My Honest Review of Zenless Zone Zero After 25 Hours of Gameplay

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@Xlice 15 дней назад

overall, i'm glad im able to discuss criticisms in this review because i know alot of you guys may share the same sentiment, but dont want to feel like ur just dogpiling on the game im still gonna play because after hitting IL30 i quite enjoy it if you're interested yourself, i got my sponsor link below: ZZZ has reached 50 million downloads and is giving away 1,600 Polychrome to celebrate! Download for FREE: hoyo.link/9V0jF7AL ty for watching

@koobiez7145 15 дней назад

what does elements in ZZZ do?

@ft.jbryce 15 дней назад

I loveee the game honestly. It is very refreshing, I feel so refreshed from playing it and I realized it when I started playing it, guess I am a little tired of open world etch lmao. Also maybe it's the side of me who likes Visual Novel/Persona type of game. I really enjoyed Persona series and Stein's gate series. Having Zzz to have its resemblance to the game I mentioned, I got hooked quickly. Also, I wish they can add more recipes of ramen lmao like the cafe 😂

@blob4559 15 дней назад

@@koobiez7145 attacking enemies can build up anomaly and depends on the elements can trigger different effects like frozen and shatter with ice, burning with fire, etc. Trigger a different effect on an enemy with an existing effect can trigger disorder as well.

@focalors_furinaa 14 дней назад

agreed on ZZZ focusing on the world-building, the execution of the presentation of the story, graphics, amazing OSTs, even how the TV gameplay is related to the story is what made me feel like im not even playing a gacha game when i first tried it, its honestly a really refreshing take on the fighting-game gacha genre and i feel like that is what Hoyo is intentionally trying to achieve with ZZZ, a perfect casual-ish gacha game to fit in my schedule that includes quite a few gachas already

@el_vladarou6573 14 дней назад

@Xlice I'm gonna be honest I don't see this game lasting for more then 2 weeks. It's sad because I was really hyped for this game but there are issues at a fundamental level with gameplay, story progression and characters selection.

@ChefHennessy 15 дней назад

i just cant believe hoyo added a skip button on a game with good story telling but i still have to click through the same dialogue to find somebodys lost dog for fontaine commissions

@m.elhaj.98 15 дней назад

And u get a summary of what u are skipping … its crazy to me how good they polished the game

@LargeBanana 15 дней назад

Genshin is an abandoned game.

@dan2800 15 дней назад

There's a story replay function to compensate that only omits the unimportant dialogue that is not voiced I believe but everything else stays

@sneakretster 15 дней назад

@@LargeBanana no it's not, it's just an old game fundamentally built without the optimizations that star rail and ZZZ could both take advantage of since they had 3 years of criticisms to work from. Adding a skip button (while mostly pointless) is not just some easy tack-on addition and trying to implement it will more than likely mess up some of the coding for the hundreds of quests already in the game without it. I feel like people like you don't fully understand how much work it probably takes for them to attempt to optimize a 4 year old live service game without mucking the entire thing up which is why we get QoL in small amounts.

@ChefHennessy 15 дней назад

@@sneakretster while i do think that this could make sense for a skip button, they also took quite some time to change the max resin capacity to 200 despite all the requests. that change mustve just been a hardcoded number that they never bothered to change until now.

@thegamingnerd4 15 дней назад

I feel like ZZZ is gonna be the type of game that if you like it, you REALLY like it, but if you don't like it, you want nothing to do with it. It's not gonna work for everyone, but not everything has to be made for mass appeal. Something can be niche and still be great.

@ludensecho1959 15 дней назад

this comment wins. it's a niche game compared to the likes of Genshin and I'm totally fine with that!

@mischarowe 15 дней назад

Yes and I've found I like it more than I thought I would.

@megatbasyarullah4859 15 дней назад

Basically every other game than genshin and wuwa. I like it tbh. Less toxicity within the community

@mischarowe 15 дней назад

@@megatbasyarullah4859 The zzz community has imported from wuwa and genshin and hsr, to be fair.

@mischarowe 15 дней назад

@@megatbasyarullah4859 ZZZ gamers came from genshin and wuwa.

@aeowinh 14 дней назад

I feel the hate towards this game is basically people unable to admit they aren't the target audience for it and being mad about it, I honestly find this game a lot more fun than most other gachas considering the polish of the animations, the combat is fun and have depth to it without being overwhelming, the introduce the parts of endgame combat and gearing bit by bit so you don't get confused about it, the charisma of the cast of characters and NPCs smashes most a lot of the other games even non gacha ones and the history is a lot more grounded and less about larger than life threats which make you care a lot more about this characters than in other games.

@SY-re9vu 14 дней назад

Because they're doing a misleading marketing. They market this game as the peak of combat and focused on it. In reality, just 20% combat and 80% is TV, loading, talking to npc and doing boring chores. They brought a target audience that is focused in combat, then the hate is well deserved.

@wolfwoof2000 13 дней назад

I completly agree. What’s the target audience ? It’s more story players… The combat is fancy but very stale after a while.

