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Asus ROG is entering the ring with their own Zen4 RDNA3 handheld, the ROG Ally, and we've got an early look at it. We won't know the price until closer to launch, but so far it's pretty impressive.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:55 Physical Aspects
2:50 Buttons/Triggers/Joysticks
4:02 Performance
5:00 Display
6:40 Fan Noise and Speakers
8:25 IO
9:40 XG Mobile
11:40 Raikiri Pro and Charging Brick
12:30 Gaming at 4K
13:40 Competition
15:04 Conclusion
16:46 Outro

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@scamperly Год назад

If this thing isn't absurdly expensive I'm interested, but it almost certainly is going to cost more than double the steamdeck.

@Skewel Год назад

"Absurdly expensive" I hope you know this is made by ASUS ROG.

@Sithhy Год назад

@@Skewel It also won't have the same support the Deck has

@malo6748 Год назад

I would say 1k - 1,2k.

@lawyerlawyer1215 Год назад

@@malo6748 i would consider that cheap for what it is

@tupadre6433 Год назад

it's gonna cost at least 4 times the steam deck

@Savor1979 Год назад

The fact that they’re not giving out the price of that item already tells me it’s going to be really expensive

@tarajoe07 Год назад

That's the thing with these. These companies don't understand the pricing aspect. The Steam Deck is a no-brainer. Mid tier gaming for less than any gaming laptop.

@MrFernand0007 Год назад

above 1k for sure

@KenzertYT Год назад

That, orrrrr they're still seeing if there's a better deal to be had for the internals--which would explain why they won't allow framerates and certain specs to be shared.

@yellow2683 Год назад

@@tarajoe07 it's not that they don't understand "pricing aspect", it's more so the fact that steam decks don't (or are barely) make a profit, it's getting subsidized by the 30% commission that steam takes from game developers.

@tarajoe07 Год назад

@@yellow2683 you say that but the competition is all more than double the price.

@avoton6020 Год назад

You know what really needs to happen? Valve and Framework teaming up for a modular steam deck.

@diamondbrain5576 Год назад

imagine playing hardcore then the module drop

@hf7118 Год назад

maybe in the future but a modular steam deck ecosystem is a little niche right now i think.

@pirojfmifhghek566 Год назад

Last time I tried to mod my deck I ended up with a piercing that set off all the metal detectors.

@moltenhydrogen2218 Год назад

i mean, it kind of is already. It's not framework levels of modularity, more like thinkpad t480 levels, but besides edge cases everything is easily swappable

@hf7118 Год назад

It would be nice to see a Steam deck with a motherboard with sockets for all the components instead of soldered-on components

@jomarmansilungan2520 Год назад

Thank you, Steam Deck early adopters! Because of your support of the steam deck, we're getting new competitive products like this.

@AcCeSsDeNiEd65 Год назад

Your welcome.

@arbyyyyh Год назад

I love how Linus always said "I'm not supposed to do this but I'm gonna do it anyways" and now the vendors send someone out with the device to make sure he doesn't lol

@Ctuchik Год назад

All he does with that attitude is cost extra money.

@kyonblack7901 Год назад

@@CtuchikIt's his own money, so he gets to do whatever he wants with it. Plus him doing things he shouldn't makes for good content.

@typhvam5107 Год назад

@@Ctuchik oh no the shekels!

@milamberhague8095 Год назад

exactly lol ......

@D_Panda Год назад

@@Ctuchik Nah he makes more. And the vendors know he will do it, they give it to him regardless bc its great publicity.

@fnoffer Год назад

I Love how now every company knows that they have to send a supervisor alongside their product or else Linus will open it up no matter what they say 😂 Framework did it aswell

@VividFlash Год назад

Ltt is the size of a trade show. Nobody would just send their product to a tradeshow

@CrystalStearOfTheCas Год назад

@@maskettaman1488 I do get it for early prototypes reviews

@Trithis2077 Год назад

@@maskettaman1488 Thing about that is that this isn't an advertisement for Asus. If it was, they would legally have had to explicitly disclose that. All that was said is that an Asus rep was there and it's a prototype unit.

@KILLERMATYCZ Год назад

@@maskettaman1488 Well even if there was no one there, they need to approve the vid anyway before publishing. I feel like it was just for the security of the device.

@taiterrencewilliam3565 Год назад

Linus need supervision for sure.

@SamuraiMujuru Год назад

This is the first deck competitor I'm honestly interested in, especially since Asus is big enough they can very likely actually do a competitive price

@Tofilux Год назад

i have yet to see a cheap product with a ROG logo but im hoping it will be competetive

@zt9233 Год назад

@@Tofiluxg14 is a 1099 on sale all the time.

@Micromation Год назад

The problem is always gonna be the software which is gonna be crucial... so far Asus has absolutely dogshit track record of providing functional software - they produce 100% bloatware junk... and proper overlay with moderately decent functionality will be mandatory for somewhat passable handheld experience on Windows...

@ThatSniperBirdy Год назад

Wow u called it $699

@Tree-vis 8 месяцев назад

@@Tofiluxyou're looking at the wrong products lmao

@eTiMaGo Год назад

What interests me more is the XG mobile connector, I'm super interested in the X13/Z13 laptops, nice to see they are building on this ecosystem!

@GC-ps9mn Год назад

I'm probably not going to spend more than a steam deck costs on a mobile gaming platform but I'm glad to see more options becoming available.

@generaxz5929 Год назад

Yeah, I mean, 50% faster at a similar power consumption (which is a claim that has to be varified of course) does sound like *a lot*, until you realize it's going from 20 to 30 or 40 to 60 fps. Now that is *good*, but probably not "spending twice the money" good for most people. That thing will have to deliver on other fronts as well.

@mobilechaosyt Год назад

Yup but I feel a Steam Deck 2 coming with upgrade options for the original. Price doesn’t change because Valve still makes all there money on the games you buy.

@happily7514 Год назад

@@mobilechaosyt Valve works on Valve time, Steam Deck 2 comes in 2025 at the earliest

@mobilechaosyt Год назад

@@happily7514 so I was right

@sktzoner Год назад

@@happily7514 and then 3 never comes

@wizzyxy Год назад

This Obviusly is gonna cost at least like x3 times the Steam Deck soo I don't know...

@ThePopeSong Год назад

Linus is right about there being a market for those who are willing to pay more than steam deck money for a handheld if it can justify the price. If it's a vast improvement and a generally well-performing product, the price won't matter as much (to those people).

