Today we upgrade the new Arrma Typhon Grom RC Basher buggy with 4s Brushless Power and big tires! Will it survive? It is faster and more powerful than WL Toys, Hyper Go and Rlaarlo? Let's Find out!
Yeah if it hadn't broken I could have done more. I was kind of building up to just holding the throttle down when I left the ramp but never quite got there.
Awesome upgrade video! I would've thought they were more upgrade ready and reliable out of the box for that price, it's kind of disappointing. Lots of good info as usual thanks and keep it up! 👍
Unfortunately not really. The stock drive train is fine for stock power and mild 2s brushless but you need to upgrade at least the differentials if you want to go further than that.
Yeah I didn't expect the stock tires to hold up as well as they did. I would probably go a little bit bigger but to be honest it's not really necessary there. They're good
Such a great job with the upgrades. I agree that the 3s setup is perfect. Would you mind sharing a link or product information to the Mamba Micro Xtreme combo that you mentioned would fit better than the motor that you installed? Thanks very much. Really enjoy watching your videos.
I don't know for sure that the 1007 motor would fit but I've had other people say to try the combo with the 1007 motor at I think 6,700 KV. You should be able to find that combo on Amazon.
You should start posting links to the parts you add to these trucks, that way those of us that want to do these upgrades can easily source them. Other than that, good video! These trucks are a TON of fun. Bought one for my 6 year old (yes he is young, but I got into hobby grade RC trucks at 8 with a TMAXX 3.3), and being my first ARMA product, I am definitely impressed.
Glad you enjoyed. I don't do links for two reasons for the first one is that I don't want to have to keep up with the links cuz they're always changing and the second and more important one is that I don't want people to think I'm trying to profit off these videos because that's not the purpose of the channel.
Great vid! Keep it up with the new places to bash. See you soon after I am home from Dallas, Texas. Watching the Sweet Sixteen. The only thing I am missing is an rc car to run out here. Any ideas on a good travel rc car? Batteries 🔋 will be an issue.
Batteries aren't really as volatile as some people think they are. As long as you don't get them too hot you can travel with them. Personally I think smaller is better when it comes to traveling.
I think you only had to upgrade the diffs and motor and esc. I'll be doing this on a budget in my next video. I'm going 3s motor swap. I remember you saying in the granite Grom video that the shocks were most likely not needed so it's interesting to see you upgrading them. Great video!
Honestly the only reason I upgraded them is because I pulled all those parts off the granite :-) I'm not sure if the outdrives are necessary to upgrade or not. I haven't run big power on the plastic ones.
I had turned my 3s typhon and 6s radix6 into monster truggies with the 2.8 mx28s and its alot of fun. Its a nice change up from a nimble buggy to a Muggy and fun to bash around. Cool upgrade project Do RC!!
goddamn!!! i've been able to control my compulsive upgrading in my older age but i have a tendancy to go balls to the walls on one car a year, the TG might be that car this year. i love this little nugget, ton of fun in stock form
I think I am going to try the exact setup but just curious what 3s battery are you running? This is a great vid and I have been wanting to upgrade a grom soooo badly.
Hot racing mod 0.5 1/8 in bore pinion and I don't even remember what battery I use. It was some old FPV quad battery that I had. Definitely not the ideal option.
The offroad running portion of this video was oddly reminiscent of the first runs of the Maxx Slash with all the bouncing and crashing. Looks like a fun little rig for smooth surfaces.
Yeah for sure. I was definitely running it on rougher surfaces than it needed to be but I feel like it's a little bit different than the slash. It's understandable for a little car like this to be bouncing around on bumps like that but not quite as acceptable on a giant car like the slash. Honestly I think this thing handles rough off-road better than the slash.
@@DoRC That was honestly my first thought when I saw a Maxx Slash run. "It bounces like a little 16th scale car'. I also agree with its excusable for a 2 pound car with less than an inch of suspension travel but not a 8th scale truck. But, both are pretty good on smooth flat surfaces and at least they're tough.
I would say that this is similar in quality to the LC racing though the LC racing will have the advantage of more features such as all steel gears and drivetrain etc. This has the advantage in ease of repair and upgrades.