@elstrangeenemy887 12 дней назад

@@SY-re9vu "Misleading marketing" My brother in Christ the game has been wide knowledge since 2 years ago, there where 3 betas with PLENTY of gameplay recorded right here in this platform, how could people not know what the game, it's gameplay and target audience was like?? "The peak of combat and focused on it" is vague as fuck and doesn't count as misleading marketing you clown, here I'll give you an hypothetical example of what you are complaining about: "Our game will have Street Fighter like mechanics and 90% of it's content will revolve around said gameplay!! We can't show any of it but you can trust our integrity :D" *Game proceeds to be a Soulslike*

@SpyralKing 11 дней назад

@@SY-re9vu its not misleading lol. Im a combat enjoyer. Thats why I played the game. I have loved pretty much everything about the experience so far and im Level35. Its not "boring chores" if you sit your ass down and actually get involved in the story. The only misleading part is that in your brain, combat had to equal arcade combat with ONLY combat. Where I stand, the game has great combat, its got a unique take on storytelling and a unique vibe. Feels like a Persona with stylish action combat. You're just not the target audience. The start of the game has alot of TV, but that isnt the whole game. Theres plenty of combat once you get into the rest of the game. There can exist different types of combat "enjoyers", you might just not be the type to enjoy such a game.

@gauravmaharjan894 8 дней назад

@@wolfwoof2000its not stale, u just too used to shitty gacha games

@RailGun256 15 дней назад

Personally, as someone mid chapter 2, im finding the lore to be super compelling. As someone who typically doesnt like the action oriented style of combat i was skeptical as to whether I would like it or not, but so far, im invested enough to continue and maybe even dip into optimizing combat a bit. This is something that never happened with Genshin so im going to keep playing for now. Not sure if im going to pay in at all or not, but im definitely going to F2P for a while

@hovsep56 14 дней назад

if you play this game as a persona game then you will have a very fun time, the things you do outside the combat like maintaining the shop talk to random npcs, find random events around the street, etc. is such a vibe.

@geoforce6228 15 дней назад

It's the most stylish yet the most old-school game out of all hoyo games. It's a perfect combination of modern and retro. But the core of the game is actually quite old school, I think young gamers will more likely find it boring. I personally really enjoy the game, including the tv system, I like it more than open world exploration. ZZZ and GBF Relink gives me very similar kind of satisfaction both in terms of combat and other areas. Both are easy-to-pick-up action combats (feels great just smashing but hard to master), while also having lots of traditional jrpg elements.

@Hronika-kw5pl 14 дней назад

I'm soon-to-be 21 but I am still enjoying the game a lot so far because I'm into retro concept and yes, whatever people say but I really like TV and it is essential imo so it will be really bad because the story will have a big plot hole if they completely get rid of it

@khrow83 14 дней назад

Can agree. Old gamer here, 41, been gaming since I was 7 on the NES. This game feels like that golden era of jrpgs during the ps2 days, minus the stupid amount of hours grinding just to survive boss fights. As an adult that amount of grinding has become a turn off when games have it, where as in my 20's I loved it. The fact the combat in this game is as laid back as it is and is so story driven is why I am really enjoying it. Hoyoverse does really great at story telling. Which is something most other gacha games seem to really lack.

@upset306 14 дней назад

i also prefer this to open world exploration

@ToastySNXZ 13 дней назад

OH YEAH THAT MAKES SENSE. Someone like me, an old time Phantasy Star and God Eaters player, love ZZZ too. I guess the love and hate are slowly making more sense to me now.

@geoforce6228 12 дней назад

@@khrow83 absolutely agree. I turning 30 soon I think the game hits different for millennials. For me it's like eating some food which tastes just like my childhood's favorite stack but with a fancier packaging and better texture.

@insanecurity 15 дней назад

ZZZ is not the type of game I will be grinding or logging in daily. I’ll play it for the story when I feel like it. The FOMO is super low in my opinion and it reminds me more of games like Hi-Fi Rush which I really liked. With so many gachas with the same old recipe to them I actually enjoy the variety we are getting.

@nguyenchidung7 15 дней назад

And it also helps that every character feels really polished. Before starting the game, they could show me the complete rooster of 1.0 and I couldn't tell which are A or S rank or even limited

@kyotheman69 14 дней назад

this how people should treat this game, for me there isn't anything urgent to get through this game, take it at your own pace, current end game isn't that interesting personally. If you are type like Xlice u shouldn't be playing this, combat is there but its not amazing you want more engaging combat PGR or Wuwa exists which more caters to it.

@_mako 14 дней назад

this is how i feel as a husbando enthusiast

@Tiasung 12 дней назад

@@nguyenchidung7 That's because the quality of the character designs is unironically mid. Most of them lack the aura of a ''special character''. Yes, they are super polished. But also mediocre and uninspired. Different for the sake of being different, and as a result they lack a design that is strong enough in its own right. However the models animations are really well done and the cutscene animations even more amazing. As a result combined with the polish, people seem to be fine with the actual designs not being very good. I see problems with this in the future tho. As top comment says, FOMO is super low.. which happens when characters dont appeal enough.

@Tiasung 12 дней назад

@@_mako In a rare instance, its the same for waifu enjoyers. The characters just arent very visually appealing. (not enough to spend money or a lot of time on)

@natsound5492 15 дней назад

Finally, an actual review from a person trying to interpret their own thoughts. The ironic thing about ZZZ: Everyone thinks it’s heavily coded for zoomers when it’s actually the game they made most for boomers. I’m old enough to have grown up with RPGs where all the “yapping” was just called “the story” and integral to the experience instead of shunned. From the jump, from vibes and feel alone… ZZZ is easily the most well constructed gacha ever created. It is bespoke for an era before the brainrot and I believe a lot of people probably quietly adore it.

