I'm Tired of Race Tracks Shutting Down... 

Dubious land developers and realtors from the cities duping gullible NIMBYs are the main culprits in that.

What pisses me off even more is when non car people then tell us that we should just go to a race track if we want to drive fast or spirited... this applies moreso to the self-driving car and ICE car ban discussions about people who rightfully point out that cars are a hobby to many people and by banning the act of driving or discouraging the production of fun cars, hobbyists are screwed over. Insurance will fuck you over if you tell them you want to take your daily or weekend car to the track. If you want to be super legal about it you need a car to tow your racing car, not to mention a helmet and other safety equipment installed in your car. Then there's the matter of driving to your nearest track on a day when you have time to go to the event being held, and paying the fee. I drove nearly half a day just to go to my first autocross event! as far as I know, my "local" track doesn't host anything but track days and races, which my WRX is certainly not eligible to participate in. If they did, I'd try to go there more because idgaf about watching races, I want to drive! But yeah people think that we can just "go to a racetrack" whenever we want. It is quite literally cheaper and easier to just send it down an empty road at night when no one's looking.

Car guys and public transit advocates need to partner up against this problem.

I call it the suburban cancer cell. it's the same shit that devours farmland and wilderness while making the city infinitely worse because everyone who visits bitches and whines about a lack of parking. I live in St. Louis where we haven't had a racetrack since the 90s, and its current site is now a residential development way on the edge of wentzville generating far more traffic than the racetrack could ever hope to. the suburbs ruin cities, now let's spend the next 50 years undoing the damage

@@agentzapdos4960 I do wonder how many public transit advocates would want to ban cars versus simply making transportation less car-centric.

It's like Prohibition but with Cars💀

​@@BladedAngelwe bouta get g37s with thompsons out the window now

@@LilTachanka ar15s are the thompsons of modern day, but the point stands not saying we should ban 'em, just trying to make a point

@@urielpuertas9899 nah Glocks with switches are

and all we're left with is BROKEN PROMISES

>rip

I went to a track once, it was 3-4 hrs of driving there and back, I think I was there for 4-6 hours. All for not even half a minute of seat time, I only got to do 2 runs, both of which I bodged horribly. People who say take it to the track don't have a fucking clue how difficult it actually is to do that under the BEST circumstances. Don't even get me started on building a car to regulations to get on a track with actual corners. And then you still have to get a racing license for wheel to wheel. They act like it's golf where we can throw a set of clubs in the trunk drive 30m to a course, walk in, pay, have our fun and leave. Then on top of everything they're shutting down what few tracks we have/have left to begin with.

> car person throws rich person wife

@@grindersandgears3445so real

This is the best simplification of what happening rn so far 😂

They're going to look even more stupid when more Racecars become Hybrids and EV's. Like once we don't make noise or make gas pollution? What excuse will they use next??!?! I swear nothing pleases HOA's! So we shouldn't back down to them from the start! HOLD THE LINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. SAVE OUR TRACKS!

@@BladedAngel Some of these tracks should be cultural landmarks.

@@BladedAngel The noise is a big part of the spectacle. EV race cars will be the death of racing

@@BladedAngel I kinda get some benefits of HOAs, but I just have an overall salty opinion on HOAs for these reasons.

​@BladedAngel oh they will complain that were using up tires

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I worked at a horse farm one time and I was told that once the neighbors started firing off guns in their backyard for whatever reason while the barn owner was out riding and the horse threw her off so when she complained they got all upset over it and I think they tried to fight her too which was so dumb and it’s not like the farm wasn’t visible too it was literally like 50 yards from where they were shooting

Because people are braindead and entitled enough to not care about stepping on everyone else. It's an education problem because we teach our kids to make themselves respected but they're not made to understand how respect should be mutual.

and now you have to take your guns to the streets!

same shit goes for guns overall. banning guns doesnt get rid of them

exactly what's happening rn around he world as well lol

Check Warsaw, they already banned flights in night hours and limited amount of take offs and landings to 60 per day or something like that.

It happens around London Heathrow a lot

@@ast7707 yikes

@Cloudrak that's mind boggling

Ong if EA and Criterion doesn't use this then they are stupid

@@emraldmetals7411 It's EA. They are Stupid.

Need for Speed Heat :Reality Edition

Someone tell Criterion about this. I'm sick of their Sad boi Underground wannabe Holly movie BS. I just wanta more grounded story!

