I never played WoW, so I tried all of them (a lot) 

No, but I keep hearing about this Saurfang guy, but I can't find him. So I have a question. where Varok

After literally years, at points three accounts all members with CC, I've cancelled. Fck Gagex. Xbox ultimate game pass is like a couple dollars more than a single RS account. The value I'm getting from it is crazy... Or, it's normal and Gagex set our expectations so low that now having access to all these games is like being a kid in a candy store. Anyone want to buy my accounts? Main, 1900+ total, with 8x99s, base 70s. Void Pure, 200+ QP, 60a, 85s, 98range, 95 mage Thanks for all the content over the years, my man. I'll still be here, watching =]

jaina got arrested for letting her dad die for being racist. thats the litteral lore

If you're going to try any other MMO then please play Elder Scrolls Online. It's a little more like RuneScape in how the skill trees work and how open it is. It also has a great leveling up experience with amazing quests and an end game with good progression

why runescape and not everquest 1 did you know about everquest at that time?

Naw, I just only played wow and paid with my $20/mo allowance. I convinced my mom to let me be homeschooled for all of middle school so I could play WoW all fucking day. I let my dad die on the couch and told the raid I was in when I was 11, I said something like "the ambulance is here and I'm not going to let the dog out of my room because he is freaking out, I want some loot". Then I had a SS check for the next 7 years and some real spending cash. No more screaming in the morning, no one making me go outside so he could lock himself in the computer room and jack off for 8 hours and I get free money was a no-brainer. I really feel for the neglected trashbabies growing up with what we have now, I'm thankful gacha wasn't in every single fucking game back then.

Nah we wasnt allowed shit else and if we ever asked for anything we got reminded about that 15 dollars

Not when u have three brothers sharing one account.. still poor.

childhood trauma coming out. I feel ya@@greghaunch1154

yea

stoked that you got to check it out :D

Yo, Platinum WoW, never thought i would see him here

Agree. I haven’t felt like this since 2005.

I love seeing Platinum in the wild

😂@@popcandy44

Exactly, lots of people complain about this for some reason and say they just want to be an adventurer but canonically your character has been around for years and done all these epic 5hibgs so of cpurse the big wigs will know who you are and treat you like that

Thought that Champion became the norm after BFA because you become the Champion of the Azeroth, so as the champion of the planet, everyone calls u so

@@quinnsacramento3148 Trial of the Champion was to become champions of your race, which fed into Trial of the Crusader to become champions of your faction. The whole point of the patch was to see who would lead the charge against the Lich King. In fact, the last line of RP dialogue in Icecrown Citadel before you fight the Lich King is "So be it. Champions attack!" From Tirion Fordring before he gets frozen and combat begins. It's possible Champion may have been used earlier than ToTC as a referential word, but this was when the player actually earned the title of "Champion" lore-wise.

It still doesn't make sense for your new characters to be the recruit and right after that all those fancy things. Of course you're some kind of champion after bringing sargeras to fall. And then right after that you go to the dragon isles and rescue some things and pets abducted by murlocs. You can try to make the argument you have, but there is no coherence from any perspective.

​@@JJJBunney001 everyone can't be a hero, then there are no heroes, just blue collar workers

Mhm

This is exactly why I stopped playing WoW. I still miss it, but it got too much. I did the quest exactly how you described. I loved exploring and gathering fame for every area, reading and completing every single quest, and finding a random quest giver on top of a mountain I decided to run up it and getting a cool quest for a weapon. Getting to lvl 60 on Classic was so rewarding, and my WoW friends celebrated the moment with me. It's not like that anymore. Good memories.

