worse. I doubt spock did not know an emotional hit was coming when that door opened and uhura made the suggestion. it didn't prep him. as the followup song "I'm The X" proved. but he knew
To be fair, Spock gets back at her by just pretending she doesn't exist to him for basically the rest of the time they're in Starfleet together. So there's that.
Spork absolutely knows that he's forcing an emotional reaction in public. He knows that this may cause emotional fallout, but logic dictated that this was the most reliable way to quickly create a song. It was also logical to pick a situation where he was the one hurt by the fallout, as manipulating a song that hurts someone else would be unethical.
Notice how just as Christine says, "If I need to leave you, I won't fight it," her face turns to guilt, because she knows this will hurt Spock, but she can't hold it in.
"Well, I think Christine mainly did that because of that damned future boy, Brad Boimler. You know, saying to Christine that it's weird for Spock to have a smile and all that, and how he is important to the future... without her.
I love how they went with a soul/jazz style for this one, and Spock's is more rock ballad. Chapel is such a free spirit, and Spock is the resident edge lord.
I absolutely adore her voice. Most of the cast has incredible (a few professional) voices, but something about the smoky quality really hits my buttons. Just fantastic.
Watch Erika's face at 0:59 when Spock asks why Christine didn't inform him. She closes her eyes because she knows the pain that is about to befall. That's brilliant acting right there.
I live for these little things! It started when I was a child in the 50s. Watching TV, actors would just give a "Look" their eyes and facial expressions would convey a message. To me, this is very cool. Like they say, if looks could kill...
Definitely THE most persistent "ear worm" of the episode for me. I can't get the tune out of my head. I walked thru the halls at work today with it playing in my head constantly.😆
It’s hard not to feel sorry for Chapel. Her hard work paid off and she thinks her career is going to really take off. But in 10 years, she’ll go back to being a nurse on the Enterprise, looking for a missing fiancé who’s replaced with her with a younger, attractive android, while also becoming an android himself. And if that weren’t painful enough, she’ll have to work alongside an ex-boyfriend she’s still in love with but who no longer wants her. Eventually, she’ll become a doctor and be assigned to the Enterprise, only to be pushed aside when the previous CMO returns. “The possibilities are endless.” Indeed. They just aren’t all good.
Like... No? She was a fiancee of another, who disappeared, she was never in true love with Spock, stop spreading BS. Get to know anything about Star Trek before you comment it.
@@Gr3goriusKorby was a nut. She fell for him because he was smart but in the end he was even less approachable than Spock. Chapel just didn't know what she really wanted. That being said, there are references to Sarak's son being married in TNG, so maybe Spock and Christine figured it out?
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 Yeah I know, but they were obviously written before this series. It's possible that eventually the writers of one of these series will reveal that Spock married Chapel. SNW has made this idea possible.
I think Jess Bush's voice is my favourite thing about the episode, I like the breathiness and roughness of it, I wanna find more singers with voices like her
I don't think you guys realize the point of this comment. OP is saying Jess Bush has a great voice, which is surprising as she isn't a singer. It's not like they were saying Jess is better than a professional singer.
Sam Kirk is the MVP (most vibin' person?) he's always in the back grooving to the music, even in the klingon-pop number :) But I really love this number and Spock's dark reprise in Engineering right after
RU-vid must have 1,000 comments about the actor playing Sam Kirk. I hope that the producers see them and give him his own series. He exemplifies the "be the best third background cowboy" advice.
@@Patricia599lot of karma with these three. Spock gets together with Chapel as soon as T’Pring dumps him as if his relationship with her meant nothing. Then Chapel dumps him for her career as if he meant nothing. Later, her fiancé replaces her with an android sex toy as if Chapel meant nothing. Finally, T’Pring finds herself a new lover as if her renewed engagement to Spock meant nothing.
@thegrimmretails3777 agreed, I really hope the strikes resolve in their favor. The other details matter of course, but the writers really are the heart of the show making process.
NuTrek writers, and "good", do not go in the same statement. You must really enjoy when they needlessly turn decent characters in pointless homewrecking sluts?
I’ve been thinking about this comment for like a week and I can’t figure out why them adding camera obscura into a lyric is notable. Can you please explain this comment haha I am feeling very silly not getting the reference
@@DreamPainter54 It's just about them leaning into some deep ideas to give the songs a depth that most don't think about. There is Thought and Ideas behind their writing and it is so lovely.
