way." You couldn't run out of Star Wars if you tried. Yeah, some of it's bad. Hell, a lot of it's bad, but almost inevitably that means that some of it is good, in fact some of it's the best fiction ever written, and when you find something like that, the KotORs, The Clone Wars, the Thrawn trilogy, it's utterly magical. Even if it took some digging to get there, you got to experience new stories in a universe that you love, and that's because the creator stuck with it and the fans stuck with it. The franchise could have died with the holiday special, before Empire was even released, but people didn't abandon it after it took a bad turn. The creator evolved the series, took risks, gained new fans and lost some old ones, and now it's still around today even though no two Star Wars fans will ever fully agree on what Star Wars they like, because it's different for everybody. Personally, I hate Jedi Power Battles, and I think the OT is 'fine,' but prefer the prequel era, which most Star Wars fans would consider heresy. If you've made a compelling universe, then you can make a lot of stories and genres work inside of it to appeal to as many demographics as possible, but you can't do that in a single game. Believe in your franchise, iterate upon it, remind people of it by releasing new works, and the fanbase will grow in time, instead of letting the IP stagnate, letting its fans move on to something else, and driving both veterans and newcomers away by releasing a $40m flop every 5 years.

The ups and downs of the Warhammer games have very much tempered my expectations, it's amazing how much more fun a game is when it's very good and you didn't expect it to be.

First of all, E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy is amazing, even now. Second, and yes I do agree, just because there's a lot of content for Warhammer doesn't mean most of it is good quality. Third, Bloodbowl 1 is still great and in many ways BETTER than BB 2. Fourth, Dawn of War 1 is still lauded by many of its fans is THE definition of a Warhammer 40K game, and its VA is second to none.

That "Fuck you!" was the most I felt in a long time. No game series has held my interest for as long as Mass Effect had. Countless playthroughs and still counting as well as sunk more than a 1000 hours into the multiplayer. I feel deprived what once was and what I yearn for. I whole heartedly enjoyed the multiplayer despite its flaws because I loved my quarian infliltrator and the various weapons I could use. If the multiplayer were added to the Legendary Edition, I would drop another thousand hours in a flash.

What's awesome about Warhammer 40K is that it's pretty much the MCU of sci-fi. What's aweful about Warhammer 40K is that it's pretty much the MCU of sci-fi.

I feel the same way about the Ace Combat series tbh. Strangereal is just too good of a universe to be left unexplored. I wouldn't even mind a shift in perspective, shame that stealth spin-off set in Sapin never got out. I'd enjoy it even if it sucked as long as I got to see more of the world I fell in love with.

I am jealous of Warhammer, but i also recognize that the world needs more Mechanicus.

I’m a very casual Warhammer fan, but some of my friends are die-hard, own multiple armies, have entire shelves of painted minis, own even the shitty games, know all the lore and read lots of the books fans of Warhammer. Mechanicus and Total War are some of my favorite games and I’m glad my friends are huge 40k nerds so I could get to play them. And hey I’ve even played some of the actual tabletop game before. Although I’m way too broke to actually own my own armies. Would love to paint minis, but once again.. I’m broke. Also Sigmar is the better tabletop game and world bc Skaven :)

As much as I love both Warhammer 40K and Fantasy, I've grown to resent Games Workshop and their business tactics as of late. The sheer amount of fanmade content that they've C&D'd is insulting and has jaded many of their fans, and losing their faith on the company. I love the franchise, but hate the company. I love you too, Raycevick

Thank you for acknowledging transformers war for Cybertron that's and series is so underrated

As much as I love Mass Effect, it's possible that flooding the market with several different genres of games and media under a big IP could lead to something similar to Star Wars fatigue.

Most Warhammer games get sold on the simple fact that they are a Warhammer game, because the overall gamers that don't really know or care about the setting don't really play 40k games. ...Or anything else from their franchise for that matter.

Love you, Raycevick. Please keep being awesome, but I know you'll excel at that.

Meanwhile, Warhammer fans are Jealous of pretty much any game series. Because of every 10 warhammer games, 9.5 are shit. Edit: and after watching the video, it's exactly what it's about....

Warhammer 40K Lore is one of the most extensive things I have ever experienced. There are entire segments of lore about the weapons for Emperors sake. I love 40K. I'm in love with it. The 40K games are complete hit or miss. But when they hit. THEY HIT HARD and they hit hard with a Vengeance. But when they miss. it feels like playing a wet Noodle. It's garbage. But 40K is still my most favorite universe hands down.