@V3ntilator Год назад

According to Asus it won't be expensive. It's supposed to be in same market as Steam Deck.

@Mosestylez Год назад

@@V3ntilator Where can we read about that? I mean the only reason SteamDeck prices is so low compared to other handheld is because they are selling games through their website to make it lower price. Asus don't have that kind of stuff

@yourmajesty9025 Год назад

512GB - $649 1TB - $899

@dugg-e8456 Год назад

@@sophieedel6324 Steam literally released windows drivers for the steam deck. They don't lock you into anything. Many people dual boot windows on their steam deck

@nghiatran2278 Год назад

Wish they added trackpads and gyro for mouse-like aiming like the Steam Deck has. Also, 4 buttons on the back of the Steam Deck allows me to never have to move my thumb off of the right trackpad/joystick. This only has 2 buttons on the back...but I do like that APU and cooling setup on the ROG.

@VaporwaveTravler Год назад

This is exactly why I’m sticking with the steam deck.

@Massivemachine440 Год назад

Guyro is in the works they are having software issue rn

@YouthoughtIwaslying Год назад

They definitely sent this device to the right person. His user feedback is invaluable.

@tobias7798 Год назад

Love how Dave2D always opens up the devices when Linus isn’t allowed to 😂

@freezyapp215 Год назад

True LOL

@pinkocean310 Год назад

Maybe their strategy is to have Linus advertise it to the general audience making the interested people find the opened-up ver

@histeward Год назад

I like how Dave is just childlike excited to review products

@CragScrambler Год назад

Dave dosent drop everything though 🤣

@cdromuser1 Год назад

Linus have sponsor segment instead 😅

@Chenxkun Год назад

Damn, Linus and Dave2D are the only two outside of Asus who gets to play with it, hella jealous! The product looks really promising.

@hazelnuts23 Год назад

They even ignored name like MKBHD, and iJustine

@CrisCheese_ Год назад

@@hazelnuts23 as they should

@vhalrougelarfouxe Год назад

They definitely love Dave2D as they let him open it LOL

@AlbrechtProud1 Год назад

@@vhalrougelarfouxe everyone does, how can you not lol

@MapleMan1984 Год назад

@@hazelnuts23 Like most people do...

@NumbuhONE Год назад

This is honestly so convenient. For someone like me who doesn't have time to game it let's me go right back in no matter where I am. Plus I have such a huge backlog of games to play that even at this performance level it'll keep me occupied for years. Go ASUS and Steamdeck!!

@backfischritter Год назад

I love how they added the rgb lights for extra performance!

@robertdascoli949 Год назад

1:20 Wow, ASUS figured out they don't want devices to be too big, nor too small! 10 years of R&D well worth it.

@trejkaz Год назад

It took them 10 years to read Goldilocks.

@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Год назад

@Sam Wallace And the watch had cooling issues, but the 5k 240hz 1.25" screen was a hit

@R3AL-AIM Год назад

I kind of felt like Asus would eventually come out with something. Here's to hoping for a good competition between Asus and Valve! Will force brands alike GPD to become more competitive with their options.

@janvrabec3401 Год назад

Lets hope for ANY competetion. This ASUS device is lame beyond grave... Even SONY admited that you need MORE than just few buttons for gaming.. And yet another handheld console with the same controller setup as had PSP ONE 15 YEARS AGO. Goddamn...

@NonsensicalSpudz Год назад

@@janvrabec3401 what are you going on aboutt

@sinom Год назад

This will cost more than the GPD ones

@Ms666slayer Год назад

@@janvrabec3401 Yeah because standarization is bad, also that layout wasn't created by Sony and the PS1 it was created by Nintendo with the Super Nintendo.

@GlorifiedGremlin Год назад

Yeah I'm not holding out much hope for the actual price of this thing, but regardless I'm excited for it because it's only going to enrich the handheld space. Who knows, maybe Asus comes out just as aggressive as valve with their pricing, with the same intention as getting it in as many hands as possible 🤷‍♂️

@blacktiger0095 Год назад

If it's not priced to the moon, I'll pick this up. I've been on the market for a handheld and been waiting to see what comes around, seems to be a few coming out but this one intrigues me.

@kcscustom9759 Год назад

Same! This is what I was hoping the steam deck would be. I’m actually really excited for this to hit the market should all go well.

@PigeonGaming Год назад

that is amazing, cant wait for the official announcement

@BoostedBill96 Год назад

Letting reviewers preview tech and put input into a prototype is a favorite thing ❤

@ffsireallydontcare Год назад

First two bits of input: 1. make your batteries user replaceable 2. sell spare parts like fans, joysticks and batteries. Who do ASUS think they are, Apple?

@unholydonuts Год назад

Free publicity and better feedbacks without paying for questionable consultancy firm opinions.

@ffsireallydontcare Год назад

@@BFF.Studios Write an email to ASUS? They have deaf ears. You (and others) noticed my comment? job done.

@ffsireallydontcare Год назад

@@unholydonuts Oh come now, Gartner is the pinnacle of trustworthyness in the IT space and definitely do not get paid for biased reports

@d.j.manjares9830 Год назад

@@ffsireallydontcare shut up

@yo.adrian Год назад

I love how the Steam Deck is bringing out all of these portable gaming PCs. Congratulations Valve for making a really successful product.

@isaiahneal2549 Год назад

Anybody else notice the bad audio split at 7:50 ? Feels like something was cut out last second

@spisie130 Год назад

I'm really, really glad there is starting to be more of a market for handhelds. I work sitting on a computer all day and when I get home I just want to chill on the couch in a more straight position

@Scientist19exe Год назад

As a PC player, my favourite thing on my Steam Deck is the Right Trackpad (using it as a mouse in game). Also the 4 grip buttons is a huge bonus.

@Anaeijon Год назад

And the left trackpad for radial menus to access hotkeys is pretty important for PC games. And the capacitive pad on the joystics, for example to activate motion control and automatically switch to aiming mode once you touch the right joystick. Things like that are super innovative, really intuitive and should be copied by everyone. But seems like those are the things no one copies.

@odinsplaygrounds Год назад

I've seen you guys and other outlets focus a lot on "Steam Deck competitors" lately, and really.. they are not competitors if they aren't within ball-park of the Steam Deck pricing. That is exactly what made the deck so popular. It delivers a lot for the price. These hand held PCs existed before the deck, but were always overpriced. They didn't make much of a dent in the market. We simply need more competition within the deck pricing or nearby it.