NFS Unbound would have been far more interesting if the characters were actual legit amateur racers who are now causing trouble in the city because the authorities shut down their local racetrack. All the B-plot involving the mayor and the cops and the garage becoming famous would make much more sense... as would the Countach sitting as an unfinished project.

especially considering that a lot of these suburban neighborhoods are built pretty much like a racetrack with intersections. it's not a good idea to use any public road as a racetrack, but it's far safer to do so these rich burbs and piss of the racist agoraphobes than to do so in the city and actually risk the lives of kids walking to and from school

I would like to still see golf courses tbh. That being said, I am sure that the sport can be made far more environmentally friendly. Alterntaively, a golf cart trackday would be seriously awesome.

There's no snowball's chance in hell that they'll shut down Goodwood anytime soon because that track is a heritage site and a global influence.

If Laguna Seca gets shut down The last day they need the loudest cars out there to make a point out of how nice they were being

@@aaronfields57facts! Make it an all day free event. No decibel restrictions. Race all day from 6am to 11pm. Go out with a banger!

The only thing is that airports have a lower of being shut down since people actually understand the purpose of an airport

​@@moussamiller4812While that is true, they still end up forcing special procedures for takeoffs and landings. Often times, they'll have noise abatement takeoff procedures where the aircraft holds the brakes and maximum thrust until the engines have spooled up, then release the brakes and then have to takeoff extremely steep, sometimes so steep that it's pushing the aircraft to it's limits, and then around 1,000 feet, they have to level out and reduce engine power and quietly leave the area before being able to climb like normal. The most extreme of these is KSNA in Southern California, which is often regarded as the steepest commercial airport takeoff in the world. I've flown out of there before, it is quite intense.

@@troyandrade435 Damn that sounds dangerous for inexperienced pilots

@@moussamiller4812 It can be. Very easy to stall in this situation. Not to mention, the runway is very short at KSNA (5,700ft) so when landing, you have to land quickly and stop quickly, which often results in harder than usual landings as you do not have time to try and land smoothly.

@@moussamiller4812 tell me about it, I train in and out of Van Nuys and sometimes i fly into KSNA and the takeoff is fucking wild, my plane is near stall the whole way up to 1000ft, there have nearly been a few accidents because of the steep climbout.

Exactly. They want the next generations to have less fun and enjoyment then theirs

What they want to do is buy up the now. Freed up property, turn it into more housing.

​@@prodyung829it's not that they want them to have less fun, they want to force them into their type of fun. They want others to follow them in lockstep, do the same things, have the same hobbies, and not stray out of line. It makes me sick.

​@@cavalierliberty6838it's annoying as well, like why do they care?

Yep, pretty much. Here's how I interpret this. The stupid ones are just plain dumb stupid. The malicious ones are those who listen to the stupids and embolden them. They are the true enemies.

They can argue the volcano is a force of nature but the track has an owner that operates the track knowing the noise and emissions they produce, therefore they can be held accountable.

@@guavaice1 Except the track is usually there first because tracks are built in open, empty areas with lots of land so that people ARENT disrupted by the noise of machines carrying large amounts of horsepower and large, powerful engines. People keep moving closer and building homes and buildings near said tracks and are complaining, however the track owners should NOT be accountable because they built the track in the open land first and therefore the intention to annoy the public with vehicle noise did not exist at any point.

That's a good law. We need to use that up here in the north. Maybe we could have saved Bandimere

So the law goes: If this track has lasted for more than 1 year, shut up complainer, deal with it!

endless cycle fo stupid, smh

you cant reason with mindless demons.

Dang thats tragic. I hope y'all don't get a spike in street racing, but I wouldn't be surprised if those nice cars start to get bored around town...

Hey I live in Houston and I used to go to the Baytown track on Friday nights and it was always a blast seeing it. Sad they shut down

I grew up going to that track with my dad who use to race there since the late 80s lol Instead of carrying on that tradition I’m stuck “roll racing” and chasing better dragy times

At least y’all still have Houston Motorsports Park

It’s funny when that’s the last thing you think about when you buy a house I’m not gonna sit around for multiple days to find out if there’s gonna be noise we actually have the right to peace and quiet but it sucks when the police refuse to do anything about it

@@slapshotjack9806 you dont have to sit around for multiple days. Its kind of common sense to expect motorcycles on such roads. Thats like buying a house on a river and complaining about boats.

beggars can't be choosers. I thought Europe was supposed to be free of American style entitlement... If they close the Nurburgring down then all hope is lost for us petrolheads.

