I Rate Your Absurd Tactics

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There are a lot of ways to win on Football Manager but some of the tactics we just looked at seem impossible, like there’s no way they actually work… but I kind of want to try it. The FM community has conjured up some inspiration as I take Tom and Clayts through a list of tactics that might just change the way you play the game forever. I rate this video 10/10.
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@gezblair 2 месяца назад

“What do you want your keeper to do Brian?” “Just be a keeper please”.😂

@simonwilliams567 2 месяца назад

i wish they were more Brian's, but it takes Brains to be a Brian.

@Jester-611 2 месяца назад

like brainey brian from horrid henry@@simonwilliams567

@TomFM 2 месяца назад

Brian Stewart for England Manager!

@brianbks02 2 месяца назад

I'll stick to Elgin Tom, but thanks for the glowing review! 🤣🤣

@TheVanpablo79 2 месяца назад

lol, Sven in FM

@ianrae1546 Месяц назад

Mike Bassett: England Manager. Was the first thing I thought of 😂when I

@Aldiyaz Месяц назад

@@brianbks02 FREEDOM! EYES ON THE BALL REF! THE GAME'S GONE SOFT! - Brexitball, probably

@tmmw1975 2 месяца назад

“Shape: Brian” killed me

@Martyr216 2 месяца назад

i am wearing headphones and had to hold in a very sincere chuckle at that.

@Aldiyaz Месяц назад

RULE BRITANNIA!

@Clayts 2 месяца назад

Brian

@brianbks02 2 месяца назад

Thanks Clayts, deeply appreciated. 🤣

@catpoofa 2 месяца назад

Top marks for not tryingggggg

@jhplayz298 2 месяца назад

Brian

@nemotoad9315 2 месяца назад

Shape: Brian

@Mythriak_ 2 месяца назад

You can hear the Guardiolas melting at the mere sight of him

@brianbks02 2 месяца назад

No no, I have called it "Brian Stewart - 4-4-2 Control Possession" on my save guys. It's a naming convention I've used for each of my tactics. (Manager Name) (Style). Thanks for the ratings guys, love it. 🤩

@LupusImmortalis 2 месяца назад

Game's not gone and you're proof of that. Well done sir! o7

@Isekaizen6466 2 месяца назад

Brian/10

@simplesimonhadapie 2 месяца назад

You have to appreciate simplicity and the Scottish lower leagues are super competitive. I played a 4-4-2 but with two advanced inside forwards with bonnyrigg rose and that was very successful and I also used a target forward of good height

@nemotoad9315 2 месяца назад

Brian.

@tjsheihk9820 2 месяца назад

You my friend are a man amongst men. Absolutely solid stuff mate

@kreesmobeeruun 2 месяца назад

The Brian tactic was a banger! Zealand mentioned that he could hear rule Britannia from that tactic really got me lmao lol.

@deanmcdougall5331 2 месяца назад

For a Scottish team with a Scottish manager? No thanks.

@brianbks02 2 месяца назад

@@deanmcdougall5331 Yeah, Zealand got that wrong! I'm more likely to be signing Flower of Scotland

@h3nder 2 месяца назад

It took me a moment to realize they loaded the tactics, instead of the saves, and I was surprised that everyone was signing the same players.

@markusdeux1192 2 месяца назад

Right? I don't know why it took me so long to work that out 😂

@Will-sl1iv 2 месяца назад

i was trying to work out why they were using van de ven as a winger in that first tactic for so long

@Nayyy_08 2 месяца назад

Player : Boss, We Got The Ball, What We Need To Do Now? Brian : Nah, Just Chill Out, We Good

@martynhunter6083 2 месяца назад

My God. The years of going to watch Airdrie play in the Scottish lower leagues. Just 2 teams playing 4-4-2 with long ball to a target man. Brought back some horrible memories.

@simplesimonhadapie 2 месяца назад

Scottish football still has that warrior brutality down the leagues 🤣

@Aldiyaz Месяц назад

@@simplesimonhadapieEYES ON THE BALL REF! THE GAME'S GONE SOFT!