@legotrucks1 Год назад

And OS experience, windows is not made for handheld devices imo

@FdPros Год назад

steam deck made everyone spoiled because it really is good value. imo there will not be any competitors at the steam decks price range any time soon, maybe apart from the next nintendo. these are basically mini laptops if you think about it and look at the price of a comparable laptop, its likely at or more expensive than most of these handhelds.

@sovo1212 Год назад

Keep in mind the Steam Deck wasn't released in most countries, so these companies don't need to worry about competing with a nonexistent product. So, I'd say at a sub-800 USD price it'll still be the best option for most people.

@FdPros Год назад

@So Vo yep i know that too well, had to import mine. people keep forgetting this fact. im still not sure why valve just doesnt ship globally. its been instock in the US for ages now, surely they can just ship globally and still have enough. (or just have another waitlist)

@RockBandRS Год назад

The only reason the Steam Deck can be priced so competatively is because it's subsidized by games sold on Steam.

@seandavid2300 Год назад

I'm blown away already...Im gonna get it for sure❤

@GuitarHarmonyHub 11 месяцев назад

Buying one today! So exited :)

@SoleEpiphany Год назад

The fact you guys and Dave are the ones they chose to send this to says a lot. Looks like a solid device.

@myaccount__7269 Год назад

Prob because they are both in Vancouver Canada so asus can visit both in 1 go

@Shabrody Год назад

@@myaccount__7269 Pretty sure Dave is based out of Toronto, which is almost on the opposite side of the country.

@24avenged24 Год назад

Because they both never say any overly critical?

@mattwood3773 Год назад

Says its garbage. This guys doing a paid promo. Tech is always outdated. Dont buy hype.

@RobertLiamWhyte Год назад

There are a few other RU-vidrs that have been asked by Asus an will have it soon. Guess they are present for the footage at the moment. It's really not that big a secret 😅

@ShaniAce Год назад

The quiet fans are quite impressive and make this device stand out. I would really like to see a full comparison with the GPD Win4. I'm gonna get that one soon, simply because of the keyboard, and use it as my main PC (replacing my laptop). I think this is an aspect most people are not aware of in this product category; being able to carry your computer with you anywhere (without needing a backpack) and still have that high performance at home (Ryzen 6800U + eGPU via USB4) is an unbeatable perk. It's what the future should look like and what I've dreamed of since the first UMPCs (like Vaio UX) came out in 2006.

@little_fluffy_clouds Год назад

I got rid of my GPD Win Max because the fans are super loud. My Steam Deck is also noisy, has poor battery life and the screen isn’t great, only passable. Still waiting for an OLED PC handheld with decent battery life.

@mfpv_detroit8182 Год назад

I'll wait for the next deck valve has been amazing to me

@Papa_Corgo Год назад

Super exited for the Ally, with this being a early prototype and them having Linus review it I hope the work on some of the complaints he has, and if they do oh boy is this going to absolutely outshine the Steam Deck. It is likely going to cost more than a Steam Deck but the it is going to be worth it. I am a very avid Destiny 2 player and would love to know how well it would preform on the Ally, I’d love to be able to play Destiny on the go.

@kscho4285 Год назад

It will probably be available in Australia officially before the steam deck at this rate

@halohunter111 Год назад

Gabe despises Australia ever since he was wacked by the ACCC on refunds. I wouldn't be surprised if a physical hardware product from Valve never releases in Australia.

@reececlark3656 Год назад

Kogan sells them for kinda okay prices in Australia... still hope valve releases it at some point

@kscho4285 Год назад

And as of now is available for preorder in Australia! Unlike the steam deck.. still.

@sammysalgado1475 Год назад

This is exactly what we needed is the steam deck to Kickstart this new era of powerful portable gaming,not only are there going to be so many new innovations in memory and power save options but support for each device like how valve is supporting the deck

@s4shrish Год назад

I mean, let's be real, it's the Switch's 120 Million sales amount that put a loud signal that people wanted and will pay for a portable home console experience (especially over the WiiU which had similar level of games including Nintendo "Magic", just distributed worse). Valve just did it in a way that it ia truly console-like and with the associated QOL stuff. Heck, some of the Valve stuff is getting better than console (like Steam Remote Play), but that just makes a non-valve PC experience much worse by comparison. This ASUS ROG device seems to have some custom stuff, but only time will tell if can suspend games and put the system to sleep without hicccups. Downloading whilst asleep is still a big question and so is wakeup by wireless controller.

@mytubechanneI Год назад

It's gotta be nice to say what you want without getting blocked and deleted and demonetized. But you've put in the work for sure so good on ya

@BryanStetson Год назад

That fingerprint sensor on the power button for profile loads is a great idea and might not add that much manufacturing costs! Reminds me of the old pixel fingerprint unlock which i still hold will always be better than face mapping.

@ancientflames Год назад

? Tons of devices do this. Why is it so interesting to you.

@inferno7528 Год назад

@@ancientflames can he not be excited about it? 😂

@NomhleMoneti Год назад

@@inferno7528 fr it feels like people are just quick to shut down the idea of being excited for a handheld other than the steam deck.

@terribletimes902 Год назад

Linus: “We’re not allowed to open it today” Dave2D: “Yeah fuck all that, take a look at this neat cooling system”

@Jat-Jat Год назад

At first I was like “man I shouldn’t have gotten a steam deck” then I realize there is no way this will be $500 CAD

@deckverse Год назад

Also comes with Windows. You wouldn't want to trade SteamOS with Windows.

@peatsch2779 Год назад

@@azenyr as you said. IF say unlocked the os. Also the missing of steam deck trackpads on this device is something that bothers me

@neolynxer Год назад

@@deckverse Steam would love ASUS to use SteamOS. It's a customer.

@MR-re9pq Год назад

It is 650USD (512gb model) (I don't know what about taxes)

@Jat-Jat Год назад

@@MR-re9pq oh yeah I meant the base 64 GB model (which is the one I have). I chose it because that has the most value for money for me, especially when buying expandable microSD storage on top of itt. EDIT: I just realized you’re talking about the leaked price for the ROG ALLY 😅😅😅

@bigpat_4295 Год назад

My favourite handheld so far regarding the overall the sign still has to be the GPD4 you featured a while ago

@CHEFPKR Год назад

Will Valve refresh hardware? As an Index user, I would love an upgraded version. Same with deck.

@casoblantly Год назад

Hell yes, finally real competition! Thanks to valve for sparking this new wave

@crwmateanime8582 Год назад

i'm happy valve made the steam deck now we can have cool handhelds just like it

@LetrixAR Год назад

@@crwmateanime8582 so handhelds weren't cool before?

