Seeing so many mistakes happening is what makes channels like yours more authentic. Sh!t happens to all of us yet you find a solution. That's a good example for me! Keep up the amazing work you do!
Watching the mistakes on the cnc reminded me of all the mistakes I have made on mine, I mainly cut aluminium though so it’s a bit harder to patch up haha
The Douglas Fir top is going to expand and contract with ambient heat and humidity across the grain; in other words the overall width of the table top is going to change over time. This is going to be a problem for the end pieces of mahogany trim, which are not going to change in length over time, or not much, anyway. With hardwood that had been kiln dried this would still be a problem, but with Douglas Fir that is considerably moister than hardwood, it's definitely a problem and the miters in the mahogany border are going to open up. How do I know this? I built a Douglas Fir table with dovetailed breadboard ends (to attempt to avoid the above problem) and there is indeed considerable movement. Somedays the breadboard ends are proud of the edges of the top, sometimes they are shorter. Not a particularly attractive solution, but at least it was intended. (s) The Voice of Doom
The 2nd crash at about 9:30 is due to what is called a dogleg rapid. Basically there's 3 general ways a machine can move to a given point. It can do a synchronized move where each axis arrives at the target destination at the same time, it can do an independent move which is basically 3 separate moves (this is generally how machines home by default), or it can do a "dogleg" move where each axis moves to the target point as fast as possible. Dogleg rapids are generally the default and have caused problems for many a machinist over the years. Most posts will have an option to output rapids as g1 instead of g0 which is a quick way to avoid the issue all together.
Being the granddaughter of a woodworker/carpenter, seeing the furniture pieces being designed and built is a thrill and a treat. I like to believe that my Grandpa would have enjoyed watching you build this.
Love the way the table turned out. Little concerned about the trim glued on the end grain due to wood movement and one suggestion about finishing, I've learned that it's easier to apply finish before assembly. Great work!
Awesome watch and nice build! Absolutely love it when makers show their mistakes. Major bonus when you talk it through in detail in order to help people like me who make those mistakes ten-fold! Thank you!
On the two panel glue up sand bags, vacuum bag, body building weights, buckets of water. My preferred would be the vacuum bag. More even clamping pressure.
"the satisfying finishing pass" - wow you're not kidding! That's satisfying as heck! Congrats and best wishes to the lucky couple, and I hope they enjoy their awesome-looking table. That bit where you have to nip off a bit of the wood because it's getting in the way of the leg reminds me of a time when I did up a whole 3D model of some shelves to go under the stairs in a loft apartment, got the shelves in place, started putting them together, and realized I forgot to leave room for a human being to get in behind them and screw in the last support... couldn't just put them together out in the open because they had to tuck in behind the beam of the stairs in a funny way... to this day those shelves are lovely, very useful, and still missing a cross-brace in the back.
I just recently saw a cool trick for the pieces not to slide when you're doing a glue up. You either scrape some abrasive material from a sanding disc (like a 50 grit sand paper) in between your 2 pieces, or you put some salt (the salt will dissolve over time depending on the type of glue). This will prevent the pieces from sliding all over and staying on your marks.
The table looks amazing. The only thing I didn't like was the rounded dowels in a different tone covering the screw holes on the legs. But that's just a detail, and I definitely love the finished piece. You always deliver, man. Cheers!
I swear it's a must for a RU-vid woodworker to have imposter syndrome at this point. All y'all do is cry about some comments someone made. Relax, you guys do great work and we love it
Beautiful. I think when the temp changes, the table top fir will cause the mahogany border to separate when it expands and contracts. Had this happen on a table I built. Good luck! Looks beautiful.
If you're routing an edge detail or flush-cutting with a template, watch your grain. If it looks like you're going to get tear-out, stop. Pick up your router, set it down at the far end of the edge, and rout from right to left. It's called a climb cut, and I have no doubt there are a number of RU-vid videos on the subject.