@charlesfairs1427 2 месяца назад

Tom absolutely losing it at the end has sent me 😂

@franciscomarcelino1251 2 месяца назад

Brian gets what proper football is like. Get in lads

@brunoactis1104 Месяц назад

Proper geezer

@ianrae1546 Месяц назад

Brian definitely wears a flat cap whilst on the touch line 😂

@kliklaminaat 2 месяца назад

Everything about the last tactic is amazing

@SanFranFan30 2 месяца назад

The 4-1-4-1 tactic is basically Erik Ten Haag tactics.

@savaugee7322 2 месяца назад

Nah ten hag plays a 4-6 rn

@jafarsabbagh7914 2 месяца назад

Thats a lie he doesnt have a tactic

@KT-ki6gz 2 месяца назад

The 1 at the top being Rashford on the left with the instruction “Always be offside” 🤦‍♂️

@EpicRenegade777 2 месяца назад

@@KT-ki6gz fills mctominay and garnacho full of caffine and tell them to just go nuts

@laurynasbudinas4585 2 месяца назад

Actually that tactic is stolen from ZAZ (quick fire) with few minor tweaks

@jacka8792 2 месяца назад

Hi guys, Killnion here (the first tactic), thought I'd share some information It works very well (won premier league and on-course for champions league with Colchester when I go back to it), it was inspired by Pep at city as he uses this a variation similar to this in some games. It is also similar to Alonso's formation, tho I made this before this season so that's just by chance. Quite a few people was right with their interpretations such as the 4-man block of midfield, Liberio stepping up alongside dlp, etc. You need the right personal e.g. fast WCB, technical Liberio, high work-rate Wingers. I can't link the tactic in this comment so :( Honestly its so good for me so I hope people have fun ;) And thanks for using my pic as the thumbnail Z!

@umbertorobotti6735 2 месяца назад

Carlo Ancelotti's Milan was playing with this tactic, so called "xmas tree" and a couple of CL...

@jacka8792 2 месяца назад

@@umbertorobotti6735 Before my time but thanks for letting me know I'll check that out!

@umbertorobotti6735 2 месяца назад

don't make me feel old mate... 😅@@jacka8792

@emstett7488 2 месяца назад

just sad, that there are no links to the shown tacticts to have a look at it ingame yourself :(

@bentarbuck6161 2 месяца назад

We need a follow up were some of these get given 5 games and highlights are show and laughed at or praised

@simplesimonhadapie 2 месяца назад

This is something I would love to see. Even play them off against each other could be fun

@olitplays3523 2 месяца назад

i never thought I'd be almost crying laughing at a FM tactics video but that last one sent me

@cv_luka 2 месяца назад

From now on my answer to anything is simply Brian.

@kaizenFM 2 месяца назад

This was very wholesome, loved this guys. God bless you Brian.

@lunardancer6047 2 месяца назад

I remember Gung Ho. I think that goes FM07 or maybe earlier. Even back then it did the same thing where you'd switch to to it out of desperation at the end of a game you were losing and then nothing would happen.

@Mythriak_ 2 месяца назад

Gung-ho was the button you'd push when you were almost losing, then you'd be sure you'd lose.

@ravenshade266 2 месяца назад

brian

@jhplayz298 2 месяца назад

Brian

@ethanseldiakov7551 Месяц назад

Brian

@damonimpact01 2 месяца назад

Brian!!!! Well done. Good luck with your save out there. Everyone else in the video, great job and continue your journey on FM24.

@Joseph-gp2fq 2 месяца назад

The 4-1-4-1 is by far the best tactic seen on the channel. Its a 2-3-4-1 the IWB's are so overpowered doing 2 jobs at once, and sheer amount of goals those attackers score.

@RareNotorious 2 месяца назад

I just wanted to say I love this channel, been following for years at this point and gotta give some love I love seeing new videos pop up

@MrRokkit 2 месяца назад

This is soul-destroying!! When you do more of these _please_ try it out an add a clip or two.

