I paid people on Fiverr to make my PC parts list 

You were like: "You guys are getting paid, for this?"

@@bojke91 LMAO yep

SAMEE!!!

I plan to do this for my friends in the near future. I will definitely charge them

FIVERR TIME

Yep, storage is always super easy to upgrade

@@destryjones7740 and they are also getting very cheaper day by day. So it's worth waiting just a little bit.

@@destryjones7740 Kylie mentioned that he wants to stream. Most streamers play a single game everyday, so 500GB is enough for streaming. But he could have added $30 and chosen the 1TB SSD like the first parts list. But Kylie pressed on that he can't go over the budget.

No kidding, the 2nd list addresses the two primary problems he had with the 1st list, and by cutting the most easily up-gradable part down the road. Adding a second drive in 6-months when you've installed too many games is cheap and easy and doesn't throw away or waste any investment you already have in the build. Missed the mark here Kyle. 2nd list best list.

Definitely deserved the win no question. 3600 MHz and an XT. Loses to an inferior system with 500 Gb extra storage? Please..

Yeah I was just about to comment this. I think they should have skimped on the case, gone down to a matrexx55

Honestly I think the second one was better. You can always add another drive down the road.

@@C_Sephiroth he also said that he would be able to change it so idk who to blame

@@bonxd id blame Kyle he is picky about everything

@@yeboidustin8725 tru, but that’s what’s funny

also you probably have some hard drive or ssd from your previous system, if you just want it to store photos ore similar, that's gonna be enough until you save up enough money for a new, better storage card

Hahaha... Wish it were true!

@@pratyushjayachandran He paid for the list. Don't know if any are trolls. Wouldn't surprise me if a couple were and will upload their experience to YT. LOL

😂🤣😂🤣

Isn't that a scam and a crime that can put you on prison? Ik it's a joke, so if you were gonna woooosh me stfu

@@Frisher1 r/.........

Nakna_ankaN true... I have like 100+ games but play and uninstall only kept gta 5 , fotnite and apex .... Else just come and go

Plus you can keep adding drives. Whereas buying a one step worse gpu, you're stuck with that gpu, you can add extra power to it. Storage is the one thing you can go minimum on at first.

@@ge2719 installing a new GPU isn't any harder than a new hard drive

@@EMETRL It's a lot more expensive though unless you can sell the old card to try and get your money back.

It's a bigger loss than buying a new HDD, and besides, you can still run your old SSD/HDD with the new one. Whereas you would be forced to sell your GPU and be at a loss or you will have a slightly slower GPU sitting around. The 2nd build was better, I'm living off a 120gb SSD and manage. Just have Windows, Steam, Origin, etc installed on there but allocate the games a different drive. FPS over loading times.

That just seems like b with extra steps

@@anand.kesavan well yeah just like C+=B--

3:20 - you stated that this build is for a computer n00b... would a n00b know how to go into the motherboard's BIOS to access the higher speed RAM timings?

@@mituaktar8893 wtf

+ - = -

So true! My thoughts exactly. I feel like the second one was the best in terms of price to performance. Also, hard drives just cost $50-$70 and he was making it seem like such a big deal. I love his videos, but this one was kind of immature.

You definitely don't need a mobo that's more expensive than your CPU in a mid-range build in any situation, nor do you need a $160 case in a mid-range build.

@@eliwixson8863 Unless you plan on OC-ing down the line in a mobo shortage. In that case, you really don't have a choice.

@@jaronmarles941 b450 can do oc fine

@@joeass2399 VRM temps

EA: Pay 14.99$ to unlock the plus

Big up Latvia

Enough plusses and he'll be competing with Intel.

@@sudoertor2009 haha, nice one!

He has glasses...but yeah...

Right, I was laughing my butt off. "A better PSU so you can upgrade your graphics card later" and then giving the dude a lower score because he picked stronger parts and made an easy upgrade path of throwing in a HDD later.

Wrong cuts were made. Games are approaching 200GB each now in the AAA space. 100GB initial then massive updates.