It's fair to a degree. He's not wrong in his assessment, that all felt pretty accurate, but it felt like a "fair" assessment of a Superhero movie by a movie critic that does not care for action. World of Warcraft is not built for questers. You can be a quester and find enjoyment, maybe, but WoW's clear focus is end game. And the vast majority of players who have been playing for the past 20 years are max level players. So when he got to the spot where he reached Level 80 in Wrath and found out that end game was not for him, that told me this game is not built for him, so the rest of the review would be negative. Would be like if I reviewed the absolute best / fan favorite 1st person shooter. My review would crap all over the game, because I don't find that game content enjoyable. For me, an 18 year WoW player, WoW is about raiding with friends, and giving me mindless stuff to do when I'm bored. I'm one of the folks who agree that WoW doesn't start until end game. That's when I schedule time each week with anywhere from 4 to 24 friends to run through group content. We aren't super good, so the content is always challenging. We eventually improve & progress and enjoy each other company. So when I see a video like this I feel like I could have helped the reviewer by explaining what WoW is before he got started, because he was under the mistaken impression that it was about questing.

​@@RageDaug The problem with putting all of your content at the end game is that it ends up effectively punishing new players for the crime of not playing the game for 20 years. The quality of the early to mid game content these types of MMORPGs is typically low and tedious. It feels like the devs don't want you to be there, so they try to fast track you through it. However, for a new player, this is their first impression of the game, and first impressions are vital in retaining players. Why should I, as a new player, dedicate a significant amount of time and money to get through the early to mid game, only on the promise that there's this supposedly amazing "end game", when all I'm seeing is boring, low quality crap? What you end up with is a game that only exists to serve an existing playerbase that will only shrink over time as players lives and tastes change. This leads to the game studios adding new monetization methods (MTX, selling gold, battlepasses) to pay for upkeep and maintain growth for investors to make up for the dwindling subscription base. If the devs don't want to put in the effort to make a fun and engaging early to mid game, why have an early to mid game to begin with? Why not just start people at endgame with a short tutorial. It certainly doesn't take weeks to teach a player how to move and press buttons. Why force new players to trudge through garbage content all alone (in a Massive Multiplayer Online game) so they can eventually meet up with the veterans who probably don't want to play with noobs anyways? Why do I have to suffer through all that nonsense just to figure out if I actually want to play the "real" game. I've tried a bunch of different MMORPGs in the last 20 years. Last one I tried was Lost Ark. The leveling experience in that game was: talk to NPC, who says to go do something (kill 10 of x, pick up one rock and put it down, talk to NPC six feet away) then you talk to the NPC again and get a wall of plot text, some pocket change, and some gear that will be useless in about 3 minutes. You're not challenged in any way. You just stare mindlessly and talk to the next NPC, FOR 20-30 HOURS PER CHARACTER. The only part of the early to mid game I liked was this really well done castle siege story event. Had voice-acting, a story, boss fights, and awesome set-pieces. Not challenging in any way of course. There also were a few story dungeons that were kind of cool, but you can't take time to enjoy them because you get flamed by other players trying to blast through it to get to "end game" as fast as possible. Then you get to "end game" and it's just grind this dungeon to upgrade your gear number so you can do this other dungeon to further make your gear number go up, and so on. I don't know where to begin with the insanely predatory MTX. Honestly, not much different from every other MMORPG I've tried, which is at least 15 that I can recall.

@@rawwrrob9395 Sorry that was too much for me to read, so I just noted the beginning part. I apologize if I completely miss your point. You aren't wrong that new players are punished, but the question is "who is your customer". Raiders and Questers tend to be different players. IMO, Questers move game to game. They quest and get to max level, feel the beat the game, and they move on to their next game. End-Game content is where player retention is because the game never ends. Blizzard is doing everything they can to attract new players, as they should, but it's an uphill battle as they don't want to drive away their raider base in the process.

i can always count on you to be my 4th most supportive friend ❤

Beautiful

I will watch the whole video Jimbo. For the culture!