@@pophilio that analogy was so stupid most people don’t care which roads others like to drive because for them driving a car is a chore and not a downtime so those little details are often overlooked

😂16th 😊

You're missing the point when the track gets shut down and turned into suburbia or condos That increases property value. Usually makes money for housing developers It's all about the money. Also I am someone from the Northeast. We tend to make more money because higher cost of living. And instead of keeping our money up here we can move down South and live like a king for half the price with good weather and money talks more than the locals and yes don't worry about me I'm nuts I want to move even more north rural Vermont

What does Yankees mean? Isn't that a word for all Americans?

​@@sarimsalman2698 Yankees are people above the mason-dixon line.

@@sarimsalman2698 Yankee is a southern slang for A northerner that would be roughly maryland To somewhere like Detroit or Vermont

@@TwoDollarGararge Is that a remnant of the Civil War time?

indeed😥

You're missing the point when the track gets shut down and turned into suburbia or condos That increases property value. Is it usually makes money for housing developers It's all about the money.

​​@@TwoDollarGarargeThe housing developers can't just up and do whatever the hell they want either just be they are the HOA. Things like that will get their asses kicked.

Me with my FXDR RN. They closed a dragway near me, so I just had to do my 1/4 mile time on an empty country road instead. I'm mature enough to wait to do that, but I ain't gonna act like lots of ppl will just say, "Ah fuck it" and start speeding through traffic instead.

I wanna build a GT300 style FTO, but it will be pointless if my local track gets shut down.

“That’s the neat part, you don’t.” ~Omniman

Race in track mostly doesnt kill Cigarettes kill

@@Enea_28 yup

@@shadow6953no offense but I’m left confused by your grammar 😭

@@FemboySprite101 Yeah sry English is my second language 😅. Well to be clearer, someone, someday spoke to me about that : Cars are dangerous and have no right to go fast ever. Time fly and I get angry so I said something about smoking is worse and got another 45 min of monologue.... Did you understand it?

@@shadow6953 yeah I get it now 😭 they don’t realize that cancer is permanent I’m glad you confronted them of their hypocrisy

Y'all Ohio MFs are lucky you exist in a 9th plane of reality that is impermeable by anyone who isn't some SCP horror like entity. In all seriousness, the Midwest is the birthplace of Motorsports, not just in the US, but in the entire world. I hope they hold onto those tracks for decades to come...!

I used to go there every year before i moved to California. There was this track called the Saugus Speedway close to where i live now and thats property is being rebuilt. But apparently it hasn't been used since California changed there license plate lol

im in cleveland and the closes strip and track are out in summit and Garrettsville . theres houses out there but nobody really cares because the homes are so damn far apart from one another that the farmers and rednecks dont care .

Same thing happened with lime rock. It's in the middle of nowhere surrounded by miles of woods on all sides the small town around is dependent on the track weekends

What’s some tracks you recommend visiting in Ohio (both tarmac and dirt)

This is why we should retaliate and fight back against the HOA, and tell the developers to piss off.

100% Agree, they're literally ruining lives. @@TheSilverShadow17

@@saraverlind Those people are hypocrites alongside the ones who keep building houses near race tracks or want car guys to go to race tracks, because us racers get told to take our shit to a track just for that track to get turned into suburbs or a strip mall or any planned development area. At this point this means war even if we're left with the streets as a battleground.

​@@TheSilverShadow17 they do this on purpose, because it is cheaper to build their McMansions in places that are considered less than desirable. Kicking these racetracks to the curb increases the property values of their homes

@@hertzwave8001 Us car guys don't give a rats ass about their homes, we need somewhere to properly race our cars, and if they keep on taking that aspect away we'll be left with nowhere but the streets.

If Laguna Seca loses this, then there's literally no hope for any racetrack...

International protest

Languna Seca should be a world heritage site. Willow Springs too.

​@@andrewesau51I am sure there are no houses near Willow Springs, but if usage of that track falls over time, they may demolish the facility like they did with Riverside.

​@@Tornado2409That's more likely when Nürburgring is threatened as well.

That might be detrimental to your cause, though. Try adopting Bladed Angel's method of making their argument backfire: show up in the Mustang quietly, and point out how they didn't hear it all this time. If that doesn't work, proceed with the original plan, but set the venue much closer to the complainers.

@@dbclass4075 hmmmm good point. Will take into consideration

legal nonsense*

Perfect place to retire.