@toby4784 2 месяца назад

Tom dying at “Shape: Brian” absolutely wrecked me man😭😭😭

@Derek-qu8qi 2 месяца назад

1:29 I made up this 3-2-4-1 tactic in FM07 or about then. It didn’t have the positional roles, but it was the same players positions. I was San Lorenzo in Argentina and they were gash. They had decent players in these positions but no good CMs, so I got creative to use what I had and it also covered all the weak areas (or red patches). I jumped between 2-1 and 1-2 in the front 3, and it worked because we went on a mad unbeaten run.

@andrewburgess3643 2 месяца назад

Great commentary, love the shirt Z. So much in fact that I’ve just ordered it to be delivered to Australia.

@danielfersbeanto7942 2 месяца назад

For the first tactic you can see 2 CM and 2 AM make the box midfielder. Winger on support will cover down the line and help in transition with Libero as the overload. That what I tought

@Harrison32413 2 месяца назад

Ahh wish I would have known about this. I created a tactic in my Ajax rebuild based on a Xabi Alonso style of play. Defends in a 5-3-2, but attacks in a 4-2-4. Plays some beautiful football!

@Nosceteipsum166 2 месяца назад

0:52 I made almost the same tactic inspired on Xabi Alonso's Leverkusen, but I use two CMs instead of two DMs and I have 1 winger and 1 wide midfielder. The libero is very, very, very important, basically the heart of the team. It's amazing to press the opposition. Sometimes I end games with 80% possession, and goals from counterpressing are frequent. You just need to be very careful with your setup, though. I won the Premier League and lost UCL final with that tactic.

@ii-xz9ui 2 месяца назад

i just play WCB with Libero all the time and its pretty defensively stable cause out of posession the libero just plays normally and if your WCBs are actually fast enough it just doesnt have any problems

@jpmachado_ 2 месяца назад

i love the dynamic of this video and also Brian

@Jasoncj099 2 месяца назад

The 4-2-2-2 is one of the best starting comps to start a new save in FM, its not gonna work in the long run but when starting with a bad team its really good

@HistoriadorGeek 2 месяца назад

In the first tactic, Endrick is playing in this exact position in this exact tactic in Palmeiras right now, and we just score 5x1 in regional cup. IT WORKS, IT JUST WORKS.

@BrasilianFury 2 месяца назад

Yes, it very much does. AVANTI PALESTRA!

@user-ib3hk7rq3n 2 месяца назад

2:45 - funnily enough I'm playing a 5-3-2 with wide centre backs and a Libero. Works most the time with my DM stepping back to fill that gap mentioned however good team can manipulate this gap so usually change the LB to a BPD or standard CB. Helps a lot in hard matches.

@sebzilla89 2 месяца назад

The point about the most interesting tactics coming from necessity is very true. For me that's why the first year of a save is often the most interesting, especially if you turn off first window transfer budgets. You get what you're given and have to make it work.

@StretfordEndGaz 2 месяца назад

first there was pepball, now its brian ball, even sean dyche is ringing him up

@EstariaValens 2 месяца назад

Brian/10 LOL

@davidgosden5443 2 месяца назад

Fun video - I think it would have been even better if you'd also all actually played a few games with each tactic, then compared notes afterwards to see if it played as you thought it would, but realise that's probably a lot more time consuming

@Kopakola732 2 месяца назад

The first tactic is similar to my 3-1-2-3-1 (FM calls it 3-3-3-1 DM Wide) and ive wanted to tweak it a little more for defense, maybe switching a M to a DM. But this one is intriguing. My only issue is wanting to stay away from those players that can only play one side. It's why i eliminated fullbacks. I am less strict with AML/R due to wanting some width but i like my backup to be able to play both

@wherestheoptoutoptionmfs 2 месяца назад

After hundreds, possibly thousands, of hours of tinkering on my tactics over several different careers (my favourite being taking Blyth Spartans from the bottom of the football league to being european champions), I've finally settled on my ultimate tactical set up...a kind of asymettrical 4-1-4-1, with two isomeric forms, which I'd dearly love to submit to your expert analysis but I've no idea how, as I play on the PS5. Nonetheless, it's insanely good, and I'm extremely proud of it :) Love your work, if I can call it that XD.