Probably not but if you take a look at my granite grom brushless video I have a budget set up in it that you should be able to get away with running 2S on without upgrading things.
@@DoRC That's too high… ;) I now have a WLToys 124007 which is okay in proportions (w/ fpv just 120 mm high), just the wheelbase could be e bit longer (relative to it's width) and the build quality is very poor. So I'm looking for a small buggy w/ a long wheel base and a body large enough for at least 3000 maH 3S and space for the O3 air unit. I've got a 1/10 Lasernut which is a FPV banger (see my channel) but need a replacement for the WLToy - a car small enough to fit inside a daypack but in higher quality.
I can tell you from personal experience that the diffs can’t handle 4 packs of factory power out of the box. 😡 lol love these quick videos man! Keep it up
I ran 2 pack thru it stock then put in the traxxas velinion system and ran probably 7 packs on 3s before anything broke i thought it was pretty impressive for plastic diff gears
Not true. I've had my granite grom for over a week now and have put probably 20 packs of the factor 2s through it and zero issues with the differentials. And I've abused the hell out of it; hard jumps, hard acceleration, driving through thick brush, getting sticks stuck in the drive train to lock up the diff, etc, and it's still going strong on stock diffs. I will however upgrade to all metal when the local hobby shop gets them in stock as I plan to go full brushless setup.
I love your videos especially when your in the backyard ripping those rigs. Im too frugal to spend the 💰 on arrma or traxxas lol but my Remohobby 1631 rips on 3s 65+ mph
Very cool build! Is really nice to see how easy it is to work, but the price of the full metal diffs and driveshaft is about 106 euro here in Holland, the car itself is 145 euro. Ouch. And then the motor upgrade... More ouch! Again, cool build, but it comes with a heavy price. I think you could buy a Kraton 4s for you have spend.
Just wondering since you reply a lot. I cut the connector off the stock 16bl30 so it was just the metal pins, and soldered those into an xt60 connector. It’s in there good and soldered. Do I need to bring it to bare wire or will it work the way I did it. If that makes sense lol.
@@DoRC looked similar to a tamaiya. Also now the LMT 2mm pinion seems wobbly on the 2mm HW shaft … I’m about to give up that’s what I was told to buy on the FB page lol.
@@G35Jeesh ok well as long as it's solidly soldered it should technically be fine. There isn't a ton of currently being passed though the more connections you have the more resistance. not sure about the pinion.
Yeah Castle modified the X2 to have an internal BEC sometime last year. I don't remember exactly when. It is still possible to get the X2 without the internal BEC depending on how long were you get it from has had them stocked.
They are Traxxas 7378. It depends on what you're trying to do. I'm not sure what their original purpose was but they really don't get much grip. It might be more controllable on 2S but honestly I think I would recommend trying something like 3S in fraction tires instead.
Love the video!! For the CC combo what bore size is it? Is the OEM motor bore size the same as the castle? For the esc connectors did you go IC3? I plan on doing IC3 and just get regular battery’s and convert them to IC3 What do you think is that a good idea?
@@lilbeanboiiii Yes if you want to emulate this you'll need to get 1/8 bore mod 0.5 pinions. As far as I know only hot racing makes them. You can get them on eBay in several different sizes.
@@lilbeanboiiii it's possible that I do but in my admittedly limited search I couldn't find anything other than the hot racing ones. It seems like 1/8 in mod 5 is fairly uncommon
The sand us brutal. I live in long beach and the sand is so fine from so much traffic that it gets into everything. The clean up after means you've gotta strip it down fully. I stopped after the second sand run. Too much work in the end. Dirt and gravel are much easier to deal with. The sand is a lot of fun though dammit. 😂
Yeah pretty much everywhere I bash is sugar Sand at least to some degree and it always sucks when I have to clean or work on them but it is what it is :-)
Initially I went with the adjustable one but after fighting the mesh adjustment for 20 minutes I just went back to the stock plastic one. I was using an 18 tooth pinion anyway so I figured I would just go with it. Seemed to work well though if you're using a different tooth pinion that's probably not going to work for you.