@@PiousSlayer you are dreaming xd most of them are replacing the files i haven't seen a game except ark and new cod that exceeds 100 gb

@@PiousSlayer What? Apex - 36GB R6 - 65GB PUBG - 32GB GTA V - 70GB Battlefront II - 70GB Battlefield V - 50GB DRG - 3GB Vermintide 2 - 35GB CSGO - 15GB Gmod - 13GB The Witcher 3 - 40GB PF: Kingmaker - 30GB So, none over a hundred, a significant amount below 50GB.

george Maraslis my fortnite file size is 170gbs, gta v 120, forza horizon 4 100 and something, ark 200, most games are going over the 100gbs mark these days

Flexing about a hexacore CPU: yeah, we've got one. Was said by high-end desktop users in 2010.

He said that about the core i7 hexacore CPU, not the SSD

@@eddyrodriguez3865 r/youmissedthejoke

@@JulioTheBusDriver what joke, he said “we got one” to the CPU, not the SSD

A: “AM I A JOKE TO YOU!?”

S: A IS A JOKE TO ME

😭

that’s some comedy homicide right there

B minus plus is between B- and B, actually, it's basically a slightly better B-, it's not the same as B.

I would have made List 1, or 2 and gone with that cheap rgb phanteks case for the light show. Then again I dont much care about the light show.... Says the guy with the glowing Ram, and CPU cooler...

The basic premise was pretty much how I would set up. RGB is nice, but only a fancy extra, doesn't need to look funky, but colors shouldn't clash. A good compromise of performance and price.

Mikey Alaimo can xxxxxl VI hi XX xx 💁‍♂️😃🐥

I’m pretty sure he ment buying higher speed ram

@@guyzzersRight... but it's not possible to access those speeds with oc'ing

Lucerion 3600?

@@guyzzers correction I meant without enabling the XMP profile, ddr4 Ram won't utilize over 2444mhz unless done so most beginners won't know how to do so

I mean it isn’t that hard to do so. Some ram kits have the XMP profile for the higher ram speeds set already

I mean it was just a joke

@@online_antics4830 so was that u numbskull

No he will make more than 2k

@@tfsmcpe9402 from one video? Probably not, your average you tuber doesn’t make as much as you may think

@@FearedIce-9813 444444444444444

He's conflicting himself all over this video! :D

The first one was the best one and they are trying to keep it right at 1k lol

Also, if you look at comparisons on RU-vid, the fps difference between 3200 and 3600 RAM is usually less than 5 fps

@@erikibarra14 for 10 bucks more that is worth it.

@@DerToasti I would disagree. You won't even notice that small of a difference. I'd rather put my $10 towards something else

im gonna guess hes gonna make way more than enough

It Kyle

@@HayderAbdulridha i didnt notice the L had switch with the K 😅. Thanx

Well...if he let me send BAT i wouldn't have to feel bad >.

@@diegon2020 singular RU-vid videos don't make that much money

Chris Busquine What the heck do you play ??

@@sebastiankmec472 probably just GTA V and CSGO or something

defo garry's mod

My steam folder has been 1TB+ for years, And playing steam games is not the only thing I do.

@@HappyBeezerStudios building a PC always comes down to user needs.

Algis-kun ikr

I believe that list was more on the "lack of storage" that came from cutting corners wrong, I believe if he did better with the storage and cut some corners somewhere else he could have been first

He's not a good part picker for sure

He also said to choose the 1600af over the 2600 but I dont think the af is on part picker

@@lukasmackenzie7036 Partpicker, amazon, etc list the 1600AF as 1600

But muh Call of Duty, it's the only game in the world

Yeah... That part annoyed me.

Well... When I upgraded my PC recently, I waited until I could get a big fuckin' chonker of an NVMe SSD (2 TB), because I knew migrating data from one drive to the other would be a pain in the ass. Sure enough, it was. I actually, funny enough, only have one M.2 slot in my current mobo, so if I want to swap up to a faster/larger NVMe, I'm basically kinda fucked (I would need to buy a SATA SSD of 2TB size first to juggle the data around, kind of an obnoxious thing to have to do). I'd honestly rather buy the fucking SSD once and not have to worry about juggling data in the most painful ways possible.