I will just say this, Warhammer is actually two different properties with 40k and fantasy, you might like one more then the other or not even care about one at all. It's also like saying "Dragon age games and Mass Effect games are the same franchise".

You mentioned War for Cybertron in the video. That game is my favorite game of all time. Transformers is my favorite thing ever, and it’s like you said. It’s a window into the universe I love the most. A well made window at that. Fighting on the ground during the Cybertronian great war was something I always dreamed of as a kid. And WFC delivers so well. Cybertron is represented amazingly in the game. The combat is fun and fluid, voice acting is top notch, story is fantastic. I wish other franchises I love could get games on par with WFC. But they probably never will.

Mass Effect seems like it would be a prime candidate for loads of other games, like maybe a Space RTS, similar to the likes of Homeworld or a squad based one like Company of Heroes/Dawn of War II or an XCOM-style one. Or there could be a game focused on a Space Bounty Hunter before the Reaper stuff happens, maybe playing as a space detective? Heck you could even play as a Rogue A.I./Illegal A.I. that is in hiding to avoid being terminated? At least some other Sci-Fi universes like Halo made an attempt to expand the scope of its games with the Halo Wars games. And XCOM gave us that fun sequel game about playing as a human/alien mixed Swat team.

I find it WILD that nobody can talk about Warhammer and NOT use the Mechanicus soundtrack. It's that freaking good. I truly agree that there are universes that need the love and care that Warhammer has received but won't. But fortunately I think mass effect is on its way there, but it is currently in its infancy

Dawn of War 2 was my entry to the franchise. I became so unhealthily obsessed with it, scrounging even the wikia for every bit of information about it. Apparently, I even shouted, _"FOR THE EMPEROR!"_ one time in my sleep, according to my brother who happened to heard it.

your editing is getting better

2:56 - 3:03 Since you brought up an anime/manga series, I must say that as a fan of _Legend of the Galactic Heroes,_ a part of me feels the same way. But thanks for the _Black Lagoon_ mention, as I've now another series added to my watchlist!

*warps in from the future* And you can add to the pile a Twisted Metal-esque racing game featuring orks and an RTS featuring the *other* Warhammer fantasy franchise!!

When your favourite youtuber makes a video about your favourite franchise, you know it's gonna be a good day! You just rule sir ☺️

Sorry mate. Can't help we are being exploited yearly. It's also far less of an event when a warhammer thing drops. But when a mass effect product drops, its a big deal. The lack of good ME books is a problem next to stuff like Horus Heresy and all that.

great video, I really feel your pain on lack of content as a huge fan of the Metro and S.T.A.L.K.E.R series if not for the amazing modders that keep remaking stalker I don't know what i'd do. I just can't get enough of that post apocalyptic old east european vibe

I have been fan of 40k through RTS games, imo, the RTS games were really great, but then I got into books and the my GOD... THE BOOKS ARE JUST INSANE AND EPIC

I know it’s cliche at this point - but warhammer really does have something for everyone. I myself consume its world through little dark age edits, grimdank memes and reading 17 page wiki posts about a single battle set in one day in a setting that’s spans tens of thousands of years. From someone who only occasionally peers in from the outside: there’s really nothing quite like it

As as halo fan, I feel a bit as you said in the video, I hope one day some team other than 343 can reclaim the mantle and put out works we all remember and loved from the Bungie era.

I've been saying this since my first time on the Citadel; probably around the time I was getting lost trying to find the quarian, but I wish they had made a game set entirely on the Citadel. The five wards and the presidium would be the explorable, and we would play as a rookie detective in C-Sec, at a time after the first contact war but before ME1. You could pick from any/most race/gender. The main story could be tracking down a serial killer, crime boss or something. A neat tutorial sequence that teaches you gameplay could be assisting Garrus take down Dr Saleon.

I'd have to say the Horus Heresy and the Ultramarine books got me into 40k. Sadly I've never been able to afford the models, because they are bloody overpriced...

I like to imagine Raycevick at the bioware offices front desk slowly walking up without a word. The secretary looks up at him and asks "Can I help you sir?". And like the scene of Kylo Ren vs Luke he screams at her "MORE!".

I'd love to see Raycevick's take on the BattleTech universe.