42 minutes in the current climate of RU-vid is only slightly way too long

I want my fury and whip back mofo

by far the best bit lol

That party was lit

got me teary eye'd laughing

Goldshire inn on an RP server is a mysterious place.

ist far too real, it made me feel ashamed of myself

yeah, they screwed the scaling badly when they implemented it. Should've just added a toggle option to use the existing Timewalking mechanic to scale you down to the "max" level of a zone, similar to how GW2 does things. You keep all your stuff and keep getting rewards for your true level, but can experience the zones at a level where they still have some challenge but not to the point of being grindy and tedious. I literally stopped making alts after they implemented the scaling because even with Hierlooms, it felt absolutely awful to do anything. And pretty much abandoned retail the moment classic came out. And then abandoned it when they started fucking shit up that shouldn't have been messed with. And then removed every blizzard property from my PC and consider them a dead company now.

That was literally me during my first two years of uni. Like, exactly. Even the bouncing on heels bit.

that shit had me DYING lmao

i cant lie that elf with the red eyes right at the end was kinda bad and yes i do feel ashamed of that

@@gibble7863 Considering what some people are into nowadays and how insane they are about it, I'd say there's no need to be ashamed of thinking a character is kinda hot

@@midasvijfwinkel6116 yea there is though. a lot of people drunk drive every day it doesnt make it normal lol

The very Avant garde "Man with sword"

Guild Wars 2. Can play the entire game in a fun way, just as you describe, level barely evens matter. Every zone is a sandbox playground and is revelant.

Play hardcore, its the best version of wow atm.

@@bmw9616 I never played WoW, but Ive played an absolute assload of runescape and elder scrolls online. Runescape admittedly is more of a nostalga hit I get addicted to once every 6 months and no life. ESO was something that after I found PvP, that nothing else was fun anymore, still the best PvP ive played in any game, although it has flaws, which is why I quit, along with the fact that PvP ruined PvE for me and I hated having to farm near gear every patch just to be able to kick ass in PvP. Sell me on GW2 if you could please, Ive always had my eye on it (like WoW)

@@Th3Chuzzl3r I enjoyed eso pvp for a bit, until it got sweaty. Then I noticed delays in wep swaps, ability lag, ect. I also didn't like unkillable builds. But I had fun during my time. Gw2 combat is fluid and lag free. Never once have I got ability delay. It also has a roll dodge mechanic like eso. Structured pvp doesn't use your gear stats, so you can pvp right away on any new class/spec you want to try. Eso felt beautiful but empty to me. If I wanted to hang out in vvardenfell and play around, I'm just wasting my time in eso. Every zone in gw2 you can hang out in and make profit, do world events, do meta bosses, do map completion, do achievements, find collectibles, grind legendary gear. Anyway you want to play, will be fine. Horizontal progression. Once you get your gear you'll never have to farm it again.

Play ffxiv

Same thing happened to me when I played. I got one character to max level in mists of pandaria. I hit the account cap for alternates.

Leveling all my ALTS was great fun for me, as I enjoyed knowing how the Quests worked, and powering through them with new my new characters abilities!

You dirty Alliance

orgrimmar intro better

@@Bluezenthro Definitely not.

@@weisshxc They're both amazing lets be honest here.

@@jakecarroll5 At the end of the day World of Warcraft is amazing so I agree, but I am a diehard Alliance player.

Seriously he experienced basically the same emotions I did walking into Stormwind when I was 11 or something and I still remember it

What happens in Goldshire, stays in Goldshire.

his choice of music is epic@@edhu9

Yea, that party scene was the best Goldshire bit I've seen hahah. well done!

🤣 can relate

Needs to be a RU-vid short lol

Really? That was a pretty well known thing.

That's why once all my mates and I went to uni we played both at the same time

That was on top of a $60 box for the game itself. No way it was happening.