Very nice project! When i glue big flat pieces together i like to use a little bit of table salt in between. Sprinkle some in the corners and it adds traction so the pieces dont move on eachother. And the salt will dissapear and dissolve in the glue😃👍🏻
First of all I love your channel. You generally wing a few things in your videos that are questionable but will probably be ok in the end. But the mahogany border has not increased the durability of the table, and in fact sealed the fate of it. They fall off on the ends of that table in 1-2 years max, possibly next week, do to the movement of the Douglas fir. I would also be concerned about that "locked in" inlay on the bottom either causing the table to warp over time or potentially cracking the table in the winter when the Douglas fir shrink and the mahogany cannot, but does have those nice side pieces you put in to push off of. All fixable when they happen though, unless it cracks, so that's good. In any case, I'm a subscriber and wish you the best!
I used to have a lot of problems with routing long, shallow tapers in hard maple and the wood wanting to chip out. So I invested in some whiteside spiral carbide pattern bits, and that pretty much solved it.
I would have like to have seen mahogany inlays on the table surface for the positioning of the cups for Beer Pong. I'm kidding, it looks amazing! And congratulations, Camera Man Cam.
A CNC is just another tool. It's just a fancy router. For your issues, if I have to stop a program in mid cut, I manually jog the tool up, do what needs doing, then resume. If I have to move the tool away from where the work stopped, I manually put it back above the spot before resuming the program. Alternatively, you can restart the program from the beginning (if it's not too long), and just let it cut air until it gets back to the workpiece. This prevents some mistakes. Ask me how I know... Also, I often run a preview of the program without a tool, and\or with the Z's zeroed out, so I am more confident that the tool path is what I really wanted. also, instead of trying to vacuum around a moving machine, I prefer to use an air gun to blow away chips that the dust collector misses. I this is a lot safer. Nice table! (Though I am also worried about your edge strips in the long term)
Living in a timber frame home with Douglas Fir posts and beams as well as Doug Fir doors and trim all over, I have learned one thing. Douglas Fir is a pain in the butt to work with. The blow outs when trying to plane or rout something can take hours worth of work and turn it into a complete mess. Very impressed with how you dealt with this challenging wood species. It looks amazing in my home and that table would be awesome, but my level of patience with Doug Fir has run its course over the years. Thanks for sharing.
I think you made the right call when it came to the lag bolts. I follow The Samurai Carpenter who works almost exclusively in that style, and the level of precision required is insane. This table is GORGEOUS, and I want to heartily congratulate your cameraman! What a lovely gift!
You will always learn more from mistakes than successes. Trying to learn more from other's errors is a measure of our maturity and achievement. When you do not make mistakes, you forge ahead quickly but often gain only a perspective on how to do it right; mistakes mean that you had to rethink your process, sometimes more than once, to achieve that desired result. It is the same in all endeavors. The story of this table is so much more interesting with the "warts" thrown in- the perseverance it takes to push on through makes it more memorable to you and to Cam and Aaron in their new home and family. But just in case Beer Pong happens, lots of urethane, layers of it, would be a nice protection when he forgets to think about the genesis of the table after the fourth or fifth beer! Next challenge; make a traditional pool or snooker table that is designed to be moved in pieces and reassembled; this is how they all used to be made when wood was solid and a pile of it was heavy! Even Grand Pianos are so designed, to be moved more than a little bit. Speaking of a challenge, find an old Grand Piano with a case that has been mauled and build and finish a new one; put it in your front "commercial" window! If it is too daunting, just start with building a piano bench seat. Btw, I cannot do any of these things, but you want to do them and often do them very well, so play on through! To your continued success, Counselor! Someone here was cracking about You Tubers always trying to stay ahead with their critics; most of your audience are probably not wood workers- April Wilkerson's aren't either. But you both respond to YT "expert critics" with a wince and CYA statement; here is some "free advice" from such a YT Critic- sometimes you have to remember is is your project, what it is, what it will be and how it gets there, are all yours; critics too often find fault where you the creator had to finish the job and critics get to go straight to the next channel. Btw, if you aren't having fun while you do all this, it will affect your product- both the things you make and the YT content. Sometimes stopping to have that game of beer pong is a very good idea, just edit that part a bit for the Algorithm!
