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I'm 'Special'! // Identity First vs. Person First Language [CC] 

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@YTsucks300
@YTsucks300 5 лет назад
"The Gays" because, irony. But, "The Blacks?" No. No no no, that's never coming back. Lol
@shyguy3492
@shyguy3492 5 лет назад
Ashanti Smith that part lowkey had me rolling lmao
@cherrypop8921
@cherrypop8921 5 лет назад
I know right? I both cringed and laughed because the deep set part of me initially saw it as coming from a non black person and was like BE ON HIGH ALERT but know she isn't like that/didn't mean it in a negative way I laughed. It's true though because being black a woman and queer I relate to that and everything else she said. Like for example jokingly being called a "triple threat" because of the person I am. People act up about pc culture and saying they can't say anything/people are too sensitive but they really don't get how much what's funny to them hurts
@BahstX
@BahstX 5 лет назад
Margaret Cho..."Is he Da Gay!?!??!" Well, I don't know if he's THE Gay, Mom..."I'm here, I'm Queer,...I guess i'm the only one!"
@AntoinC95
@AntoinC95 5 лет назад
"SHUT. YOUR. FACE." I absolutely love those rare flashes of ferocity from Jessica. Yassss, girl, go get 'em!
@mxnjones
@mxnjones 5 лет назад
Jessica’s sass gives me life!
@alexdiduk4611
@alexdiduk4611 5 лет назад
They are my favourite parts of her videos...
@anastasiaklimashevskaya3298
@anastasiaklimashevskaya3298 5 лет назад
it's like she's so overly polite and nice, but omg if it's the last straw xD
@alexdiduk4611
@alexdiduk4611 5 лет назад
Anastasia Klimashevskaya especially if it involves straws 😂
@EM-ug8ud
@EM-ug8ud 5 лет назад
And that fiery gorgeous hair that is especially dark Phoenix today 😆
@EmmaRoberts2236
@EmmaRoberts2236 5 лет назад
Definitely prefer autistic rather than person with autism. Autism isn't something that comes along with me. It's not separate from me. If you took away autism I'd be either dead or a new person because autism describes how my brain has wired itself and you would have to remove or rewire my brain to get rid of it.
@thomasjoychild4962
@thomasjoychild4962 5 лет назад
Seconded. I'm autistic or on the autism spectrum, it is me and can't be considered apart from me. I mind person-first language less when talking about my health problems, though.
@lynxaway
@lynxaway 4 года назад
Completely agree! ‘Person with autism’ feels like other people have to remind themselves that we’re Also people, which, urgh. Awful.
@theartisticpurr2430
@theartisticpurr2430 4 года назад
I always say autistic when referring to my friends who are autistic. Its part of who they are :)
@OmqSparklez
@OmqSparklez 4 года назад
and especially with the history (and current... electrotherapy and shady brain surgeries are still happening) of lobotomies and electrocution to "fix" autistic people, the shitty ABA therapy practices to "fix" autistic people, etc... it's super important to further validate that its US not something happening to us.
@ameena6485
@ameena6485 4 года назад
YES!
@mckennawilliams6207
@mckennawilliams6207 5 лет назад
"Special" is weird to me but not as weird/gross as "Differently abled" or "specially abled" are. Like, when did "disabled" become a dirty word? I feel like, especially in the US, that the people who police the language around disabilities are people who the language doesn't apply to. Like, people who aren't disabled are policing the language that I, a disabled person, am choosing to use. It's one thing if someone else who is disabled asks me to use a certain language for when referring to them. It's another when an abled person is policing the language that I am using for myself.
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 3 года назад
Yeah. It generally seems to come from able-bodied/neurotypical people, like *they* are the arbiters of how we should identify. If someone who was disabled in some way told me they prefer person-first language or the term "differently able", I'd respect that. For my part, I prefer identity-first language and hate the term "differently able" - and I'd tell them that those are my preferences. If someone with no disability told me I had to use person-first language and that the "correct" term is "differently abled", I'd advise them to "go forth and multiply" - in far fewer words.
@catbeara
@catbeara Год назад
Reminds me of a lecture I had during college regarding laws that touch upon disabilities and mental health, etc. We got into this big debate about what terms were appropriate to use for mental health issues and disorders and whatnot, and whether those types of diagnosis should be allowed to be included on a person's medical files. It went on for quite a while and got a bit spirited haha, but my ultimate point was that if the term itself isn't offensive but is instead stigmatised... then changing the term isn't going to erase the stigma. It'll just be attached to the new term now. It doesn't tackle the root cause of the issue, which is the stigma itself. It seems foolish to me to focus more on the terminology than on destigmatising these issues and disorders themselves. (I say this as someone with mental health issues and diagnoses myself btw)
@ellygreen244
@ellygreen244 5 лет назад
Does anyone else really hate it when people refuse to call you disabled and say " person with different abilites"? Like I really really hate it. I get what it's trying to say, but ugh. Differently abled is the worst.
@womankisserjermaluvr
@womankisserjermaluvr 5 лет назад
some people hate it but ive also been told by many that "disabled" carries a negative connotation so i never really know what to say or if it depends on who's involved in the conversation
@shalacarter6658
@shalacarter6658 5 лет назад
Yaaaaaaaaaaaas! I hate that. It's one of the more annoying PC terms. *eye roll*
@tigerbread78
@tigerbread78 5 лет назад
I remember when it was physically challenged, that's a modern AND dated term at the same time.
@5avan10
@5avan10 5 лет назад
It's really meaningless. Doesn't EVERYONE have different abilities?
@PeachyBeins
@PeachyBeins 5 лет назад
@@womankisserjermaluvr so many words have "negative" meanings. Honestly just take the L ans call tgem disabled. And it's almost always fake woke able bodied people who say this shit or the tiny minority of disabled people who have been convinced by said fake woke abled people that just saying disabled is bad.
@MarieObscured
@MarieObscured 5 лет назад
I wrote an essay on this and presented it to my English class in college!!! The professor asked me if I would be comfortable being assigned the topic of disability while other we're allowed to choose a unique topic from a list he made. My professor saw it as an opportunity to educate others about disability and identity from someone who is actually disabled and identifies as such. I love love love writing and was super excited to do it! Because of this assignment I was offered a spot to write for the college magazine. Didn't take the offer since I started chemo for my lupus but it was a wonderful experience to explore my own identity and teach others the different ways to approach the topic of disability.
@TeaTime97
@TeaTime97 5 лет назад
I'm from Texas and much prefer being called disabled than person with a disability, mostly because I've only heard non-disabled people using the latter. It feels like they try to make my disability sound optional, as if the days I'm not in my wheelchair i'm just "a person" and in my chair i become " a person with a disability". I'm disabled every second, regardless of my mobility aids thank you very much!!
@susannam3923
@susannam3923 5 лет назад
I hope this doesn't come off as rude, because I really don't want it to be, but if you meet someone for the first time, would you want them to ask you which phrase you prefer? Because either of the two seem like they could be hurtful to some people
@TeaTime97
@TeaTime97 5 лет назад
@@susannam3923 personally I think asking them is the best way to navigate that. "Do you prefer person or identity first language" sounds awkward but I can assure you asking is much less awkward than offending someone. And if they're a stranger or someone youre not going to be interacting with frequently then it's best to just not concern yourself with that sort of deal. There's always work arounds that are simpler (like referring to someone's mobility aid instead of saying disabled) and a lot of times there isn't any reason for a stranger to be talking about someone's disability anyway.
@peggyallen326
@peggyallen326 5 лет назад
im australian and tend to use "i have a disability" or "(first name) has a disability", i actually find the "person" label annoying and the "have/has" is almost me owning it? But being called "disabled" can sometimes make me feel like that only that part of me matters? Still not entirely sure how to feel, and i don't feel offended by any of it.
@peggyallen326
@peggyallen326 5 лет назад
just realised i use the same terminology when i talk about other aspects of myself. for examply "i have a bad temper" "i have curly hair". maybe that's why its the most comfortable?
