I'm Skeptical About UFO Whistleblower David Grusch | Danny Jones 

no they can't. They are just physicists that play around with the equations from general relativity and electromagnetism that speculate some exotic matter (negative energy density) is what fuels these propulsion systems. Bob Lazar told us the same things 35 years ago, and we still have nothing to show for all that.

More than 250 eye witness accounts of something streaming towards TWA flight 800 before the plane went down. Yet, all that testimony was considered unreliable. The good Dr answered your question on at least two fronts. Eye witness accounts of the resurrection of Jesus (or something about Jesus). Eye witness has been proven to be terrible. I was lucky and got to experience the bear and bouncing ball video first hand… and it totally duped me!! There are things I’ve seen myself that I can’t explain. How could I possibly be sure about supposed witness testimony from someone I never met from centuries ago? We can’t even trust witness testimony today!

It's well known that people believe in nontruths. Look at all religions.

​@eerohughes The totality of the claims and the collective details of the strongest reports suggests that more is there than we are being made aware of. Exactly what that something is, who knows?

​@@mestanley1753 So, like in religions?

Nope! We should absolutely expect to have clear scientific answers, even if not conclusive as a whole (there's always unknowns within, and every known raises new questions. The flaw is in the fact that all we have are claims and not one shred of evidence for the events, but none for the possibility of it and often high probability against it! Now add all of the evidence for the human condition and the details that make our minds work and also malfunction, or just show their week spots, rooted in biochemistry, biophysics, neurology, psychology and more which are all exclusively primarily based on good and sound evidence, so the reality is that claims are not evidence, and the amount of believers in a thing is separate from the truth of it, whole regions of large cultures, believed that epileptic seizures were demon possessions, anything vaporous were spirits, and all sorts, and gods are in the tens of thousands many with well over a million believers some hundreds of millions now, and yet in most religions the same people that believe in their gods claim all others to either be lesser gods, mistaken to be gods, or and most often: don't or can't exist at all for being made up and theirs is the only true god... and yet not a single one has ever brought forth even a single shred of viable evidence even worth building an investigation around, and every attempt to, lead nowhere but more believers trying their best to convince people of the truth with no evidence! Now in the case of alien sightings and all of the other beliefs we also have very good historical evidence, record evidence, literature and all sorts pointing at when the whole thing started, which was once the notion that a bunch of that stuff wee see in the night sky are stars with planets most likely similar to ours and all part of a bigger picture, did the whole "Life on other planets" have it's birth, and the human condition took it from there! Although there are all sorts of archeological finds in the form of paintings, cave drawings and what not asserted to be alien related or to be not of this world, none of it has any mention of any of it in any literature, or records, "Other worldly events" as they speculated things like natural disasters and other events to be never had any other sentient being other than gods as an explanation, and most of the assertions are nowhere near conclusive and even attributed and twisted to fit in with the lore of the later 1800's and up!

I vote this “Best Comment of the Year”

He spoke of “Non human biologics”

Precisely. Seems like some pretty specific language

And yet the "Argument" is no such thing, he has a bag of unsubstantiated positive claims of knowledge, and no better for also coming without any evidence, and well, claims, mere attributions, free form philosophical conclusions, logical fallacies... are all not evidence for much more than the condition of a persons mind and epistemology which can be abysmal and all messed up for which we have nothing but great evidence is way more common than almost everyone with a brain want's to admit! So what's your point?

The thumbnail says "scientist debunks whistleblower's claim"..... I don't get it... where is the debunk?

He also presents zero proof.

Don't think anyone doubts they saw something, just no proof it's alien.

Exactly. They have it on radar, on video, and saw it with their naked eyes. This is not a mistaken sighting.

@@msyfrgsn So, show us the proof then.

​@davorinmestric969 this is youtube look it up

Typical comments from a bible basher .

Aerogel drones being tested in a test area.

​@@afeddenrofl What drones (18m long) can loiter for hours, 100 miles of the coast, come into earth's atmosphere from above 80000 ft, do (multiple) jumps from 28000 ft to sea level (in under 1 second) without sonic booms or an extraordinary impact wave upon stopping?

@@oliverkaiser794 Pretty sure it must be aliens then lol.

@@afedden It’s just a mystery.

​@@afeddenDrones don't go to 40,000 ft in a second.

exactly

Yes, unless they look like Barbarella and wear shiny figure-hugging spacesuits.

It's possible that the sci-fi films took inspiration from reports of sightings.

Seriously in a huge universe you believe none look like any in scifi? I bet there are aliens that live in the vacuum of space

I don’t doubt Fravor, but this is a specious critique. Keating has a broader range of knowledge about physical phenomena, particularly to do with things like electric fields.

Buddy modern air combat is done at distances where you can’t even see the enemy aircraft with naked eye. However i didn’t like the way Dr.Keating formed his sentence, but I understood what he meant to say and that is that trained scientists can do more objective data analysis than air force pilot. I don’t believe that Frevor lied or made up what he had seen, not once he called it alien ship. However there could be 100 other possible explanations on what that “tic-tac” was.