@yebat1984 14 дней назад

Actually true. When it came out I got blindsided by all the hate dogpiling when I thought it was the most polished and soulful gacha I've ever played yet. And then I looked at what their complaints actually was and realized it's just the zero-attention span, cutscene-skipping, no-investment-beyond-an-hour players that were just complaining. Guess slow paced games are just a dying breed, and so are people of patience ((

@joshbrosh6626 14 дней назад

@@yebat1984 i blame tiktok for ruining peoples atention spam especially kids theese days Ima sound like an old person but back in my days we used to watch 2 hour long videos of people playing games

@_mako 14 дней назад

tbf, both genshin and HSR are filled to the brim with unskippable "yapping", especially in the side quests. zzz isnt doing anything different in that regard.

@bradysullivan7120 14 дней назад

Seriously I saw one dude list one of his top complaints as "too many cutscenes". And I was just sitting there like "My man if all you want is a game with good combat then play something AAA like DMC, and if you just want to stare at the anime girls then the porn is free." I have been absolutely ADORING all the actual conversations and interactions. Makes the characters feel like actual characters instead of one-note gimmicks. Heard people making the same complaints about Star Rails most recent arc and the plot having "too much plot" without enough random combat encounters and was similarly confused.

@ludensecho1959 14 дней назад

@@_mako have you played the game for more than hour? the side quests are literally just 5 sentences and then you bounce off 💀

@faireststar 14 дней назад

I hear a lot of people complain about the TV system but for me TV system is also another huge part into world building, and I've enjoyed diving into each of the exploration stages so far. I hope Hoyo keeps this up in the future stories for ZZZ too.

@Jaxv3r 14 дней назад

Man I'm starting to dislike the tv system, kinda kills me this is how I get my story.

@snowflak6173 14 дней назад

the tv part literally make me Zzz (its good but less enganging)

@ludensecho1959 13 дней назад

@@Jaxv3r you do dive into combat though? if it was open-world then it wouldn't be so special anymore. I agree there should be more overworld exposure, but I'm all for the TV system to stay

@akialter 13 дней назад

As a Steins;Gate fan, CRT TVs are very aesthetical choice. Also, they have some interesting mini games once you progress further. I'm totally cool with the TV systems. But admit that it's not everyone cup of tea

@flamezforthegamez1056 13 дней назад

The TV system is pretty fun when you have more free-range control, but when its just designed to get you from point A to point B, its quite a drag. I loved the TV exploration commission where you play Plants vs Zombies or bomberman. I think it just needs to be adjusted to be less so its in moderation rather than in abundance. Could be a good segway between Ralyl commission type stages we could have in its place.

@notennui 15 дней назад

This one was a slow burn for me. I went into the game so extremely disinterested, but I kept playing in discord calls with friends and as I progressed it grew on me. The story/animation/character personality/etc. made me WANT to slow down and take it all in. It hasn’t taken the place of HSR or WuWa in my heart, but it found a spot with time.

@UzumakiD_luffy 15 дней назад

Ain’t no one can gaslight me into believing that the combat is not fun… I actually unlocked 2 of the endgame content which is like SU in HSR and Abyss in Genshin and it is a lot of fun for me… The parry and dodge mechanic in this game gives me a strange satisfaction that I have never experience before! Yeah WuWa also has that but I never felt satisfied! ZZZ feels like an ACTUAL anime game with a unique combat with a good story

@ft.jbryce 15 дней назад

Bruh same. The sound of parry and connecting attack. Really satisfying.😊

@UzumakiD_luffy 15 дней назад

@@ft.jbryce and the fact that each character has its own parry animation makes this even more satisfying

@itsafruit2989 15 дней назад

The combat gives me fighting game serotonin It's not about the difficulty It's about doing sick combos and cancels Gives me Power Rangers battle for the grid

@dungeonmaster0656 15 дней назад

Everytime you do a perfect parry it feels like you’re hitting someone with a metal pipe Prob really painful but f*cking satisfying

@megatbasyarullah4859 15 дней назад

Ehh sounds like a typical hoyo bias to me. Its just a combination of hi3, pgr and wuwa but with ober the top animations imo. Tho i do agree, with the level of quality with its animations and story its as close to a playable anime you can get.

@jayjaytheplane 15 дней назад

I enjoy the gameplay and story. I am also going hyper casually through because it is my lowest effort gacha at the moment. I appreciate the honest thoughts from somebody who was far more invested in progress than I am. Thanks for your thoughts!

@gryph-jn7bp 14 дней назад

After played and grinded genshin for 2 years+, I already grew tired of it and quit (story draggy as hell, isnt our main objective is to find our other siblings instead mostly side stories, not to mention genshin stingy af). Tried wuwa not too long ago, gameplay is nice but the story and dialogue sometimes make no sense, pacing kinda all over the place for me(not sure for western audiences but i played in chinese sub)... ZZZ so far is pretty good I would say prob around 7/10 for me, I enjoy the vibe of the MCs and the story, the animations and comic style story telling is nice. I curious how the story will progress.

@arthUnderwood 15 дней назад

Before anything else, I love how you present your take on this, such a mature analysis, that's why I love your content Tbh I like having games that offer different things to me, I'm the challenging side. Combat is so different than Genshin and I like it, I min max on Genshin and I'm going to try personal skill on ZZZ, not about getting the stronger characters but beating everything with the minimum investment possible I'm still waiting for endgame but so far I'm liking it so far

@AGONY6085 15 дней назад

If you played honkai impact 3rd , it's like 50+ hours of story building and connections with characters of only a single chapter. After that the cutscenes that are usually in the end are so impactful that you can't help but cry and feel their pain or smile seeing their happiness

@joshuasumido4876 15 дней назад

NEVER LET YOU GO!

