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I rEVeal the SHOCKING COST of CHARGING an ELECTRIC CAR compared to PETROL & DIESEL! 

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I rEVeal the SHOCKING COST of CHARGING an ELECTRIC CAR compared to PETROL & DIESEL by travelling across the UK and stopping at various charging points on the Charging Infrastructure to see if charging an EV Electric Car is cheaper than a petrol or diesel car. We are constantly told that Electric Cars are cheaper than their equivalent Petrol and Diesel Counterparts, so let's find out if this is true. Are electric cars the future? Will the sale of petrol and diesel cars actually get banned in 2035 and if they do will it be more expensive for the motorist? Let's find out...
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@steves9753
@steves9753 11 месяцев назад
Interesting vlog Here are my results and the results are very interesting with Ionity and home being the cheapest and greatest mpg based on diesel prices. Hope the formatting looks ok. Charger £ KW p/kwh miles mpg eq Insta 10.10 13.4752 75 42 30.13 Ionity 5.18 17.28 30 53.74 75.16 porsce 7.21 13.31 54 41.39 41.59 Grid 15.14 21.95 69 68.26 32.66 Home 7.245 27.865 26 86.66 86.66 So electric can be cheaper than petrol/diesel if you charge wisely as there are not many cars that would get over 75 mpg unless its a hybrid. Great Vlog 👍
@TheMacMaster
@TheMacMaster 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant. Formatting is perfect too.
@davidk3729
@davidk3729 11 месяцев назад
But hybrids are only economic around town up to 30mph, (twenty mph in Wales). Petrol engine kicks on the open road, and averages about 36mpg overall. If that fire at Luton airport started with an ev (or possibly hybrid Range Rover) the future ev market may nosedive. Vauxhall workers at Ellesmere Port will feel the pinch.
@theoneandyt
@theoneandyt 11 месяцев назад
@@davidk3729 I have a hybrid Ioniq, the battery still kicks in and out at 70mph - it routinely gets 60mpg+ on a long motorway journey. Actually to be honest it's often a bit better than city driving, I think I'm a bit heavy footed! Assume you have a different experience with yours?
@claydoc1
@claydoc1 11 месяцев назад
@@davidk3729 not true mate. My RAV4 Hybrid does 5.0 L / 100 around town and 5.2 L / 100 on the Highway.
@FullFact548
@FullFact548 11 месяцев назад
There is no point in comparing charging costs unless you are comparing like for like vehicles. The closest comparable vehicle to a Porsche Taycan is the Panamera, which costs approx 26p per mile at average UK petrol price and more at motorway services prices. As the Taycan can average 3.5 miles to the kWh in the real world, you would have to pay 91p a kWh at the charger to be more expensive than the Panamera.
@stan_austin
@stan_austin 11 месяцев назад
The evangelists are just salty because they know they’ve been scammed and just can’t admit it….
@3dmotormaker
@3dmotormaker 11 месяцев назад
Not as salty as MacMaster though eh ! - lol
@patcorkindale4346
@patcorkindale4346 11 месяцев назад
And now insurance companies have started to refuse to insure them ,ferry companies won’t have them on board the list goes on and on they’re a liability.
@pstanyer1
@pstanyer1 11 месяцев назад
My flats won't let you park them in the underground carpark due to not being able to insure against fire
@FullFact548
@FullFact548 11 месяцев назад
Hysterical nonsense based on misinformation and scaremongering pushed by the oil lobby. I recently got a quote online for a Tesla Model 3, and numerous insurers offered me policies with no added restrictions because it was electric. The same goes for house insurance. There may be one or two outliers that don't, as there may be one or two ferry companies overreacting, but when you consider there are already numerous ferries using battery electric drive trains regularly used by EV owners, it's another false narrative. BEVs are far less likely to catch fire than ICEVs, and much publicised large car fires have been found not to have been caused by EVs, despite much speculation to the opposite. An expected 10 million BEVs and a further 4 million PHEVs will be sold this year, and millions of those will be shipped around the world on car carriers, yet the international union of marine insurers do not consider there is an additional risk. If they are not worried, why should you be?
@Wakeupfromyourslumberpeople
@Wakeupfromyourslumberpeople 11 месяцев назад
Lee I rekon your milk float deprecated £500 while making this video, I feel your pain pal...ill never buy one thanks for the heads up.
@SierraNovemberKilo
@SierraNovemberKilo 11 месяцев назад
So, you spent all day putting £50 of energy into your milk float adding just 160 miles to your range. (Excluding mileage done between charge points). You were fortunate it was a fine day. Do the same on a wet day, a windy day, a freezing day (that is, a more typical UK day). The only heat will be from the frayed tempers, frustrated arm flaying and foot stomping. On top of that, you're inevitably going to expand your waist with all those sugary snacks and carb loaded drinks. I think we've all got more important or life affirming things to do than minister vast amounts of time and energy to keep a means of transport - supposedly there to make life easier - on the road.
@sparky6996
@sparky6996 11 месяцев назад
Thats v8 fuel prices
@paulsmith1981
@paulsmith1981 11 месяцев назад
Batteries degenerate with every charge cycle. Therefore the cost per mile will continually creep up as the car ages. An old diesel will still do between 60 to 70 mph when it is 10 years old whereas an electric cars range will plummet.
@ThomasLee123
@ThomasLee123 11 месяцев назад
YOU MEAN MPG?
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx 11 месяцев назад
I was told the electricity comes free from the Electricity Pixie. And the minerals and metals are mined and smelted using Fairy Dust... And the car itself is made channeling the energy of Happy Thoughts. 😜🤪😝🤪😜
@mikebreen2890
@mikebreen2890 11 месяцев назад
At least 50 percent of UK electricity is renewable now. Most of the materials for batteries are recyclable and if you have issues with CARS being built, stop driving one. What part of the thousands of gallons of oil that you burn is recyclable and while my car gets cleaner every year, your car gets dirtier?