@@michealhoffstater9810 If/when you need/want to upgrade that NVMe drive you could use a M.2 to PCIe NVMe card to copy the old to the new. Looking at Newegg right now they are available for as low as $6. If you want a external solution using a USB to M.2 NVMe compatible converter it will cost a bit more, the cheapest at the egg currently selling for $30. This is for a bare board controller without any enclosure, but add a few dollar and you can get one that will double as a fast USB drive with your old NVMe drive installed in it. The price difference comes from NVMe really being PCIe so the first card isn't anything but a bare PCB with a PCIe edge connector and a M.2 connector. This card can't handle a M.2 SATA drive as that would require a SATA controller. The USB solution is the other way around as a M.2 SATA to USB solution is cheap while M.2 NVMe to USB require a more expensive controller.

Yeah but you're an experienced PC builder. Normal folk, they wanna buy a system and never have to touch it again when it's done. Even a storage upgrade can be scary if you got someone to build the system for you. The first system is ready to rock for 5 years or more the second you've finished it. And if you really want extra performance out of it and you're no noob, you can overclock the 5700 for insane performance gains, We're talking a breezy +300 on the core rock stable, even on entry level models, XT performance or better.

@@GeorgePerakis The normal folk you are referring to exist, but they are not the people that will fill a 500GB with games. Don't forget most normal folk tend to use an external HDD for their shows and downloads when low on space. People buy additional storage for the cellphones. Even console peasants go and buy HDD for their consoles. Nearly everyone who owns a PC has a friend or colleague that won't mind spending 2 minutes adding an additional drive for them at no cost. upgrading storage is not scary or difficult today. This was for a gaming & streaming system, not office use else I would have agreed with you. Being able to upgrade the system is a part of having a Gaming PC else you can just go buy a console instead.

George Perakis the no noob is irrelevant because if you’re no noob then you’re probably not going to be spending money for somebody to build your PC. Also, upgrading your memory if your no noob is simple and really cheap. Whenever i build a PC for friends I may skip out on memory or at the very least get them a 1-2tb HDD and they can get a SSD later. SSDs are not really a must and just add extra $$ to your build when you can get better peice of hardware for that money. As stated most people won't be using 1TB of memory it took years before I had to get a new HDD. The average gamer won't use that much memory immediately even the final fantasy game is not as much memory.

Also many people already have old storages laying around. Simply slide that in or can buy more storage later when he really need it. Most people play like 2-3 games at a time.

Gpu is more important

Agreed. Stupid...

Can u plz help me with my build

He had to cut somewhere the costs for better GPU and RAM - smaller storage was the best choice becouse it is a lightest part of an PC what you could upgrade later. System 2 should be at first place.

Damn buddy! Save up some money! You can easily by 500gb SSD for around $60 and then buy 2tb HDD for $60

Cries in 240 gb ssd for 60$

I cried at 5200rpm.

Im so sick of people always bitching of their outdated systems... Sace up for months and upgrade. Im poor and broke most the time like majority of people. Still have a monster pc. Why? Ducking saved for ages.... Can be done if u aint a crying lil bitch....

@@nullerror4049 im crying, as a joke, that i overpayed for my ssd. I did this because i just fried my 3700x with a bad ssd for 20$, so i went for a more expensive one to be safe. Chill out.

Was wishing the same thing

i know right. You can really learn some few things from this vid but he handled it poorly sometimes

@@tomybogadjian1487 what could you learn there? I mean he said the whole time contradictionary things, like he wanted a 5700xt and faster ram, but a cut on other things was also not allowed

He already said everything for the build he would, during the review. Re-watch

@@sushan118 Not, thats not in the budget. He said what He wants in the build, but there was a maximum budget. Did you even watch the video?

Even more so when the performance difference is going to be non existent if he's only playing at 60fps.

Processors don't even use the full 3200 unless you overclock it

@@Schmeevene no ocing ram is timings. So from cl18 to cl 15 or 14 if u know how to do it. Xmp is not overclock lol.