@adampatterson2682 2 месяца назад

im from Blyth, Croft Park is just down the road from where I live and work haha.

@ashr7307 2 месяца назад

1st tactic is my formation from my Huddersfield save, except I had 2 strikers and 1 AM. Absolutely dominated.

@hongki92 2 месяца назад

You guys should have tried out and played a game with the tactics!

@n0body550 2 месяца назад

Along the lines of what i commented, the “ratings” seem so arbitrary

@hongki92 2 месяца назад

@@n0body550 Oh sorry there man, I didn’t see your comment! Right after they rated the first tactic, I went to the comment section to write this comment

@schlongomcnugget9428 2 месяца назад

Clayts and Tom on this video goes hard, love the collab

@michaelfarrow5817 21 день назад

In CM 03/04, you could set the attacking intent of each player and override the team instructions so if you wanted any of the CM/RM/LM/LWB/RWBs to get up and down the field, you had to put them on Gung Ho with their arrow dragged one square backwards. Got me promoted out of the Championship with West Ham.

@brownie62 2 месяца назад

I just wanna say thank you Z. Yesterday I won the Champions League a third time within five years. Your videos helped me a lot. (I play with OGC Nice and I’m currently in preseason 2021/32 for anyone who’s wondering)

@paulathekoala1699 2 месяца назад

I used a similar 4141 but with a cm as a dlp and it worked great, it was good to see a similar tactic examined here 😊

@moseswilliams1576 2 месяца назад

I have a save with Aberdeen and am using a very similar 4-4-2 tactic. They've been doing very well. Unless you're playing with Celtic or Rangers a 4-4-2 will do well in a Scottish save.

@thechriscrowing 2 месяца назад

That last one was just perfection. Totally willing to believe 'Brian Stewart' is actually some Scottish lower league legend like Dick Campbell, living his best life on FM24.

@ianrae1546 Месяц назад

Dick Campbell and Terry Christie were the two managers that immediately popped into my mind when I saw Brian’s tactic 😂

@matthewvaughan8192 2 месяца назад

The ONLY way that first tactic works is if you put the DLP on Defence (ideally a pacey half-back,) or like you say, ditch the Libero - but I do love creating a good Libero system, which is why I know this doesn’t work. I’m not having that tactic works one bit. His sim is probably suffering from a classic case of Brain Drain where literally every player with good mentals and/or good attacker randomly all leave over a certain period, so no matter how much xG he concedes, no one in the league has the composure or finishing to punish him. Not a sustainable tactic at all.

@dislexyc 2 месяца назад

Well, if you think about the first tactic, the CBs and the GK make a diamond, perfect for creating passing lines to build up from the back

@oldjoe182 2 месяца назад

Feels like Z need to make some video about what is meta and what is not! They all talking so much about what is good THIS YEAR and what is not. I am confused on many details with all those previous tutorials in mind.

@christopherbuehl4373 2 месяца назад

Love that Forward Madison kit. Truly you are a man of culture.

@W417on 2 месяца назад

That 442 was missing all defenders to be no nonsense, thats a shame

@amethyphoenix 2 месяца назад

That would make it better defensively, yes, but Brian has the right idea with his 4-4-2, you can't deny the man that.

@Derek-qu8qi 2 месяца назад

11:47 I loved gung ho. Used whenever I was 3-0 down at half time. Usually with a change to 2-4-4 or 3-3-4 in the old games. Celtic came from 0-3 at ibrox for 3-3 and Partick thistle came from 0-4 to 4-4 at home to raith rovers.

@stefvalk7452 2 месяца назад

'Nothing silly lads.' 'I just want my goalkeeper to be a goalie.' 'Slow the pace down lads.' Tears in my eyes.