@specialkonacid6574
@specialkonacid6574 11 месяцев назад
It's 100% true
@Lockwoodbeck61
@Lockwoodbeck61 11 месяцев назад
I think if someone's been mugged into buying an ev abuse is the easiest way to hide their embarrassment .😂
@ADYDRURY1234
@ADYDRURY1234 11 месяцев назад
It's very rare we get 50% electric from renewables, the majority of the time it's less than 20%. National grid say around 35% then it also gets topped up with nuclear. That's how the government twist the statistics to make it look like over 50% they don't class nuclear as fossil fuels so they sneak it in with renewable figures to try to make it look better than it is. It's a load of bullshit with manipulated data. If EV's were good enough they wouldn't have to ban petrol and diesel cars. If they were good enough they wouldn't need to force people into them.
@iainwallace2618
@iainwallace2618 11 месяцев назад
Obviously😂
@keithsmith2692
@keithsmith2692 11 месяцев назад
43miles for 10 pound .my 1.6 Diesel does about 80 to 100miles on that
@Saxtoo
@Saxtoo 11 месяцев назад
MacMaster a question for you: If you charge up an EV, how long do they keep their charge? Because if I filled up my petrol car with 55Litres, but not use it for a month, I still have 55Litres in my tank. But do EVs immediately start to lose their charge if not used???
@Law24809905
@Law24809905 11 месяцев назад
I imagine so like most batteries. Especially in cold conditions.
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 11 месяцев назад
No. No issue unless someone has things like sentry mode enabled, keeps checking security cameras or has an app that keeps waking the car.
@MrLeadb1
@MrLeadb1 11 месяцев назад
@@djtaylorutube All batteries go flat over time.
@cameraman655
@cameraman655 11 месяцев назад
Batteries invariably run out, used or not.
@specialkonacid6574
@specialkonacid6574 11 месяцев назад
Batteries for cordless tools will lose charge when they are in the tool doing no work . I've found DeWalt are the worst for this issue...
@dangosypethau
@dangosypethau 11 месяцев назад
Your comment "All Tesla drivers are swingers" has just made my day!
@davalls6109
@davalls6109 11 месяцев назад
Do you think Viagra was invented for Tesla drivers.
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 11 месяцев назад
Why do you think a Tesla has an interior camera and dogging mode? Live streaming of course! 😅
@JAJL667
@JAJL667 11 месяцев назад
Lee, that fire at Luton airport has just taken another 10% off the value of your milk float. Doh!
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 11 месяцев назад
It was a DEISIEL
@barryrathbone
@barryrathbone 11 месяцев назад
RU-vid channel High Peak autos did an Audi e-tron test and he had major issues getting on to chargers be they full or simply not working!
@robinjones6999
@robinjones6999 11 месяцев назад
Good channel
@clivemcdermott7445
@clivemcdermott7445 11 месяцев назад
I had a Nissan Ariya on order after your video where your insurance quote was£3500!! I checked the insurance cost of the Ariya. The insurance quote was extortionate. I have cancelled the car and car charger installation. I’m gonna stick to ice cars.
@redleather100
@redleather100 11 месяцев назад
High peak autos is on your wavelength 😊
@Supraboyes
@Supraboyes 11 месяцев назад
@@tommytinkler1708 erm that's not the same as 3.5k really.
@st200ol
@st200ol 11 месяцев назад
I’ve got an Ariya it’s a great car, some owners have had lots of issues with theirs but mine so far has been faultless. Best car I’ve ever not owned (Motabilty) lease.
@senga21lisa
@senga21lisa 11 месяцев назад
​@@tommytinkler1708bit of a difference between a £100 annual increase and a £2800 annual increase. If ordinary people weren't already priced out of electric cars, they will be now.
@picobyte
@picobyte 11 месяцев назад
The fact for needing an 'app' to charge opposes me. The fact every charger needs another app is just totally insane!
@cynicaldodgyknees6248
@cynicaldodgyknees6248 11 месяцев назад
Octopus Energy have an App for the all of the Apps, allowing, in their words, 100's of chargers accessible with one app. It's called Eletroverse.
@terry13712
@terry13712 11 месяцев назад
I must be in the dark ages. What’s all this EV jargon oh I get it Exploding Vehical
@mikeandhev
@mikeandhev 11 месяцев назад
Externally Combustible Vehicle
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 11 месяцев назад
Like the DEISIEL at Luton airport then 😂
@stuartsharples9520
@stuartsharples9520 11 месяцев назад
Sorry Boss I had to charge my car that’s why I’m 3hrs late ..😂😅😂😢😮
@HFC786
@HFC786 11 месяцев назад
56 minute video isn’t a quick vlog!😅
@RickW..
@RickW.. 11 месяцев назад
@@john_dxI did 😂
@aitchpee5069
@aitchpee5069 11 месяцев назад
Imagine if petrol and deisel where the new technology claiming 30% cheaper purchase price , triple the range, 5 minute top up anywhere, holds its value better, etc it would be an easy sell !! You wouldn't need a mandate to sell them.
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 11 месяцев назад
Plus you wouldn't need to replace the engine and transmission every 8-10 years. You know if EV makers are offering an 8 year warranty they will be toast after ten years, warranties always run out before they are desperately needed.
@richardbartlett6932
@richardbartlett6932 11 месяцев назад
@@rbnhd1144 I have a hybrid and it's 11 years old. The batteries are rated at 89% good. BYD rate their batteries for 500,00 KM still so this "the batteries need to be replaced" is a nonsense.
@garyhill9723
@garyhill9723 11 месяцев назад
@@rbnhd1144 I must have been lucky with my MX5, it came with a 3 year warranty and I kept it for 8 years!
@Macca78
@Macca78 11 месяцев назад
I seen 3 people arguing and getting a bit heated at a service station bit of pushing going on and 2 police officers spotted it at the services and started walking over. So I shouted out my window behave yourself or all you 3 will be charged before your car is
@suecharnock9369
@suecharnock9369 11 месяцев назад
ha ha please say that is true and not a joke!