Bro don’t watch join in if you can that craps fun

IKR, Mexico popping off real good. I hear you can make a portal to Mexico anywhere a street race starts now.

Wtf Forza Horizon 5 irl??? No way!

Hate left lane campers with a passion, they think the PASSING lane is "the fast lane" and that fast exclusively means 5 mi an hour over the limit, like the majority aren't doing 20 over nowadays bc limits haven't changed in half a century but cars have. Which I wish Bladed would do a video on that, maybe draw awareness to all the issues it causes, like massive speed differentials, ie. what actually causes accidents NOT speeding, but the fact that grandpa will do the limit no matter how ridiculous it is or that everyone else is doing 20 over. Or the fact that god forbid you be doing 25 over and get pulled over the ticket is going to destroy you bc you aren't doing 5 over, you're doing 25 over. The best part is, the same assholes on the radio saying "sPeEdInG kIlLs" are the same ones profiteering off of not changing the limits(Which would in fact makes things safer, bc of aforementioned speed differentials being the real issue) to follow THEIR OWN GUIDELINES on setting limits, which is an 80% rule, bc 80% of us 99% of the time just want to drive at the maximum reasonably safe speed, almost like we want to get where were going in a timely fashion, while not having an accident. Crazy.

Well Laguna Seca is in a desert kinda so it's what you described

Sounds like something that'd happen in the Mojave Desert

​@@alexcuevas5633Make it cold desert, then. Or jungle.

RiSE uP gAMERs oh wait

they literally try to ruin everything. Its because both these people are leeches and they cant stand to see young people having fun and doing something else besides working and paying taxes to finance their leech ass

I just want EVs to implement Formula E technology... we already have ICE cars using F1 tech, such as the AMG One and the Aston Martin Valkyrie.

What does EVs have to do with anything in this clip?

@@X2011racer I don't think there is super exciting and exclusive tech in Formula E. In Formula 1 you had a lot of innovations over time regarding the powertrain, making it more efficient, hybridization and so on. In Formula E it is pretty much a higher density battery, more powerful and lighter motors, higher charging/discharging rates... basically a few iterations ahead of the tech that you can buy already, so nothing dramatic like, I don't know, charging batteries from exhaust gases.

Right? And then they proceed to complain, "whY dON'T yOU aLL GeT oFF uR DaMN PhoNES!"

Lol exactly these older generations want the younger generations to have no fun. They swear they had it harder 😂

Not like video games are good nowadays It’s mostly shit

You know, there's other outdoor hobbies that are cheaper. Try hiking or mountain to not like cars and bikes are the only thing

And then they complain that no one wants to go outside anymore. I cannot fathom the mental gymnastics, they must be olympic gold medallists

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It’s like common sense gets left behind when idiot by houses near these places.

fortunate for me and the boi in my city (here in sea), our city racetrack are owned by gov or gov-owned corporate so they can tell the hoa to suck it

IMO stuff like touge is really cool, but even those guys go to tracks to hone and push themselves to their true limit.

One Kart Track near me shut down due to COVID lock downs. Now it's just another commercial office building, like all the other commercial buildings surrounding the track in the past.

NFS already is predicting this bs lol, these old people never learn do they

FR. I plan an Moving to Wyoming because of this. No HOAs, No Karens, Just dirt and snow.

ba dum tss

They also need to be accessible and have enough variety to fit the desires of every enthusiast. I do not want to take my WRX to an oval track or drag strip. I want to take it to a winding mountain road where I can experience it's immense level of grip. But I can't afford to go if I will have my insurance policy dropped over even *mentioning* this to them in an effort to be as transparent as possible, nor can I justify the trip if it is several hours away. But if people needed less cars, then that would free up land where new tracks can be developed. The problem is though, I suspect that if public transport got to the level where it's the 'defualt', then suburbia would expand to the point where outside of city limits it would either be vast farms or cookie cutter neighborhoods.

Easy, entirely property valuation or cheap land

Car guys are gonna be going through the same shit gun guys are going through soon enough.

3 months later, cant you assholes take it to a racetrack-HOA leach

I know right, freaking weeds.

No kidding, wake up and find one built would give me a chubby!!!

Oh so closing down Laguna Seca is a personal issue?🤨 What a miserable dude

@@alexcuevas5633 He was honestly just looking for something or someone to blame.