@mpregfics 15 дней назад

Thats like 50 hours of edging

@skilletossky1536 15 дней назад

ITS SO HI3 CODED I LOVE IT 😭😭

@garethcf1016 15 дней назад

@@mpregficswell, it builds up the shorts and characters otherwise ur gonna get kinda confused or not get the best experienxe

@kkj_-ry4kt 15 дней назад

it took me 9 chapters and a lot of reading the manga to make me invest in it... tbh it's kinda worth it For ZZZ I'm already hooked on it at Miyabi's first animation, I'm really looking forward to it

@xSveto40397 15 дней назад

I agree that the story building in ZZZ is quite different from most gacha games and that probably is it's selling point. No game ever needs to be rushed as that leads to one's burn out and can deter players from continuing... Imo taking the time to immerse oneself and playing casually is the way to go in every game. Comment below here if anyone agrees with me!

@nguyenchidung7 15 дней назад

I'm really glad that ZZZ took a different approach. After a couple of years deep diving into gacha games I felt really tired of the current formular. Hence, I couldn't really get into newer titles like wuwa or reverse. Even though I really like the aesthetic. For me ZZZ leans more towards a traditional game, where the focus is more on interacting with the world. And I'm glad the devs spent so much time to enrich the world in a way that it feels rewarding if you pay attention, closely. In a sense, it's reminding me of the early days of genshin where as getting new characters and farming artifacts wasn't that important to me

@Teresa-nv7pz 13 дней назад

I like how the actual gameplay is set in stages but I don’t see myself getting into it so much because of having to build characters, after playing genshin impact it just seems like a chore now to build characters in another game and I just want to play a game where I can just use the characters and not worry about having to optimise who I use that much. I don’t mind building characters in games but starting from 0 in a game really takes out the enjoyment for me

@belcomet27 15 дней назад

00:00 Overview 06:29 Gameplay Footage 15:21 Final Thoughts

@avneri4839 14 дней назад

afaik you can change how the character attacks with various inputs. Some fighting game players have discovered interesting movesets that you can adapt depending on the situation, and maybe even juggle opponents in the air

@chillhour6155 15 дней назад

the gameplay feels like little cherry on top like treat before biting into that moist piece of cutscene character cake

@colorlessguard 14 дней назад

i appreciate your honesty mr xlice!! for me personally i’m still on the fence ab the game, i’ve only finished the 1st chapter tho so i still wanna play a bit more to better inform my thoughts/opinions on ZZZ… but my initial impressions are that the animations/art is GORGEOUS and i love how strong and diverse the personalities of all the characters have been! also i want to give a special shout out to the devs for right out the gate offering an easy and hard mode option for certain combat situations! i love it when a game acknowledges that some players are looking for more of a challenge while others are more focused on the story and therefore aren’t punished by the game for not mastering the combat right away lol

@yaemiko9969 15 дней назад

I'm now a gacha player that can read. Like I've been reading so much it's no longer a bad thing, I swear even the side quest feels like reading a manga.

@pro-toman 15 дней назад

How did you do it??

@M4SKED2001 15 дней назад

I've been enjoying the combat even if it's a little on the confusing side since it has fighting game tech, but it feels nice at the same time, something on the fresher side of what Hoyo has done One of the gripes however as usual with Hoyo games is their fucking tutorials, that shit takes too long and they need to let us move past the 10 hour handholding session

@T8-TR 15 дней назад

The amount of style, polish and effort put into every little thing in ZZZ is crazy. As much as mfers want to say MHY is lazy w/ Genshin, it's clear that they put a lot of love into it. Yet, somehow, ZZZ has that shit cranked to 11. It FEELS like an artsy film vs Genshin's quality MCU movie. Yeah, Genshin will hit a far wider audience, and it IS pretty great, but ZZZ has more purpose behind it and is way more comfortable with being a bit divisive. I dislike a lot of the designs in the game, yet I still can't hate them because they are so defined. It makes almost all 3D gacha units (2D gacha having an upper hand still because of art vs animated 3D models) look borderline generic. EDIT: The subject matter also seems more grounded, with avenues left open for darker routes. Genshin, while capable of darker tones, tends to shy away from more real subject matters that make it lack grit imo.

@timeless1882 14 дней назад

What? Genshin does talk about darker subjects, Neuvilette story mission literally talk about discrimination and suicide. There was always a bit darker subjects in Genshin, you just have to actually read.

@robinj4286 14 дней назад

@@timeless1882 Yeah Genshin is a lot darker than is it is perceived since traveler committed multiple genocides and other illegal activities across the map.

@Tiasung 12 дней назад

I can hate the character designs. I think its untruthful to talk about the quality and effort put into the game and ignore how lazy (cheap art) designed the characters are. Having very excellent model animation that makes them very expressive and polished, doesnt change that. Imagine if we had this level of model animation except with Genshin, HSR or HI3 (that one before Elysian realm arc ended and the quality dropped hard) character designs. To me its just a colossal wasted opportunity.

@Bllssxfull 14 дней назад

For me personally the story has been amazing so far. Its so charming and has a decent mystery and loving thr world building. It surprised me how much im liking it. Hopefully the story gets even better in the future.

@jsh2168 15 дней назад

What i still don‘t understand are the Chain Attacks. I know that the Points that show up on the left on my screen indicate that a chain attack is available, but i can never trigger it when i want, it just triggers itself after some normal attacks and E Attacks…Can someone tell me how that works and how i can decide when to Chain Attack?

