Option E - use a Ducati Panigale-type extender out the back. That's in keeping and allows you to route the electrics for a number plate light and, if needed, something to hang indicators off.
Most manufacturers extend it out from seat, further over the tyre, inorder to clear tyre, less angle required then. So another option could be A extended out a bit further.
I would go with option C honestly will be minimalystic and my opionion is it will suit bike most, and keep muck out of podfilters, i believe to clean plate is much easier than to clean filters
Option A on a sliding bracket under the seat pan so you can move in and out and a swivel mount on the end to adjust the angle of the plate as I believe the regs say "as vertical as possible" This way you can adjust to suit the test and then adjust to your liking after the test.
Sorry to say Option A ,as its the norm and more chance of passing the test .The number plate has to be the 9x7 as you don't have the reg until it pass.It would look good under the seat and the bike would look mean with out the plate flapping at the rear like an after thought but rules are rules.not to be bent or broken.what ever way you go will look great as always keep up the good work .
I know what you mean matey and that was the original plan. Things can of course be changed later once it has passed, but the main focus is getting it passed. Thank you matey 😁👍
I think that in front of the back wheel looks superb but I guess you need to check with the tester. If it was a smaller plate 8x6 or 7x5 then defo under the tail. The big plate can always get swapped out after the test. I had 2 plates for my RF900, one for mot and one to swap. Think it was 7x5. Never got grief from any police that I encountered.😂
Option A, under the rear light up at an angle, I think you’ll get less grief from plod than if it’s way under the seat halfway down the bike, that’s my two pennies worth! 👍🏻
Its a legal requirement that you should display your number plate on the back of your motorbike. I presume that means the end of the body work . But they do look cool under the seat 👍
Option A is imo the better option moved the number plate from rear huger to under seat on the mvagusta dragster I had and looked so much better there a company in OZ called new rage cycles they do a tail tidy bracket for mv dragsters with strip led indicators realy clean look sure you could nick some ideas from
I had a little bit of grief with my under seat plate from the plod on my GSXR 7/11 So I went for option A in the end, but then I went with a smaller 5x7 plate.. It was ok in the normal position not really noticeable from the side and of course you can check the suspension travel when fitted ... Cheers 👍😁
In order of preference: A, D, C (eventual owner might opt to ride with a show plate). I'm with you on the side mount, not right for this style of bike. Keep up the excellent work dude.
At an angle under the seat at the back. I lost mine into the tyre a couple of times before I realised that the plate was flapping at the same time the wheel was rising. Making stiffened triangulated brackets solved it. Until I’d fixed that I was planning to use an off-road type flexible plate. I noticed that BMW Off-road training school use these. They look like standard plates but aren’t going to get sucked in and shattered by a brush with the back tyre.
doing a tail dragger on my Suzuki, but it's more of a cafe style, doesn't need to look as angry as your asbo xD Doing it with a pair of hollow tubes so I can run the wires hidden inside them as well (where I live the plate needs to be lit up)
Regarding plate, should of drop it off the paddock stand first. Also I believe its the size of the letters now. Got to be option A and I think when off stand you'll have more of an angle. Don't forget the light and £1 reflector. On S1000r I use a 8x6 now as a smaller just looks to inviting to be stopped. I wished we could use option B but I reckon even if you got it thru the test, you get stopped real quick by plod.
Really it needs to be on the floor and not the bench as well... I'm going to mock up some options, have the bike on the floor and.just see what they look like I think before making the final version 😁👍
Option 3 all day long, a bugger to keep clean no doubt, but i'm guessing ASBO will become someones summertime spinner so maybe not such an issue? Coming along nicely Q.
i would go with the under the back light, you need to put a light to it yet,, not under by the shock thats asking for a fail on SVA by time get some weight on seat you wont see enough so option A or D
Option C and D for me. Both have advantages. C would keep the best part of the muck away from the shock and filters, but the constant blast from rad grime would wear the number playe away. Admittedly, it's more in keeping with the azbo nickname. D the tail dragger would, as you said, if you included a funky chain guard would also stop crap. But it should stop a decent amount hitting the shock, filters, chain lube up your back, etc. Also, isn't there something about positioning indicators for the MSV. DAFT QUESTION, i always thought that if you had the frame number, then the bike would still have a V5 and its original identity no matter how you modified the frame. You did use the original headstock, didn't you ...
Thanks for chipping in matey. I think I may end up making something for the test and something else for afterwards 🤣😂 There is a criteria for the indicators regarding spacing and plan was to have them on the numberplate mount as well 😁👍
What about under the rear light but on cool little adjustable stand offs that you make to mimic the yokes ot the rear sets. Then it could be test friendly and fully flipped up asbo style easily. The over the tyre ones can look cool, but they have to be fairly high up to not self destruct. And then they look shite. Side plates are for bobbers and some of the more out there rat fighters, I think there should be a symmetry sort of when you look at a cafe racer dead on from a front or rear angle. Also I recently failed an mot for no white rear number plate light and no reflector.
For me I think D is your best option for getting through the MVSA with the least hassle. (5) This paragraph requires the plate to be fixed- (a)vertically or, where that is not reasonably practicable, in a position as close to the vertical as is reasonably practicable, and (b)in such a position that in normal daylight the characters of the registration mark are easily distinguishable from every part of a relevant area having the diagonal length specified in paragraph (6).
