"I Played EverQuest for 100 hours - should you?" by  

'Also you're very handsome'. It's true, I did say that.

The crossover I never knew I wanted

Now we wait for Josh's reaction to Muk's react. :)

Check out the Original Vid! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PU1zn2oohkM.html&ab_channel=JoshStrifeHayes

Two hours of watching a guy go ballistic with nostalgia

16:10 The idea of people talking different languages screaming at eachother in what is basically a group therapy session and it working is hilarious

I too spent 7 years with EverQuest from launch. Occasionally I consider jumping back in but cannot stomach the legion of inconveniences. This video has reminded me of so many I had forgotten, but I'll never forget the hours spent sitting and making arrows...

Thoroughly enjoyed. I really like JSH and have watched him for a while. I think "React" content only has a negative connotation from the kinds of people who literally do nothing but watch and make funny faces. Amusing enough, a lotof the most popular "react" streamers offer way more input and thought about a topic than the stuff they're watching half the time.

Great video! Couple things. 1:06:15 this hasn't been true for 15 years. Coins are weightless and have been since around 2008 (SoD era, if I recall correctly). 1:09:01 You can put (empty) bags in bags now. You don't have to convert them to tokens anymore. I don't even remember when that changed but it's been a while. Also, there are TONS of bags (and boxes) that fit Giant sized items (like the bear pelt Josh is referring to), available even at low levels. 1:40:00 You spawn on death with all your gear. You still leave behind a corpse (for rezzing purposes) but no more corpse runs to get your stuff. That change was made in like 2008 or so? It had something to do with mercs, if I remember right. 1:40:20 As you know Muk, this applied to every class EXCEPT Shaman, who can stack all of their dots on a mob and they'll all stack, from Tainted Breath all the way to Breath of Ultor and beyond. Also, that necklace wasn't Troll Shaman only. I have four DE clerics who have it too. You just have to follow Innoruuk. Awesome video though. It's always great to see things through others' eyes when you take certain things for granted. I'm still playing EQ but I don't have the same experience as Josh because I've been playing for 25 years. I can do 1-60 in 11 hours, with the classes available to me, so these types of videos help with my perspective.

I had a similar experience with FFXIV except I couldn't get past the first hour of unskippable boring AF cutscenes and pages of text dump without wanting to kill myself and I have difficulty believing people actually went through all that and thought "this seems fun so far, I'm going to keep at it and see where this goes"

This was a huge trip down memory lane for me too. Lots of cool stories, lots of painful stories. Thanks for sharing this Mukluk!

I was a Max-Level Cleric during Luclin expansion that had got you the maximum XP back when I rezzed you. I loved that aspect of helping people.

Everquest was my first mmorpg and I loved it. I spent several thousand hours playing that game and I only wish that a new mmorpg could provide the sense of fulfillment that EQ gave me. I remember spending a week with a RL friend camping a mob spawn that was required to begin his class epic quest. The sense of danger in certain unforgiving dungeons or zones. I still yearn for the nostalgia of it so every once in a while I log onto an emulated server just to experience what I used to play. I Was a main Bard that didn't use the /melody command and I really wish some other mmo would give me that same-ish play style where your decisions were made on the fly and you reacted to every changing moment instead of following a standardized rotation.

It's honestly really wholesome to see Muk just gush about a game he likes even if it's for 2 hrs

There was a seriously cool quest in EQ in the Dwarf Cleric Guild to bring the Dwarf "Stacks of 3 Bone Chips." I got SO MANY levels by filling my bags in PAINEEL (in the Erudite starting zone) and bringing them to Kaladim to give the Dwarf.

The Everquest mechanics sounds like a pretty direct port of the old MUDs. Am I the only one who remembers those? If nothing else, they give good historical context when looking at modern (and older) MMOPRGS.

I also watch on 2x, hearing Josh at omega speed was funny. EQ is my childhood and I would start over today if I had a playgroup.