@Aeikon 15 дней назад

Sorry. I was wrong. Didn't realize that's what chain attacks are. It's the purple bar under the enemy's health bar. Get it to 100 and hit them with a heavy. It only triggers if the enemy is still alive but if your triggering hit kills them, you'll just chain to a different enemy.

@kamicokrolock 14 дней назад

I'm still trying to learn all the specific terms but basically chain attacks trigger when you fill up that bottom bar and "break" (for lack of the proper term) the enemy with a heavy attack, giving you a dps window. How long your chain attack is depends on the type of enemy you are facing. Broken common foes will trigger a chain to the next character. Broken elites will trigger a chain for the next two and bosses will trigger a chain for all three (but make sure you pick the Bangboo for that third switch as you'll get them AND your last unit in line). Having a stun character on your team will make triggering a chain attacks faster. The points, or "decibels", on the left are for your ultimate and it is shared among your teammates so choose wisely. Chain attacks also help recover decibels.

@Winchestersammy11 14 дней назад

Tbh, I feel like this game is over-hated too much. I have this stupid habit of only investing in 5-star characters and not 4-star ones. This actually made the early game 100% more fun for me, and gave me the “challenge” that most people wanted (the green dude with the sword and shield could two-shot me). However, I am aware that the scaling is fricked, because even on Challenge mode, I can brute-force past the levels (with 3 stars/orbs or whatever you call them) with my under-invested 4-star characters (albeit having a hard-ish time). So yes… I can see why most people are complaining about the difficulty. The TV segments are FINE (for me hehe). Some of the puzzles were actually clever. The problem is that, unlike in Genshin where most of these puzzles are optional, the TV screen puzzles were IMPOSED on the players (most of whom were NOT expecting a puzzle game). The story is good, but I do have to agree that it takes many detours to get a single point through. Overall, I still cannot put this game down. Right now, the combat is incredibly satisfying for me (two of my characters are lvl 1; challenge mode; already in the lvl 16 requirement stages; I know how wrong this sounds, but I fine-tuned the difficulty for myself, I guess???)

@shadowncg8803 14 дней назад

I love the gameplay, the characters, the different mechanics and character interactions it makes the game more fun to play

@ludensecho1959 15 дней назад

to me, the people who are finding reasons to hate the game instead of saying it's just not their cup of tea are ass. it's a niche game. it's not designed to appeal to the masses as much as Genshin does but I'm here for it. it's honestly a breath of fresh air

@mischarowe 15 дней назад

Yeah I'm enjoying it as a slow player, myself. :)

@HanzorRaphael 15 дней назад

To me, the people who are finding reasons to defend the game by saying its "niche" and not because people can just objectively see what's wrong about it, are ass. It's 100% designed for the masses, even more so than Genshin; thus the visual design, accessibility (very, very easy), and (mostly) skippable story. A breathe of fresh air is what it's not. If you think Hoyoverse would make something that's "niche" you are sorely mistaken and a fool, or a white knight.

@Don_Akane89 15 дней назад

I swear mfs never rly tried to play other games/genre of games other than genshin/wuwa & open world. There are literally games like Darkest Dungeon, Digimon World 2 & the older Shin Megami Tensei games out there that have the similar TV format ZZZ has & those too have their own audience. Doesn't mean they're bad games. I'd understand & agree that combat before your first ever rally commission is too easy, and it takes quite a long time to get that point where its difficult enough to start feeling fun, but thats more so an issue with the game's difficulty progression & not so much the game's entire combat experience, unlike what these people make it out to be. I'm good with those people turning themselves away from the game though. Now we have less toxic people around the game.

@kamicokrolock 14 дней назад

Yeah it kinda drives me nuts. I realize Genshin was created with mass appeal and the causal player in mind but a large part of the Genshin community doesn't seem to know that. So whenever Hoyo releases a new game not tailored to them (or a game that isn't "more difficult Genshin") it's a crime in their eyes. Like, I don't really like Starrails gameplay and ZZZ aesthetics are not my thing but that doesn't make them bad, they are really well crafted games! It just makes them not ideal for me. But heck, I still enjoy them (I am absolutely in love with playing Nekomata and her specific dodge mechanic!). It makes Genshin much more enjoyable when I can take a break and do something a little different.

@mischarowe 14 дней назад

@@Don_Akane89 Well said.

@ender9857 14 дней назад

I actually would like to play this game but sadly I don’t have enough storage to download the full game

@Kai-jy9zm 14 дней назад

but the combat is deeper than genshins 😭 theres combos and optimals and inputs that arent even listed on the move list. Theres a whole move list!! it's so unfort to see this take on the combat

@ephin6301 14 дней назад

I fine ZZZ to be the perfect game to play AFTER playing other gachas (in my case Wuwa). I feel like I can do my stuff on Wuwa, then chill on ZZZ, progress through story, etc. at any pace without feeling stressed as if im behind which I usually always experience regarding gachas

@Claritywindow 7 дней назад

My biggest facepalm moment is forgetting the square existed and so for like 5 days I just did dailies and used my energy on some discs and.

@JoLoAn135 14 дней назад

The amount of combat gets better at the end because of the endgame, where it is combat focused. If zzz cant decrease the amount of tv exposure for story and commissions, maybe increasing the instances of combat might be better.