@Macca78
@Macca78 11 месяцев назад
@suecharnock9369 was in works van it is true 👍
@carloverzeletti6521
@carloverzeletti6521 9 месяцев назад
Did the compare. I converted everything to Australian Dollar and KM as I am in Australia. EV Mileage Prenium most expensive Petrol for my sports hatch $19.07 69.2KM $7.61 $9.78 86.48KM $9.51 $13.62 66.61KM $7.32 $28.60 109.85KM $12.08 $13.67 139.46KM $15.34 Most cases petrol cost approx half the cost of EV The only time petrol cost slightly more is in the last one Home Charging and only slightly so basically hardly any difference. What a complete disgrace EV. They should be banned from production and the CORRUPTION SHOULD STOP. I will NEVER EVER in my life own and EV or even an Automatic Car. A Manual transmission car is the only real car that keeps you alert and keeps your driving skills the way the should be. Thank You MacMaster for making us all aware of the complete BULLSHIT in the EV industry
@raa729
@raa729 9 месяцев назад
Its not bullshit, its a well orchestrated scam and grift. Even battery production worth 5 years of driving petrol pollution. Nobody asks about battery recycling issue, it will come up for sure and likely will add to a cost of a new vehicle too, increasing the lost value for the first owner. And then average grid electro production creates more pollution per mile than a petrol car. Those coal and gas firing plant don’t have the catalytic converters.
@billpaliwoda5012
@billpaliwoda5012 8 месяцев назад
You made some calculation errors. Remember, you need to compare apples to apples with the cars. He's driving a Porsche EV so the ICE equivalent would be the 911 turbo which averages 27km/gal (combined city/hwy) or 7km/litre. To go 70 km the 911 would need 10 litres at $3.4AUD/litre or $34AUD, so $15 cheaper for the same distance in the EV at the most expensive charger. I think you used the price for premium petrol in Australia instead of using the cost in the UK (1.8 pounds/litre in the UK or $3.4 AUD/L)
@billpaliwoda5012
@billpaliwoda5012 8 месяцев назад
@@raa729 No, the CO2 emissions from building an EV (including the battery) takes 12-15 months of driving to break even. After that it depends on the source of the electricity as to what the actual CO2 generation is (and fossil fuel electric plants produce less CO2 than the equivalent amount of energy used in an ICE car). BTW, power plants have CO2 scrubbers which significantly reduce CO2 output. As for battery recycling the batteries are broken down to the basic components and the metals are reused to make new batteries. However just because the battery is no longer suitable for a car doesn't mean it doesn't have other uses. Old batteries are reconditioned and put back into cars. Partially depleted batteries are often used in fork lifts (remember, the batteries are made up of modules), robots, storage batteries for solar homes (a battery not suitable for the car can still proved 50kWh or more which is enough to power a house for several days). So sorry to burst another false bubble for you.
@darrenwilson8042
@darrenwilson8042 11 месяцев назад
Oh no...... I have the wrong hole in my car for that diesel pump at the garage...... said no-one....never...ever
@suecharnock9369
@suecharnock9369 11 месяцев назад
take away the fire risk, the increased tyre wear and brake system - EV's do NOT have the charging infrastructure and, more importantly, the country is incapable of providing a fully EV moving population. oh, and the fact that, if you have an EV, you wont be able to insure your house, and the insurance for the car itself will be astronomical!
@kieranokeeffe1363
@kieranokeeffe1363 11 месяцев назад
Apart from all that Sue, what have the romans ever done for us lol Sorry it’s a Monty python reference Great points though
@Tube-Shots
@Tube-Shots 11 месяцев назад
Leave it parked at work 😮
@djtaylorutube
@djtaylorutube 11 месяцев назад
Brake system? What's that about?
@richardlytton
@richardlytton 11 месяцев назад
I prefer cash, and I don't have, or want, a smartphone.
@terieffo8
@terieffo8 11 месяцев назад
If you live in flats forget home charging.
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 11 месяцев назад
Then don't buy an electric car, contrary to what the government tells us petrol will not disappear as getting rid of them won't obviously work.
@7s29
@7s29 11 месяцев назад
​@Lookup2WakeupI'm sure not one would vandalise the cord.
@lewisdillon8524
@lewisdillon8524 11 месяцев назад
Why is that. because before you posted a comment that makes you look like a stupid idiot. You would have been aware of the government grants that cover the cost to install charging points for flats
@coconutBarnes
@coconutBarnes 11 месяцев назад
With all these 20mph speed limits, EV owners can take up DEVLIVERING MILK as a hobby? EVs should come with a FIRE-LADDER as standard equipment (to get out your upstairs bedroom when the EV thermal runaway 'feature' kicks in). 😂😂 #ICENotPoweredByCoal
@davalls6109
@davalls6109 11 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@Tube-Shots
@Tube-Shots 11 месяцев назад
The original milk float will do more miles per charge ❌.
@shamuso1596
@shamuso1596 11 месяцев назад
My 18 month opinion on vw I'd 4 1. Stated range is a over estimated gestimate- stated range 240 - in summer over 25 degrees you get this - November to March same full charge 180 miles. 2. Turn on heater rear windscreen and wipers and full charge in winter 120 miles. 3. Range anxiety - big draw back 4. Finding some were to charge - got about 6 apps on phone. I will be buying a plug in hybrid next - I've had 4 hybrids before - far superior, if it was not a company car I honestly would not buy a new one. They are ideal as a second small car ie less than 30 miles around town and cities with zones.
@brianmertens5954
@brianmertens5954 11 месяцев назад
dude , just take the loss and sell that POS , get a normal car
@Les-OZZYTHEOSCAR
@Les-OZZYTHEOSCAR 11 месяцев назад
My boss drives a Tesla. You've really opened my eyes to what kind of person he really is 😃
@thelord23784
@thelord23784 11 месяцев назад
If you keep pushing this subject The top evangelists will eventually Try to shut your channel down Which would be devastating Tread carefully
@escapetheratracenow9883
@escapetheratracenow9883 11 месяцев назад
Criticism of EVs and Net Zero will doubtless be termed as hate speech after the next election.
@lewisdillon8524
@lewisdillon8524 11 месяцев назад
There is no way this channel would be shut down. If you were not so gullible you would see all the lies that are told
@whocares264
@whocares264 11 месяцев назад
I my charge costs me 7.5 per kwh the equivalent in fossil terms to 400 miles per gallon...