That also applies to computers of the time. A lot of us, myself included only had computers with really old graphics cards that our parents weren’t willing to upgrade, so the software rendered RuneScape had to do.

yeah i guess it was because my brother was the one who first got the account so i never had to ask for the money@@taxesrtheft

That is a sweet memory with your dad❤

Completely agree, the other side of that coin is watching those friends disappear over time to new adventures in new games, while you still want to WoW xD I had the best time with a bunch of co-workers and friends in cata, we formed a guild and started fresh together, and we were just getting raid ready for Firelands, we had a great time for Firelands and Dragonsoul, then everyone slowly called it quits ahead of MoP as most werent feeling the theme/other games popped up for them. That guild ended up becoming a bank for my character haha. I loved those highs, but was sad to see it end.

Sad to hear that happen hope you’re doing better today 🎉❤😊

@@Mythrended Man they missed out. Mists of Pandaria was really good. There only thing you could complain about mists was them giving you too much to do. Every time I'd go on the forums people be like there is too much fucking dailies.... Warlords of Draenor hits those forums into.. "Where are the dailies" "Why is there nothing to do in the world after hitting max" "where is the reputation grind". Blizzard seems to listen, but when they do listen. They go to far one way. I think that's why they've given up after Warlords and said fuck ya'll. Every Expansion after Warlords has been "Here is our new gimmick / system grind" Oh you don't like our "vision" too bad... come back at the end of the expansion and we'll make it less annoying.

What's the song playing during the party? :D

@@DChris3 NIGHTCAP - You've Got the Best of Me

Do people actually party in retail??

It’s more like Goldshire ERP, which is a more accurate way of describe it. Best parties are in FF14

@@Giggles4692 nobody gives af about ff14

@@licit1337It’s literally the most played MMO in the world lol. It stole the title from WoW a couple years ago and is still growing.

@@EXP_Jenova iirc the numbers they gave out was accounts and trial accounts made but corpo simps have a tenuous relationship with reality so it morphed into "omg most played game"

I died of laughter at the final scene!

same XD@@csx296

What was the song playing in the party, please? :D

@@DChris3 NIGHTCAP - You've Got the Best of Me

Yea Goldshire, only part about WoW that never changes.

thats exactly the way these mmo friendships start and last forever :D

Experiences like this is why the new SoD and the old Classic is THE BEST way to play WoW.

The struggle is what makes Classic so good. You team up together to survive a tough world. Easy games are just...boring and nobody talks because nobody has to.

Of course the first run of WoW had players who had no clue, no idea what to do, how to do it, where to go, or where you would eventually end up. It was at a time before before WowHead or other information databases. Google barely got you to where you had to go. You just had to play the game, read the quests, team up and communicate with the other players in the game to reach new heights. That is something which can not be emulated by just re-releasing it. To this day I still know all the names of all the NPC's you had to talk to just to see if they did or did not have a quest or piece of relevant information for you (which you then had to repeat every time you leveled up even once). There was a communal sense of the playerbase which I have never experienced since. Every new (m-)multiplayer game now starts out (and ends) with everyone being toxic immediately.

Did you kiss too?

until the redesigns and updated animations happend

I started with Mists of pandaria and damn was it a blast. every new level and every new skill every new zone and every new dungeon felt so rewarding.

Totally agree! When you cross to the other faction’s continent for the first time, it’s such a cool feeling. Also, I will never forget the moment I first walked up to the Outland portal. So epic!

@@makytondr8607 So true, I've experienced The Burning Crusade at the final patches back then, of course being just kids played a big role, a world where you could do pretty much anything, more as a role playing than hardcore grinding, and the people playing were just mostly chilling, most people were friendly, everybody helped, guilds based around good times and story experience as well. Also a times when many people were playing on unofficial servers lol, that was probably the best times, these half bugged fun servers were so great as people who loved Warcraft series could easily play while we have no money to pay subscription for retail. I remember vividly these factions fights over low level dungeons haha or quests, both sides told their guild and people stopped doing their think and came to take a fight, nobody was mad to spend time doing some stupid fun rather than grind profession etc. What a one time in life experience!