@Mewobiba
@Mewobiba 5 лет назад
To me it depends on which of my disabilities. I definitely say that I am a disabled person, and an autistic person, but I am also a person *with* ADHD and recurring migraines, who suffers from regular depressions. I much rather say that I'm someone who has depressions than that I'm a depressed person. I guess it has to do with what role the trait in question plays in my life; my depressions and migraines and ADHD are just crappy things that limit me, and losing any of them would change who I am, just make life a bit easier. If I stopped being autistic though, I don't know who I'd be; it's been so central to how I think and what I do and who I've become. Not from it being an identity really, but just because of how the specific traits has affected me. I don't care that much what language others use about me though, as long as it's not coming from a bad place. If it's someone I'm having prolonged contact with I might ask them to use a specific term but acquaintances or temporary doctors or whatever, I don't really care. Given how differently people prefer, I get that it's impossible to predict my exact preferences, and in general I'd rather they not ask because I don't want to make it a bigger deal than necessary.
@gnome5051
@gnome5051 5 лет назад
I saw the title without the quotes at first and was like "yes Jessica, yes you are! You are amazing!" And then saw properly and got it.
@Piti_Pingu
@Piti_Pingu 5 лет назад
Without your comment I woudn't even have noticed the quotes XD
@SpoonieScully
@SpoonieScully 5 лет назад
Funny how you mention the way that “special needs students” are disabled students but “special needs teachers” are teachers of disabled students. I was a TA for the “special needs” class at my school ( I can’t remember the correct term for it at the moment, brain fog) and I also have a disability but people would also praise me as if I have some kind of magic power to be able to “handle” working in that class. No, I just have human compassion and this class had a shortage of help and i could relate to the students. I loved that class and I looked forward to it everyday.
@sunglassesgirl
@sunglassesgirl 5 лет назад
@ Princess Scully -- Some states in the USA place "special needs" classes under the Exceptional Student Education (ESE) Umbrella... (yep, we needed to create additional derogatory jargon...)
@SpoonieScully
@SpoonieScully 5 лет назад
Sunglasses Girl oh my gosh that’s so silly to me. I’ve heard so many horror stories online of teachers from those classes being awful to the students. Luckily the teachers in my class were so passionate about their students and they were so selective about the kind of language they used. They never called them special needs and they were very transparent about each students’ disability. It was such a welcoming environment
@sunglassesgirl
@sunglassesgirl 5 лет назад
@@SpoonieScully -- We also have language in our federal criminal code that labels certain individuals with certain intellectual & developmental disabilities and mental illnesses as being a "mental defective". I wish I could say that I was making this up, but... only in the USA...
@sarahasbury6608
@sarahasbury6608 5 лет назад
In a lot of schools the "inclusion"(typicslly the name for a mix of special ed and "regular" students.) And have stufents with intellectual dodabilties and teaching a 6th grader that can't read/write a biology lesson can be rsther difficult
@SpoonieScully
@SpoonieScully 5 лет назад
Sunglasses Girl oh my gosh that’s awful
@ajoverholt7343
@ajoverholt7343 5 лет назад
This really reminded me of a time I was seeing a new therapist and I said "I'm bipolar" and she said later this worried her because saying that instead of "I have bipolar disorder "or "I'm a person with-" was putting the illness as what I was rather than simply a part of me. I was honestly baffled by the whole thing. I mean I told her I was bisexual and she didn't seem to think I was conflating my sexuality as "what I was." I can also say "I'm a comicbook geek" or (at the time) "an English major" and no one thinks twice or tries to police that. My Illnesses/disabilities are a large part of who I am and affect me on a daily basis. I shouldn't have to deny that.
@froyo5614
@froyo5614 5 лет назад
The title is an understatement... You are AMAZING!
@EM-ug8ud
@EM-ug8ud 5 лет назад
Yasss
@SuperPooped
@SuperPooped 5 лет назад
When people use handicapable or differently abled it just makes me think they’re uncomfortable with disability and want to find a way to pretend it doesn’t exist.
@thatjillgirl
@thatjillgirl 5 лет назад
Yeah, that's a good way to put it. I've struggled to put into words what feels off about it, but that's what it is. It just seems to inherently suggest that disability is so terrible and shameful that we can't even mention its name, let alone imply that someone may be "afflicted" with it.
@zomb_bree7950
@zomb_bree7950 5 лет назад
My teacher said it in a nice way, he didn’t wanna make ME feel bad because we were in a situation where other kids were within ear shot, and that’s the only time I’ve ever heard it be used in a good way 🙃
@SuperPooped
@SuperPooped 5 лет назад
Bree Mo it’s DEFINITELY possible to hear intent behind words, so you can totally tell if people are using it for a good reason!
@JLongb
@JLongb 5 лет назад
*Jessica is out here spreading knowledge and love. I’ve never admired someone more* love you!
@AnUnknownGoddess
@AnUnknownGoddess 5 лет назад
I teach a class that has been called "Special Needs" They recently changed it to "Learning for Life." I like the new name better. I call and refer to all my students by name. Unless they prefer a nickname. I truly enjoy watching you. Thanks for you help.
@savannah9712
@savannah9712 5 лет назад
AnUnknownGoddess The class in my high school was called Life Skills which I really liked. I was welcomed into the class room for part of my senior project (improving dexterity and emotional processing through art therapy with finger knitting). I can’t imagine calling another person, no matter their ability, by anything other than their name. The students of the class were all welcoming, amazing people. When I graduated, they threw me a surprise party with out of season Halloween decorations to reflect my emo style. Everything they learned when not throwing awesome parties and making scarves with me was a life skill. There was telling time, hygiene, cleaning, money skills, and on Fridays they even had a mock movie theater run completely by the students. I can’t imagine a better name for the class.
@r21167
@r21167 5 лет назад
Oh wow that sounds much better! 'Life Skills' also sounds good.
@user-qv2qf1jk5o
@user-qv2qf1jk5o 5 лет назад
Oh my god, there was a “life skills” class in my middle school, I always wondered why I never got to take THAT class because I definitely needed it 🤦🏾‍♀️
@insertname1857
@insertname1857 5 лет назад
"learning for life" sounds a lot better, but imo it sounds patronising and childish still? at my school we just call it life skills, which is so much nicer sounding to me, it's not patronising.
@estromberg5153
@estromberg5153 4 года назад
That's pretty interesting because in my primary school 'Learning for Life' was the general name given to humanities and PSHE (personal, social and health education) that was mandatory for everyone
@HeatherMarMal
@HeatherMarMal 5 лет назад
I'm in Canada and I find we use a lot of identity first language. At least in the province I'm in. I personally prefer identity first language, but as you said, if someone else would rather I refer to them another way, I see no issue with that. Also, I find "special" tends to put a lot of disabled people on a pedestal. Like an inspiration porn type of situation. Which is just....ick.
@spriddlez
@spriddlez 5 лет назад
I almost always see person first language but it's one the one peer group I belong to. I think many of them took the same training which encouraged person first language.
@spirited_stories08
@spirited_stories08 5 лет назад
I’m also in Canada. And I’m a disabled social worker who works with disabled people. And my training always taught me to use this extreme form of person first language where you put the disability as something the person experiences so in my case it would be person experiencing a brain injury. Well I’m technically experiencing it I prefer brain injured because it changed who I am and how I experience life. When someone says I’m someone experiencing something they make me feel belittled like I can then turn off my disability and I do it inherently for gain or sympathy. Which maybe I’m reading too far into the situation but I have never caught flack from the people I support for calling them disabled, only from people who fill other support roles with training like mine. I loathe the word special. I use it with my dark humour because I’m full of moments of exceptional stupidity due to being brain damaged. I also really like that there has been a social shift to mindfulness about language especially in describing people, especially marginalized groups but I think it’s gotten really extreme and people need to worry less about offending in favour of focusing more on genuine connection but that’s my opinion.
@kayli9950
@kayli9950 4 года назад
Also from Canada! :) I am taking a class called Experiences of Illness, Impairment, Disability and Care where we break down disability, illness and impairment respectively and they do teach us to shift towards ALWAYS using person first language, but listening to you and a few other friends it doesn't seem to be an approach all that cared for by some in the community (ofc others may have and are entitled to their different opinions!)