@CJMAXiK Год назад

@@LetrixAR cost is everything

@KEEYBLADE Год назад

@@crwmateanime8582 I just wish Sony would do another handheld. The PSP was amazing in its time. The PS Vita was also great, but suffered from lack of original games and seemed underpowered. But I believe Sony focuses more on VR now, and leaves mobile gaming for smartphones.

@joemarais7683 Год назад

It’ll probably be $1200+, so I wouldn’t scream about competition until we get the price.

@asbjo Год назад

Would be awesome to see official Steam OS support for some of these non-valve devices.

@Jaroartx Год назад

For now ChimeraOS is and option they just release support for ayaneo devices still it needs and external app for tdp

@deusvermiculus1072 Год назад

since people are already creating a "desktop" version of Steam OS, there is nothing stopping you from installing it and testing it for performance.

@mskiptr Год назад

Asus, just hire one or two devs experienced in kernel | distribution development and make it run well on your own. Or ask Valve for help lol

@oo--7714 Год назад

Personally I wouldn’t run it, I’d rather be an to run cod modern warfare on it.

@ruzaroos Год назад

What do you want to achieve by that? The instant standby or something else? Having native Windows APIs seems like the better deal to me but I've only booted my SteamDeck into SteamOS once, so I am curious.

@Later_Nerd Год назад

Asus has been killing it. I'm a huge Steam Deck fan. I pre-ordered within 30 minutes of release and spend 80% of my gaming time on the Deck (despite owning a PS5 and desktop PC with Ultrawide monitor.) I adore the Deck so much. But if this thing is seriously that much more powerful, the price is $800 or under and they can get the software experience at least in the same ballpark as Valve (Valve absolutely knocked it out of the park with the console like experience) I will be happy to upgrade. With just how much I love my Steam Deck I would be willing to spend up for a beefier version. If Valve released a Steam Deck Pro for like $800 with solid upgrades I would buy it tomorrow. The handheld gaming experience is probably my favorite tech product of the past 10 years. The Oculus Quest 2 was probably the most exciting during lockdown. I've been a VR fan for awhile now, buying the first gen Oculus Rift relatively early on. But the standalone capabilities of the Quest was amazing. Being able to go down to my apartment parking garage and play Walking Dead: Saints and Sinners without having to worry about any sort of space constraint was incredible. I never felt as immersed in VR as I did that day. Higher end PC/PSVR be damned. The tethered nature makes it so much less novel and a clear step back imo. But I'm getting off topic. The Quest 2 was amazing but after a couple of months I would only touch it maybe once a week. With the Deck, I was nearly as excited using it for the first time. But the difference is, that excitement never faded. I had to go without a car for a month and a half when mine was stolen and totaled. Then I was waiting on insurance to get me back on the road, the Deck was a godsend on my public transportation morning commutes. I can take it with me on camping trips. Spend 95% of the day unplugged and exploring nature, then spend an hour playing a game near the campfire before bed with a beer. Or on a plane with my Sony XM4's. It's just an amazing piece of tech at an amazing price.

@kcscustom9759 Год назад

YES! This is what I was hoping the steam deck would be. If all goes well I can’t wait to be able to buy one of these.

@felipew101 Год назад

The competition in this space is something I haven't seen in a bit. Last I remember seeing things be this intense was when the Google pixel first showed up and phone camera development got a kick in the rear.

@TippyHippy Год назад

l put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture.

@dishwasher69 Год назад

@@TippyHippy why?

@mikumin727 Год назад

@@dishwasher69 lore building

@sorappoli5137 Год назад

If this doesn't cost "DOUBLE" the price of the Steam Deck this could be pretty compelling. I don't expect it to be affordable like the Steam Deck but I kinda hope it's not going to be outrageous like Ayaneo's stuff.

@mikepatrona472 Год назад

considering the fastest ryzen apu ever made it probably is

@emperorfaiz Год назад

@audio technika That’s pretty dumb perception.

@Muhluri Год назад

@audio technika outdated???

@wolfspiderzx Год назад

@audio technika Everything new in the pc market is immediately outdated the minute it's released. What matters is how well it can stay relevant. The Steam Deck is still relevant and shows no signs of slowing down.

@rmo9808 Год назад

One of the problems I have with this is that ASUS is kinda crap at customer support.

@RedBeardMortis Год назад

I can almost guarantee that this thing will have a $1,000 or more MSRP on launch. imo, if they wanna have their best shot at fighting against the Steam Deck that price tag needs to be a $100 or $200 more than the base model Steam Deck price. Amazing idea! But idk if it'll sell that well.

@toolsonabudget7763 Год назад

lol i think linus let out the price accidently he said about 2500 -1999 that means 500 lol

@charlesgentry3758 Год назад

They already have a price of 650 for 512gb and 899 for 1tb

@012345678944107 Год назад

Its 650usd

@daauron Год назад

@@charlesgentry3758 Those are rumors not confirmed prices

@jaxv3r602 Год назад

@@daauron ain't no way that thing cost 650$USD for 512gb they will be losing so much money, and they don't have the benefit of console makers (including Valve) to make up the loss money on their stores.

@MutantNetwork Год назад

It does look mighty smooth fr

@a_b_9790 Год назад

It’s amazing that this is exactly what Valve were after - more companies building on their ideas. Always loved ASUS, it’s the one brand I’ve stood by over the years, but I highly doubt the price will be competitive unfortunately. Great vid guys.

@onemorescout Год назад

Other companies would see a threat, Valve sees inspiration. Whether it succeeds or flops, the Ally will be a big talking point when they eventually make a Deck successor.

@a_b_9790 Год назад

@@onemorescout so refreshing right? how can you not love em

@GhOsThPk Год назад

Valve is smart, at the end of the day even if some competition happens to be better and faster than the Deck, Gabe knows where you're going to buy your games and it is at Steam, even the Deck is sold at almost cost, they gain by reaching more users and selling more games.

@Owenzzz777 Год назад

I’m so happy this was not an April fool’s joke. I signed up for the newsletter the moment I saw it even though I thought it might be a prank. Knowing ROG I don’t have too much hope for its price to compete with Steam Deck head on, but damn am I looking forward to it

@TheJohnM Год назад

terrible marketing! Half the people still think its a prank.

@Owenzzz777 Год назад

@@TheJohnM yea, it’s an odd choice to announce it on April 1st.

@shubhamsaraf2772 Год назад

actually the price is going to be around $499.

