A 10 min refuel per customer vs just installing a ton of cheap, ez fast chargers that'll only add 5 mins(today! 800volt architecture and beyond is on the way) but can serve more people at once..no chance, no chance. Hydrogen has had plenty of time and has failed for commuter use, Mirai owners can be found begging online for an accident to total their car and get them out of their contracts
Hydrogen-powered vehicles have their place, but consumer vehicles aren’t a good application of the technology. Commercial vehicles, like garbage trucks and public transit buses would be far more forgiving platforms. 1.) These vehicles are large enough to integrate the fuel cells (tanks) without drastically reducing the cabin’s internal space. 2.) The fuel stack (engine) doesn’t need to generate the kind of horsepower a personal vehicle is expected to have. They stop frequently and torque is far more important for hauling the kind of payload a large commercial vehicle is expected to carry. 3.) Commercial vehicles that service a single municipality can refuel at a depot, whereas personal vehicles require a network of refueling stations. As for the environmental impact of hydrogen fuel, it’s not as ecologically friendly as most people think. The two processes that make large-scale fuel production are steam-methane reformation and electrolysis. Steam-methane reformation is a process which uses heat to cause a catalytic reaction to transform methane gas into syngas, a mixture of hydrogen and carbon monoxide. You’re transforming one hydrocarbon into another. Electrolysis is a process in which high-voltage electricity is used to split the molecular bonds of water. Generating that power usually comes through means that aren’t environmentally friendly.
Yup, hydrogen really seems like the way forward. Batteries are too expensive to replace, have unethical supply chains, and still use coal power sources in the end.
@@zim777these hydrogen tanks have expiry date. Not only that, fuel cell requires platinum, much more exotic and expensive than any battery chemistry. To top it all off, fuel cell vehicle also need batteries.
Wtf, my motorcycle makes more than that. And that motor is pushing a car🤣🤣 how the heck does it get up to speed fast enough to get onto the highway? (All hypothetical from here) Please tell me you’re not that person who is going 40 mph when you get on the highway because that’s so dangerous a big rig can slam into the back of you. that lane on the side of the highway to get is on is meant to speed up and be close to the speed of traffic.
@benjaminrobinson3842 indeed. Electrics went through the growing pains and I'm hoping HFCs get to go through it too. They're the true engine of the future, electrics only belong in transport vehicles for the torque.
@@efekanuyguner6513 Refill in 3-5 minutes while electric cars fastest 30min. On a trip where you can't precharge at home that's 25 more minutes at least with pure electric. On longer trips where you need to refill/charge at least 3 times it's 15min vs 1 hour and 15 min. Hydrogen tanks will also be cheaper to replace if needed vs lithium battery packs.
@@flygod. The problem is how negative he portrayed the brand. Toyotas been getting hit with hit pieces on purposes because they aren't following the global agenda of going full electric and are the only company willing to explore other options. What should be a wise decision not to throw all your eggs in one basket is now fuel for 'cancel culture' AKA the corporation/military overlords to shame the #1 car brand back into rank and file.
Lol someone probably paid him to make this talk poorly about it. Hydrogen cars are not there yet for everyone. But they can be a valuable piece to the green energy puzzle in the future
For reference, there’s 130,000 public fast chargers in America. As of September 2022, there were 54 publicly accessible hydrogen refueling stations in the US, 53 of which were located in California, with one in Hawaii. 💀💀💀
Don't be a hater.. I rather get a hydrogen then electric.. Hopefully in a few years I will be ready, for now, I am enjoying my gasoline power car 😁😁😁😁😁.
2nd generation. The Mirai line is older than the model 3/y programs and those cars outsell this five hundred to one despite being more recent and younger.
This isn’t new. It’s the second generation and Honda has a second generation hydrogen fuel cell car as well. GM also ran a hydrogen program in the mid 00s. Toyota and Honda are the only manufactures that sell their hydrogen cars to the masses.