@Ethos711 14 дней назад

If ZZZ was a single purchase, buy-to-play game it would be an all time great. It will undoubtedly make more money as a gacha, but it would have been a better game if it wasn't. I am having fun, but I feel like it's being held back by the gacha format.

@nono_nopers 15 дней назад

Bro cooked the video really well. Great video. 👍

@_linggg 13 дней назад

appreciate your thoughts mr pp!!!! i totally agree on the tv exploration, and i'm more of a plot-focused/worldbuilding kind of casual player so i personally enjoy the story A LOT and i think it's because somehow they made it really easy to follow along (could be the comics style and insane animation with minimal wording), but i defo see where you're coming from in terms of the combat playstyle. overall it's still a refreshing game for me so i'll still play too :>

@sponge563 14 дней назад

Thank you so much for your thoughtful insights. I appreciate this new variation on a gacha

@nekochen 14 дней назад

Those camera angle in each cutscenes! I think Hoyo should make a separate studio and start making anime lol

@devinstolar9247 14 дней назад

It actually reminded me of Persona 5 for some reason even though they are fairly vastly different games.

@tentenlazaro 13 дней назад

Their gameplay reminds me of modes in Arknights which is integrated series where you move forward in the game and gain buffs and debuffs and you'll also encounter combat modes.

@Mr.Sam1216 14 дней назад

One thing I like is how low the spec requirement

@KAI14138 14 дней назад

I gonna die bc your oc is just soo cute!😭

@mbe102 13 дней назад

:O, that girl with the sword, thats 2B's voice actor! Dang, this gameplay feels very Platinum/NeiR: Automata/MGS: Rising/Meets Persona Vibe. This is SICK :O

@telesbleach 14 дней назад

i played a bit at launch and i plan to play again in the future, but i dont have time for it right now so i will wait when theres more story content and my time is less restricted, but overall good game i would say

@MegaMrASD 14 дней назад

3:31 gacha games are literally, fundamentally designed to keep you from progressing trough the game too fast. It is still my belief that gacha guide creators either shouldn’t be making first impression videos on these games or giving ample ample warning like in this video that they are never playing these games as they are intended to be played and are completely cucking their game experience by skipping and spamming trough everything barely paying attention to anything happening. These are RPGs, they are about the characters and story, the combat is in basically every instance secondary to that, so if you only focused on the combat you are missing the part of the game that had the most work and effort put into it.

@nrwcoco 15 дней назад

I am not used to mr. pp youtube voice

@Julliangg 14 дней назад

Tbh I think everything people are critiquing about this game is fair and No one is wrong. Slow Pacing, TV system etc. But personally I'm enjoying my time playing it and wanna see it through, The further I get the more I enjoy it. I like A whole lot about the game more than I dislike.

@m.elhaj.98 15 дней назад

I don’t care if you are sponsored or not ,,, but ur take is one of the few objective takes going around and it’s very admirable… i hope u upload more frequently if u feel like it cuz u are an amazing content creator :)

@Sync0102 15 дней назад

Yeah the game makes us adjust for it not the game adjusting on its own

@hazeysgarden 14 дней назад

I agree with you completely and I had the same EXACT scenario with my GF as well. She LOVES ZZZ and I just think it’s decent. I don’t hate it, and I’ll probably keep playing it to give it a fair shake, but I was doing like you and trying to rush bc I just like building characters and maxing stuff out, but now I’m going to slow way down and just play it super casually.

@Katamosu 13 дней назад

I played all sorts of Gacha games and I couldn’t really stick to one for long. The one I’ve played the longest but got overwhelmed was Arknights. The second was Nikke, but this game changed it all for me since I don’t I have to get every character. I can go for the characters play style over their overall power. The story is pretty good for someone casual for me and reminds me an older style of game play.

@tishela1134 14 дней назад

It's a true game comic book experience. Nothing like it.

@yannlee7821 14 дней назад

This one of the fairest and most reasonable review of ZZZ I heard. And I thank you for that.

@darthvaperr4601 14 дней назад

Ngl this guy got a bit too much bias towards hoyoslop, hes prob a bit scared to step out of line, cuz he knows hoyo would strike his channel or sum.

@Hobbitfeet01 14 дней назад

I honestly was a bit worried till IL25, i really loved the world building and the voice acting but the fighting was a bit boring, when the Belebog Quest started the game changed and i also started to understand all the fighting mechanics over time. Now im IL31 and im totally hooked, i love the smoothness of fighting and what i love most is the choice u can make that on days where u want to be sweaty u can try new stuff and go hardcore and on days where u feel tired u can just easy button smash and do your dailys and good. TV system with it small puzzles is actually really fun also.

@Afro__Joe 12 дней назад

Coming from an older gacha game, this one is so refreshing, in love with the story so far, and the combat is just great. Already creating memorable moments, like having 2 of my agents down and my last one 1 hit from death, and dodging every attack while hammering the boss's butt to death.

@ShawnF6FHellcat 13 дней назад

Well... I may have finally been convinced to get ZZZ. It looks great, the voice acting sounds great, and the combat is like Genshin's aka not turn based encounter battles... but how will my GPU take it I wonder...

@xMusicFate 15 дней назад

that's why you're my goat xlice

@xsiciv 15 дней назад

I personally really enjoy the ZZZ combat system but it really depends on which character I play, the story really got me sucked in sometimes i even get excited like when fairy appeared, at first i didnt think id like it but after playing it ill try to make time for it alongside starrail

@user-s4g1qw5d74 15 дней назад

first wuwa then zzz i’m praying i still have the time to play more games, since both games are so good :sob:

@reece5634 12 дней назад

Might give it a go for a more casual gameplay

@howaitodesu7619 14 дней назад

I played for some time. At first it was cool and interesting but then it just became dull unfortunately I think that is not the game I personally would log in everyday...