This news really changes everything A distant dream becoming real I convinced myself it wasn't happening And now I'm surprised how good it feels I worked so hard for this and now the fellowship sees me as one of their own the sky is the limit my future is infinite my possibilities are endless I'm ready Drinking every second of the joy A success arriving overnight Not really I've been seeing life through camera obscura Now my canvas is wide as the open horizon I worked so hard for this and now the fellowship sees me as one of their own the sky is the limit my future is infinite with possibilities It's freedom and I like it my spark has been ignited if I need to leave you I won't fight it i’m ready i am ready i’m ready i’m ready i’m ready.
I will say, the first time you listen to it the song feels regular length, but once I listened to it more I started thinking it was so short! The way the brain works, amirite XD
Ouch for Spock. My GF's favorite character was Chapel till this song, at which point she was hoping an air lock failed with her in it. In her mind the entire Spock/Chapel relationship was Chapel's idea and pushed by her and now just being brushed aside in a juvenile way. Spock was obviously invested in the relationship and trying his best to make it work (including trying to show more emotions) only to be the last one told of her fellowship acceptance and this song thrown at him for a 3 month time she would be away from the ship. Getting broken up via song where your ex says she loves the freedom of it has gotta hurt.
To be fair, Spock does have a woman on Vulcan waiting for him. I think Chapel remembered this and decided to cut it off before it became something more. She didn't want to be the side piece as it were.
@@MultiGamingNetwork03 Chapel already knew she was the side piece going into the relationship. Literally, she tried to pull Spock from T’pal multiple times.
This was such a crazy, joyful episode, and "I'm Ready" was my favorite number. I'm sure there are old-school Star Trek purists who harumphed from start to finish, but I love that this show isn't afraid to take a chance. (The same goes for the Lower Decks crossover.) As far as I'm concerned, the only thing wrong with Strange New Worlds is that it only has ten episodes per season, so now we'll have to wait a year (and probably longer, thanks to the strike) to see more.
I was harumphed by the rebooted JJ verse movies for being dumb, depressing, or usually both. And words are insufficient to describe what a trainwreck Discovery has been. This show however, plus Picard (Season 3 only!), feels like the first decent Trek we have gotten in nearly 20 years. I would consider myself a Trek purist, but this I think was done well and captures the spirit of Trek while trying something new. I totally appreciate that.
i'm part of a Discord of a trek podcast, and i think most people in there hated this episode but i would disagree. I loved every second. I'm glad that SNW is taking chances and being bold. I don't want a TNG or TOS clone. If I wanted that, i would just watch TNG and TOS
This old school Trekkie can’t decide whether this episode or “Those Old Scientists” is the highlight of the entire series. I bought the soundtrack and listen to “How Would That Feel” (my personal favorite) and “I’m Ready” almost daily. Don’t worry, you’re not alone. The grumpy naysayers are the loud ones, but a lot of us are eternally grateful to the producers for this banner second season AND this episode. 🎉
I've only seen the episode Paramount released on YT a while ago and some clips from the show. On the strength of that, I have bought the Blu Rays. It feels like this and Lower Decks are the only proper Star Trek to have been made (I may have to wait a while longer before I'm willing to watch any of STP, even going direct to season 3).
Great voice. Didnt realize it was using the same tones as Spock's song. On the other note, its interesting how the character tries to later get back Spock years later. Ship's sailed I suppose
Now go and play "I'm The X' at 1.25x speed. The same tune. Also starts with the exact same line. This was no doubt intentional - to have two perspectives using the same song.
Didn't realize that the music is the same as Spock's, "I'm the X". Chapel makes her point. It's interesting that Uhura is witness to both of these events.
Oh gosh, this is like Amy Winehouse's Rehab song. She sings that she wont go to rehab for the addiction, Amy then passes away from drug overdose. She doesn't see the risk of the drugs on her. Similarly, CHAPEL doesn't see the possible relationship she could've had with Spock. And then the relationship dies, and she returns to a starship with a man who doesn't love her back.
Its a sign im getting old, watched series two on catch up and I couldn't work out where I recognised the new engineer 'Pelia' from, then it dawned on me...... the 1988 film Strooged, the Ghost of Christmas present that crazy 🧚♂️ was brilliant Carolyn Laurie Kane 👏 😅
The was the best number from the whole episode. The music, the singing, the dancing/choreography, the acting/emoting, everything was perfect. Well, except for Spoke getting totally hosed, but as a musical number, this was the best of the whole episode. Well, this and the Klingons 😂😂
That was the point. They were trying to figure out how to gauge when the singing starts and what would cause it, because before that, the only things that would trigger the music is sad ballads and negative emotions. They wanted to see if something not as such would do it as well, and it did.
This episode (Or at least what I've seen on YT) reminds me A LOT of the musical episode of "Buffy." The songs that each character (or ensemble) performed, were reflections of what they were going through. This episode is a masterpiece!