@@DoRC I’ve tried the stock 18 and I bought arrmas motor mount kid I’ve tried every size from 18-22 meshes fine before too cover goes on but after top cover is on it’s so tight you can’t move the tires, did you experience anything like that?
One of these for me would be a project I’m aware there fragile diff wise but I’m still thinking of pre ordering the typhon . Also can I ask the shaft size in the typhon brushed motor please
I would try the 6350kv 1007 motor from castle, can run up to 3s and is much shorter than the 1010. Run one with the micro x2 in my reflex 14mt and it goes even just on 2s (44mph on 2s).
Yeah for sure. I think the 10:07 motor would be more appropriate. Not only would you not have to hack up the chassis but it would also almost certainly be more than enough power.
@DoRC do you know if the 18t is the largest? I have a 21 right now from LC Racing. I swear this thing goes 50 on 2s but the pinion doesn't look the best. Part of me wants to try and design a 48p Slipper system for the groms. Would solve all the gearing issues. But im not settled on these diffs either these little things are overpriced without having a rebuild kit available.
Pretty much everything in the optional parts list on horizon's website and then a castle micro X2 ESC with 1010 motor though you have to modify the chassis to install the 1010 motor. You'll also need a hot racing 1/8 in pinion in the tooth count of your choice
@@DoRC thanks! Just wanted to make sure those granite parts worked on the typhon. Btw, that thing is ridiculous fast and looks super fun now! Thanks for the help!
@benjamin3769 Yes. As far as I can tell everything for the granite will also work on the typhon. The typhon springs are a little bit shorter so if you get the shocks you might want to swap them over though that's just dependent on how much sag you want.
This is the video I was waiting for the longest!!! I really want to copy your set up! If I end up pulling the trigger i will still get the 1010 motor I wanna have an over kill lil beast too. I still don’t understand why you had to take the cover off the esc? Also would this work w a dumboRc receiver? 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah I didn't make it clear in the video. I removed the cover because it was contacting the body. The buggy body has a lot less clearance than the monster truck body.
@@Desauce512 in my admittedly limited experience it seems like the system is beefy enough to not need active cooling in this application but it was also 65° out when I was running it so that might not be the case at higher ambient temperatures.
Do you recommend getting an external BEC (I have no clue what that does btw) or just get the regular esc that comes internal with it? TIA :) or what should I go with?
@Desauce512 you definitely want to get the updated version that has the internal BEC if you can. The only reason that they included an external BEC was because the ESC didn't originally have an internal one. Having an external BEC, unless you need a bunch of extra power and are getting an external one for that reason, just adds weight wiring and complexity that you don't need to deal with.
I don't usually do links or anything like that because they're constantly changing and I don't want people to think I'm trying to sell them something but I do list out everything at the end of the video and you should be able to Google whatever you need. All of the upgrade parts are directly from horizon and you can find them under the optional parts on horizon's website for the car
@@DoRC I just seen you throw a bunch of bunch of parts at it in the beginning of the video and was curious as to what all the parts were I didn’t think it was all of them at the end of the video.
I'm honestly not sure. Space is pretty limited under the body. The micro X2 is already very thin and I'm honestly not aware of an ESC that would be much if any thinner.
Everything from the granite grom will fit the typhon Grom. The only difference in the parts that I used is that the Typhon Grom springs are a little bit shorter than the granite grom ones with the shocks are the same length
No they weren't out yet when this video was released. Those are the upgraded all metal differentials that unfortunately aren't available most of the time from horizon.
Hey friend! Can you please start adding links to all the parts you use in your videos? I really like your videos and want to upgrade my RCs the same way you show in the videos. Huge fan! You really should have more subscribers. Your videos are fun, helpful and entertaining. I recently purchased the Traxxas Slege, the newest one, and I've seen SO many videos being all OVER the place on upgrade parts. I'd really like to see a full on basher upgrade video for the sledge. Would you be interested in making a video on that?
I do have a full upgrade video on the sledge though it does have some things in it that aren't really necessary. I don't provide links for two reasons. The first one is that links are always going stale and it becomes a night where to manage them and the second one is that I don't want people to think I'm trying to sell them anything because I'm not.