@dy6682
@dy6682 11 месяцев назад
You have balls bro to take on the EV community! Good content.
@paulcadman3022
@paulcadman3022 11 месяцев назад
Electric cars and the complete and utter bollocks involved with them is mind blowing, the total inconvenience time wasting rigmarole is pointless when all said and done a car is or should be a convenient form of transportation
@paulcadman3022
@paulcadman3022 11 месяцев назад
My sentiments exactly mate
@howardjames1191
@howardjames1191 11 месяцев назад
Actually I watched all of this so you could do the maths and give the big reveal, disappointed !
@philsmith2518
@philsmith2518 10 месяцев назад
This electric car job has got to be the biggest con of the century, I was born with petrol, and will die with petrol, carry on the good work, Phil.
@Yorkmedia1
@Yorkmedia1 11 месяцев назад
What Lee is doing is proving that EVS are not fit for purpose it’s as simple has that great video Lee keep up the good work you’re getting the word out about how useless EVS are Lee
@carolkiteley9273
@carolkiteley9273 11 месяцев назад
Exactly,I don't understand why some people have a problem with the truth,if lea didn't have an ev fair enough,he has and is saying what the reality is of owning one,good on him I say.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 11 месяцев назад
What Lee is proving is that travelling salesman shouldn't have a Taycan as their vehicle . . .
@carolkiteley9273
@carolkiteley9273 11 месяцев назад
@oneeyedgirl617 what Lee is highlighting is the cost,the lack of charges,the time it takes to charge,anxiety of not finding a charger in time,price of a new battery,risk of setting on fire,the way they decrease in value,this is the truth.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 11 месяцев назад
@carolkiteley9273 He does it for clicks. To engage those who are anti ev (you) and those who have an EV and know they are nowhere near as bad as he makes out (me). All the anti EV press do the same. They misinform, and some things are downright false. Yes, they do not suit everyone (no driveway, daily long motorway driving) but they, and the infrastructure, will get better. And within a few years, they won't make ICE anymore
@garyhill9723
@garyhill9723 11 месяцев назад
Well my EV is absolutely fit for my purpose, be it local journeys, day trips of 100-180 miles or a few days driving around North York Moors. In 4000 miles so far I’ve not queued at a charger, nor failed to charge when I needed to. My monthly cost per mile has been between 1p and 7p depending how much public charging I’ve used, solar panels are great. The car is quiet and comfortable and even after a long journey I don’t feel tired. They may not suit everyone but to me they’re great.
@nicky_nike
@nicky_nike 11 месяцев назад
Insurance will be the death of EVs.
@kieranokeeffe1363
@kieranokeeffe1363 11 месяцев назад
One of your best Vlogs Lee, and you are totally entitled to your opinion so b*llox to the haters
@davetkd1
@davetkd1 11 месяцев назад
I'll stick with my td5 defender
@andyhoward1082
@andyhoward1082 11 месяцев назад
Perhaps the trolls are just embarrassed by their purchase and trying to justify their wrong choice of mode of transport.
@hendongooner7383
@hendongooner7383 11 месяцев назад
And also in order to preserve the EV's residual value - they have to praise them as much as possible so they can get as much as they can for their "Lemon" of a car.
@stanpritchard7436
@stanpritchard7436 11 месяцев назад
Electric cars are brilliant if you like spending most of your life at charging stations, or motorway service areas. living on a diet of coffee/ coke and snacks. which means you are probably unemployed, and if in work will soon be unemployed by the time you have wasted at charging points. EV's are certainly not the future no matter how much you dress them up.
@TrevM0nkey
@TrevM0nkey 11 месяцев назад
Matt at High Peak Autos posted a video yesterday, going on a 280 mile road trip in an Audi E-tron with an estimated range of 300 miles. On the way down he had to re-charge when he got to 9%. It cost £60 to fully charge and he got 200 miles out of it.... Pretty sure I used to get more than 200 miles from £60 in my 2005 3.0d X5.
@mikebreen2890
@mikebreen2890 11 месяцев назад
That would be really bad if we all used high priced rapid chargers on motorways all the time, but we don't.
@timmywilkes4500
@timmywilkes4500 11 месяцев назад
Costs me less than £8 to charge my nitro from home and does 260 miles in real world. In a petrol would cost about £25 to get 260 miles. So I'm finding electric cars alot cheaper
@TrevM0nkey
@TrevM0nkey 11 месяцев назад
i fail to see the relevance of you charging at home compared to somebody on a road trip and having to recharge.
@TrevM0nkey
@TrevM0nkey 11 месяцев назад
and if you need to charge on a road trip? do you use a rapid charge of wait hours?
@mikebreen2890
@mikebreen2890 11 месяцев назад
@@TrevM0nkeyDepends. I can wait hours when the charger is at my destination. If a rapid, the car is generally ready before I am.
@kerenicahn3820
@kerenicahn3820 11 месяцев назад
My time is worth more than the charge wait+the cost. Time to exit the totalitarian state of King and Klaus .
@Captain_Scarlet_SIG
@Captain_Scarlet_SIG 11 месяцев назад
I actually see an opportunity here for bringing back “Coaching Inn’s” we had these a hundred years ago so you could rest and recharge your horses overnight for the next leg of your journey and you could keep dry and warm in them 😂
@leeyoung9469
@leeyoung9469 11 месяцев назад
Electric cars just a huge con supposedly helping to save the planet. I’ve just bought a one owner BMW X3 2ltr. diesel. It’s a old 2007 model but previous owner was fastidious and spent a lot of money maintaining it. New engine 30,000 miles ago courtesy of BMW so like new. It’s good for another 10-years or more. A bargain at £5,000. So who’s doing more to save the planet?
@stephensalt6787
@stephensalt6787 11 месяцев назад
When you come to renew your home insurance they now ask if you have an EV and do you charge at home, result more expensive insurance.
@paulfrance6407
@paulfrance6407 11 месяцев назад
EV=Exploding vehicle
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 11 месяцев назад
LMAO you are ridiculous!!!!!! Well if you don't like them don't get one, period.