@sarenap1409
@sarenap1409 5 лет назад
I feel you. My husband was born with a disability (legally blind), and some people thought I was crazy because as a woman, I shouldn't have to burden myself with taking care of him. That's literally what they said. I'm a super independent person, I don't need a man to earn the bread, and so on. I love him for who he is, and most of the time I forget he can't see everything. Not in a bad way at all, like I'm neglectful, but we just live our lives like normal people. No one realizes how it's just a "normal" thing, it doesn't affect every aspect of our lives, except with the fact that no one will let him work. Anyways, because I'm with someone like him, people think I'm some kind of saint. I'm the opposite haha. It's just one of those things where I didn't "choose" to fall in love with him, I just did. Also yes, I worry all the time that I'm saying the wrong thing lol. Even now.
@rdaisyd4678
@rdaisyd4678 5 лет назад
Sarena P I love that! You two sound great together and I don’t even know you 💕
@sarenap1409
@sarenap1409 5 лет назад
Thank you! ❤️ We've been together for 9 years, married for almost 5, and I can see myself spending the rest of my life with him for sure!
@elenachristian9860
@elenachristian9860 5 лет назад
It is so hard to find the right person. Do people really still write their partners off because, "burden"?
@thebestwillow
@thebestwillow 5 лет назад
I agree about "autistic person". My autism makes me more different from most people than other people, and that's a big part of why I am so valuable in society. Essentially. I rock. Other than that, I prefer person first language. So I guess I am an autistic woman of questionable sexuality and gender identity, who also has PTSD and developmental co-ordination disorder. Lol. That really gives an idea of how complicated I am.
@dutchik5107
@dutchik5107 5 лет назад
Isn't co ordination also a symptom of autism. And hey. Us autists are more likely to have a different sexuality or gender identity. I don't know why but something i hear often online. Especially for autistic females. You are not THAT different. Because it together is more common. Except for the PTSD, I'm sorry you have that
@theblogmms
@theblogmms 5 лет назад
I feel like lots of people without a disability get so caught up in the 'correct' language to use that it becomes quite patronising to a disabled person, and embarrassing for the person trying. For example when someone without a disability tries to 'correct' someone with a disability about how they're referring to themselves, or to others with disabilities. I remember this happening a lot around when Stephen Hawkins died! Surely we should just ask the person how they prefer to be referenced/called, and just follow that? I also think a lot of people without disabilities try to hard to use words to make it sound like people don't have a disability, or anything different about them- when these differences do need to be recognised so that the person can get the best help they can to live the best life they can surely? Using the right terminology doesn't mean using terminology that completely ignores the persons needs and differences, but terminology that treats the people with the differences with the respect they deserve, the respect everyone no matter what their differences should receive. I am however someone without a disability, so I realise that I might not have the entirely correct perspective here, however from my own experiences with someone with a disability, and from watching Jessica's videos, this is the sort of opinion I've picked up :)
@spacecat_scribbles
@spacecat_scribbles 5 лет назад
You are special. Not because you're disabled, not because you're gay... etc. You are special because you're a lovely kind person who spreads joy and knowledge to many people! You are a beautiful soul and I'm so glad I found your channel. Just your presence through a screen is comforting and can always put a smile on my face. Thank you for being you. 😊 (This whole thing is very sappy, but I'm going to post it anyway :D)
@alexisreve1
@alexisreve1 5 лет назад
Your curls look especially voluminous today, beautiful :)
@crisnemitz1606
@crisnemitz1606 5 лет назад
I agree. Just gorgeous! I think we need a tutorial!
@MissBee13
@MissBee13 5 лет назад
Count me in as a “Me Three”.
@KittleKattle22
@KittleKattle22 5 лет назад
I have no idea where I stand on the semantics for my own situation. I mean, I definitely have mental disabilities (anxiety, depression, ADHD; or the weird wiring trifecta as I call it) and I just got diagnosed with a relatively mild form of hEDS. At this point, I don't feel super "disabled" physically, but I recognize that's likely to change down the road as my joints are definitely creaking/aching somewhat prematurely. I think I'd feel a little weird calling myself disabled at this point, but am okay with saying I have disabilities, and I'm not sure why. Hmm. Definitely something to think about. On a slightly different note as far as the airport services go, maybe it would be better to call themselves "Accessibility Services" or "Accessibility Assistance" instead of Special Assistance. I think just "Assistance" might be a little unclear and might attract people wanting help with changing tickets or seats or whatever. At least in the U.S., accessibility is a term that's understood and hasn't been politicized (yet). It's a fairly neutral and unbiased term as far as I can tell.
@JemPatrick
@JemPatrick 3 года назад
I'm in a very similar situation. I probably have a pretty mild form of hEDS as well, which mostly just causes pain in my case, so if I were to use either terminology, I would probably go with person first. The way I see it is if it's something that you would jump at the opportunity for a "cure" of some sort, person first would seem to make more sense, where it's not part of your identity, it's just a condition that's making your quality of life worse. Whereas, if it's the kind of "disability" that you wouldn't want "cured," such as many people with Autism or deafness, etc. feel, then label first would seem to make more sense, where it's just who you are, rather than something that solely makes life harder or worse. I would definitely fall into the former camp though, so that's just my two cents, so there's a decent chance that no one agrees with me on that, which is fine. Also, I agree that "Accessibility" would be a good replacement for "Special" in those cases, unless such assistance was provided through the same desk as other forms of assistance, which it probably could. Though in busier airports and such it probably makes more sense to split it into two separate desks.
@ladyliza8443
@ladyliza8443 5 лет назад
It's amazing how a word thats meant to soften a blow can become something that sharpens the steel. I remember, when I was little, some other kids saying that they didn't want to play because I was "one of the special kids." Read: One of the kids in SpEd (special education, that's what my class called it). I definitely agree that we need to rethink the language we use to describe accessibility and needed accommodations. Autistic person/person with autism here (tbh I've never been partial to one or the other, I'm all "wonderful, you acknowledge it"....which kinda goes to show how painful it can be to have an "invisible" disability)
@Sacara13
@Sacara13 5 лет назад
In some ways, I do feel that person first language makes sense. For example, I have crippling anxiety. I don't like being called an anxious person, I prefer person with anxiety. It separates my disorder from me, making it less all consuming. But that's just my two cents. You can put me on r/nobodyasked. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
@nickyclarer
@nickyclarer 5 лет назад
Really interesting discussion. When I did my teaching degree (in Aus) and studied "Special Needs Education" (course title) we were taught to use person first language, eg Children with special educational needs. Recently I did a workshop with Drake Music here in the UK (who do lots of work making music learning and experiences accessible) and they said that the people they work with generally prefer identity first language. My experience was echoed by other colleagues who had trained as teachers. It is definitely tricky in education because, as you said, some children that have needs particular to them that are different to the general needs of the class, but not every learning need necessarily has an identity descriptor and some parents/students may not consider it a "disability" as such. For example, I needed special assistance (extra time and a writer) in my exams at school due to my chronic illnesses but I don't consider myself "disabled" (though at times my symptoms my be disabling). As in many situations, continued discussion and consulting WITH THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY AFFECTED is the way forward!
@beth7935
@beth7935 3 года назад
Ah-ha! It might be an Australian thing- I was a bit shocked that it seemed like almost everyone uses identity-first language, & prefers it, because I was also "trained" to use person-first language. There's a big difference tho- I worked with adults with intellectual disabilities, & virtually none of them even knew they had a disability, & many of them couldn't have told me what they wanted me to say anyway. So it was a case of "deciding for them", but in every other case, of course you use whatever language the person themselves would like you to use!
@RebeccaKatsuya
@RebeccaKatsuya 5 лет назад
I have mild invisible disabilities, & I know I technically am disabled but I find it difficult to say that sometimes because I sometimes feel like I'm not disabled enough to use the label. I'll clarify if I have to by stating that I have mild disabilities or that I consider myself as less abled. I would much rather be called disabled than a lot of the other fluffy labels I hear though. "Differently abled" would just annoy me. If I'm in too much pain to move or otherwise experiencing something disabling that hinders my abilities then that isn't being "differently abled" & I would much rather use acurate language to describe my experience. If someone else wants a different label then of course I'd oblige. For me personally I'd be happy just to come to terms with my reality & use whatever label fits me best. I'm not always sure what that is though.