@priyangshu2743 13 дней назад

Wuthering waves buddies ASSEMBLE!

@Jett125 14 дней назад

So are the tv's necessary for daily commissions?

@visi3910 14 дней назад

No.

@Jett125 14 дней назад

@@visi3910 cool. Thank you.

@Ryxerz 14 дней назад

The good thing about this game is that you can do the dailies in 2min then log off

@Jett125 13 дней назад

@@Ryxerz oh sik. I have played for bout half hour so far and run out of time. If the dailies are quick I'm down

@thanksyoutubefortakingmyhandle 13 дней назад

I played genshin when it released and stopped around the time where you get your own house in that little box. It got so overwhelming lol I told myself no more gacha's yain't gettin me

@comehome4226 13 дней назад

Damn a promotion video 😂

@zerefx1429 14 дней назад

my account lvl is 34 im still enjoying the game so much but i have to say the TV system is kinda repetitive although at the same time have verity of mini games in it , ngl the game itself is ez to me but still enjoying it so far

@Elysium04 15 дней назад

I like the game👍💯 Not the the TV thought 😂

@xdjojacs3677 15 дней назад

6 views in 47 seconds? Bro is reaching new heights of popularity

@NewtonSparetire 14 дней назад

Damn i might have to try it now

@mrkennam 14 дней назад

Agreed. Game became way better, more difficult when reaching late 20ish lvl 30. And therefore much more enjoyable. I actually lost one of the matches yesterday. So I am hoping the game will pick up. I'll stick with it for now.

@Niv_Touhou 15 дней назад

Billy's cake >> ZZZ haters 😈😈😈

@TenchiSawada 14 дней назад

The story and the characters got me hooked. IS wuwa combat more deeper? Yes. Does HSR have better/relaxed dailies? Yes. but the combat is responsive and satisfying to do. even if it is easy (for story missions). on the other hand, the story far outpaces many other stories in the gacha games. ALso, there hasn't been a single character i haven't liked in ZZZ. from the NPC to the playable, there's nuance and depth to these characters which I love and haven't seen.

@TheProswagonist 14 дней назад

ZZZ clearly takes inspiration from the persona games, and you don't blaze through those as fast as possible. The majority of your gameplay is spent messing around outside of combat and occasionally going into combat for a change of pace

@FrostelicGames 14 дней назад

Am I crazy wasn't this the game the game that was supposed to have an open city scape that you could pretty much spiderman through?

@animeholictops1225 14 дней назад

That's Project Mugen, which is by a totally different developer.

@FrostelicGames 14 дней назад

@@animeholictops1225 now I know lol is it out

@animeholictops1225 14 дней назад

@FrostelicGames No, it has not been released yet. Its probably still a good while away, there's hasn't even been any CBT's yet. So its definitely not going to release this year.

@FrostelicGames 14 дней назад

@@animeholictops1225 thanks for the info

@NatTwT1 13 дней назад

Wow this is the first video where there aren’t as many people hating it as people either liking it or just saying it’s not their cup of tea,peacefully

@sirthomasevangelion1258 13 дней назад

HOLY CRAP THIS GAME IS HYPE

@kranolive 15 дней назад

I think the combat is fun, not everything needs to be complicated to be fun. Look at elden ring, its just dodge and hit over and over again, Still super fun. Its all personal taste but i find it enjoyable and i also might be in the minority but i really enjoy the tv system. By no means is zzz my favorite gacha or perfect but i thouroughly enjoy my experience every day

@bachkhoi9450 15 дней назад

tbh, when it come to combat design. I think Sekiro has done it better. For some people the input delay kinda annoying.

@trupa9399 14 дней назад

I have not seen a community of CC switch so quick. It's almost comical. This isn't against you. You're not the only gatcha CC that says something along the lines of, It's actually good after initial impressions. All I can say is it isn't Genshin impact. And that's not a bad or a good thing. I enjoy both for what they are. They're different from all the other games under Hoyoverse. This game I believe is better in moderation. But aren't all gatchas supposed to be? Lol.

@user-wp1hu6fs3u 13 дней назад

I had pretty much the opposite experience, I figured I wouldn't like the game much because I assumed it would be mainly focused on the combat. Then when I saw how much effort they put into the story and world I immediately loved it 😂 But it's honestly the same for Genshin and HSR, if you are not a story person you aren't really going to like those games either

@marcuskane1040 12 дней назад

Much effort into story and world???? Ok, tell me then what is Hollow? How did the first one appear and why? What is with the moon? How and why were bangboos created? What about those furries like lycaon and bear? Were they always on this planet or not? MC's past? Reason why they are hackers? Why they have video store and how they become friends with everyone on 6th street as well as Cunning Hares?

@AylethsBlade 14 дней назад

My one frustration with zzz is that it is story focused/longer game sessions - while still having log in dailies unlike hsr with the weekly system for the new erudu fund system requiring small game sessions apart from the story Like it feels like its trying to be more like - i guess - a live service narrative based game - while still being modeled off of gacha game format standards. :/ but i dont have hours every day to play as they seem to want me to which is frustrating

@otakuwhat_ 15 дней назад

One thing I will give to hoyoverse is that they know how to do character work. A lot of their characters having any backstory (especially if good) is really important for me. Because playing a game where the characters have no soul or personality takes a lot of enjoyment out of the games for me. So props to hoyo for that

@talkingtakotaco8611 13 дней назад

I like zzz, i like the gameplay and tv system and the characters. The story, well i like the overarching story and world but the writing and dialouge could use some work in some spots imo. Overall i enjoy it.