CNC tip: use a larger ball end mill, like 1/2”, for a smoother finish, you’ll have less scallops. Also I would recommend using fusion’s scallop pass for finishing instead of parallel in both directions, will be much faster.
I think it's admirable to let go of your own ego and make sure the joints are strong. With that said, I do think you are a skilled woodworker and I would very much like to see a project without any glue, nails or screws.
The table top could have been made entirely of hardwood and been easier and lighter if it was hollow. I love that you’re willing to document your RU-vid learning process, but you would benefit greatly if you spent more time learning woodworking from someone with in-depth traditional woodworking expertise.
Your trip to the woodworking store looks like every trip to a woodworking store i have made all my life. Its kinda impressive how much stuff you come out with you didnt expect :D
Well done, problem solving is a very sought after skill between professionals nowadays... I'm also thrilled that you inserted Isaac Albeniz's Asturias song at the end of your video
@@modustrial **I IMAGINE CAM AND HIS GIRLFRIEND, AARON, VOMITING 🤮🤮🤮🤮 ON EACH OTHER WHILE LISTENING TO "ENDLESS LOVE" BY LIONEL RICHIE AND DIANA ROSS!!** --- ROSEANNE BARR
I’m still new into woodworking so I pretty much exclusively use cheap pine softwood and I get less tear out when I go the wrong direction with the router lol. You get a bit more burning but definitely less tear out on cheaper softwood.
I hope those 4x4 were dry. I made a table from construction lumber with a walnut inlay. That table shrank so much in a few weeks that I trashed the table and went another route. You did a great job. It looks good.
That sure beats the melamine over chipboard with brass-plated tubular leg dining table I had the first 10 years of marriage! Beautiful design and finished piece, and I wish Cam and his "woman" a long and happy union!
I build dioramas - stuff like you do on a much, much smaller scale. We all have those cursed projects that you just have to muscle through with sheer stubbornness and get them finished! Turned out great in the end. I love my 3D printer BTW - they are an absolutely amazing tool to have in the workshop. And - congratulations to the future Mr. and Mrs. Cam!
Cool design! While you were making the under carriage, I was thinking that it looked better (to me) the other way up. The way you made it with the legs tapering towards the bottom you kept the pyramid motif, with things getting slimmer as thet moved away from the table top. With the under carriage upside-down, however, and the legs getting slimmer towards the top, the effect would have been more like looking at a tree: A wide trunk getting slimmer towards the top, and a large canopy above. In that case, the upside-down pyramid would have to sit in some kind of cradle with angled parts, a bit like a boat sitting on supports. (Hey, that might actually be a cool idea for a boat inspired table!) Otherwise, I like how you include hand tools in some of the steps. Try a small European scrub plane some day (search "Schrupphobel", Ulmia and ECE are well known makers, but second hand models are cheap as chips). They are lightweight and ridiculously efficient at removing a lot of wood, you could do a lot of roughing out with that to save time and to wear out the machinery less.
Turned out amazing, love the inlay for some added interest underneath. Good luck to cameraman Cam, I didn't think men were still insane enough to get married these days, regardless good luck to you sir.
Beautiful table.....very nice job! Much better than the cheap table my wife and I had when we started out along with our other Ikea furniture. Congrats Cam!
Congratulations Cam! Get better quick. The gremlins were after you big time this project. I've had my shares of troubles on projects. When I built my first computer desk a few years ago I had more setbacks than success. So no judgement from me.
Don't like the color combo you chose but seeing how you got to these cool shapes was really interesting! Also liked that you used cheaper wood, makes it more approachable. Good job staying focused on the learning!
You should talk to Frank Howarth, he does loads of obscure CNC work making puzzle pieced bowls and other projects that require odd angles and clever solutions.