@miaraavalin4795
@miaraavalin4795 5 лет назад
Rebecca Panayi-Sjotun thank you for sharing your view and experience. I to have (most of the time) a mild physical disability. I find it interesting to see your view and feelings mirrors my own. I find it hard to call myself disabled and hate when I have to bring it up (new school or similar things). At this moment in time I happen to be in a relapse and severely disabled but normally I’m not that bad.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 5 лет назад
I'm in a similar situation. I am technically disabled according to the laws of my country, but I feel I'm not "disabled enough" and that other people would think I'm exaggerating. I use "gesundheitlich eingeschränkt" ("health-wise constricted"; it's hard to find a good translation) or "chronically ill" for myself.
@RebeccaKatsuya
@RebeccaKatsuya 5 лет назад
@@miaraavalin4795 I'm a bit the same in that it changes, which I think makes it quite difficult to quantify. Sometimes it can go from being able to do stuff & just be in pain, to other days being unable to move for most of the day, so it is such a big variable. Lately I've been off sick to due to vertigo after a blow to the head which just adds to everything & makes me even less able than usual. When I do work I only work part time as work & occupational health recognize me as having long term disabilities, & I'm very lucky with how undestanding my place of work is. I hope your schools are supportive too. In a workplace I would pretty much always recommend speaking to the occupational health (or the equivalent wherever you are) & join a union if they are available. They can help you make sure you have all the support in place to help you, & working in a supportive enviroment has been so much better than when I didn't have that so much & can really make a difference. I don't know if there are similar resources at your school? You mentioned disliking having to talk about it, which I totally get, & in my case my work are going to set me up with a "work disability passport", which essentially means that rather than having to tell each new manager this documentation means that is already put in stone for me & my rights are protected. I don't know if there is equivalent for schools but I feel like there should be. That way your rights & your health would be protected without you having to have the difficult conversation each time.
@RebeccaKatsuya
@RebeccaKatsuya 5 лет назад
@@johannageisel5390 I feel like that all the time & I end up minimizing instead, & I think because they are invisible illnesses people just assume because I *look* young & healthy that I'm fine, but I absolutely am not, lol. I love the phrase "health-wise constricted" though. I've never heard it before but it is just really good & descriptive. We do talk of chronic illness but that doesn't really indicate the level of restriction, but health-wise constricted really shows that well. I think we should just start using see if it & society cottons on. 😊
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 5 лет назад
@@RebeccaKatsuya "people just assume because I look young & healthy" Oh, yeah, I also hate it that sometimes people say things like "but you're so young!" or "at this age already?". As if only old people can have chronic illnesses! I really don't understand this. I have been suffering from my problems at least since I was 13. The notion that young people are always healthy is so foreign to me, but some people seem to believe that.
@JLongb
@JLongb 5 лет назад
Special just seems so derogatory and condescending to me.
@JLongb
@JLongb 5 лет назад
😂 I mean good for you
@ev4728
@ev4728 5 лет назад
It depends on the contex though, doesn’t it?
@mom23js
@mom23js 5 лет назад
Same..
@rachelm9046
@rachelm9046 5 лет назад
I agree, but for me it's a bit different with children. If one is referring to a literal child as special needs, I don't find it offensive the same way it would be if one referred to an adult as such.
@JLongb
@JLongb 5 лет назад
puppie luver guess it’s up to the kid if they take offense?
@jessicaoutofthecloset
@jessicaoutofthecloset 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching! Let me know what you think of the word 'special....? You can find me on Twitter at: twitter.com/JessicaOOTC and on Instagram at: instagram.com/jessicaoutofthecloset/
@kaylaellis9197
@kaylaellis9197 5 лет назад
I never really gave much thought to the use of the word "special." But I will definitely keep it mind from now on! I am afraid to use the wrong language and offend someone but you help me to see that just speaking with someone about what they prefer is a good first step.
@shalacarter6658
@shalacarter6658 5 лет назад
Hello, Jessica! Basically, I think that describing a person is easier when putting the descriptor first, unless it is not necessary and is used without thinking. For example, if I see a group of white kids playing on the playground and there is one black kid there; I go out of my way to describe the black child by the clothes they are wearing. Although, to be fair, if a white kid was playing with a group of black kids, then I'm sure everyone would say, "that white kid." And, it is okay to say black. I just watched an episode of "Queer Eye" and the woman nominated was black and a lesbian. They got her to finally think of herself as a "strong, black, lesbian woman! "Retarded." Ah, yes, a perfectly good word that was wrecked for all of us. My daughter"s Individual Education Plan in elementary school included "MMR" , Mildly Mentally Retarded. That would have been in , oh, 1997? The American's with Disabilities Act is a joke. Yes, we know have plenty of handicapped parking places. I believe the number you have to have in your parking lot is dependent on how many spaces you have. So, great, I can park there and walk/ride up to a building that is not accessible. I think they need to put a sign below our village's name and population sign that says, "not wheelchair accessible." The only building that you can enter on your own is the nursing home. Not: The bank, the grocery store, the post office, the doctor's office, or the pharmacy. In fact, most of the doors are hard enough to open when you are not in a chair! The school is better. They do have an elevator. Cheers!
@Skibbityboo0580
@Skibbityboo0580 5 лет назад
I think most people can pick up if you're being genuine, so they are usually pretty nice about pointing out their preferred terms, whatever they may be. It requires a bit of patience from all parties involved.
@mom23js
@mom23js 5 лет назад
I have a hard time with "special".. because I want nothing other than for my kids to blend in rather than stick out due to stigma. So I call them: my kids whom have autism. I also feel because they are so high functioning that they are not disabled. They can do absolutely everything anyone else can do, but sometimes a little slower or I have to repeat myself about 5x for their brain to understand 100%. The main "disability" they have is social functioning and cognitive issues.. so I don't believe in calling them "special".. to my brain.. all I hear is "retarded". And it hurts.
@Wizard_Frog_
@Wizard_Frog_ 5 лет назад
Jessica Kellgren-Fozard Love your Channel! Disabled People Unite!🙂🙂
@Trekkifulshay
@Trekkifulshay 5 лет назад
I've been using terms like medically complex or disabled or chronically ill over special needs since too many assume special means stupid. Beyond that having a medical need isn't special and you're not a super human unicorn for not being an asshole to someone or for providing accessibility. People congratulate me for parenting my sick kid. God gave that to you because he knows I couldn't do it. So what you're saying is you'd bail on your kid if they got sick or hurt? That's nice.
@annaswanson5903
@annaswanson5903 5 лет назад
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻people need to talk about this! The term special can be very othering and even though it is used a lot I agree that for example “special assistance” should just be “assistance.”
@Michelala
@Michelala 5 лет назад
Accommodation is my prefered term. Assistance implies that someone is 'unable'. Accommodation recognizes that a person is able, they just need a different situation. For example, a person in a wheelchair can be perfectly capable of traveling on a plane on their own, but the environment needs to accommodate them with ramps, appropriately sized doorways, accessible bathrooms etc... It's the environment that is wrong, not the person.
@annaswanson5903
@annaswanson5903 5 лет назад
@@Michelala I totally agree with you and I would totally like to see us move towards treating everyone fairly. We're all just people and no one deserves to be othered
@Kloe
@Kloe 5 лет назад
"People who prefer identity first language" is really meta... Like, the identity is afterwards for a term that literally means that they want it before?
@20Unbelievable06
@20Unbelievable06 5 лет назад
I'm a disabled person, unless someone says it as if it's an insult or all that I am, then I'm like "no, person with a disability". I hope that makes sense to at least one disabled person?
@bluechord2928
@bluechord2928 5 лет назад
I get that with being partially deaf. Especially as "What, are you deaf or something?!" Is a common response when I ask people to repeat what they said
@NicoleSams614
@NicoleSams614 5 лет назад
I took an intro to disablity class at my uni, bc I'm disabled and it seemed interesting. It was constantly person first, the professor is disabled but I was like I'm disabled. I am a person WITH a service dog but I am a disabled person. Ya know. Just didnt agree. I dont carry a handbag that is my disablity with me. It IS me.