@mikebreen2890
@mikebreen2890 11 месяцев назад
Your ICE is at least 20 times more likely to catch fire, you sucker.
@TheShmikes
@TheShmikes 11 месяцев назад
There a ticking time bomb !!
@tobycolin6271
@tobycolin6271 11 месяцев назад
230 EV total loss fires in The past calendar year for less than 1 million cars. But if the ice figures were as costly the insurance premiums would be higher on ice. My Z4 is a tenth of the price that it will cost Lee to insure his Taycan £210 for me £3200 for Lee.
@adamcarter699
@adamcarter699 11 месяцев назад
Silly sausage
@mansfieldlad123
@mansfieldlad123 11 месяцев назад
Mr Macmaster you need to get rid of that pile of scrap or you are going to end up in a psychiatric unit there are plenty of nice petrol and diesel cars out there waiting for a new owner and that new owner is you save yourself anymore stress and do it now.
@davidhancock91
@davidhancock91 11 месяцев назад
I have a lovely Audi A6 Biturbo diesel. Once a month I fill it with 70litres. Takes five, minutes and costs $150. So the cost of a coffee per day. I have tons of power, very economical and no range anxiety. Not likely to burn the building down either 😅. Haha
@vulcanvoyager
@vulcanvoyager 11 месяцев назад
Hi Lee, to get an accurate comparison, try the old fashioned way. First thing you need to do is find out exactly how many miles you get per Kwh. The only accurate way to do this, is to fill to the brim i.e.100%, (just as you would in a petrol/diesel car). Zero your trip meter and when you next charge, again to 100% take a note of many miles you travelled and how many Kwh it took to charge to 100%. Zero the trip and repeat the process again and again to get anything like an accurate average, over a variety of driving conditions. Do not rely on manufactures' data or on-board computers.
@funguseater40
@funguseater40 11 месяцев назад
Mac if I was in your situation, I would 100% invest in a Thermos Flask for your Coffee. You'll save £100's of pounds a year ! 👌👍
@GW1957-SY
@GW1957-SY 11 месяцев назад
I totally agree with your distopian vision of our future Lee ,keep the faith!
@Wigthewoodbutcher..
@Wigthewoodbutcher.. 11 месяцев назад
74 pence per KWH what a rip off. when my home electricity is 29.35 pence per KWH with Scottish power. that's a rip off Iv'e got 23 solar panels fitted at home and in the summer the meter runs backwards. they now want me to send them pictures of both gas and electric meter readings as they think i'm bullshitting them about the readings. spot on lee. cheers.
@andrewmarsh3587
@andrewmarsh3587 11 месяцев назад
I drive a diesel transit 8 seater and on 40 quid I can get from Surrey to north wales and some of the way back why would anyone buy a ev
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 11 месяцев назад
Because that trip would cost me £10 😂
@richardbartlett6932
@richardbartlett6932 11 месяцев назад
why compare a diesel transit with a Porsche? Makes zero sense.. Mind you I guess you driving a taxi means you'll never get a Porsche so I guess you don't have a choice ! 😂
@robertowen6499
@robertowen6499 11 месяцев назад
My wife and I are elderly(Senior Citizens?) and from what we have seen of public chargers we would get wet and cold trying to use an E.V. using the equipment currently installed in most locations.
@fw0756
@fw0756 11 месяцев назад
Here , At present ev are being charged 2.5 to 3cents per klm travelled as this is to replace duty from petrol/ diesel which is approximately 45 cents per litre , it may well be higher now .Point being this ev tax will only rise as government will not like seeing their windfall tax on motorists being lost , EV cheaper than ice ? Trust any government not to raise this ev tax ? Not going to happen. Good honest review.🇦🇺👍
@rsomel6628
@rsomel6628 11 месяцев назад
Fuel costs for my diesel to do 300miles: £38.50 and 3mins fuel up time. Approx. 12.9p/mile. 12k miles: £1,500. I’m happy with this and have no anxiety, worry-free about finding charging bays and only 20 full tank visits in one year.
@AlanWilliams-su4bs
@AlanWilliams-su4bs 11 месяцев назад
You don’t care about the diesel emissions, then?
@DiscoDesW
@DiscoDesW 11 месяцев назад
£6.75 cost to do 300 miles, zero time to fuel up.
@ziggarillo
@ziggarillo 11 месяцев назад
I GOT PAID 34p to charge my citroën Ami with 46 miles of range.
@ziggarillo
@ziggarillo 11 месяцев назад
@@DiscoDesW I got paid 34p to charge my citroën Ami last night, admittedly only 46 miles of range, but cheaper than free.
@ant2312
@ant2312 11 месяцев назад
great, you can circle jerk with him@@ziggarillo
@whyyou679
@whyyou679 11 месяцев назад
Who has the time to mess around like this , waiting for a charger then waiting for the charge!! They are a waste of working time .
@malcolmbradshaw5749
@malcolmbradshaw5749 11 месяцев назад
Should of parked it at Luton Airport and claimed on insurance lol
@darrenbuckley2082
@darrenbuckley2082 11 месяцев назад
I wonder what the write off price would have been on a year old electric car, do they still use Glass guide ?
@st200ol
@st200ol 11 месяцев назад
Lee, Last night there was a big fire at Luton Airport car park. Nobody knows the cause yet but everyone will say EV's caused it. Perhaps we are better off without them after all. I started a thread on a popular web forum and that got locked, that is censorship IMHO. I'm sticking with my EV for now but perhaps my next car will be a petrol model as I'm not happy at the moment.
@TheMacMaster
@TheMacMaster 11 месяцев назад
I want out mine. These things are a danger in my opinion. I won't even let my kids in mine. I use Sarahs Diesel.