I was programming a robot as an electrician at a GM facility. I set a point for a spot weld, then moved up, over, and back down on the other side to set another point. After setting several more points, I ran a test at too high a speed. The robot took a shortcut between the first two points and punched a hole through the rear quarter panel of a car body.
OMG I love seeing you go out to the stores cause I live in Chicago and grew up in the Burbs, I know EXACTLY where that Rockwell store is, I have eaten at that Melting Pot near it a few times 😅This is great, I love when makers let us see the mistakes so it makes projects like these feel a bit more approachable! As a new home owner and a maker myself, These vids make feel a bit better about attempting some simple builds! I gotta start somewhere right?
Hell yeah 3d printing! But also use a FTG (Flat Tooth Grind) table saw blade and you won't have to clean it up with a chisel. Less work and its significantly more clean and crisp. They also stay sharp longer 17:00
It's really super nice! The only only little tiny thing that bugs me is the HUGE grain on that new growth wood. I'm old enough to know what the beautiful fine grain of old growth timber looks like. It's a shame that stuff is pretty much gone.
I don't know why some folks get so bent out of shape over CNCs being used in woodworking. I've used CNCs in metalworking before, and no one said I wasn't a real machinist. Heck, I had one experienced machinist tell me "You're not a real machinist until the CNC throws an engine block across the room." You're not a guitarist if you play electric guitar. You're not a framer if you use a nail gun. You're not a singer if you use a microphone. You're not disabled if you use an electric wheelchair. Nah, I see wood, I see work being done. You're good on semantics alone, brother.
On the top, I think I would have used wood hardener to help resist dents and markings but not sure how the finish would look with that added.. Great job..
this is exactly what vacuum bags were made for - large unruly glue-ups. Also, those dowels sticking out proud of the vertical leg supports are sticking out like a sore thumb literally.
Congrats to cameraman Cam on your engagement. Now don't let Mike screw up your relationship for you by making you spend to much time behind that camera filming him making multiple mistakes :P lmao. I wish you and Erin (sp?) nothing but the best in life. As for the CNC not being real wood working I have to say that much like when using traditional methods the tool is only as good as the person using it
Making the tabletop from 4x4s is the perfect gift for a young couple... They can use it, party on it, move it between apartments. She can commission you to build Cam a solid mahogany top for their 5yr anniversary😂 I built my younger brother a 3x6 dining table as an engagement gift, the top was a butcherblock style made from fir 4x4s. He and his wife were in a tiny apartment, they beat the crap out of that tabletop making stuff for rheir wedding, doing DIY projects and taking care of toddlers. 5 years later, when they moved into a much bigger and nicer home, he and I repurposed the table into a garage workbench that is still serving them very well a decade later.
If it were my table, I would have preferred if the plugs on the legs had been sanded flush and stained the same dark colour so you wouldn't really notice that there were bolts holding the stretcher in. Especially since you were originally going for the Japanese Sashimono look.
If you do it again: Add stiff and chunky "riser blocks" to the top of the legs (either add on or part of the legs) that "lego" into the bottom of the table top. That will help with a cleaner design, and take the leg stretcher away.
5:30 depending on the geometry, maybe screw the piece at edges to get seamless glue up around the edges, and then use clamps / weight to get a good bond in the center? Then the screw holes can get taken out when routing the pyramid profile. Might require making the "bottom" panel a bit oversized, idk.
Would have been really cool if you built it in two pieces (top and bottom) and hollowed out a honey comb structure on the inside to make it lighter and then joined the pieces at the end.
I don't like your woodworking projects, because there is no Caulk-Talk... just kidding! I love all the projects you do: woodworking, renovation, concrete...
Love the look. Glad you showed the learning points or “mistakes”. My only concern is the grain direction on the mahogany border behind end grain to long grain and I am expecting that table to To move some seasons. Now this may be a bit of dogma or may not be.
The only different thing I would have done is doweled strategically the 4x4's internally before glue and clamps, so they could be hidden below the cnc cuts.