@nff_1950 Год назад

@@shubhamsaraf2772 for real? is it cofirmed?

@housemoose3630 Год назад

@@nff_1950 i doubt it linus didnt metion the price (that i heard)

@losteden6390 Год назад

I'm picking one up. Looks awesome .

@NovocaineTV Год назад

Yea you and ETA Prime get to review it. He used to do guides for retro gaming rigs but has really evolved and I am so glad. I love the format of his reviews. He did show us the Specs on this, why are you not aloud to?

@coreyspitzer2811 Год назад

After having the TouchPads on the Steam Deck it would be very hard for me to choose any other handheld without them. RTS games like Age Of Empires you just need to have a TouchPad. I love seeing this competition though!

@syasya117 Год назад

Even the expensive Aya neo don't have trackpad

@rinchanmeow Год назад

Especially considering that all these use Windows, even if you get steam and just stick to big picture, you'll still have to leave it and clumsy around the os fairly occasionally. And performance is only grabbing a niche of a niche, the people who wanna play a very specific set of games portably, fast, while looking good. With no trackpads and supposedly meh dpad and face buttons, there's a long list of games I wouldn't wanna play on here, or wouldn't even be able to play at all, and i don't think that's a compromise most are willing to make just to play those few games at a higher fidelity than the deck. It's not like the deck outright can't run those games

@tarajoe07 Год назад

They really are amazing to bridge the gap between PC and handheld and the customized usage of them beyond that

@tarajoe07 Год назад

@@rinchanmeow and with probably 40 minutes of battery life if you're lucky. Lol

@astecheee1519 Год назад

That's true in a technical sense, but a mouse and keyboard dramatically increases your performance in any RTS. Good luck managing 6 control groups with a trackpad.

@MichaelMineCraftings Год назад

the combined support and passion of Valve and it's fans would still be hard to beat

@crwmateanime8582 Год назад

honestly, my issue is the windows os, it isn't gamer friendly

@deusvermiculus1072 Год назад

@@crwmateanime8582 thats the biggest problem i have with this device as well ^^ If one would dominate the other it could mean a great loss for Linux gaming... on the other hand it might also push valve to innovate even more. Its exciting but also a little bit worrying.

@oo--7714 Год назад

Persobally I dont care, not being able to run games like cod warfzone without completely wiping the device isnt great.

@diogofelix8626 Год назад

@@crwmateanime8582 give it time, Valve is paying 100's of devs to work on the Linux gaming ecosystem in the last years (vulkan, dxvk, wine, proton, drivers, etc). Now that they have the motivation (hopefully a huge Linux user base due to Deck) it will only get better and better as the time goes on.

@crwmateanime8582 Год назад

@@deusvermiculus1072 honestly it is terrifying and amazing at the same time and I’m sure valve will continue to innovate

@williss1192 Год назад

I really like your transparency with emulation Lol

@MrZeval Год назад

Steam Decks trackpads makes some keyboard-only games playable on the deck. For example, radial menus for MMORPG's and unit selection on RTS games. If the Ally adds this, then I would buy this day one. Even if you dont use the trackpads as joysticks, the fact that you can make your own custom menu using the trackpads, and then allowing specific keyboard presses opens up many possibilities.

@bengii238 Год назад

Very few people play RTS. I would rather have a 1080p120hz screen with full color gamut at 500 nits that's 10x better than the deck screen while missing out on 10% of games. Why are deckies so reliant on "the trackpads" They aren't that important. Steam has templates for controllers in games like factorio.

@canadajones9635 Год назад

@@bengii238 They probably like the trackpads because the trackpads are good at mouse-like inputs. I would know; I use a Steam Controller.

@deleteddeleted821 Год назад

The one thing that makes the steam deck better than any competition is the touchpads, before using them I didn't think much of them, after using them I refuse to give them up

@2greenify Год назад

I was thinking support years. Asus will stop supporting this device mostly after a year and officially probably after 2 or three years.

@unoriginalk2665 Год назад

@@2greenify i doubt

@fordesponja Год назад

They will. They always do.

@gwen9939 Год назад

It's an absolute must for games that uses a cursor, so any strategy/RTS/management game, and even for shooters combining it with a high-sens gyro is superior to a dual-stick setup and no longer requires aim assist to even function properly. A handheld console that basically plays the same as an xbox console isn't really as exciting as the handheld PC that steamdeck manages to be.

@henryviiifake8244 Год назад

@@2greenify How do you know that? Wouldn't that depend entirely on being able to wash the existing Aya Neos and OneX Players of the world (because nobody's competing with the Steamdeck on price)?

@stickwars2000 Год назад

I wish it had a touch pad at least on the right side for mouse control. The trackpad like nature makes mouse movement feel a lot more natural and precise compared to the joystick when you have to rely on mouse movement in games like Rimworld.

@KYVTrocks Год назад

I think you are right , they missed the point how Importent the Touch zones on the Steam deck are

@DeinonychusCowboy Год назад

The prototype backpack was interesting to see, the main thing I don't like about the current backpack is the orange interior 😅. I'm not sure about the leather-looking exterior though, I've had such bad experiences with fake leather that I've resolved never to buy it again, and I'm not sure leather is what I want on a backpack anyway. I hope there's an option upcoming for the normal polyester outer shell with that blue-green interior, I'll finally be able to buy one.

@orbatos Год назад

Fabric is better than weird foam hands down. Not even getting into how badly it performs in extreme environments.

@jonathanoxlade4252 Год назад

Now if they make a small portable nuclear power pack then you can game on a rtx 4090 while on the bus lol haha and imagine if the portable device had a 4k screen aswel I mean most phones samsung us 1440p so why they don't have different resolution mode I suppose you can downsample 4k on fake resolution but yea that's what nvida gpus can do make a custom resolution on it

@bigflx2754 Год назад

The lack of trackpads makes this a deal breaker for me, they’re so good on the steam deck

@rtxf Год назад

Right? I wish they would become an industry standard

@koosbusters41 Год назад

It also makes PS5 streaming impossible, right? Because you’d need a trackpad to control the Touchpad or whatever it’s called on the Dualsense

@lambbonesdev Год назад

@@koosbusters41 ps5 streaming apps use the touchscreen for that

@koosbusters41 Год назад

@@lambbonesdev I see, thank you

@ThiefJack Год назад

Deal breaker? Once you try the ayaneo 2 you forget about it completely.