You usually get called by name in Retail as well. However since there is a lot of voice acting in Retail, it is usually substituted as "Champion" in the voice acting instead of the character name (even though in text it is your name).

@@luksp96bingo

Even up to 60 in classic you are often referred to as your class. Ex "Thank you brave Paladin for your effort"

I distinctly remember thinking at the end of WotLK (when it was retail), "I wonder if we'll ever be higher than just some adventurer" even though we had just been a major force in killing off the Lich King. I want to say your player character was never referred to as champion until we were literally an emissary role (aka a champion of our faction, acting as representative) during introductions to alternate timeline factions in WoD. Then, further, "hero" wasn't something we were referred to as until Legion's class hall campaign in which you've genuinely become the pinnacle of your class (canonically) and directly had a hand in saving the world from the Legion. By the points that each of those happened (especially if you'd been playing each storyline on release), it genuinely felt like you'd earned it after like 10-15 years of effort. It's a shame it's so jarringly shoved on you with how the story is presented in retail.. I could be incorrect about when Champion started, but I'm pretty confident it wasn't before late WotLK (I can't totally remember if they started it in Argent Tournament, but if not I think it was WoD).

@@Alellion "some adveturer", like bro we champions of your fking tournament of champions wtf

go watch general sam, you wont regret it. This guy is just copying him

also i think there is some stuff regarding working with some of the horde after the the bombing of Theramore which was a Kul tiris settlement?

Oh man, if this guy likes story in MMOs and hasn't played FFXIV, that's criminal.

same, and i think that most SoD players are feeling the same way

I agree, I think they're moving in the right direction with it. It's definitely the most fun I've had since classic 2019 & before then Nostalrius was even better. Of course the best times were when we didn't have access to all the ways to play optimally, in the OG days of the game but it's hard to compare 2004-2010 to classic. I will say I get bored with SoD fairly quick. Again I think they're moving in the right direction & it has/had(phase 1) fun new twists & things to do BUT I feel like WoW is just not keeping up with the times. It has been one of my favorite games throughout my whole life but I think I'm actually feeling pretty done with it even though I do give new content like SoD a fair try. I had a weeks worth of gameplay on one character in phase 1 after all... Sorry just rambling lol

@@1voJan Are you a sod player?

@@TheGoobMeista yup, maining a rogue in phase 2

Headed to Gnome in 3 hours for the first time!

Pride of The Alliance runs in our veins

Play World of Warcraft! We've got: -Fighting wolves! -Goldshire -Planet stabbing titans -Rescuing hippos from being rotated without their consent! _-And more!_

shit brings a tear to my eye and im a grown man

Hearing that and the Elwynn Forest OST in the beginning is sending chills all throughout my body. Welp, time to return to WoW for the 5th time...

Yep, I have gone back to wow so many times. And probably will again. Hard to find the time now that I have to be an adult.

I've tried getting into OSRS and it just too overwhelming from the get go. And slow af to get into any fun.

I’ve maxed my account on OSRS and was thinking of switching to WoW but there’s so much to do that I’m confused lol I want to roll a Belf warlock for old times sake not sure on classic or retail though.

Come check out FFXIV like osrs kinda you can level all the classes on one character, including crafters and gatherers. Want to be big unkillable meat shield Warrior? equipt an axe, Wanna be zippy rouge with some magic? Equipt some daggers and be a ninja.

Yeah, the Classic WoW team has been hitting it out of the park recently, they've shown they have a fundamental understanding about what makes oldschool WoW good. I think we're in good hands.

@@logan62097 agreed. One of the most interesting talking points with the obvious OSRS comparisons is if polling should exist in a theoretical Classic Plus. I think people who don't play OSRS aren't aware of the various debates that have gone on within the community and the shift in the player-dev relationship over time. I trust the Classic team.