@geebee6737
@geebee6737 11 месяцев назад
A well known car vlogger recently did a road trip in an EV North to South and at one point during the vlog he managed a charge that cost him £60 for 200 miles. So that'd work out at £240.00 for 800 miles in a milk float compared to £85 for the same mileage in my dirty diesel. Cheaper to charge at home but I can't tow my house behind me 🤣 BMW reinventing the motor car , does this mean they'll now get indicators ? You can preach my friend but I fear this new generation have already been brainwashed 😡
@davalls6109
@davalls6109 11 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@Tube-Shots
@Tube-Shots 11 месяцев назад
They’ve been hypnotised 😵‍💫
@helennurse2472
@helennurse2472 11 месяцев назад
My husband works for bmw and his garage no longer take any electric cars on px! He get loads of people trying to offload their Tesla’s etc and they walk away in tears at the sheer amount of money they’ve lost since buying the ev 😂😂
@tpv59
@tpv59 11 месяцев назад
Please tell me sir, WHY is it called a, 'milk float'? Thank You and regards.
@geebee6737
@geebee6737 11 месяцев назад
@@tpv59 Google 60's electric milk floats , it's only taken them 60 years to turn them into a car 🤣
@carlconner1166
@carlconner1166 11 месяцев назад
Get rid of that mad car get a ice one and pay the mortgage off simples and credit cards
@grantnyenes3742
@grantnyenes3742 11 месяцев назад
As an EV owner, my experience using public fast chargers matches your own, utter frustration in a lot of cases. The problem is they are all “unmanned” and have multiple components from different vendors( eg the contactless reader ) uptime is not great, and they seem to take days to repair… gotta say, using Tesla supercharger, I’ve yet to find one that didn’t work perfectly- the difference here, every part of the charger, transformers etc all made and supported by a single supplier…We need to get our act together if we want EVs to work..
@debeeriz
@debeeriz 11 месяцев назад
ever since they came out evs have never been an economical choice as a private vehicle, but as a company vehicle you can write off a lot of the cost
@mikebreen2890
@mikebreen2890 11 месяцев назад
Absolute nonsense, I have an MG5 that you could obtain for about £16,000 and is a highly practical and dirt cheap to run car. A ExciTe version with a few miles could be £13,000.
@evostu7814
@evostu7814 11 месяцев назад
An EV is by far the best choice but only if you have your own driveway, my weekly mileage is around 200miles, that costs £3.50 using my octopus EV tariff, plus the car is always the perfect temperature & fully defrosted in winter when I get in it, also get over the air software updates & my only service is topping up the windscreen washers.
@mikebreen2890
@mikebreen2890 11 месяцев назад
@@evostu7814 Some people have other options such as charging at work, that's going to become far more common to the point of being expected. Basically, chargers where people park. Yup, you don't need to sell an EV to me, I was converted years ago. Speaking of windscreen washer top up - I knew there was something I needed to do, ta!
@wolfgangklein5549
@wolfgangklein5549 11 месяцев назад
Right!
@johnshaw8013
@johnshaw8013 11 месяцев назад
Wait till the government tell you how much charge you can have, and where you can go!!! And they will charge you a different kWh price to charge a car as apposed to running your tubble dryer! Thats what smart meters are all about, they know what is using the juice, and the price will vary by usage!
@rbnhd1144
@rbnhd1144 11 месяцев назад
That kinda happened in California, they slowed down the power available leaving people in the lurch.
@emty9668
@emty9668 11 месяцев назад
Let's hope the Luton airport car park fire wasn't started by an EV or else on top of high insurance costs, expensive charging points, massive depreciation they will be banned from car parks too.
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 11 месяцев назад
It was a DEISIEL
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 11 месяцев назад
Regardless of what vehicle started the fire, having EVs in the mix greatly accelerates the fire's uncontrollable propagation. Legislation needs to get ahead of that before the percentage of EVs turns every car park fire into a massive unmitigated disaster by how quickly battery fires can spread from one pack to the next or burn their way through the floor into the next level down. No matter what burnt first, parking garages need stronger sprinkler systems to prevent damage to structures by intense battery fires, cut down the heat to surroundings, tack down some of the toxic fumes and add more spacing between vehicles to slow down propagation.
@markfalshaw-gv9im
@markfalshaw-gv9im 11 месяцев назад
I watched that show were they mention you Lee omg what a gang of hand picked panel and audience it was that biased it was laughable mate 😊
@ianchalklen1047
@ianchalklen1047 11 месяцев назад
Hi Lee. I just watched “Highpeak Auto” on RU-vid. He borrowed a Audi Etron for a road trip. To summarise 1) public charging network is rubbish 2) car is to expensive (99k) and 3) depreciation is horrendous
@nigelalexander3746
@nigelalexander3746 11 месяцев назад
Why isn't the price advertised on a sign like petrol/diesel 🤷 How many products do you buy and you don't know the price of it before you buy it, 🤯 the price per kwh should be displayed at all points, crooked selling
@15bit62
@15bit62 11 месяцев назад
That's a damn good question. I have seen it in a couple of places in europe, but in general it isn't. More problematically, you can pay dramatically different rates at a given charger depending on which app you use to pay for the charge. Whilst i have an EV and like it a lot, i completely agree that the whole charging network setup is awful.
@ramjetrth
@ramjetrth 11 месяцев назад
Almost every major problem I've had with cars is with the electronics (and finding a mechanic who know how to handle them!). I can't imagine what it would be like if my car was fully electric.
@olias2k979
@olias2k979 11 месяцев назад
If I put £10 of petrol in my car I can get around 90 miles out of the amount. Plus my insurance doesnt cost thousands of pounds, and the MOT casts £42 a year oh and my car is ULEZ compliant too. And dont forget, driving an EV makes you feel absolutely SUPERIOR !!!!
@raa729
@raa729 9 месяцев назад
Dunno, I feel superior filling 85l of 100 octane int my v8 biturbo laughing at scrooges in EVs who will end up paying more anyway while having a bad experience along the way
@richardlytton
@richardlytton 11 месяцев назад
Will it work? Might it not work? How much might I be charged? I've never had any of those concerns, whilst filling up with petrol.