@graefx Год назад

I'm excited to see this space develop. For a while it seemed like it was just retro hand held enthusiasts emulators but now it's rrally becoming a form I like

@dom_the3166 Год назад

I think the most impressive thing about the steamdeck is the software. The fact that valve have used Linux to such great effect is extremely impressive, and I can't see smaller runs of more expensive devices getting the same quality of software and game compatibility. That means it's gonna have to run windows. Which is gonna suck.

@Justplanecrazy25 Год назад

That's the big if I have been thinking about too. Putting aside steam input or the fact I daily Linux which I realize is a bias, steam deck has been the success it is in part due to the software. Valve didn't just release the hardware and that's it. They've continued to release update after update adding functionality and improving features/performance. I haven't used an Asus laptop before, but I have used their mobos, monitors, GPUs, etc. We are lucky to see firmware updates from a board manufacturer. Maybe a companion app or overclocking utility. I'd be really curious to know if Asus is up to the task when it comes to software development for this handheld. This is where I admittedly lack knowledge. Maybe Asus has more software dev in their mobile market? Regardless, software and continued support is the biggest question on my mind with a product like this.

@YC-nc2td Год назад

Totally agree

@Azarilh Год назад

I overall agree but nothing stops Asus ROG from using Linux on this either, and considering that this is a prototype, they might have installed windows just because the software is not ready ( prolly some drivers ). I don't have my hopes up tho. I'm not sure what you mean by _game compatibility_ tho, as Linux has less compatibility with games then Windows does, Steam Deck or not.

@officialdabaws5228 Год назад

@@Azarilh you're right about the compatibility, currently because steamdeck is linux, you need to dual boot windows to play most online mp games since their anticheats dont support linux.

@Micromation Год назад

@@officialdabaws5228 Let's be honest though, playing competitive mp on the handheld is a rather questionable experience regardless - you're not matched against other gamepad/handheld users, you're matched against MKB - people matched with you, will leave the match because you will be dragging them down, people playing against you will absolutely demolish you until you rank so low in MMR that you will play against potatoes and afkers...

@Kepppo Год назад

The best thing is im so used to 800p on the deck, that upgrading to the Ally will be awesome, playing AAA Games at constant 40 or 60fps

@SwolePapi15 Год назад

Nice to see the handheld market really blowing up. Definitely won't be in the market for this as my steamdeck meets my needs but competition is great

@freeMHan11 Год назад

Same. Will upgrade to steamdeck 2 though whenever that is.

@spellsnare Год назад

@@freeMHan11 same here but really depends what the steam deck 2 what they will do If this give me a better battery and better screen I will maybe buy it also they need to upgrade the ventilation system the steam deck becomes really hot with long sessions of demanding games like RE 4 remake

@RYXPfan Год назад

I bought an Asus rog flow x13 (after Linus’s review) since I wanted the 2 in 1 capability with a dedicated GPU, and now that I’m finishing college and will have some income, I’ve been thinking about getting that external GPU. Super cool it has the same dock as this ROG ally!

@LprogressivesANDliberals Год назад

Cheers brother, congrats. It’s a long road and I hope you save much money until the end of time 🍻 rog flow a choice I like as well

@ObamaMannReal Год назад

@@LprogressivesANDliberals ching

@jponz85 Год назад

I want that rog flow z13 eventually

@m.devellis Год назад

x13 master race. Fucking love this 13 inch Cyberpunk player

@zombl337og Год назад

definitely gotta get me a gaming handheld soon. would make lan parties so much more managable

@cjtaitano5249 Год назад

I’m so glad I bought my Steamdeck for cheap! This thing looks WILD!

@iamyungbucket Год назад

Can always count on linus to get his hands on literally the latest tech the same day it's announced

@kevinchristopher1443 Год назад

Well yeah, they send them the stuff ahead of time so they can have a video preview ready lol

@mura_saki Год назад

And that's what you call embargo lol these videos are scheduled by the companies so they release after a certain date

@Kamui916 Год назад

Uhm.......Dave2D first js 🫥 ......... 😉👍

@cjbtlr Год назад

day 1 puff pieces are essential, and linus is happy to oblige

@MrREAPERsz Год назад

All of this is planned. They didn't send it to enough people though.

@WillThrillin Год назад

The customizability of the deck is unmatched and I feel is what will keep it relevant

@brianmalkiewicz7120 Год назад

Being Windows is what will entice players. You have to jump through hoops to get certain games and launchers to work on Steam Deck. It's one of the reasons I haven't bought it. All the games I play don't work natively on it.

@Nanotechnician Год назад

@@brianmalkiewicz7120 unless you play prehistoric Windows games or "known to not working on linux because the company doesnt care" games you can play absolutely everything on the deck...

@victorkreig6089 Год назад

Factually false

@WillThrillin Год назад

Love my deck, I can work on it easy, customize the hardware and software, play most any game I want.. it’s been great for me

@backup_almeknassi9824 Год назад

@@victorkreig6089 No, its factually correct.

@ytm23ak Год назад

I expect this to be around a $750 starter package at the least with a $1200 option. But it’s a compelling product, can’t wait to see where this market is at in 10 years

@DiogoLC Год назад

I guess it will be $2.5k like he said

@ADHDeez Год назад

@@DiogoLCit's $700 😮

@roboteen Год назад

@@ADHDeez and that's for the high end model too

@tekgawd Год назад

Apparently leaks put the pricing at 650 for the 512gb model and 900 for the 1tb option. Hopefully the rest of the specs stay identical between the two but I could see them having other differences, like 60hz 720 or 800 panel on the low one and 120hz 1080 panel for the high tier.

@PiroKUSS Год назад

That's ridiculous. This thing will probably cost over $1k.

@XGhozt. Год назад

I keep seeing these things and my first thought always comes back to the amount of input on the stem deck. I really love the touch pads, motion sensors and all the buttons. I can play just about any game even if the game doesn't have controller support. Would be hard for me to give that up, but maybe not everyone.

@DoubleJumpPunch Год назад

Yup, I make extensive use of the trackpads and four paddle buttons. As a test I recently tried going back to standard stick-based controls and it felt so clunky. Plus, no deadzone or drift issues with the trackpads! (I use the gyro a lot as well, but that's a common feature now.)

@sophieedel6324 Год назад

The fact so many games don't work on Steam Deck is why I returned it. With this device I will be able to have full compatibility with Windows and also use GoG, emulators, Epic Game Store, etc.

@a1batross_ Год назад

@@sophieedel6324 idk almost every game works for me. Maybe depends on what you play, I don't play competitive multiplayer games at all and anticheats could be the problem on Steam Deck. Everything else? Not a single issue.