@kanna2746 14 дней назад

Me when I have content creator brain and forget story is actually important this just showed all you cc’s are out of touch with the community now you’re seeing that and everyone is changing there tune

@kenarvinalipala1202 14 дней назад

Game fight is satisfying

@themeltingpot3266 14 дней назад

ZZZ isn’t my kind of game, but for the people who are interested I hope they enjoy it a lot. Thanks for the review Mr. Xlice 💜

@user-miraje 12 дней назад

I have seen many say the same, about how they play gachas games, but every time, it still leaves me baffle to hear people bluntly explain they're rushing to the end game. It's like... if someone wanted your opinion on their cooking, will you rush eating, without barely taking the time to taste anything? At least, it's the first time I'm seeing someone be honest about how rushing the game will make it less fun to play.

@pentapenta1600 15 дней назад

I like all of zzz's content but the game itself, the style is cool the animation is dope the characters are lively along with the music but the gameplay is just not my cup of tea

@mischarowe 15 дней назад

And I thank you for not hating on it like some comments in here. It's one thing to not be personally swayed by it, but another to crap on it. Personally, it took a bit for me to warm up to it and I can see why people might not like it. But I'm going to keep playing - funnily enough, I like the combat more than the story and I'm not normally concerned about one over the other. :)

@pentapenta1600 15 дней назад

@@mischarowe I was really really eager for its release cuz I loved pgr and wuwa. And as I said, I like every bit of content zzz has offered up until its launch so it was supposed to be a no brainer that I'd love it but I was sadly wrong, definitely will still stay for everything else but for now the gameplay for me personally is it

@mischarowe 15 дней назад

@@pentapenta1600 We're opposites then. I wasn't eager for zzz's release and I've long since grown tired of wuwa. What is pgr?

@pentapenta1600 15 дней назад

@@mischarowe punishing grey raven, its kurogame's other gacha game that is all about combat, you could say its what I expected from zzz to a degree

@seven_8434 14 дней назад

The combat in this game is like the opposite of Genshin's in my experience. Genshin has a very deep and complex combat system where you can really dive down into icd, gauage theory, and mathematically disect optimal builds and rotations. ZZZ on the other hand has simple combat on the surface but there are a ton of techs and mechanics you can abuse to optimize combat. It feels more like a fighting game in that sense where you have to find different combo routes with the moveset you're given. You can combine perfect dodging and switch countering, you can juggle enemies with Grace and Bangboo's and a ton of other stuff. Imo the ZZZ combat is the best of the current big gacha games, specifically the Calcharo and Yinlin team in WuWa is the only kind of combat that is equally interesting to me right now because it also requires a lot of mechanical skill and and game knowledge.

@mischarowe 15 дней назад

There's been a resounding "take your time and experience the game at your own pace" in the gacha community for a while now. Just need to pay attention to it. I know the content creator thing makes it a little different if you're the type to do build guides etc., but I would hate to see you grow to hate this game as a result. I like this game much more than I thought I would, too.

@Legendaryskyking 15 дней назад

Everything about the game is okay for me, except the tv system, i can't even stand 30 minutes on my monitor because of the tv systems, it gave me a headache, and everytime i want to continue the story i need to face the tv systems again, it kinda feels forced for me

@sofabored2150 13 дней назад

Reminds me of Tower of Fantasy a lot.

@scopeyui240 15 дней назад

I love this game and tv bc I play it slowly

@wanemarr 14 дней назад

Reactive gameplay is not inherently bad. Souls games are almost all reactive and no one questions their quality. I think the problem is that ZZZ needs to be more creative in it's combat design. As it stand , It's just hitting the enemy and hitting shift/space when the yellow flash appears. You're rarely even punished for missing your dodges/assists. If you lose , it's almost always because you're under leveled. there need to be more emphasis on learning core mechanics. The TV exploration is not bad as idea, but it also needs more creativity in it's implementation. This game has the potential to be great, but god knows mihoyo fumbled that ball before.

@aKraT12 14 дней назад

idk the only thing i dont like about the game is the camera or whatever system that is. You spend more time in a straight line in that mode than actually playing the game

@ratgirlsuu 14 дней назад

just a bit of feedback, i think the game audio was a little too loud and it was a little hard to hear you

@iloverice6784 13 дней назад

Blink if you're being held hostage cuz omg it feels like you're surgarcoating the game.

@mathisdutreuil7815 14 дней назад

I love this game so much! It litteraly zenless my zone to zero right in the spot! Unlike wuwa who did not even wuthering a bit of my waves...smh

@darthvaperr4601 14 дней назад

Typical kuro hater, always gotta being up wuwa or pgr🤡. Wuwa is "literally" an upgrade of wat 😴😴😴 is. And I've played 10hrs of zzz and actually almost went😴.

@kuorshunly4075 15 дней назад

the fact that they have video archive to revisit these animations if we missed, makes it so we can "speedrun" the game and come back later to look at those cutscenes later as a sort of anime series are so goodddd. Currently lvl 30 and it is getting a bit repetitive mostly cuz i skipped thru everything, but i cant wait to revisit these animations!