My Uncle and Godmother ran the Tally Ho, in fact it was a Total Jazz pub till uncle Jim Delaney booked Eggs over Easy. My parents lived and worked there in the early 60's, in fact I was conceived at the Tally Ho!
My grandparents lived in a flat on the estate that was built right next to the Deuragon Arms and it's the first place my mother had an underage drink in the early 70s. It has tickled me that it was Kray owned, I always used to ask my Grandad if he ever knew the Krays and he said he didn't. I used to look out across the courtyard of the estate towards the pub in the early to mid 80s as a very young child, and I can remember seeing mohawked punks going in there. When I found out the Bonzos used to play there I nearly exploded. I miss the old East end, before the gentrification.
Great story and thanks for sharing it. The East End had its own mood back then but times change and it's probably all for the best. The days of outside toilets and desperate poverty are thankfully behind us. On a lighter note, thanks for such a great comment: please keep watching and commenting!
Interesting video. I booked the bands for the Water Rats in Kings Cross for about eight years in the 2000s. It was a great time for live music and it has a long history of live gigs going right back to the 60s when it was called the Pindar of Wakefield. I think you're right to say that bands playing in pubs goes back to folk pubs, especially the Irish tradition, but in some ways even the working men's clubs, especially in the North, were just pubs with live entertainment, and that goes back more than 100 years.
Totally agree. To show how old I am, the first gig I saw at the Water Rats was a music hall show (British Music Hall Society?) in about 1973 because a guy I worked for part time as a cleaner was performing!
In my mind, which is not always the most reliable source, pub rock is not just rock music in pubs. It has something to do with the prevailing mood towards larger venues, and ultimately stadium rock. Thinking of prog in particular, but mainstream album chart rock as well, R&B was something serious musicians had left behind in the 1960s. Pub rock defied this evolution, and reintroduced rhythm and blues to small sweaty venues from whence it had emerged.
Thanks girl commenting! Yes, I concentrate on the issue of what Pub Rock was (and what it wasn’t) in another video, but I don’t disagree with anything you say…
@@JimDriver Pub Rock that made its way to the weekly papers, as opposed to rock music in pubs, is a bit like folk music. Some folkies like to think of it as a continuous unbroken strand going back to the c17th. In reality folk was dead, killed by music hall and publishing houses. What we had was a folk revival. I would argue the R&B style music promoted by the NME and others as Pub Rock was a reaction to what was going on in the mainstream, which was the abandonment of simple 12 bar blues in favour of complexity, ornamentation and virtuosity. Doctor Feelgood were instantly recognisable as something popular music had lost, while being their own dangerous thing. They were the reappearance of something the music industry thought the public had grown out of. We can debate whether the influence of Pub Rock, Feelgood and ultimately Punk had any lasting effect of the business. People will point to obscure bands continuously playing Yardbirds style music in remote boozers since the 1960s like a lost tribe, in the same way they refer to folk royalty families sitting round the fire to play Lord Randal since the year dot. Pub Rock rattled a few cages for a while, was a assimilated by The Man, then it fell back like folk music to whatever dreamscape it emerged from, leaving rock music in pubs as its memorial. Just an opinion, like.
The Black Prince in Bexley.... The Badgers Mount...out past Orpington... The Tramshed in Woolwich... These all had Sabbath, Floyd, Hendrix, Stray, Groundhogs, etc
Yes, there were lots of pubs putting on music before May 3rd, 1971, but most of them were outside London proper. One of the most famous was the Toby Jug at Tolworth and I didn't really want to go too far out of the centre because the Pub Rock boom was centred within a few miles of the centre of London. Thanks for your comment and for your information: I might have to do another video about these mighty pubs of the 1960s…
My passion at the time was Sheffield United FC, still is. Music came and went. I suppose as my Catholicism faded my identification with the Blades cemented.