Hmm option A looks the best. Have you considered looking at how the latest crop of sport bike reg holders look as they all seem to extend out further away from the bike so no issues with the plate hitting the wheel?
Option A mounted vertical with linkage to swingarm, tilts more as suspension moves. How about mounting side stand inside the frame, so when up, its hidden
Not sure about where to put it - however I am not sure that the rear tyre can be sticking out as the last thing if that makes sense, you might need to check the reg's. I think that is why some of these bikes have the wrap around the back of the tyre
The MSVA manual is a bit vague... It just says it has to be rearward facing in the rear most practicable place. The tyre is allowed to be the last thing down the road matey 👍
In the netherlands (where the bike will end up) its a legal requirement that the numberplate is at the back. I asume it is the same in the rest of europe. I would take option a after mot you can place a smaller plate and bend it a bit. (No more than 45 degrees to stay legal)
under the red light angled so that IF the wheel clobbers it it just bends up ,,, or sell it and with the proceeds ( from selling the number plate) and buy an Enfield
0ption A for me if you stick it out near the rear tyre you might as well built a BMW or ] custom. bike...also as soon as it got a mot stick a smaller 6x4 on
C or D for me. C probably more preference to hide away more. Are you not planning on a rear mud guard or will this not be a bike for riding in the rain lol.
Option C fits the cleanness of the bike the most, is it legal though? It would have a light and it would be readable, so who knows. It would keep the rear end very light in keeping with how you cleaned up around the engine...
Option A. Tail draggers and side mounts are shite and way back under the seat will, as you said get covered in road film. Here you can get al the numbers and letters in one line, smaller font than cars too. What can you get there that's smaller?
They're dead fussy here about the number plate size and it HAS to be 9x7 for the test unfortunately... It will get swapped out for a smaller one I'm sure, but it has to get through the test first matey 😁👍
Just a comment for side stand switch, I was thinking maybe a rear brake light switch. My Fazer has one that is make when not in operation, according to the Haynes manual.
Something like that would work for sure. You can tell the m unit to work on the make or break state, so no it only needs to be a momentary switch of some sort. Thank you matey 👍😁
You have yourself one hell of a quandry my RU-vid friend. In my not so humble opinion, the real problem is that Oh So Ugly British number plate. ☹But that is a problem only the High & the Mighty can solve. 😇 As for me, I think Option Z is the answer. While it would require a revamp of the rear light, maybe you should think about using the rear 'upturn' on the rear of the seat for the number plate.
A i think you could machine something to hold the plate but rather than snug it up to the body make a feature out of the plate holder than just a bracket say? maybe.just another place on the bike you can show your work.
Check the size of your number plate as legally there's no standard size. The only requirement is spacing 11mm border 10mm between letters and numbers and 13mm between upper line and lower. I recently purchased one from 'JDM plates' and the plate because it has a 1 in it ended up 194mm x 164mm with the required BSau145e number and the manufacturer name and postcode. If yours doesn't it could be 228mm x 164mm which could help with placement being much smaller and also it comes with a business size card authenticating legality.
The minimum size of a UK number plate depends on the number of characters in the registration mark, and what characters they are. As far as the location of the plate is concerned, anywhere other than option A always looks terrible.
Anybody who says side deserves a sound thrashing horsewhipped.😀 The rear on a extended bracket nearly as bad. Under the light isn't too bad. I don't reckon whoever has the bike will stick to keeping that size plate anyway. Plus if you have it there you can incorporate the indicators into the bracket, unless you have a different plan for siting those. I like the option of by the rear shock but think any stroppy copper might not agree n' possibly not MOT tester either. Although you say it can be seen from the rear can the whole plate be seen when the wheel is moving up n' down on the road by any plod following?
It's a tough one init... I think I'm going with normal placement which is what I planned originally. I might mock up an extended version just to see what it looks like, but indicators would be on the number plate mount as well 😁👍
Option A or D, If it needs a specific angle on option A to get it past it's test then a simple one bolt hinge type fixing so you can change the angle to suit the test then a two second adjustment to change the angle to a more aesthetically pleasing angle, but I would mock up option d to see what it looks like as I do like that look and if some twat bumps into the back of the bike it might afford enough protection to stop the back wheel getting chewed under a bumper.
I've checked the MSVA manual and there's no angle given, just that it has to be at the rear most practicable point of the bike and visible from the rear. I might mock up a D option just out of curiosity actually....👍
I looked at the MOT inspection manual, 'C' may not be acceptable - "Rear registration plates fitted to motorcycles manufactured on or after 1 January 1980 must: • have black characters on a yellow background; • be fitted vertically, or as close to vertical as is reasonably practicable; • be mounted towards the rear of the motorcycle" - I like the Panigale idea, or 'D' hugger. 🤔 Yes will need to be illuminated, and yes will need a separate reflector if the tail light does not include it. Don't think you can just stick one onto the number plate.
@@QuickBikes Something else occurred to me today, you only need the 9 x 7" plate for the test, afterwards you could change to a smaller one? Then it's only a case of fitting the 9x7 somewhere for the test, and the smaller one where it'll be more attractive. Just a thought. 😊