Maybe I'm missing something here but we are only talking about her leaving for a three month fellowship. What's the big deal? At this point there is not the slightest hint of the future romance between her and Corby. There is currently no reason for Spock's heightened emotional response. M'Benga said, "What will we do without you for three months?" implying she is expected back.
I think the reason for concern on his part is that the news came in and and she chose not to tell him. He only found out after half the crew was celebrating. And when he confronts her the only response is "Can we talk about this later?" Clearly, he was more invested in this relationship, then her, and it hurts.
She already knows from the Lower Decks crossover that in the Spock has to be unemotional to accomplish all the great things that it is his destiny to fulfill. Boimler doesn't know who she is, the future history doesn't remember her as part of Spock's life. That means their relationship is doomed. It took multiple episodes but she is ready to move on, for the sake of the future.
@@chazmania3644oh please! She's selfish, it's been established in past episodes. She definitely doesn't want to be tied up with someone... anyone that interferes with her dreams. It's doesn't make her a bad person, just selfish. Kirk is also a career driven character. Like her he puts his selfishness above individuals.
@@davidcorreia3901Agreed. Nothing wrong with wanting to pursue your career but at least tell the person that before publicly singing about how you’re gonna leave them.
Crazy good. I have been watching Star Trek since the 1960's and this is cool. This is like La La Land got lost on the space time continuem and ended up on the Enterprise.
These 2 series show how to do this sort of show right. Relatively simple but well constructed story lines, characters that I care about, relationships that work with each other and with a bit of fun. This show was odd but it 100% worked.
So TENSE then FUN and playful and AMAZING.. then at the end BAM.. in your face "If I have to leave you then I'm ready".. WOW.. what a mind fuck.. I felt SOOO bad for Spock.. my heart LITERALLY felt like it was being PULLED out of my chest as he turned to leave in hast.. damn you Christine Chapel and your logic.. THIS is the reason we have the Spock we have.. ALL THANKS TO YOU!!!.... JK.. I'd watch flies pretending to be James T. Kirk on the bridge of a VERY tiny Enterprise so who am I to judge.. lol.. :0
This is a very sad scene. But Spock is partly to blame for it. He didn't do enought to reassure Chapel when Boimler revealed too much about how Spock behaved (never smiling or showing any emotion) and how that made Spock the "key to intergalactic peace" in Boimler's timeline. Chapel was unnerved by it, and really needed reassurance from Spock that he wasn't leaving her and would remain true to her in their timeline. Spock dropped the ball (maybe because of inexperience). Even so...
So in this Space and Time life is just peachy and bursting into song gets it done. Meanwhile back in our part of the eternal void 2 space travelers are stuck for months and months because they brought a lemon and it wont start.
In Star Trek Into Darkness, Carol Marcus mentions Christine Chapel in passing to Kirk in a disapproving way (apparently Chapel was a former fling of Kirk's that he'd already forgotten about).
Is is me or is it annoying that she didnt actually give a response to Spok ? Spok: "Was it an oversight or did you intentionally not tell me?" Chapel: "I deserver this" Spok: "Yes but.." Chapel: "I'm ready ready" Spok: .....
Seeing this with some space from the episode, and thus mostly out of context. Chapel's "I'm Ready" seems to take on a more suggestive tone with regards to Spock. Chapel is horny for Spock, but the unspoken element is that Spock hasn't made a move and is placing himself in the "friend zone". Spock is trying to be a Vulcan, and bottling up his emotions until they grow stronger. This is why in Spock's number, it is Spock who is the "X", and not Chapel. What difference does it make if it was an oversight, or if Chapel intentionally didn't tell Spock? It is a difference of one or two degrees in temperature. Regardless, their relationship at this stage is not strong enough to hold on to over more practical concerns like a career. It is being "nipped in the bud". At best Chapel is replying "now or never", but the "now" was so weak, that Spock only heard "never".
It's a 3 month internship...you can be ready and date spock. Now we have to wait until 2024-2025 to see what happens with the gorn (thanks for making it a 2-parter...so dumb considering each episode was to be "treated as it's own movie"). Great episode, but you can't do a 90s star trek show today without giving us closure. Actors in the 90s ran on cocaine so they could put out the content we needed, not 10 episodes... Love the show, just needs a change in length for this format to work really well.
Shame the entire thing is shot to shit by the Gorn in the next EP. Whoops. And who comes a-savin' ya daaarlin'. OK, that was chauvinist but, cmon, it's Spock. We're not siding with the wenches who break the logic man's heart.