I will only agree that we are in good hands if they have the common sense to separate team queue and solo/duo/trio queue into two separate games. No team wants to waste time destroying solo or duo queue players, and vice versa

@@logan62097 Really? I don't like being the one to bring stuff down, but I think the team has no idea what they are doing and is 100% understaffed. You can see how they just put a bunch of spells that already exists in other expansions that goes in the opposite direction of what classic design is. For example: priests having penance, a spell with almost no mana cost that heals a shit ton and has a channeling cast with its first healing burst being instant, while healing spells in classic were all about having to wait 3 seconds to waste all your mana to heal. It's also clear they don't really play the classes they are trying to develop. They bandaid things like balance druids weakness with instant cast spells that deal 60% of their dps because they can't be arsed to think of another way to make the spec viable. I wish I could see those good hands too, but all the fun I've had in SoD was just by doing shenanigans with friends besides all that mess they created.

RuneScape is a 2nd monitor game

I did that a couple times. It get's exhausting trying to become the best geared when you don't have a guild. I raided during Warlords and managed crawl my way into mythic raids without a guild on a dead server by using raid listings and filling in roles for guilds. I eventually got 12/13 mythic on my shadow priest & eventually got recruited into their guild. I was always last to receive any upgrades due to their veterans getting first dibs. I eventually got sick of showing up to long raids nights for months & not to get any loot to progress my character while being expected to hit a certain dps mark without similar gear other casters had. I was pulling like 90k dps in Heroic gear on mythic archimonde, but they wanted 100k from me and had me sit outside of the raid. Add that to not getting any gear for a couple months straight. I told the gm that I don't want to hold the guild back from progressing, & appreciated the opportunity, but I'm also not gonna sit there every week without any progression towards my character while being expected to pull unrealistic numbers without the proper gear required to pull those numbers. They also used one of those "guild raid currency" addons. So unless you've been raiding for awhile you weren't getting shit. These days I have no desire doing an interview, filling out a raid resume, just to get a spot in a raid team.

@@b4rs629 bro lol it sounds like a job not gaming why would you do this to yourself i personally play sod and its very chill can complete all content in pugs no damage meters etc most people dont care.

@@Eskoxo We'll I moved on to other games after that experience between 2016 without a guild. WoW kind of ruined a lot other games for me. I was enjoying Black Dessert online for awhile cuz' it didn't force you to quest. I now look for games that offer 1. Replay value 2. Chill 3. I can quit & come back without feeling I missed out on something awesome 4. Can't remind me of WoW or Diablo 4 progression. The games I play today are satisfactory, palworld, cyberpunk 2077, & Age of Empires, simcity, sims 4, & hogwarts legacy, Advanced Wars 1+2 reboot camp.

the truth is the exact opposite, no one cares about 'muh BIS', its about the friends and the memories that you make. the more you obsess about muh parse, the less likely people will want to be friends with you

speed running is what makes it tedious. There is a saying its not about the endgoal but about the journey. In wow vanilla we had half a year fun and almost noone was raiding :)

oh palease, in classic, there are two ways instead of one, so get out of here with that false-openness that doesn't actually exist.

Difference is being a kid and trying to get your parents to pay for it straight up with a credit card, always triggers the sus alarms because parents back then didn't understand why a kid needs a reoccurring subscription to play a videogame.

Same here.

Same numbers for me 😁

Yep, sounds like a fake video to me.

@@josedavidmunozmartinez4722?

@@josedavidmunozmartinez4722I personally would say that I only really started WoW a few months ago, but my account is 12 years old because I’ve tried starting a few times and never played longer than 30 minutes. When I came back, my previous characters didn’t exist but I was still able to choose the racial zone or exile’s reach. So maybe not fake but I wouldn’t be surprised if he made a character previously and forgot about it, OR he exaggerated a bit

well they change that in a patch before. But i sincerely dont believe a few things in the video, it seems too cliche with the problems from the comunity.

@@danielantonioginartemilane1658 Well he was playing the same game

Literally all of his complaints are what FFXIV does right. Except kind of the hero thing, but even every expac the locals don't know you to be a hero yet. And there are actually people!