@@nullerror4049 XMP only allows the pre-set profile to be put into use, which means if you don't activate XMP the "3600MHz" for example is just 2133MHz, i had 4266MHz and my X570 Xtreme couldn't handle that speed with 3950X so the 4266MHz kit was a waste of money because it only ran 2133MHz. And before you say that i should have done it manually, well, i did try couple of times, but even 3200 / 3600 / 3766 did not work with that high end kit. Though, the person i sold that kit to did say that one of the sticks stopped working completely so, maybe it was just monday product on the RAM's side. (Trident Z Royal 4266MHz CL19 Silver) Edit : Oh, and i did try all possible latency setups, CL14, CL15, CL16, CL18, CL19.

@@DrEtzor yeah ive noticed alot of stability issues with kits over 3200mhz. Even on top end motherboards. Thats why i opted out straight for 3200mhz even tho ryzen "prefers" 3600. Most mobos even say on offical sites max of xxxx. So i made sure my x470 gaming x had 3200 support. My ram runs fine on 3200 and i had a buddy bump it to cl15 from 16. Since manual ocing for ram is where i freeze XD But yeah its weird. Some cases run over 3600mhz ez some cabt even be steady on 3000. And if it died rly might have been faulty from the start. R7 2700x Trident z 2x8 3200 Aorus x470 gaming x.

LMAO FR

Bro people are fucking Obsessed with that cpu

@@kingnugward1623 So much so, that its no longer an 85$, more like 100$ where I live.

Péter Molnár Fr, the 2600 is a good 30€ cheaper than the 1600AF where I’m at rn lmao

Bru 😆

Well yes but actually no You're right But with twee king the Infinite fabric to support 3600mhz Makes it Run better for gaming

True, Ryzen 5 3600 sweet spot memory frequency is indeed 3200mhz. You don't get any significant performance jump from 3200 to 3666 like you get from 2400 to 3200 (or even 2666). I think Kyle is wrong to cut a point from the fiverr guy, that guy knows this and Kyle don't.

@@snakeinabox7220 you're proving his point. A pc beginner wouldn't know how to tweak that.

Budiman JoJo I’m also confused why he cut the guy for having a 2600x, as the 2600x was on sale for $99 when the part list was put together...

Good point about xmp. Didn't think of that tbh. Would be something the user woukd have to learn after the fact. Ryzen 3000 has a fair chance of running DDR4 3600 with a decent board like the one in the list, regardless of "official" support. It would just be considered out of spec and overclocking at that point.

@Kaliss quadro will get bottlenecked to oblivion with an older parts

@@djmccullough9233 would those be better for Virtual Computing? and video rendering?

@@djmccullough9233 why would anyone have HDDs in a 5000$ system? Even after getting best components, on that budget you will still have more than enough money for like 6tb of SSDs.

@@djmccullough9233 just wandering, why do you need 16Tb of storage. A genuine question, not a dig.

The last guy would stick with the same parts and add spend the extra 4000$ on rgb

Indeed. 3200 CL16 to 3600 CL18 makes almost no difference, especially if you don't adjust the IF clock (which inexperienced users won't do).

That is just what i was thinking =)

Exactly my thought. For 12nm Ryzen in particular, 3200 CL16 is the sweet spot

Yep I have 3200 CL16 in my Zen 2 rig and it is FINE.

James Russo I bought 3200 memory and it runs at 2400. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and my performance is fantastic even with the slow ram

What good is a 2000$ machine if it cant store anything? :D Mine is just a little above the first parts list, has a 2 tb SSD and a 2 tb SSHD(I got that one dirt cheap), just so there is no need to worry about installing and saving stuff. On the other hand, upgrading or adding drives is the smallest problem

Fernabi aner Yeah thats why I choose for a better CPU and GPU and less storage so it still would fit in my budget in that time

Watching this on a €3000 pc with 1tb storage: uhmm compress and decompress games?

that only serves to show you where your priorities were at. seems like you didnt need more than 500 gigs? if you only play a couple games and dont have a giant media collection then 500 gigs would be plenty for what you need. Extra storage is nice but unless you absolutely need it then that extra money could easily go into a better cpu or gpu.