@Algo1
@Algo1 5 лет назад
I'm a Spanish speaker natively but started learning English so early in my life that I consider myself just as native in it as an American or British. That said, there are language barriers and cultural differences that come from my Spanish upbringing. That bit of context aside and, while I've been influenced by American culture more due to my location (Chile, South America), I do prefer British English and I would consider myself to be on the British side of language when it comes to this issue, since you simply cannot separate my disability from who I am. It doesn't define me in the sense that it's not the whole picture of who I am, but it's something you just have to acknowledge and put into consideration when dealing with me: I'm just not going to be able to go hiking with you, I'm not going to be able to run a marathon (but give me a wheelchair and I will), we may have to stop more often than you usually would if we are walking on the street to go somewhere, but if I'm seated and in front of a computer or on court I'm just as capable as the next lawyer in town. If not more, that's the judge to decide.
@darkwingchuck5005
@darkwingchuck5005 5 лет назад
That feeling when you're already watching Jessica's new video when RU-vid notifies you about it.
@jessicaoutofthecloset
@jessicaoutofthecloset 5 лет назад
* seriously impressed *
@likewowtara
@likewowtara 5 лет назад
I'm so glad you exist.
@zenzonerzz4789
@zenzonerzz4789 5 лет назад
What a complement lol XD.
@Hanni3Wanni3
@Hanni3Wanni3 4 года назад
Gotta admit this is my favourite hairstyle of yours! I need to try it. But my natural curly hair doesn't like doing as told
@vivienleigh4640
@vivienleigh4640 5 лет назад
Here in Sweden it's, as you say, a minefield. First the term "handicapped" (or to have a handicap) was the correct way to refer to a person with disabilities, then it was decided that that was wrong since it suggested that "the problem" was somehow attached to the person - it was a society problem, the society didn't take responsability for acessability etc - and the solution was to call it funktionshindrad, function hindered, a person that is hindered to function in the society, hindered by the society. After a while that wasn't ok because the hindered person didn't want to be "abnormal", outside of the norm, so the solution became "funktionsvarierad", a variation in functionality. A minefield no less.
@embergqvist7900
@embergqvist7900 5 лет назад
I hate it i just say disabled in english instead of handikappad or funktionsvarierad. Its funny that ablebodied peopke seems to decide what we should call ourselfs
@shalacarter6658
@shalacarter6658 5 лет назад
Wow! I will stay out of that minefield! :)
@miaraavalin4795
@miaraavalin4795 5 лет назад
I have found that the creation of new words is a result of the old ones being used in a disrespectful manner. I personally don’t mind being called any of those words as long as the person saying them are treating me and others with respect. I developed my physical disabilities as an adult but I saw this with other words growing up. Cleaning lady/man turned into local tender etc but if you talked to them most just wanted to be treated with respect just like the next person. I guess what I want to say is. Your experiences with words and what words are used differs depending on how respectful people have been in the past. If you are used to a word being used only in a negative way that is how you will see it and vice versa. When encountering a person and disabilities are brought up, ask the person in a respectful way how they feel and most will probably be helpful.
@daisychains6866
@daisychains6866 5 лет назад
@@miaraavalin4795 "I have found that the creation of new words is a result of the old ones being used in a disrespectful manner" Sometimes -- but lannguage can also evolve to allow people to express themselves better. Personally, I absolutely identify with the "disabled by society" thing bc I'd be better off living alone in a cave than trying to survive in society. Eugenics are so ingrained in US culture that we don't even have healthcare. I can't afford meds or visiting a doctor and I'm not legally allowed to self-medicate either. That's probably vastly different from what a person with "a variation in functionality" is trying to express.
@miaraavalin4795
@miaraavalin4795 5 лет назад
Daisy Chains absoluty. I do not envy American healthcare in the least. I wouldn’t survive without access to health care for many reasons and we hear far too much about people dying in America due to lack of access to healthcare.
@nelleporter7792
@nelleporter7792 5 лет назад
You’re such an inspiration to me! I have arthritis which limits me but watching you reminds me that we can be chronically ill and flourishing 💜
@Jesswithlessstress
@Jesswithlessstress 5 лет назад
Me too!. I've actually have a few different types. She helps so much. I love her positivity and refreshing realism. Glad she helps you too.
@AAIVE
@AAIVE 5 лет назад
identity first, i don’t want sentences altered in order to refer to me - makes me feel weird. ‘person with a disability’ sounds fussy and ‘handicapable’ sounds really, really douchey. i don’t make the rules! also in terms of special - there’s a show that came out recently about a lad with cerebral palsy literally named ‘special’, and i wasn’t entirely sure about the name either. haven’t seen it but point is, special isn’t something that i think we particularly need to reclaim!
@girlgoplayer
@girlgoplayer 5 лет назад
I have lost hearing in one ear & need to occasionally use a cane. I use the label HOH, I wear a pin at work that says "I'm hard of hearing, please face me when speaking." I prefer not to call my self disabled, but would mark it on paperwork.
@jadeintheparke1
@jadeintheparke1 5 лет назад
My mom tries to use the term “diffability” and I do not like it
@jessicaoutofthecloset
@jessicaoutofthecloset 5 лет назад
Wow, I don't even think I can SAY that!
@jadeintheparke1
@jadeintheparke1 5 лет назад
Jessica Kellgren-Fozard granted, it’s been a while since she has but she tried to make me feel less bad about my disability/less limited by labels and I just never got it. I’m disabled. It’s not good or bad, it just is.
@zarabp123
@zarabp123 5 лет назад
I prefer differently abled or "lessabled" (yes that is a made up term), I just feel like disabled sounds like I am unable to do anything (if you split up the word it literally means no ability) and there is plenty of things I can do and I don't want to be defined by my disability. I think disabled person is more patronizing as there is more to me than my disability, like I don't call my friend the small person she is just a person.
@queenlucysroyalmaid1
@queenlucysroyalmaid1 5 лет назад
Have you seen the TV show, Special? It really allowed me to hear the stuff that my mum used to say when I was a kid that bred internalised ableism. I'm really sorry that your mum used to use that term against your wishes, that is really difficult. :(
@queenlucysroyalmaid1
@queenlucysroyalmaid1 5 лет назад
@@zarabp123 As a disabled person, and a small person, I'm sorry that you've had that experience with the word disabled. I really feel in the disabled community there is a taking back of the word, and that it is now encompassing both "I'm legit disabled and that's my definition" and "I can still do things, I'm not limited (except by a dis-abling society) or defined by my inability to do X". I'm a small person, I'm 4 foot 5, so I won't be offended if someone calls me short or small. It's there, it's a descriptive factor. I am disabled, it's a part of me, it's a descriptive factor, but it doesn't limit me (unless society fails to provide a ramp!).
@VladimirSimone
@VladimirSimone 5 лет назад
Hi! I was wondering, could you do a video on shoes for us disabled vintage lovers? I wear orthotics and ankle braces (and walk with a cane) and have trouble finding anything cute thats also deep enough for my orthotics.
@missincognito452
@missincognito452 5 лет назад
We’ve always referred to my oldest child as “differently abled” since we’ve always tried to focus on her abilities vs her disabilities.
@forced2makethisbloodyaccou355
@forced2makethisbloodyaccou355 5 лет назад
Jessica! Those curls! Tell me you effortlessly combed your hair into that fabulously fierce updo. Stunning is an understatement.