@@Tedub14 i usually hate the whole chosen one thing but the warrior of light in ff14 actually does it well

Was looking for this comment, as someone who just finally caught up on the msq... Man all these complaints are handled so well in it.

​@@Tedub14 except FFXIV looks horrible visually and the combat is terrible:(

​@@immagonko4261you didnt make it out of ARR huh

mmos taught me that not everyone is a good person, flashback to me crying cuz I got scammed out of a dragon longsword lolol

Mmos taught me English.

tbh skyrim and WoW taught me how to read lmaoo

i learned from almost 20 years of WoW All People are egoists who dont care about nuffing except their own benefit

I learned from MMORPGs that all humans are NPCs except me. I'm the only real person. You don't even exist haha! 🌈 ​@@korthosen949

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS THANK YOU

GOAT.

Legend!

Agreed Wow is like the Sims for me I'll no life it for a little bit then never touch it again for years

You press 3 buttons on classic wow lol

@@tyhyhh 3 buttons more than I press in osrs for a whole year.

@@KingCaridin😂😂

​@@tyhyhhEven if you play rs3 that has abilities you don't even need to click them. Just put them on the bar in a good order.

Season of discovery is really good. It maintains the classic design but has new content alongside the original classic WoW content. Very cool. You also can't buy gold in it. They haven't messed it up like retail, so you have a new option if you ever feel like playing again, but if you never touched it again I can't blame you either. It's such a fun experience that you can lose track of how much time you've played it instead of other games or hobbies.

For a new player it's still really confusing. Most of WoW is filled with characters no one heard of before and is expected to understand what is going on.

I feel like, when the legal issues came out and insiders started saying that devs who controlled game design wanted to be treated like superheroes of videogame design, that this got projected onto the player. I realize players have occasionally done great stuff, but the fact that they keep giving us janitorial tasks makes it a bad fit.

what video i want to watch D:

​@@tricksyhobbit5929 the channel isn't letting me link the RU-vid page

@@tricksyhobbit5929 same

leveling USED to be something id do for fun in retail, but now it feels like a choice between 2 meaningless journeys: the journey to the cash shop for a boost, or the journey through chromie time to 70

In fairness, it's hard to really do this right at all. They both have their upsides and downsides. Before Chromie, you did experience everything chronologically. But the problem was that... you experienced everything. That means leveling takes a lot longer. I am a big fan of the leveling experience in WoW (at least in Dragonflight with its amazing talent tree system), and the leveling experience is the only part of the game that everyone must experience. But the downside here is that it means you have to do everything. That's bad for a game that heavily encourages making alts. It makes the leveling process a lot slower without providing the unique experience of leveling that Classic BC or WotLK does. With Chromie, namely Dragonflight, being able to experience what you want is great. It's a downside because you can really only do like 2 areas of an expansion before being knocked out of it to do Dragonflight. That's a bummer for people that want to experience these things and must either experience them without timewalking active (which feels bad) or they need to make 2-3 characters per expansion. Which is... a lot of characters. Neither is the right way to do it, imo. I think that if the leveling experience was like... around half as fast, then Chromie w/ Dragonflight would be perfect because you could do an entire expansion on the way to 60 more than likely.

Personally levelling got super boring once you did it enough. I agree that it’s fun the first, second, third time but after that I was just kinda put off doing the same stuff. In the end I just wanted to get a character up so I could test myself in mythic plus and raid.

What's that? Playing the game isn't interesting or rewarding early so you'd like to pay money so you can play less game? Step right up, Blizzard has you covered, just give em some money and you can skip content that may or may not have been purposefully designed to make you more likely to pay to skip leveling. "Man, I love playing this game so much that I paid to get 3 alts to max level." isn't the endorsement you think it is.

problem is that for 90% of the playerbase they have lvled so much in retail that they know a lot of the quests like they rehearsed for an exam and its just boring to do then.