Lmao dawg I've got 2tb on my laptop

Instead of spending that much on a shitty case and a overpowered psu I would upgrade the GPU

what I thought too!

kinosabe yeah, Inland is microcenter’s store brand. I have a 1TB Inland Professional SATA drive for games storage - got it for $80 in store. Definitely not the fastest drive out there, but it stores games and does it well. Inland is definitely a brand I would look to for a secondary/tertiary drive

Came hear to say this the 450 boards just don't like high ram. I've made my mistake hope others don't make the same mistake.

Dont worry fellas. 3200 is good enough. At one point it was the "sweet spot" for zen+ chips. Wasnt that long ago.

That's what I was wondering. He told them he was a noob. Over clocking is out. And a "noob" will not notice a difference between 3200 and 3600. Lol especially since a noob won't notice the 3600 ram defaulting to a lower speed on the MoBo. 😃

I refreshed the tab and watched the whole ad when I saw your comment.

Its fine, he makes questionable decisions anyway, like his audi trololol

It's B--, B-+, B, B+-, B++

Well you you were a True intellectual it's would be B- because in algebra (+1)(-1)(B) = -B

David An more like Normal people: B Me (an intellectual): B minus plus

B+- = about B B-+= B- since not writing a sign before a number usually indicates that it is positive You don't write +1, you just write 1.

Stuck one in the wife's laptop to see how it actually runs (I set her sims4 data to cloud backup in case of failure). Year later, 1TB Inland NVME is still running strong

Also, I think it's MLC. That P1 in the first system may be NVMe but it's QLC and I'd rather take a smaller drive with MLC over QLC for primary storage.

Yup. The Professional are solid drives. The Premium use similar parts to Samsung 970's and are crazy good!

Also, Nvidia for single PC streaming. Period. Coming from an all AMD guy, Nvidia is a better choice if you're streaming. The 5700 and 5700XTs are mistakes.

I like my rgb stuff in my system, I mean it’s okay, but I’m kinda new to it and it was pretty tedious and confusing running the extra wires and just causes extra hassle. When are motherboard and fan manufacturers going to come together and integrate rgb power and control through the fan headers and connectors themselves? And make ALL rgb light control BIOS level

I would say I respect your different spelling of "waste", but I'd be lying.

@@nathangamble125 Nah they just have rgb strips wrapped around their waist

@@zackstaa7826 If I build a PC, I'd honestly probably find a way around RGB as it adds way too much time to a PC build with all the extra wires that are just for aesthetic. Oh wait, I forgot, it boosts cpu and ram and aesthetic. it lowers your ping! i need download ram... i am literally not have job cuz i cant get one yet also I am speaking like this because it's idk. So, now let me just type a part that you can actually understand as I can't even understand what i just typed, because grammar and spelling is non-existent in that part. But seriously, RGB is kind of annoying in terms of when you're building it. Maybe I'll RGB myself.

I mean not a lot of launches due to you know what happening recently

@Alex Martin it's probably because he doesnt plan for it like ltt does, this man just starts speaking after hitting the record on camera

If you dont like it then why you watching it? Idiot. Not to mention it's a great way for people to learn to build computers. Maybe you know how(doubt it) but others dont. Your not the only one watching.....

@@Mastersujo What makes you think he watched the whole video after he began to think that this is poor quality content? Idiot. Not to mention that this video will barely help a newbie build a PC. Maybe you know (doubt it) that this video isn't a tutorial on how to build a PC but a video on Fiverr part pickers? This isn't a tutorial.

Straight outta Compton, I see what you did there

Ikr he literally told the first guy he should've made some cuts to squeeze in a 3600 memory kit and a 5700XT, and when the second guy made those cuts he said that was a bad thing to do. Make up your mind lmao

You are totally right and yea there are people that don't really need too much storage but i think kyle wanted to appease the more storage hungry audience like me for example. I have pretty low end pc (around less than $200) and 1tb hard drive (+ a 320 gig hdd backup) isn't enough and soon ill need a new drive.

I have about 4.5-5 TB in my system. With an ass ton of games installed. I typically play only on weekends now and usually play 1-2 different games every weekend. Although, I know I am the minority here, as I used to be the type you speak of. Sort of still am, as the games that I play most often overall, are all on SS memory. As for the deleting game's part, not a lot of people have very good internet it may take them a LONG time to download the games, which if they forgot to start it early may have them sitting there and twiddling their thumbs.