@cliffhamilton5075 2 месяца назад

i believe stinger did a video about half back with take more risks can pull some really nice build up passes if they have the right stats but that may of been for FM 23

@conky83 2 месяца назад

I remember "Gung ho". Maybe from FM2014 or earlier. Not 100% sure from where I saw and used it though.

@hugobatista9541 2 месяца назад

CM on Attack is still great. I have been using it to great results with Chaves in the Second and First Division of Portugal and then the Championship and Premier League with Conventry.

@Mythriak_ 2 месяца назад

Have played with 2WCB + Libero and can confirm: There's a HUGE gap in the middle of your defense, if your keeper is not Neuer or Allison, you'll have trouble, and even then, it will hurt you against very quick strickers. That said, if your team is good enough, you will probably score more than the other team. I fixed it by playing a BPD on cover or defense. Also, a Half-Back DM works amazingly with the 2WCBs.

@cynical-_-bunny7399 2 месяца назад

Everyone should be like Brian.

@Spahici 11 дней назад

Brian in the pre match interview when he’s asked what he’s gonna do for the team : “we’re gonna get the ball and put it in the net mate!”

@andrewtaylor6263 2 месяца назад

Get Brian on your videos 🙏🙏 We all want the life of Brian 😉

@thedemonscath 2 месяца назад

The main tactic I've been using, with slight variations on the roles, is the 4-1-4-1. I have yet to find a single save / team that it has not worked. It is dominating FM24! Straight up promotions all the time!

@simplesimonhadapie 2 месяца назад

The first is almost the same as mine but i use to dm's and twp wing backs and it's very solid. I also use a libero but to replace the volante when pushing forwards. I also would point out that with the players at the front the ball will go long from clearing and the libero will recycle the ball. The two wcb's dont go that wide depending on team position but i got Gibraltar side europa point to the champions league last 16 and Gibraltar to the worlds top 100 with donkeys

@pedroparker2743 2 месяца назад

Brian out of Ten. Brilliant.

@nicholasnugent1123 2 месяца назад

Ran a similar tactic to the ARSE 4141. I used a DLP instead of a DM , wingers on cut inside with one on attack and one on support, and an AP on support instead of AM. I won the seria A 4 times in a row with a europa league and 4 domestic cups at inter. In game when you use high pressing with 4141 like this the positional play overloads the opponent as soon as the ball is turned over.

@Davidbaratunk 2 месяца назад

Hi! I sent in that tactic, and you're totally right. The toels for the DM and the two AM's were set to that because of the players I had available, and because I wanted different roles, so that I could incorporate players with different skills. And yeah, I forgot to mention that a lot of goals come from the opponent losing the ball in the middle of the pitch (often because one of the AM's are tackling back) and then the attackers just go forward like a swarm. usually one player gets the ball down the wings and by that point you often have 4 players crashing the box.

@OverseerVizier 2 месяца назад

@@Davidbaratunk any link for this tactic?

@Davidbaratunk 2 месяца назад

@@OverseerVizierI haven't uploaded it anywhere, but I can if you'd like. It is actually fairly simple, as most of the info can be seen in this video. As others have said, the shape is a really good base, and then you just tinker with the roles

@Mrajs360 2 месяца назад

@@Davidbaratunk would be great if you could, or potentially just break down the specific roles/instructions you've given. Just trying to make my own mock up of this and I'm assuming everyone is like that SS and has close down more/tackle harder? It was the only way I could get the intensity that high lol

@OverseerVizier 2 месяца назад

@@Davidbaratunk if you can upload it please that'd be really helpful. I'm new to the game and a template to tinker with will help a bunch. thanks in advance!

@ollieduracell 2 месяца назад

As a Colchester fan, I think we need this formation to sort us out right now. Also, we need to sign Endrick on loan clearly

@SomPrince 2 месяца назад

Idea for the next video try some of these formations marking the lb using your winger with a high work rate helps shut down teams who cross alot

@tywinlannister2137 2 месяца назад

Brian is amazing, bring back the 4-4- DUCKING 2!!