@nicolenox7882
@nicolenox7882 5 лет назад
Jessica -as always spot on! I must say though the discussion about a spouse to a disabled person being perceived as a superhuman is an entire video of u get into the % of people who admit they would not even consider dating a disabled person. It’s rather depressing 😓
@elizabethoneill4802
@elizabethoneill4802 5 лет назад
I'm disabled and I'm completely fine with both terms, but I tend to go with disabled person, because it's shorter, but I find that I don't usually have reason to specify bc I don't generally need much assistance in everyday life
@julesvibe
@julesvibe 5 лет назад
Hi Jessica. I recently found your channel. You are such fun and informative! I’m a high school teacher in the US. I have “special education” students in “regular ed” classes. I refer to them by their name and help EVERYONE as needed because every human has “special needs” lol. That said, my nephew has dwarfism...is a little person. His name is Jake and he’s awesome sauce. I’m always concerned with not offending people. 💕 one student who uses a wheelchair was in my aquatics class. I got him in the pool daily and helped get his shirt and socks and shoes back on afterwards. It’s took some time and effort. He was always apologizing and thanking me. It broke my heart and finally I told him he WAS NOT a burden. we got to know each other so well and knowing him blessed me so much. He’s a cool kid! He let me know that I had done more for his self esteem than any teacher. I was honored. I treated him the way I would treat my own child. My non disabled sons had very different needs growing up. Anyway- keep educating and entertaining. ✌️
@jschoe23
@jschoe23 3 года назад
The way you said "chatty" made me literally burst into unrestrained laughter. I love your channel, you make such excellent content.
@AJ-hg4by
@AJ-hg4by 5 лет назад
Love you! I’m already excited just hearing the topic❤️❤️
@kaylaellis9197
@kaylaellis9197 5 лет назад
I love that your videos are so educational yet so interesting. Language is definitely weird but your videos help to sort through some of the weirdness. Can't wait for the next video!
@emmaRBC
@emmaRBC 5 лет назад
Love the bit about the doctor stapling a letter to your head! I recently purchased home insurance and the only occupation option which fitted me was "Registered Disabled". Which made me laugh, as if they issue us with special cards and we're all in a little club 😝 I find "disabled person" and "person with a disability" equally acceptable. I'm not super keen on "differently abled" and such terms as they feel overly wordy and exist only to try and avoid wording which ultimately doesn't actually bother me. BUT none of the terms offend me and I acknowledge it's a personal decision so I'll always follow what the individual themselves prefers.
@TherapyLizard
@TherapyLizard 5 лет назад
I feel like the whole special student vs teacher also points out that (at least with my “special”. Autism.) a lot people don’t realize or even think that we can be anything other than a student struggling by or they think it’s something you grow out of. (Never understood those people, guess successful disabled people scare them so much they just think you re-abled yourself?) I personally don’t have an issue with “special” as long as it’s not condescending and much prefer it to other... harsher, names. But that’s just me and I can definitely see how anything that’s used to dehumanize or other is bad. I just like to own it and turn it on it’s head. So what if I’m special? I’m one of a kind and that’s so much better than being boring and “normal”.😊 💕💜💙
@blockieran
@blockieran 5 лет назад
I prefer identity first language and I think I've been influenced by british culture as I'm european. I like the explanation for using identity first better for myself. While I can say I'm disabled or depressed, I can only say I have chronic migraines though, I wish there was an adjective for that.
@frocktopus9429
@frocktopus9429 5 лет назад
I don't know of an adjective but another name for migraine sufferers is a migraineur (I'm one too, hi ) x
@leshemartzi2111
@leshemartzi2111 5 лет назад
Recently I tried to explain to my boyfriend why I prefer using "disabled" over "special needs", as a disabled people who works with disabled people. I love the way you explained that 💕
@maghouinbeg5011
@maghouinbeg5011 5 лет назад
Jessica, you are SO special. It's your smile, your intelligence, your ever so charming straight talking. Keep being special. :o) I use to find using the correct language a bit of a nightmare. The 'correct' version can change quickly, and be quite different in various groups. I decided to not worry about it. Instead, I use respectful language, don't make assumptions, and give a warm, genuine smile. It's amazing how much people are willing to forgive when you are respectful and non-patronising. Some people have said "I prefer...", or they use person-first/identity-first language. When that happens I switch and use their preferred terms. I've started learning British Sign Language, and it's so utterly amazing how people's eyes light up when I initiate conversations in Sign. :o) It gives me a real buzz. Communication is fantastic.
@Liminal_Cat
@Liminal_Cat 5 лет назад
My mom was a resource/collaborative teacher for many years, but she mainly worked with young kids who wouldn’t have the means to discuss something as complex as this. It’s been interesting now that I’m older and keeping up with the disabled community enough to kind of explain things like this to her, as well as introducing her to terms like ‘neuroduvergent’ that they just don’t hear in professional settings. She really appreciates people like you, who are willing to speak so candidly about their lives & experiences to give her a better perspective, & it’s led to some really meaningful conversations about my own experiences as well.
@musicandmoods9322
@musicandmoods9322 5 лет назад
Yaaaay!! Another video to look forward to watching after work :) So glad I clicked that bell symbol
@jamietate3526
@jamietate3526 5 лет назад
Person on Twitter: ‘the jews’ Me: *dabs right out of there*
@sd-cy2cl
@sd-cy2cl 5 лет назад
That isn’t inherently offensive. Depends on the context
@sanityisrelative
@sanityisrelative 5 лет назад
@@sd-cy2cl 'the jews' is never coming from a good context on Twitter. Nothing ever comes from a good context on Twitter.
@geospiza9630
@geospiza9630 5 лет назад
big yikes
@jamietate3526
@jamietate3526 5 лет назад
sanityisrelative if it’s coming from another Jewish person it’s fine, if it’s not I’m void jumping in the opposite direction
@unicorn1655
@unicorn1655 5 лет назад
Why that's not insulting my dude. The jews are jewish.
@robinharris4594
@robinharris4594 5 лет назад
Oh my stars the bit where you talk about the R word and S word made me laugh so much because it's so so true, and your expression-full face said the frustration perfectly!
@juniperraven1386
@juniperraven1386 5 лет назад
Watching your videos has helped me realize that I do have a diagnosed disability that, were I not incredibly lucky, would have had a serious impact on my life. I have Convergence disorder, which means basically crosseyed all the time... which manifested as a complete inability to read because all the letters get superimposed on each other. When I was young it was an emerging condition; eye doctors were debating about its existence and insurance companies (USA) did not acknowledge it. I was fortunate that my eye doctor did believe in it, had an Vision therapist (basically an eye physical trainer) on staff, and my parents were able and willing to pay and provide transportation for my vision therapy. The first book I ever read was Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone; I went from being unable to read Cat in the Hat to finishing Harry Potter in 1 year. I still have the condition and it does affect how I function everyday; right now I have one eye covered so I am only looking at one keyboard, sometimes I have to have someone else type or write something for me because my eyes will not focus, etc. (and the cool ability to super impose spread sheets or images and easily spot any differences/patterns... which is surprisingly useful). But none of this really impedes my ability to do what I want, including college. But if I hadn’t been lucky on all 4 counts, I guess 5 if you count that the therapy actually did work as advertised, I would still be unable to read, or write... which is incredibly limiting in our society. So wail I am not disabled by my condition, it is interesting to recognize how easily I could have been. I am not sure where that puts me, I think I tend to use ‘I have a condition’, so person-first, because wail it is incredibly important to my life story and I do discuss it because it is important to raise awareness*, I don’t really recognize it as part of my daily life or identity. (Also condition person just sounds.. no). * (unable to read =/= stupid, also commonly misdiagnosed as ADD/ADHD, cause you try reading something in a foreign language you have no hope of understanding and see how long you can sit still and quiet for)
@lovisakrohn5100
@lovisakrohn5100 5 лет назад
In Sweden we have several different descriptive words. Handikappad =Handicapped is the oldest and least used , refers mostly to bodily disabilities. Funktionsnedsatt is mostly translated to Disabled but more exactly it means "Person who is less than Able bodied/who is not fully functioning" Finally there's the more PC, Funktionsvariation=Person who functions differently/whos body functions differently.
@blurry11bloomlisa
@blurry11bloomlisa 5 лет назад
Yes, you are!
@uncommonpurestbeauty
@uncommonpurestbeauty 4 года назад
You have completely changed how I think about "disabled person" vs "person with a disability", thank you so much for this video!