Its a sad era for car enthusiasts 😢

I don't really mind ev's but just they giving us no freedom of choice old cars don't really easily get fixed legally in the future with new bs laws introduced like you cannot weld that you cannot fix that and everything gettin' real unaffordable

I mean, Hyundai and Caterham prove that EVs don’t necessarily mean the end of the car community. They just mean the end of an era for the car community. It can still survive and thrive in other ways, and hopefully as more enthusiast-oriented EVs are built, enthusiasts start to notice that. But racetracks shutting down is sad. That much I will agree with

Apparently EVs are having a bad time. Granted, in the EU they’re putting policies out preventing people from restoring old cars, so that people are forced to buy new EVs. Canada is also wanting to eliminate out petrol market in a matter of years. But in the US, EVs aren’t sticking. People aren’t buying them. Chrysler and Honda were thinking of starting a project for 400K new EVs, but have since cancelled that. With Chrysler wondering if they should drop out of that market altogether. If they do, I’m buying a Corvette.

@@Phendranaguardian yeah, that sucks alot Firstly here it is illegal to weld a subframe. And a ton of dumb laws incoming for car repairs which drive people to black market repairs Which is ridiculous concidering car repairs instead of buying a new taxxed to the hell and beyond new car is environmentally a pretty ok decision Also for importing cars sadly like some countries and states already have which makes moving nice cars to other countries a hassle It is a big business importing cars from germany to here, they are not so much used and they’ve got models or trim levels we ain’t got or got so little of due to recession and in past we only got mostly basemodels Only redeemable part about future is those third party spare parts getting more and more common for enthusiast models so we don’t have to tear apart another car And more intresting EV models that are not just another crossover or SUV I kinda like the EV Charger’s looks despite it kinda sounding like an vaccuum cleaner And the new Prelude deserves a mention too

that's gotta be the dumbest shit ever man. Instead of forcing yourself to be a normie, help your fellow enthusiasts out! At the very least, you'll make friends, and you will stop trying to deny part of who you are.

That's depressing as fuck

Dude, that sucks. I’m so sorry to hear shit’s gotten to you that way. I hope one day you come back (or perhaps find a hobby that’s more accepting). If you want my two cents, watch collecting isn’t a bad alternative, given that cars and watches tend to go hand-in-hand. No matter where the future takes you tho, I truly do wish you the best

not sure where you live or who's nagging you but that's not right. Everyone has a right to enjoy their hobbies. If these people have any sort of hobby or sport and try to convince you to join, I would basically tell them to eat shit

Yeah, I’ve kinda dropped out and gone into miniature painting. Warhammer and 1/48 scale planes/tanks. Though I still have my Charger. Its not a V8, but it’s something I can use to make the lives of CUV & EV drivers miserable in every way possible. If you drive one of those insults to automation and a black charger refuses to let you merge, sorry in advance. It’s out of principle & spite.

"My foot slipped off of the clutch pedal!" "I'm not buying that." - Jeremy Clarkson and an American police officer

I'd rather support a multi million industry that employs Tens of thousands in their area (Hundreds of Thousands Across States). Then please like 30 millionaires at a Country Club. Even Skateboarding is a Billionaire Industry. Doesn't mean people should start yelling, "EAT THE RICH" at a skatepark though. There's a difference in Wealth Spread across individual amount.

Those people are so short sighted.

It's so much better than some dumbass parking lot car meet. I have seen some genuinely cool and "real" builds. Havent made lifelong friends there yet but still. It's worth it 100%

What also helps: airports are seen as more utilitarian. Their benefits are very obvious to anyone, even non-aviation enthusiasts.

After seeing an abandoned raceway at NFS Heat, now I know why.

Lmao

But you still said it and now are first.

Bro hates himself

Those guys should look into karting

good

Imagine if they closed Bathurst 💀

If they redeveloped Bathurst that would cause such discontent with the gov. that it could cause a civil war

Sim racing does get very boring very quickly. (Unless it's modded Mariokart of course lmao)

@@Tornado2409 I can appreciate it as a tool to get used to driving maneuvers and training but the g forces, body roll, pitch, yaw, and the general fact that what's happening is real and not simulated makes actual racing so much more sweet. After having played racing games for years because I was too young to have my license, and now having my license... I don't ever want to go back.

I just wish EV and ICE cars could coexist.

Lawnmower racing exists. Why not add a golf cart class?

Nah, just get a 4x4 with a lot of torque and mulch up all that green.

"What do you want to do, Mayor?" "Save the damn racetrack!"