@tonytasker489
@tonytasker489 11 месяцев назад
EV drivers are swingers? You've just sold me on getting an EV. 😂
@Tube-Shots
@Tube-Shots 11 месяцев назад
Only Tesla are swingers
@15bit62
@15bit62 11 месяцев назад
Fast charging is for sure expensive. But most charging really is done at slow chargers, or at home. And that is a lot cheaper. The reason that commercial chargers are busy is cos there are nowhere near enough of them. Personally i only fast charge a few times a year - when i go away on vacations. Otherwise i never go near a fast charger, and pay much lower rates for energy.
@Tube-Shots
@Tube-Shots 11 месяцев назад
But your car has still lost a fortune in depreciation and you’ll need new batteries 🪫
@15bit62
@15bit62 11 месяцев назад
@@Tube-Shots Actually not. It’s still worth about 75% of what I paid for it 3 years ago. But that’s cos I don’t live in the uk, where car depreciation has always been crazy. And I have no expectations of needing to pay for batteries. The battery has an 8 year warranty, and I fully expect it will last beyond 10 years.
@kellyeye7224
@kellyeye7224 11 месяцев назад
People forget that the current fuel duty that all ICE vehicle drivers pay WILL have to be recovered by EV users at some point in the future. Using an EV is 'cheap' now but the future looks bleak. Road mileage charging here we come!
@FrankTimms-cs5hl
@FrankTimms-cs5hl 11 месяцев назад
Some places in the United States are raising registration fees to make up for lost revenue from EVs: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0mKkCdfGXsc.html
@vandamonium1731
@vandamonium1731 11 месяцев назад
i think the VED introduction next year will have ev owners crying
@mikebreen2890
@mikebreen2890 11 месяцев назад
@@vandamonium1731 Not at all, it's not unreasonable and has been expected for some time.
@vandamonium1731
@vandamonium1731 11 месяцев назад
@@mikebreen2890 oh look its the man whos never owned an ev! back to troll me again? if the first year ved is based on vehicle value and the second year it resumes normal service that will still make my road tax cheaper on my hybrid than an electric vehicle as mine has a c02 rating so my car is £0 and the all electrics will be £180 .... i think that fair to be honest considering they damage the road more than my car 🤣
@MargaretJennings-j1e
@MargaretJennings-j1e 11 месяцев назад
Wouldn’t have one, even if it came free with a box of cornflakes
@gerryparker7699
@gerryparker7699 11 месяцев назад
Never tried one I bet
@davidcampbell7209
@davidcampbell7209 11 месяцев назад
10£ diesel gives me about 120 miles and takes about 15 to 20 seconds to pump.
@crumbschief5628
@crumbschief5628 11 месяцев назад
£10 of electricity takes me about 8.5 seconds and gets me 433 miles.
@adamcarter699
@adamcarter699 11 месяцев назад
​@@crumbschief5628- I'm a Tesla fan boy but that comment is just daft.
@crumbschief5628
@crumbschief5628 11 месяцев назад
@@adamcarter699 So here's the maths: 3.7 miles per kWh 4.5 hours/night off peak @ 7.5p kWh 11kwh home charger £10 / £0.075 = 133kwh of charging. 133kwh / 11kw = 12 hours charging Button on dash to open charging port Distance between charging port and charger is 18 inches Takes me about 2.5 seconds to... Oh sorry typo.. 3 charges at 2.5 seconds is 7.5 seconds, but I also have to unplug 3 times.. that's 15 seconds... Standing around not 8.5 seconds really sorry but I do a lot of miles and love how much time the EV saves me.
@brucecrawford3800
@brucecrawford3800 11 месяцев назад
As a disabled person seeing you struggling with the cables and having to move to another charger because one didn't work, confirms to me that EV 's are not for me.
@Brian-nf6bt
@Brian-nf6bt 11 месяцев назад
Well EV cars are crazy as you found out your car is worth way less than you paid for it,and insurance is now ramping up,and given the fires in EV cars which I suspect will include the Luton fire given the fire service was there very quickly and yet the whole multi story car park is burnt out,and of course the time taken to charge EV cars when you travel are all against EV and people are just not buying them.
@clivelittle831
@clivelittle831 11 месяцев назад
Interesting but a lot of repetition in the presentation; 20 min contrent stretched to nearly an hour,
@metalworker007
@metalworker007 11 месяцев назад
Any one trust their mobiles enough to use them to pay for things --- i don't
@msjcars2317
@msjcars2317 11 месяцев назад
I’ll keep my diesel car I think 👍👌😂😃🚗
@RickW..
@RickW.. 11 месяцев назад
Me too
@Christiane069
@Christiane069 11 месяцев назад
Yea! EVs are a major scam. At best.
@squirrelecureuil6085
@squirrelecureuil6085 11 месяцев назад
Is there no consumer protection law in UK ? Not showing the price you will pay on the charger's screen is a joke.
@ianrobinson254
@ianrobinson254 11 месяцев назад
Noticed at these charging points wot will people do if they are towing a caravan block all the roads just a thought
@no1be4me2
@no1be4me2 11 месяцев назад
Now the cold weather is on our doorstep watch your range of mileage drop drastically...
@csorgb05
@csorgb05 11 месяцев назад
The one expense that EV promoters NEVER discuss is Time. Time is money. How much is your time worth? A gasoline car takes a VERY short amount of time to fill the tank. Whereas the EV takes literal hours. Thats time out of your day that could have been used for something more productive.
@androcoulton
@androcoulton 11 месяцев назад
I am in a band, I've just driven up to Newcastle on Tyne from Derby, but I had to a wait for a band member to come to me from the south, then pick up 2 members in Sheffield so making a round trip of 374 miles at a cost of £80 in diesel plus we had to have one short stop for lunch each way. Not bad for a 2011 Renault Trafic with 5 people and group gear. Bands do not have the time to waste spending valuable travelling time charging EVs. Tours don't always mean travelling short distances between gigs, the worst was Ilfracombe to Bolton for the next day's gig!!! It took over 6 hours with queues on M5 and M6. For us EVs are not viable just on time alone.