@DeDe6548
@DeDe6548 5 лет назад
I LOVE this video! You said so many important things especially about the importance of language. The very first thing I learned in my linguistics introduction was “language shapes the way we think” and it is so true even if in 99% of the cases we’re not even aware of it. And so yes, it totally is a mine field. ‘Special needs’ is used to mark that a person needs some form of assistance or accessibility features that an able bodied person doesn’t and I get that in society as it is right now we need a word for that because sadly it simply ISN’T accessible. But at the same time by continue to use phrases like ‘special needs’ we’re feeding into this othering and validating the difference instead of working towards a more accessible society in general that wouldn’t be in need of the (linguistic) differentiation anymore. And then on top of that personal preferences and experiences come into play when it comes towards our own feelings about certain phrases and that makes it all the more difficult to navigate. There certainly is no easy solution to any of this but thank you so much for this video and for highlighting the importance of reflecting on the language we use and why.
@tamaraandrascikova4423
@tamaraandrascikova4423 5 лет назад
The video just started and i already know it's gonna be great❤️
@liz-tastic.
@liz-tastic. 5 лет назад
I absolutely get concerned about using the correct language - but respecting what people would like to be called makes sense. It feels similar to the pronouns conversation in that sense
@emilylouise3394
@emilylouise3394 5 лет назад
My sister has Cerebral Palsy and when we'd be out with her at the mall or something and people would come up to us and be all "OMG Bless you so much for taking care of her" and the whole "you have to be an amazing superhuman to take care of her" mentality would shine through and it would always bother me sooooo much but I could never pinpoint why. Kinda felt like a backhanded compliment
@eryngresham710
@eryngresham710 5 лет назад
I absolutely love the things that you talk about and the way you educate about them because not everyone knows this stuff. Your happy attitude cures my depression also thank you for being you Jessica! 💗💗💗
@Jana-fc4gl
@Jana-fc4gl 5 лет назад
I hate that so many parents support this ableistic bs. They celebrate themselves for caring for their special snowflakes (
@mom23js
@mom23js 5 лет назад
I believe the term would be Munchausen.. wouldn't it? Biproxy.. "lookit me, my kids disabled"? But in a negative light?"feel sorry for me, my kids disabled".. I want nothing but normality for my kids, and I'm trying so hard. I don't want my kids looked at in a negative stigma.. but they are who they are.. kids.. with autism.
@Jana-fc4gl
@Jana-fc4gl 5 лет назад
@@mom23js It would be a form of Münchhausen if the parent makes the child sick on purpose I think. But it's good that you don't think that way ^^
@thatjillgirl
@thatjillgirl 5 лет назад
@@mom23js No, Munchausen by proxy is where you *intentionally* sicken or disable someone (usually a child) who would otherwise be healthy so that you can receive praise for taking such good care of them through their illness. But yes, some parents do care for their disabled children in a way that is very self-centered and seeks praise. But some parents do that with any kind of child. They want validation that their kid is a Great Kid and they themselves are a Great Parent.
@mom23js
@mom23js 5 лет назад
@@thatjillgirl yup.. I think it's gross.
@alexismontez4230
@alexismontez4230 5 лет назад
I think they're trying to make themselves the victims of their "so difficult" children
@liannedegraaf2616
@liannedegraaf2616 5 лет назад
I’m blind and will be flying from Amsterdam to London this summer. I’m terrified of how the assistance will go lol
@ThisGirlReviews
@ThisGirlReviews 5 лет назад
I wish you luck 🙂. My grandma is losing her vision and traveling for her was good. Don't be afraid to be demanding and say what you need.
@edyn6740
@edyn6740 5 лет назад
Thank you for this video! I'm a teacher in Australia, and in my training we had courses where we got actual marks for using People First Language (and marked down each time we phrased it as "disabled person" or even "person who is disabled" instead of "person with a disability" for example). The lecturer for this was not a disabled person (or person with a disability) and specifically reminded us that she wasn't. It's nice to hear a variation on the opinion that People First Language is inherently *always* correct from someone who is disabled. Videos like this are what help me to continually better my understanding for those I teach and work with!
@mariannemayparis
@mariannemayparis 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for addressing this - especially with travel. It's very difficult to explain to someone (a service etc) what your illness is or to prove your illness when it's invisible and to feel less than a person.
@katie6872
@katie6872 5 лет назад
I love watching your videos, I'm a new subscriber and I look forward to watching more of your videos in the future ❤️
@Lu4455
@Lu4455 5 лет назад
I’m looking forward to the video about how the word “problematic” is problematic.
@maxximumb
@maxximumb 5 лет назад
Is it problematic? Or is it just questionable? I mean it's certainly open to doubt and presents a problem, but it could also be described as precariously puzzling or even dubiously unsettling. Are we just complicating the problem? (it's at this point I'm in danger of labouring the point and exhausting the thesaurus, which is, in itself problematic)
@Lu4455
@Lu4455 5 лет назад
Maybe you should make a video about this! (I’m half being sarcastic, half being serious)
@wolf1066
@wolf1066 3 года назад
My cousin frequently gets people talking to her like she's a child when she's in a wheelchair or on her mobility scooter. When recounting some of the things people have said to her, she'll append "because I'm just a stupid fkn cripple, eh" - she's under no illusions about how many able-bodied people perceive her. It's actually shocking how many people - who probably think they're quite caring and positive towards disabled people - still have the underlying perception that someone in a wheelchair is some sort of underdeveloped thing that is incapable of full adult comprehension. "Differently able" is a phrase I detest with a passion. I have frequently railed against the term most vehemently, pointing out that my left ear grants me no *different **_abilities_* than any other person and, in fact, prevents me from doing things that many people are *able* to do - like hear what direction a sound or voice is coming from, or hear someone talking softly by my left side or listen to stereo music on standard earphones. Handicapable is just plain stupid. I personally prefer identity-first language. Person first seems to me like the disability is something I've got temporarily. If I get the 'flu, I'm not a "flu person", I'm a person who has the flu - and I won't in a week or so. However, I'll still have my disabilities and they'll still shape how I live my life as they've shaped how I've developed and lived my life so far.
@elkie3567
@elkie3567 5 лет назад
This was really well done!! I'm thinking of sending this to my professor, especially after our unit on person first language (we were taught that as a healthcare professional person first language is The Only Way to talk about your patients, which just doesn't seem right)
@JLongb
@JLongb 5 лет назад
*don’t dis my ability*
@AdhdandmeEmma
@AdhdandmeEmma 5 лет назад
Just love you 😍 and all your videos..... you have inspired me to start doing my own videos now.....eeeeekkkk.... adore this “special” .... I am too... special....lots of special love xxxx
@becdee2471
@becdee2471 5 лет назад
As a person living with a disability, a speech pathologist and a language nerd LOVES this video! So well researched :)
@shayelea
@shayelea 5 лет назад
I feel like the issue that “no amount of accessibility in the world is going to make my illness go away” could be its own video. Definitely something I think about.
@margaret__todd
@margaret__todd 5 лет назад
Oh, the "special" ALWAYS makes me cringe. I prefer person first language, but I always feel like I'm stepping (rolling) over toes when people prefer identity first language - and it's mostly because Croatian language influence... but also because of inspiration porn - I'm not sure if I can explain it properly, but I'll try: I've always and mostly seen identity first language in inspiration porn articles so it's really hard for me to identify as "disabled person". Because whenever I see a "disabled person does this" types of posts my heart sinks a little - because their accomplishments are "hidden" behind this big DISABLED thing for people to admire, and it just feels so wrong. Not everything I do (or someone else) or achieve is related to my disability - yes, I am disabled, and yes it makes my life a little extra complicated, but that doesn't mean I want to perceive all my successes (or failures) through the lens of disability. Ultimately it's the same as "gay" - each of us has their own preference and we shouldn't be mad about either. If someone calls me a disabled person, I'm not going to like it, but I won't be mad about it either, and I hope I'm given the same treatment when I call someone a person with disability and they prefer disabled person.
@thebestwillow
@thebestwillow 5 лет назад
If anything I think it's easier to love a disabled person than a non-disabled person. I have disabilities. Disabilities don't have me.
@SK-tk5lc
@SK-tk5lc 5 лет назад
Jessica thank you for your videos. As a neurotypical person who does not have/manage a disability, I just got a bunch of recommended videos of lovely people talking about their lived experience with Dissociative Identity Disorder, borderline personality disorder, bipolar disorder, autism etc. It is lifechanging, thank you for putting yourself out there to educate people and it really does a lot of good.