Another really neat thing about the free form quest chat vs having dialogue options in a conversation window is sometimes NPCs would have hidden responses. If some NPCs in Qeynos overheard you talking about gnolls, for example, they'd give you directions to a guard captain who had a bounty for gnoll teeth. And guards would sometimes give you directions if you asked about a location in town. (And some NPCs would attack you if you said the wrong thing to them, heh.) Edit: And a really fun thing about the way you just give items to NPCs is you used to be able to just give NPCs...anything. They eventually changed it so NPCs only take items relevant to their quests (because too many people were giving items to the wrong NPCs) but for a while you could give NPCs weapons and armor which they would then equip. It was great for escort quests, or just general messing about.

JSH's video actually got me to go try it out again. Had not played in probably 20 years + and it all came back so fast. It is a far different game now and much more modern in leveling speed. I was level 28 in a couple days and had over 10k gold. The game is still very fun and going back to leveling my old necro class from level 1 was really fun. It is more hand holdy and some of the things like coin weight have been removed but the game needed to be fixed for modern players if they wanted those players to come visit.

@ 7:22 I made this same point on a MightyTeapot stream and damn near got death threats from the people on that stream because I didn't think it was fair to say that "everyone wants more content". Teapot himself also took it *very* personally that he got called out for being someone who plays the game for income and doesn't necessarily represent the average gamer. So, uhh, beware that some people get very spicy when called out for gaming a large amount of their hours in the day compared to other people. It can apparently strike a nerve.

Listening to your stories and experience really just enhance the video for me.

I remember the letter "A" being auto-attack! -- Such good times!

I still to this day have multiple notebooks with epic steps and checklists all hand written. I was one of those that multi boxed a full group of 6.

Played for 18ish years, but eventually quit when I couldn't spend the same amount of time playing to keep up raiding (Morell Thule forever!). I still log in occasionally, run around some old zones for nostalgia, and take a peek at guild and friend lists and wonder whatever happened to the people I knew, long ago. Still adventuring, I hope.

I used to escort wizards through the Qeynos sewers so they could get the part needed for their Staff of the Wheel . That is how I made money.

I remember playing a bard and set up a /melody marco for my songs.

"with the best hairline" 😂😂 You know it, I know it, everybody knows it

LOVED DAOC back in the day

So glad to see my name swallowed up with other patreons! The more the Merrier. (this is enthusiastic, not sarcastic)

My Cleric on the Original Tunare server knew ALL the languages. I got with a friend who sat with me for several days and macroed with me until my character had all the languages maxed.

As a handsome guy myself, I'd love to see these handsome dudes collab some time.

As a shaman you forgot the joy of the Can-Can Cannibalize dance you did to make sue the tick would see you sitting to get perfect regen with cannibalize! Don't forget 72 hour STRAIGHT.. yes STRAIGHT NONESTOP HOURS camping Ragefire for 1, one, single, part of the Cleric Epic res stick. Also who can forget doing split 0 0 0 50000 when the arrogant monk who thought he was untouchable was pulling in Sebilis. Wait..... you man you didn't want 10k copper during a pull.... oops! Everquest was and apparently a game that required skill and I think that is the nostalgia, like you said if someone was max level you knew that had to "Not suck" not true in modern games..... ahh the good old days.. killing Kerafrym and not getting loot because the devs didnt think we could doo it. Farming Avatar of War for the regen breastplate for your shaman..... good old EQ... 18 person Venril Sathir raids, because it was hard to do.... Memories! Heyas from Veeshan server!

3:08 The surprise x4. MY PEOPLE!

Bards can't do the aoe kiting thing anymore sadly. The spell that hit everything around you only works if the enemy isn't moving. They can charm kite though... That's a lot of fun :)

I played EQOA (EverQuest for PS2) from release to sunset and for the first year the game had no map or compass.

The best part of EQ was scheduling. You had to pick a time when no one at home was waiting for phone calls or wanting to make one. Or wanted to get online as it was all on dial up at that time.

I stopped right around Gates of Discord because my computer at that time could not handle the graphic update. By then City of Heroes and EverQuest 2 got my attention. I couldn't goto WoW simply because WoW was doing what EQ did and I was tired of the grind. I was in 9th grade when I started (Ruins of Kunark just came out) and I stopped right around 2004.

4:20 yeah the original FF14 content, before expansions, is pretty slow.

I would think a person who is multi-boxing is using Macros on any machine that procs after a certain interval so the un-manned character still continues to function if the player moves to a separate monitor.