@sophieedel6324 Год назад

@@RobbieEl Installing Windows on Steam Deck is a mess. Most games on Steam Deck don't really work all that well because Steam relies heavily on DRM. A console like this Asus with Windows would allow me to play GoG games without issues.

@naruvodo Год назад

@@sophieedel6324 "most games" source: "trust me bro"

@BilingualHobo Год назад

My holdout for non steam handhelds is the dual touch pads. They really make the difference for strategy games that were never designed for controllers. Though I may come around to having different games for mobile vs docked play if more like this one come out.

@MGMan37 Год назад

Agreed, I play too many games where touchpad for cursor is a godsend

@AyaWetts Год назад

even games designed for controllers... I can do a lot better with the trackpads. I can't stand using most controllers, and stick to keyboard and mouse/trackball... but with the Steam Deck I can actually use that and love it all due to those trackpads.

@GSBarlev Год назад

I'll gladly sacrifice the second touchpad for the GPD Win 4 keyboard. Especially since leaving it "un-folded" looks like the more comfortable way to play anyway.

@freeman105 Год назад

sir i would like to introduce you to this thing called a mouse and keyboard its the only way to play rts i have tried every interface i could from touch pads(gross)to joysticks (admittedly more gross) to touch screen control(the grossest) these gimmicks will never replace a mouse and keyboard

@BilingualHobo Год назад

@freeman 105 tried mouse and key board, my deck kept falling over ever time my transport hit a bump

@bluephreakr Год назад

Th final roduct needs to have better ventilation on the logo side. They can do this by using slimmer vent holes which create the _look_ of the ROG logo without compromising on even delivery of airflow.

@snakeman567 Год назад

I'm here, excited for competitive hand-held PCs! As long as it gets folks gaming, that's the important part.

@CAPgroupONE Год назад

The steam deck is a lot more than just specs. Its power is in its software, and the level of support it gets, as well as the community that is behind it. There are now a significant number of steam deck alternatives with more powerful hardware, but none have dethroned the steam deck's popularity. As soon as Valve releases an updated steam deck, the software maintainability takes a hit, the user base gets fragmented.

@elibeeblebrox1084 Год назад

Why do you think the software maintainability will take a hit? It's Linux and the architecture isn't exactly proprietary like big three console architecture is. I don't see it losing support. Even when it does, community support will step in and those will be some passionate Linux nerds. Anything is possible for those guys, this will be a cakewalk for them.

@kylerpointerify Год назад

The software is the bottleneck with the Steam Deck. I can't even play half of my Steam library on the thing.

@DisgorgeX Год назад

@@kylerpointerify The only games in my library that don't work on Deck actually do work on Deck, the devs are just shitty about updating their anti-cheat lol.

@oo--7714 Год назад

@@kylerpointerify Same. I'll buy the asus handeld when it comes out in the uk. I'm fine paying a premium for more game compatibility and more perfomance like cod warzone. Performance in newer aaa games is unforgiving to say the least I can't get a solid 30fps on need for speed unbound or returnal even when puttibg it to fsr ultra performance. I'll give my steam deck to my brother or I'll sell it. Windows on the steam deck is buggy, the fans kick on randomly and it often freezes often on me, I ended up moving back to steam os.

@djbusx Год назад

Nintendo enters the chat

@sebastian_h Год назад

I'm 99 % sure it is the 7840HS that is running in there. That would be a very nice chip, especially with the integrated 780M.

@Lionheart1188 Год назад

@@BobDevV ssshhh

@1armbiker Год назад

@@BobDevV wat All the chips are TDP configurable. It’s more likely that it’s a U series 7040 than an HS as 15W is probably its target rather than 35; but the U’s I know are configurable by the OEM up to 28W, and the HS is 35 stock, probably up to 65W or so if they really wanted to. But either way it doesn’t matter, all the 7040 chips are the same die, 8c16t Z4 with RDNA3.

@sebastian_h Год назад

@@BobDevV I don't trust them on that one. Why would AMD develop a specific chip for just one device and then especially one that is in a niche product category? The 7840HS seems like exactly the right chip for this purpose. The current AMD Zen 4 lineup is so much more efficient than Intels lineup so they can get very good performance at just 15 W. The Steam Deck is still running on Zen 2 which was great 3 years ago but it is not what you would expect from a new device in 2023 (I am daily driving a 3700X).

@chxd909 Год назад

@@sebastian_h well amd would do that if the pay is good

@sebastian_h Год назад

@@1armbiker if U or HS doesn't matter at this point I guess. 😅 As long as they are shipping it with the 780M (RDNA 3) this will handle everything imaginable just fine. The 780M seems like the first iGPU that you can't tell apart from an entry tier dedicated GPU. If you would tell me it is the new 4050 I probably wouldn't doubt that. - All based on what we know about this chip yet - we could be totally wrong and it would perform worse than the 680M 😅

@user-ye4bl2qu1t Год назад

I was literally just about to walk out the door , This video magically played off my MacBook by itself . stopped me in my tracks and got me looking at my switch like why don't you do more !!! I've been patient with you Nintendo !! lol got my sub .

@thesloth_r4m157 Год назад

Asus seems to do extremely wel in the mobile market. Doing very well in the laptop department, getting high praise from Margues Brownlee for their phone and now apparently smashing the handheld console market (even though that thing will probably set you back $1000)...they really seem to do deliver the right products at the right time.

@Massivemachine440 Год назад

$899 for the high-end model $649 for low-end model

@thesloth_r4m157 Год назад

@@Massivemachine440 of the Ally? If so that'd be a damn good deal

@therealtrue842 Год назад

It's worth noting, since you mentioned it a few times, hardly any emulated games can physically run at 120fps unless there are dedicated mods for them. There are a few instances that contradict this, but for the vast majority of games and emulators, framerates higher than 60 are impossible.

@anythingoriginal Год назад

Linus barely games. He just sells products 24/7.

@master_ace Год назад

Lack of track pads and, to a smaller degree, non-symmetrical joystick are a "no" for me. The track pads have saved so many games for me in terms of alternative aiming controls, and they offer additional input options when combined with steam os virtual menus

@YC-nc2td Год назад

Still weird that nobody as not added track pad from now till the Steam Deck...its a game changer, agreed 👍.

@vic8230 Год назад

Unless I just haven't seen the comments yet I was surprised noone else was mentioning the lack of track pads. They're a game changer. The fact this prototype doesn't have them I doubt the official release will either. Which is unfortunate.