@SK-tk5lc
@SK-tk5lc 5 лет назад
Thanks @DissociaDID, @Olivia in Wonderland, and Ash Hardell/Ari Fitz for making beautiful informative videos.
@tiarasandjeans
@tiarasandjeans 5 лет назад
Thanks for this video, I’m reading through so many comments to try and learn :) I’m not disabled and I try my best to refer to people how they want to be referred to (my disabled friends and family are all different *shock* and they tend to keep me right!) That’s difficult when you’ve never met a person before and I work in a tourist attraction, which doubles as an event space for everything from weddings to meetings to conferences, so I meet so many different people everyday. I am a talker so I just chat to everyone who comes through the door. I just wanna be friendly to everyone tbh :) Pretty much sorted when it comes to chatting about blue badge parking bays, wheelchairs for hire, quiet places, ear defenders, helping a blind person around the building and so on... The only thing I truly worry about at work when it comes to disability and accessibility , this is probably going to sound funny, is calling the toilet the wrong thing to the wrong person. The disabled toilet? The accessible toilet? The toilet for disabled people? (FEEL FREE TO LAUGH AT ME but I’ve got it wrong so many times and it would be cool to hear a mix of what different people prefer!)
@klavierbarrette
@klavierbarrette 5 лет назад
This is very interesting to me as one of the most patronizing things I've experienced is being told to use people first language by a British professor of mine and truly believing that it was better to do. It made me suppress my identity as disabled (I have multiple ones so it's very much something that's integral to my identity) for a long time. I really do not believe she meant any harm but to hear that in the UK you guys generally use identity first language...I wonder where she got that idea. I do believe she had been here in the US for awhile.
@anniemayfield4589
@anniemayfield4589 3 года назад
Hi Jenna, can I use your comment on a project for a class?
@klavierbarrette
@klavierbarrette 3 года назад
@@anniemayfield4589 Sure, go ahead! Thank you for asking.
@anniemayfield4589
@anniemayfield4589 3 года назад
@@klavierbarrette thank you :)
@clairespahn6639
@clairespahn6639 5 лет назад
Oh I love this video already 💖✨
@TheVoiceinTheDarkness
@TheVoiceinTheDarkness 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for videos like this. As an Autistic English and New Media students who want to use my skills I`m learning, to normalise disability and be a voice for a voiceless. People like you are great role models and the type of people I love to learn from in terms of content. Also in Ireland (or at least some parts) students with disabilities are to be referred to as students with additional needs, it's a new term that teachers and special needs assistants (SNA), (a term that I think is starting to be outdated) are being told to use. I know this because my mums a SNA, so I have first hand information.
@annaw7
@annaw7 5 лет назад
Your videos are lovely, funny, educational and interesting. Dunno how you pull that off but i sure love them!
@ayannaheidelberg7319
@ayannaheidelberg7319 5 лет назад
Black American here. I definitely prefer identity first
@mxnjones
@mxnjones 5 лет назад
Ayanna Heidelberg Same.
@PochamaRex
@PochamaRex 5 лет назад
You know what annoys me? When people say “I have friends who happens to be black/insert attribute here” as if it was some unfortunate coincidence or abnormality instead of just part of who I am
@Rachel-nc8kp
@Rachel-nc8kp 5 лет назад
In my family, we say "ALTERNATIVE NEEDS".
@katierushworth5984
@katierushworth5984 5 лет назад
Rachel Thiede i would love schools to use that! Not “special education needs”
@Rachel-nc8kp
@Rachel-nc8kp 5 лет назад
@@katierushworth5984 yes, I found that it's the least insulting, without completely ignoring it. Especially because not all "disabilities" are similar. I've had to just push the term over and over and hopefully it sticks with someone lol. Petition for the term to be used in your school system. I think if you get at least your local alternative needs community on board they will change it.
@d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n
@d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n 4 года назад
I prefer to call myself an ADHDer, rather than a person with ADHD, because my brain definitely shapes who I am, and connects me with the rest of my family and many friends who also are ADHD. Also, I like how ADHD has shaped how I think, despite the difficulties, even though not everyone feels that way about their ADHD. It's a complicated relationship with my brain and how other people treat me because of it, but I really don't want that part of me to magically be 'fixed', I just want compassion for my difference, and some assistance to make my bad days a little easier.
@beth7935
@beth7935 3 года назад
I clicked on this SO hard!! I don't have a disability, but I worked with adults with intellectual disabilities- & in my phrasing, you can see where *I* stand on person-first language! But there's a BIG proviso on that: almost nobody I worked with knew they had a disability, & many couldn't have told me what they'd like me to say anyway. So I had to decide, & person-first seems more respectful to me, & was the professional standard. But if anyone says "please say I'm autistic, not I have autism", of COURSE I should & will say that! And I can absolutely see why people might prefer identity-first language- it does seem a bit like you're implying the disability is a negative. As for "the R word"... don't get me started. Say that around me & I'll make you wish you hadn't. That goes back to childhood- my mum taught kids with disabilities (mostly deafness), & lots became my friends, so I was very protective of them. And it does get personal- I don't have a disability, but I do have bipolar, & I'd really rather people say I HAVE bipolar than I AM bipolar. That's not my entire identity, thanks. But I'm not going to get mad about it. I only object to people saying shit like "I hate people with bipolar"- & people literally do say that, cos people are just fucking lovely sometimes. You learn to deal though- it just shows what an asshole they are. And it's one of the best idiot-radars ever :D
@midnytegoddess
@midnytegoddess 5 лет назад
I am disabled and honestly prefer person first language. I honestly wasn't aware that I had a preferance until I watched this video, but Jessica is right when talking about the language and the examples she uses. Very interesting video, I did not know I could get help at the airport, I will ask for it next time I fly.
@lunaudbjrg5457
@lunaudbjrg5457 5 лет назад
2 minutes ago! I'm early to a Jessica video!
@r0bw00d
@r0bw00d 5 лет назад
Oh? What's your usual appointed time to one of her videos?
@deborahorwig465
@deborahorwig465 4 года назад
Thanks for bringing up the difference between person-first and identity-first language. I had never considered that there was a difference. I promise to learn more about it!
@kathleend8611
@kathleend8611 5 лет назад
Jessica- your hair is so crazy long and beautiful! Well, and your content is absolutely amazing. You are by far my favorite RU-vidr 💕
@JLongb
@JLongb 5 лет назад
I really want the because gay merch but.... not out and not in a place where it’s completely safe to be
@meganmary1484
@meganmary1484 5 лет назад
J L sameee
@jessicaoutofthecloset
@jessicaoutofthecloset 5 лет назад
What if I made a version that said 'Because: Me'? You'll know what it means and people who know will know what it means but it should be safer to wear...?
@JLongb
@JLongb 5 лет назад
Jessica Kellgren-Fozard I’d absolutely love that!!!!!
@PhoebeFayRuthLouise
@PhoebeFayRuthLouise 5 лет назад
Jessica Kellgren-Fozard I bought the “Because: Gay” merch, and I’d also buy the “Because: Me” merch!
@JLongb
@JLongb 5 лет назад
I love how Jessica always looks out for her fans 💙
@JLongb
@JLongb 5 лет назад
My school uses the term life skill kids.
@KooblyK
@KooblyK 5 лет назад
As an autistic person with disabilities, I appreciate the mention and how you talked about it, which was spot on. Like, I don’t count autism among my disabilities because as an adult, there is nothing inherently dysfunctional about my brain’s wiring. I can do everything just fine. It’s other people who make shit harder than it has to be, for everyone involved. Much like you said, my POTS is my body hurting me, so, a disability. My autism has only ever been difficult because of how other people treated me, because I was Weird and Other and therefore in need of social correction (bullying). Nowadays, people only know if I tell them, which I’m generally hesitant to do because of how their attitude toward me can change. Or they’ll tell me I’m not actually, since I don’t match the depictions in media of a savant child in an adult’s body. *rolls eyes*
@Lavos243
@Lavos243 5 лет назад
I'm a disabled person from the United States and had never even heard of identity first language until I started watching your videos. You have really helped me accept my disability as a part of my life (I used to always see it as something to fight against which made it worse). Thank you so much for helping me accept myself!
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