EverQuest….. the game with no quests. The answer to that? The first expansion gave each class a quest that took a year to complete! 😂😂 classic stuff!!!!

I have a vague memory of Josh doing a react "battle" with someone a while back. Maybe I'm misremembering, but it makes me laugh thinking he might react to your reacting.

Don't forget Star Wars Galaxies when WoW launched, It was the MMO for me (pre the free Jedi for all expansion). EQ was too "hard-core" for me, I like more DAoC. I did play EQ2 and I have tried to do some come backs. The thing is, IMHO, that MMO were about guilds and social interaction. Nowadays, they seem to be about "meta" and competition. It kills the social part.

7:50 streamers tend to forget this, and critique games based on someone who can play 8 hours a day, and thats the largerst form of feedback game devs get, seen so many games cater to streamers not realizing that doing so will shun about 90% of their players who cant dedicate that amount of time

The only thing i disagreed with Josh about was his difficulty with Project 1999. It took me less than half an hour to find EQ Titanium, install it, get the P99 files, create an account, and be up and running. Project Quarm is even easier and it feels so close to EQ 23 years ago it's crazy.

If I hadn't played ffxiv at launch with friends, I wouldn't have made it through 10 hours either. And if you skip in any story based rpg you lose your connection to a world that you're investing a good portion of your life to.

I tried EQII and was lost, didn't enjoy it and led me to DAoC which is why I was drawn to GW2.

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the real ones where playing ragnarok online XD

I'll be honest guys, some people may think EQ1 is too grindy, or difficul, or whatever. But honestly I find *most* modern mmos unsatisfying by comparison

3:23 No. 1x speed only.

Omg someone else who watches RU-vid at x2 speed. Made my day

Honestly, most of this also applies to Final Fantasy 11!

Have you ever played EQ2 before? How much different is it compared to EQ1?

about the FF14 comment at the begining, first i played gw2, then i tried FF14... and i got on that.... and there was AoE on the ground.... and i tried to dodge..... there is no dodge you just walk.... and i got bored after that... long long long after some friends invited me to play it, and it was fun playing because of friends, when friends stoped playing, the game got boring again the story is amazing, but... story you can watch on youtube.

EverQuest return stream when?

I cant imagine the *most* of the modern kids playing EQ1 lol, imagine the whining

Ah what a shame, I love PS2, but valid

Even stole all the EQ end game raiders, gave them all beta and some people even got jobs at blizzard.

It quite annoys me when people say FFXIV gets better later and suggest skipping. It gets better from the story point of view only when you are already immersed in the universe, have done the long ARR prologue, are acquainted with all the important NPCs, etc. OR (and) if you don't mind (or just enjoy) the classic tab-targeting gameplay loop based on WotLK WoW with dailies, dungeons, reputation grinds, raids, etc. If you don't like either of the components, no matter how long you spend in the game, you won't like it; it's a waste of time. I think I can be called a hardcore FFXIV fan (I've been playing the game since 2013, so more than 10 years already), and I am. I'm always glad when someone starts to share my passion for the game. But this game has a certain niche, and it's not worth trying to shoehorn someone into it. FFXIV is good enough from the beginning, and if you suggest someone skip it because "it gets better," you make things far worse. It won't. Its gameplay loop is still the same; it won't change, and there will still be plenty of long windows full of unvoiced text.

Muk hates Shadowbane & Anarchy online.

1:33:40

i Would say 100% you kinda have to skip ff14RR becase you can tell RR is a game that is a fix to the orignal you can see the glue and tape holding it together and I really do think it does a REAL diservice to the rest of the game its something SE really needs to figure out cause ALOT of MMO players would love the game if they didn't have to play RR to get to the actual game xD

yeah ff14s new player expiriance is aweful the game genuinly gets better after the "a realm reborn" part and you reach heavensward thankfuly everything up to and including heavensward is free now and they ahve doen soem work to make the 1 to 60 better but its still a chore to go through and realy sours the game which is a big shame becuase it truely gets better when you get into the first expac >.>

Not a fan of his stuff...

There is no such thing as mixed feelings, he is just jealous. All you need is an idea or a nice personality and people will watch the content, and Josh Strife Hayes has neither of those.