@@DoRC I never thought about it that way, I just thought it'd be cool for the viewer (maybe it's just a me thing) to easily be able to replicate the results of the videos. Hope I didn't offend you.
I don't normally do links because they're always changing and I don't want people to think I'm selling something. That being said all of the upgrades can be found on horizon's website they are straight horizon parts and you can get the ESC and motor on Amazon. Thanks for watching if you can't find anything specific let me know!
I had most of these on hand but unfortunately horizon seems to be out of most of these parts a lot of the time. They do seem to come in stock from time to time and sometimes they have them listed on eBay as well.
I had these laying around. I ordered the upgrades when they first became available after the granite release. They never sent them to me so I ordered another set on eBay a while ago and then they finally sent these to me as well.
@@DoRC i know brotha! well, my diff is all ok cause my T-grom is completely stock but i got the brand new in box a spektrum 2 in 1 brush sistem combo and tomorrow i got the 2.0 losi pinion! so… will see how is going with stock diff
I don't normally do links because they are always changing and are frustrating to keep up with but if you go to the website for the car and go down to the optional parts button about halfway down it'll give you a list of all the parts
It was hitting the body. You could probably get away with out doing so but the body sitting right on top of the cover blocks air flow. I think as long as you secure the harness it shouldn't be a problem but no guarantees.
Do you have a link for that castle motor esc combo? I'm using the 40$ Amazon special king val 😂😂 I'd like to use this later down the raid on the vorteks or MOJAVE
I don't have a parts list but tell me specifically what you're looking for and I can tell you where I got it. Most of the upgrades came straight from horizon though they don't seem to have a lot of stuff in stock lately.
@@REDLS7 ah. They don't officially say the shocks are compatible so you just need to get the ones that are listed for the granite. They work just fine though you probably want to swap the springs over as they're a bit shorter
I don't post links for two reasons for the first one is that it becomes a logistical nightmare keeping up with a bunch of broken links cuz they're always changing. Second and more importantly I don't want people to think I'm trying to make money off of any of this because I'm not.
I think you're not quite right about screwing on the shocks caps wlile having the shocks fully compressed. At least not for all shocks. In my experience membranes often get sucked in if you do so. Mostly screwing on shock-caps when shocks are half compressed works good for me
On tuesdays nights at my local track we race minis on the carpet , its off road setup with jumps , i woukd do the exact same put a castle mamba micro in it and some pro line carpet tires , thing woukd rip
@@DoRC Was asking because I need the metal driveshaft kit for my grom it's been on backorder for months. Horizon Hobbies incompetence has been second to none. I talk to a lot of people in this hobby and not one of them is happy with HH.
@@DoRC Ya think ? I am so done with HH . They said that the metal axles were in stock a couple days for the Grom l ordered them and they never got shipped so I emailed them and they told me it was a mistake they are still on backorder. There costumer service and website stinks.
@@Schmidt3850 That sucks. I had a set of the upgraded differentials ordered from the very first day they had them on the website. I was able to order them on eBay from horizon get them delivered and my pre-order still hadn't shipped.
I have a curve set for speed running but it's still pretty darty. I think the centering of the servo isn't very precise so it always kinds of end up pointing One direction or another so you're constantly having to adjust for that. A better servo or a gyro would certainly help. Or maybe just a better driver :-)
It's possible but there's no inherent reason why they would. This is a completely different platform than a lot of the standard Amazon specials. They're really is no reason for there to be cross platform compatibility.
@DoRC i know. Its just so much fun on this power. A center diff or a viscous coupling would make these tiny trucks perfect. Do you plan on keeping the micro x2 in it? If so, i was very impressed by the castle 0808 4100kv. Not enough torque to break stuff but still alot of power. That was i was using before i switched to the 1007 6350kv
This video helped a lot because when I tried to take out the wheel hub I was just there scratching my head but now this video helped me and I managed to take it off thank you so much
I would agree with that. It's more stable and will have the same ground clearance as the granite. Basically it's a bigger version. The only downside is that it doesn't land on its wheels as often due to the flat nature of the top of it