@richardsheppard5881
@richardsheppard5881 11 месяцев назад
Not sure if you heard about Luton airport , they said quickly it was a diesel car that caught fire but actually it was a EV electric car 🔥
@davepearson3992
@davepearson3992 11 месяцев назад
Was a hybrid apparently
@olly7248
@olly7248 11 месяцев назад
00:07 “I have quick VLOG for you”… just under an hour 👍🏻🤦🏻‍♂️
@benaldridge2887
@benaldridge2887 11 месяцев назад
Mate, love your vids, and I live in Perth, west Coast Aus. There is no way, that electric cars will work in Aus, especially in WA. You leave the most isolated city in the world, and for example, head north. Next biggest town, Geraldton, 4 n a bit hours away, and think 4 charging places along the way, now that Geraldton. I guess you guys may of heard of Broome, again for example, major tourist spot, just a casual, 2045 kms away, 22 hours, but INLAND, the quick way. No charging stations, or maybe 1. So hey , as long as you don’t want to go anywhere in Perth, I guess, get one. OTHERWISE?😊
@msjcars2317
@msjcars2317 11 месяцев назад
Yes it’s all free and all the leccy is produced by 100 percent green lekky. Bar humbug
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser 11 месяцев назад
Looks like EVs are great if you've got nothing else to do with your time other than stand about looking at trees and listening to birds singing. If you need to get somewhere urgently, it seems you need to set out the day before and take a tent with you. £10 for 43 miles. My Citroën C4 diesel uses 4 litres per 100 Kms. Diesel is about £1.66 in UK so £10 would buy me 6 litres, enough for 150 Kms (about 93 miles). Looks like my C4 wins it. Even at £2 a litre I'd still get 125 Kms/ 75 miles.
@peetsnort
@peetsnort 11 месяцев назад
My 13 year old audi A3 diesel gets 650 miles on 55 litres
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 11 месяцев назад
My EV gets me 250 miles for £6 From home charging and if I use the public ones it's still cheaper than my petrol car by about 30-50 quid. And if you really don't have time to charge 10 to 30 mins then I guess you need to get your priorities right in life and stop missing out on so much as you rush around and speed off.
@gerryparker7699
@gerryparker7699 11 месяцев назад
And how often do you do 650 miles? Average millage per day in uk is 20 miles. Loads of clickbait but little thinking.
@richardbartlett6932
@richardbartlett6932 11 месяцев назад
Just as well you drive shitty cars because you can't afford a Porsche to compare like for like..😂
@brandonfromlondonuk3484
@brandonfromlondonuk3484 11 месяцев назад
@@davedevonlad7402 why do you ev evanglists watch these videos ? do you not realise just how silly you look
@chrisaris8756
@chrisaris8756 11 месяцев назад
My local pub has 3 ionity chargers. I often go there to use an Amazon locker and I have to laugh at these poor muppets sitting in their cars for an hour or so looking miserable while the hopeless thing charges! That BMW guy was a bit over enthusiastic- my wife had a new BMW a couple of years ago and it was a disaster and the staff unbelievably arrogant Never again.
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 11 месяцев назад
Even funnier when someone who isn't charging their car parks in front of the charger.
@chrisaris8756
@chrisaris8756 11 месяцев назад
Often been tempted to do that!!
@dazgarratt
@dazgarratt 11 месяцев назад
Your worried about scratching your car with the charging cable but didn’t you have a cat sat on the bonnet while on your x wife’s driveway on a recent video? 😂
@terry13712
@terry13712 11 месяцев назад
Not to mention the hot cups of coffee before getting in the car
@terry13712
@terry13712 11 месяцев назад
On the roof I meant to add
@Pher1954
@Pher1954 11 месяцев назад
I think your insurance is going up even more after Luton Airport
@garywebster6453
@garywebster6453 11 месяцев назад
It was a landrover discovery diesel. Video of it on fire
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 11 месяцев назад
Yep it was a diesel.
@carlsturges6048
@carlsturges6048 11 месяцев назад
Range Rover diesel, from a firefighter mate who was there.
@Pher1954
@Pher1954 11 месяцев назад
@@carlsturges6048 Still wont stop the insurance going up though will it.
@Wee_Langside
@Wee_Langside 11 месяцев назад
Have you read that in the near future the government is going to at a 26p per kWh to the cost of charging as a replacement for lost Excise Duty and VAT on petrol?
@kola100
@kola100 11 месяцев назад
I wonder if the guys who come and fix the chargers drive ev’s 🤔
@regbarnard2866
@regbarnard2866 11 месяцев назад
I have seen a video of a technician fixing a charger station, he drove a diesel Transit.
@monkynuts1261
@monkynuts1261 11 месяцев назад
No,I bet not
@johnmcconville6055
@johnmcconville6055 11 месяцев назад
Charge Place Scotland charger technicians have EVs.
@iancollier1197
@iancollier1197 11 месяцев назад
Think we'll stick with our reliant robin,0 to ,60 in three days, onwards albeit slowly
@crumbschief5628
@crumbschief5628 11 месяцев назад
Octopus fitted my home charger, all on ev's. When you think about it, they probably get mates rates!😂😂
@boomer6617
@boomer6617 11 месяцев назад
Audi A6 2.0 diesel, £75 to get 540 miles, I’ll stick with this thanks 👍👍
@deansh8506
@deansh8506 11 месяцев назад
Well done. I get 3750 miles in my EV for £75.
@boomer6617
@boomer6617 11 месяцев назад
@@deansh8506😂😂😂😂😂
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 11 месяцев назад
@@deansh8506 don’t confuse him. I claimed I got an equivalent 318mpg charging at home with my EV and some sceptic asked for the maths. I gave him it, and never heard anything back.
@francismarshall2465
@francismarshall2465 11 месяцев назад
I have free supercharging on the tesla network of chargers (50%of my charging) and 7p per hour kwh charging at home. On average I pay 2p per mile for my charging
@garycoldron704
@garycoldron704 11 месяцев назад
You tuber High peak autos has had similar findings to you , not enough chargers , frustration at trying to find chargers that work …. In one video he trials an Audi EV and he wasn’t that impressed ….👍
@nowayjose1853
@nowayjose1853 11 месяцев назад
The UK Edwardian electricity infrastructure cannot cope with existing needs let alone car chargers in every street
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