@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV Год назад

i am happy about bigger competition

@ashurali22 Год назад

The design of the board really makes think of framework's latest GPU module. Wonder if framework can made an APU module out of this AMD CPU and be then modded in this case

@andrewkish360 Год назад

This set is absolutely amazing! I know it’s not as busy as all the other ones but the plain background keeps me focused on Linus. Also the desk pad gets 👍👍 from me!

@justsomeguywashwd_jbm821 Год назад

Zen4 + RDNA3 definitely has my curiosity, as does the fact that whilst it doesn't come with HE sticks, they are apparently replaceable, so it may be an option eventually. The 1 thing that might put me off is the screen. Apparently the screen type was 1 of the details Linus wasn't allowed to share, which has me thinking it probably isn't OLED. If I'm gonna be shelling out for a not-cheap console I'd want it to have OLED.

@GoneIQ Год назад

Didnt Dave2D confirm it was on OLED?

@justsomeguywashwd_jbm821 Год назад

@@GoneIQ I have no idea who Dave2D is, so... 🤷‍♂️ if he's someone who's posted a comment in response to this video, I haven't read many of them, so I haven't seen it, & I'm not wading through hundreds of comments to find it.

@bipbop3121 Год назад

@@justsomeguywashwd_jbm821 I think Dave2D is a RU-vidr (it has been a while since I watched, I think he's very apple and white electronics). You'd be looking for another video, not a comment.

@GloomGaiGar Год назад

@@justsomeguywashwd_jbm821 He's the other one of 2 people who got the prototype. Pretty big tech youtuber too.

@MrRinre Год назад

Dave2D is a laptop guy. At least that's how he started. Now he's into more general consumer tech. I like his reviews, very well balanced and doesn't have the amount of bias that Mkbhd or linus has.

@dancingwolfcraft5751 Год назад

Your back!

@chrisbarnes5141 Год назад

I may have to get this. I love my Steam Deck but its one glaring downside is not having native gamepass support on SteamOS. I may pick these one up solely for that purpose.

@prashantnz Год назад

Regardless of the price, I am gonna have this one. Got lot of Asus RoG products and none of them have put me off yet. Hats off. Thanks heaps mate for reviewing this. You are a well knows legend. Love from NZ.

@DarkroeTech Год назад

I am glad to see a wide variety of handhelds for PC gaming. The variety of prices, designs, and performance makes it accessible for many kinds of people. While this one will probably be expensive, it's good to see what a higher level of performance can do in a device of this size.

@Defspawn1 Год назад

I do think it will be great for a small group of people, that can afford pay the cost of a good gaming desktop for a handheld device. But for most, the Steam Deck price is still hard to beat. Especially for the group of new to PC gaming folks. I love ASUS and this device looks great. But for me it sits with all the other windows handhelds that boast better hardware at a much higher price(unless they prove me wrong). My desk top will always be my primary gaming machine. But I love the Steam Deck as my secondary go to.

@sylvie_v2939 Год назад

I know there's probably chip bits behind those controller bits, but I feel like for ergonomics, having it detachable like the switch could be more modular and allow for different configurations or using it in a kickstand configuration on a table or back-of-a-seat. Having them fixed does seem like a disadvantage - especially in transit - on my steam deck Also just guessing: solid stat/piezoelectric cooling?

@williebrort Год назад

I'm really liking the trackpads on the steam deck. I'm missing those on this device and I don't like that.

@JC7119 Год назад

USB 4.0 Gen 2 80gbps is gonna make handhelds just work in the future as "Switch Pro" kinda dock over a completely custom plug like this. I am extremally excited to see what happens in this space.

@YounesLayachi Год назад

You missed the point about overhead and back & forth

@kelvinminnaar9385 Год назад

@@YounesLayachi usb 4 has less over head than thunderbolt

@GlibShpychka Год назад

If it's USB, it won't be a completely custom plug.

@YounesLayachi Год назад

Also, it's USB4 (spec revision 2.0), not "USB 4.0 Gen 2". The 80 Gbit/s mode is named : "USB4 Gen4×2" meaning 40 Gbit/s × 2 lanes

@JC7119 Год назад

@@YounesLayachi so the custom connector is 64gb according to the spec vs USB 4x2 which is 80gb. Even if there is a bit of overhead I highly doubt 16gb worth and even with the bit of added latency I don't think it would be that much especially based on current eGPU performance (more on that later). What would be that much however would be the decrease in price and more importantly be a first to market with real docking setup. Considering TB4/USB4 with current docks bottle necks gpu by around half, 80gb should get it pretty close to desktop speeds, at least that's what the number show from testing over the years. Edit: also it's only back and forth when you push back to the desktops display. Hence why even with TB4 when going to an external monitor the FPS is higher.

@santohiji6117 Год назад

Damn, I love those buttons size. One thing I hate the most from steam deck is ridiculously small buttons

@JamieReynolds89 Год назад

they aren't ridiculously small at all...

@djbusx Год назад

I’ve been holding onto my laptop for years and my last desktop build was 2010. Don’t game much on either but they still work great for normal everyday compooter use.. but I’ve been looking for a new windows portable that can game well or decently. This has got me thinking and maybe I’ll hold on just a bit longer to get this instead of a new laptop. 🤔

@FlergerBergitydersh Год назад

Without the trackpads and 4 back buttons, and the dpad position, it's really hard for me to care compared to the steam deck. Variable refresh rate though? That's a killer feature

@jothain Год назад

Yeah, nice display, but it isn't enough. Still much rather would get Steam deck.

@doc8125 Год назад

Yeah, the inputs are sick (and even quite comfortable to use literally everything even despite my arthritis). Plop a better display on the steam deck and it would be perfect for me (can keep the resolution but I'd want higher quality, mine has a fair bit of back light bleed, oled would be awesome)

@Tekgnome. Год назад

@@jothain as a steak deck owner, I don't use the touch pads often but when I do they are absolutely amazing. I'm completely okay waiting another 2-3 years for valve to launch a zen 4 deck with a slightly better screen for around the same price. Spending 1k+ on a steam deck clone just isn't worth it to me 🤷‍♂️

@jothain Год назад

@@Tekgnome. they would be essential to me cause I would play much of the older titles that don't even have native controller support. Depends obviously much on users needs and preferences, but in pc device they're pretty much mandatory to have.

@ronochow Год назад

The ROG Ally looks pretty sweet. It would be nice to have a TB4 as well though. I could imagine bringing this instead of a laptop in certain traveling instances as it's much more portable and you could still get some work done.