​@@Cardan011Also Fravor was not alone. They were 4 eyewitnesses in those two F18. And they were ordered to investigate the uaps because they were ordered to do so by the Princeton's captain after those objects had been observed by the Princeton's radar and snoopy team for days.

​@@oliverkaiser794right, insane how these details are glossed over. And the speed at which these things were detected travelling is insane. The material technology to stop it disintegrating let alone the technology needed to generate the speeds is mind boggling.

the problem is there's so much we haven't seen that just isn't publicized

@@deadaccount42069 So true. This whole UAP has a feel of a limited hangout.

He has made some loose claims when on other podcasts. He’s even stated that the uap tech is much like ours but took a different direction at some unspecified inflection point. Which means he thinks human tech is a possibility.

another lazy skeptic

@@thinkingallowed6485 zero proof. Zero.

Probably DARPA

They'd probably degrade somewhat in transit though which would explain the faults. Proves are certainly a valid hypothesis although we can't confirm anything at this time.

The same way I would trust you, as a trained scientist, to understand the complexity and dangers of space. (Sorry if I got wrong)

Better than living in fantasy land...but hey, everybody to their own

I'm happy to see Brian is just as immature as I am!

Thanks

It's perfectly reasonable to trust thermal targeting optics and radar sensors for accurately targeting and killing people but suddenly in this case that kind of sensor data amounts to nothing since it's not peer-reviewed? Ooook

What?

Tom Delong was basically the last live podcast Rogan ever did. Spooky!!

@@tychostation2423 interesting…..🤔

Do you not know how military thermal targeting optics work? Of course it looks slightly smudgey, you're not seeing the actual object you're seeing the heat signature (set to white hot or black hot) and it's the primary tool by which the military conducts surveillance and targeting. You can trust it for those purposes (which involve killing people obviously, hence "targeting") but in this case it's suddenly no good??

Can't believe you wasted a minute of your life parading your ignorance to the world.

He seems to be similar to Neal degrass

Why does a physicists opinion not matter here? It was a physicists work that was forwarded by Congressman Burchett during the initial Grusch hearing. Spacetime metrics or something. I forget the title of the paper. Did you disregard that as well?

How would they not already be in the solar system?

@@mestanley1753 we are layman. We couldn’t determine the acceleration and speed of a car without a speedometer. Or at the very least, we’d need to know the distance and time traveled and all we could get is average speed. Somehow a bunch of layman watch a grainy video of a tic tac, with no reference frames, and make claims like “breaking physics.” We don’t know enough to make those claims. The idea of aliens in our solar system is friggin exciting!! It’s just not the most likely scenario. At least not yet.

@tychostation2423 I'm not arguing the veracity of the claims. I'm saying if they were here they would certainly be in the solar system and be aware of our nuclear capabilities and tendencies. It shouldn't be presumed that nuclear signatures would he the cause of their awareness either. There are several other methods we ourselves could posit and who knows about methods that we just might not be able to understand at our current state of development.

That’s a fair scenario. They didn’t notice the nukes from outside the solar system. They were here when they first noticed them. Maybe some drone swarms have magnetic shells capable of field reversal, plus optical camouflage, and the only drone we saw out there was the tic tac getting thrown about with seemingly no propulsion system by many multiples of similar drones. It’s def fun to speculate. Unfortunately my imagination can only go as far as the next layman.

what amazes me is how much time some people spend on trying to convince people why "it's not possible" or "it can't be true" instead of trying to assist with the disclosure effort.

a plant willing to go to prison for lying under oath to Congress?

@@RoadPirateFilms yep.

@@Gojiraa666 😂

"Water your plants with leaks" - the CIA

Peer review testing claps all “it’s science because it consensus”. In fact science is usually against the common consensus. Look at how ideas are tested. They look to see independent test arrive at the same answers.

There is two LIGO if not three coming on line. And it only when they all observe the same event that they find G waves. Math is a language than shows relationships between thing. It has real power. And it’s our metrology that is getting so good that improved the data. I feel like you’re a novice in the physic field and going through the early stages of being skeptical. Which is the right mindset. But be careful to hold an idea and then find things to support your conclusion. Thats not science.

@@nathanroberson The ideas of science are different from politics. The Laws of physics are not the same as the Laws of Congress. The test of ideas in physics require measuring devices. The test of ideas in Congess takes time and requires good oversight to insure accurate reporting. As I reiterate, who's concensus and evidence? It matters who is deciding and judging. How it's decided and judged usually depends on who. Measuring devices that are unreliable are discovered how and by who?

@@nathanroberson Language can be used to lie. Math is a "language" because it is based on logic too. Just because Math is logical does not mean it cannot lead to error. Language can be used to literally say anything. Lies, contradictions, impossibilities, paradoxes. Language has a word called ignorance. While you can't know exactly what it is you don't know, you can...believe that you are ignorant of most things. You can even believe that there are unknown things that it may never be possible to know: the unknowable. What a word! Still not as ..puzzling a word as God. Gravity? Another thought in a Universe of words. Math too is belief.

@@kallianpublico7517 are you a anti science person? Is that what is behind your science FUD?

I never liked Brian. I feel he's fake and putting up a persona for RU-vid views

Yeah, he's not even a very good actor.

Brian is empty inside