@shrimp99991 2 месяца назад

I've run the 4-1-0-4-1 before, except with an RPM and two shadow strikers, it's an unstoppable formation at all levels. You can legitimately score 5 goals per game.

@jackharmeling7947 2 месяца назад

need to see a mustermann collab with his editing style. makes the best vids on fm for sureee

@georgikolev8700 2 месяца назад

1st one is actually used quite a lot by Pep (at some point of the game) last few years

@jxcobxw3557 2 месяца назад

Used a 433 striker-less formation this year and it’s acc incredible. SK got 24 clean-sheets and won the Italian league/ Cup and the UCL

@waynehewitt8206 2 месяца назад

Why do I think this is Tom and Clayts auditioning for the network game.

@W417on 2 месяца назад

I want a draft league. Games played/streamed every Saturday at 3pm to compete with soccer Saturday

@sandergaasbeek5978 2 месяца назад

Don't give me hope...

@CompletelyCr 2 месяца назад

Tom, Clayts, Z and Kev? Yes please.

@tabletbrothers3477 2 месяца назад

If you tell a player to "take more risks" that just means they'll put in more through balls

@DaMarrsBar 2 месяца назад

Zealand-TomFM collab? Fantastic!

@Thatguyinyourclass 2 месяца назад

4-4-2 reminds me of my school days. We only ever used a 4-4-2. Good ole days

@tonyguyan9559 2 месяца назад

Embrace the Brian! A tactic very much in my heart as I’m playing something similar in my AFC Crewe save and like Brian I’m clueless with tactics and I’ve no idea how’s it’s working as I’m as defensive and basic as that tactic with all my defenders and two DM’s on defend duty but for some reason I’m blowing teams away.

@bonesknowspod 2 месяца назад

That first one, I used to use something similar with James Ward Prowse and jack Wiltshire as the wingers playing on wide midfielder. But this was back in the day way before wide centre backs. Not sure how that would work

@nathanguillaume1247 2 месяца назад

I love seeing TomFM on here!

@lindogg9389 2 месяца назад

Would be nice to see games involving this tactic

@JohnnyRadovic85 2 месяца назад

Brian has bent the fabric of spacetime

@anardi7112 2 месяца назад

Claytmunity represent

@Steniiis 2 месяца назад

Manmarking opposition LB/RB with your wingers have been op for years.... it stops so much threat against you its insane.

@connieeverafter3029 2 месяца назад

That first system of the Harrier Jet absolutely demolishes two striker systems. Outnumbers them all over the pitch, two AM's can pin be used to pin good fullbacks and helped out with winger settings on the wide midfielders, Segundo Volante perfect for man to man presses against and is really solid defensively. Just don't play it against a 4141, you'll get cooked.

@TheRadPlayer 2 месяца назад

Bonus points to Brian for playing Elgin City.

@BoxinSquare_ 2 месяца назад

Great video guys . Hey Zealand why dont you try out older managers like championship manager 01/02 ? CM01/02 is the reason why i still play FM . Go Gung ho was "all out to score" and if i didn't score i said oh come on i was playing gung ho .. yeah good old days..

@ianluck9412 2 месяца назад

Brian/10 My new favorite rating for anything

@georgemccann9141 17 дней назад

I ended up with some weird formations and tactics due to managing very low tier teams and when the transfer windows closed I found myself without a player to fill positions I wanted and changed to fit the players available

@GenericZac 2 месяца назад

I love all the exotic tacitcs and a 442 named Brian got the highest score. I love this community.

@nickcaesar5833 2 месяца назад

That last tactic is godly

@JohnnyRadovic85 2 месяца назад

Z, Tom and Clayts in a video. This was a pleasant morning, thank you guys

@dasawindu 2 месяца назад

I can assure you 2 WCB with Libero in the middle works very well as long as you have at least one natural DM. I myself use 2 WCB (D), a Libero (D) and BWM (S).