@@necrobynerton7384 Where did you even find a 320gb HDD? Tell me its a hold out from an older system? That seems like Tech History now. lol. I know its not that old, but my High School computer teacher used to have this giant drive that was like a 5.25-inch drive and about 4 inches tall, had like 5 giant platters, and that capped at 25 megs. Ahh the good ole days.

20 games? what games are you playing that allow you to download 20 games to only 1TB? After you install OS and software you are looking at around 850GB of that 1TB before over provisioning. There are many games that are over 100GB the new COD is what 170GB? Say you do only play 5 games if the average of those games are 60GB each that is 300GB, I hope you do not plan on making videos or storing video files or throwing another game or two you only plan to play a few times on that drive.

@@Kirinketsu_ He is saying people DONT need 20 games installed, and since they play 1-3 games regularly, people don't generally need more storage.

Cian Ormond when will people know that Powerspec is microcenters good in-house brand

Does this mean that my OCZ vertex3 that's reporting 128C (262F) is probably okay? :D

whered you find a 2700x for that price

Zunyr Micro Center is large but uncommon you’re lucky if you live next to one and he just so happens to

Inland, Team, TCSunBow, I've never heard a RU-vidr recommend one before but on real forums and chat rooms they're recommended left and right. The difference between a cheap-ass SATA III drive with a DRAM module and a not-trash controller is indistinguishable from a PCI-e Gen 4 NVME drive in consumer workloads.

@@shitposter695 I agree, I knew they existed but never shopped at one until I moved to Boston, now it's right down the road, I rarely order from Newegg anymore bc of it

Zunyr yeah I’m lucky enough to live by one to

People who cant afford a lot of ssd storage like me

People who dont have fast internet, I got a 1tb nvme and 2tb HDD so I dont have to worry about downloading the games all over again

I got a 250gb 970 evo for my bootdrive and got a 1tb mx-500 M.2 drive for games. Had an old 250gb 850 evo for my game library before but even though i got a fiber connection, i got tired of constantly deleting and downloading games to manage the space. Especially with some games being around 100gb these days. 500gb drive for games woulda been fine too but with SSD's getting so cheap, might aswell get a bit extra space. Got 13 games installed, some of them quite large and still less than half full.

This guy because internet and shi. I have okay internet but downloading the 75 GB game would take me 2 day, maybe 4 days sometimes depending on weather

@@Dracossaint sorry bud but if it takes you multiple days to download 75 GB, your internet isn't "okay" doing some math here, that's about 7 Mb/s download speed if it takes you exactly 24 hours

I couldn't make it past the first list. Seemed as if he was making excuses to gripe about a wish list they didn't know existed.

He got upset because the dude skipped on storage while the other dude was able to fit a m.2 1 terabyte and 2 terabytes of hdd storage

@@realmusic_enjoyer ​ he said to the first dude to cut corners to get a better GPU and ram. That is exactly what the second dude did. And he not happy at all with it. I don't know man. he is just dumb. And he made it sounds like he is the best at PC.

@@realmusic_enjoyer that is the cute you have to make to keep the price below $1000. and if you want more storage cuz you have about 70 csgo on your pc. you can slide another ssd in anytime.

@@realmusic_enjoyer i have a $3000 pc with only 250gb of ssd. i have no problem with it at all.

Probably not at all, tbh.

The worst part is that he never mentions the cl of the ram because I bet the 3600mhz is cl18/19 is at least same or worst than 3200mhz cl16

Yes the sweet spot 3200 but you can get more of it you have a low CL For your example 3200cl16 is better than a 3600cl18

@@pedrosousa1888 that's what I said

I run 3600 at CL15 in my system and I've tested 3200 and I can tell you, there is no difference. I also paid a rather large premium to get 3600 at CL15, so value-wise it's poop. Don't overspend on memory! Do get at least 3200 (preferably CL16 or lower) for a Ryzen CPU, always.

They have great speeds, Phison E12 controller, faster than Crucial P1 and Intel 660P, almost rivaling 970 Evo Plus. QLC memory. Definitely a great NVMe SSD for the money.

840k views. He made about $2500