This is a rather unappealing first step, I just hope it doesn't fail for same reasons that the original electric cars from the early 20th century failed. We won't get better versions if nobody buys this one or nobody invests in the notoriously finicky hydrogen infrastructure.
he's mocking it going "it's much cleaner for the environment but that's about it" and thus, he has missed the entire point. I'd love one of those knowing it actually helps.
But in this era you honestly have so much resource you really shouldn’t drop anything until is figured out. this is going to take a hit they don’t need.
The Mirai first went on sale in 2015.... Since then the Tesla Model 3 and BYD Seal have become global best sellers and Hydrogen is STILL limited California and select locations in Europe and Asia. It's clear this is a fluke and Toyota risks falling behind if they don't adapt fast.
@@hex1233bro toyota is owns half of the hybrid industry and electric because they make the parts bmw is using there parts too so no they are pretty much just fucking around rn💀
@@josephgarcia4302 Toyota owns half the hybrid industry, which will almost certainly be dead in 10 years. Hybrids are just gas cars with a tiny battery. You should see the EV they make. It is competing for worst car of the year.
Lol, hydrogen makes perfect sense! The design of the interior space is the bad part, also it doesn't have a normal transmission is a 1 speed like a cvt and what's the point of having a fast car if you go the speed limit anyways?
@@ronindebeatrice we can use better materials to build tanks stronger and store at higher BAR. We have to drastically increase in the 700BAR recommended now.
@@SoulKingBKactually when you buy your electric vehicle there is a clause you sign off to in fine print that you could get sent to cobalt mines and life as a slave if you are not using the car correctly: I am the slave master there
@@Richard-dz4pm the difference is the quantity. It was already a know problem before EV’s prevalence, but you need so much more to make a Tesla battery than a Samsung phone battery.
@@mohammedsalimahmed5230 That is not correct. Kerb weight is ~1900kg Max load capacity is ~550kg Which brings us to gross weight of ~2,45t. Please note that kerb weight is the weight of vehicle with all equipment installed and fluids loaded, without passengers or cargo. Also, with over 330nm of torque and 182hp this 1900kg car is perfectly capable piece of machinery. My BMW has kerb weight of 1800kg and with it's 184hp I've never felt slow on the road. Y'all must've grown up driving Porches and Lambos.
@@OhioBahn440 cleaner, but is it still considered air if it has no oxygen? Isn't it just emitting purified nitrogen at that point? It's clean, but it's a stretch to call it air.
Japan went down the hydrogen route as a strategic choice with govt support instead of electricity. They chose wrong, and are trying to switch to electrification now. It's why there are several hydrogen concepts from Japan and very few from anywhere else.
Yeah bro this car is totally meant to take u and ur 4 other coworkers from ur regular old 9-5 5 days a week job and not just an experimental vehicle that’s utilizing something completely different in order to be able to run because it’s meant to stand as a precursor to hopefully a new age of more environmentally friendly transportation 😭😭💀💀😭😭💀
Tbh there's a bunch of cars that are glorified 2 seaters that sell. What's puzzling about the Mirai is that it's not a crossover platform that would afford adequate room.
Yeah, it's not. This is the 2nd gen too. Both the 1st and 2nd are more of a prototype anyways. Toyota stopped production of it a while ago. I believe Honda and Hyundai also sold a hydrogen car, but only in California, Japan, and Korea (?) for a limited time.
I like the tech just not the execution. Too much practicality taken away. Makes it significantly less competitive. I love the idea but most consumers could care less if it’s gas, electric, hydrogen, or fart powered. They just want it to make sense & this doesn’t in this current form.
@@forrestsautoreviewsofficial honesty the best policy. They gave you the car to review, not boast about it🤷🏽♂️ Make a better car, and you won’t get shitted on😂
Bought a hydrogen car two years ago for under $2000, it was brand new. after driving it and needing fuel found out why it was so cheap. owner lived near me on the bottom side of SC, and the fuel station is located just under NC and driving back you have about 10 miles before having to drive back to fill up. been sitting in a garage using it as a hot box car for friends in NC.
They’re only paying for the first three years because there’s no Hydrogen Stations anywhere 😂😂 unless you live in California, you’re pretty much screwed.
it makes sense, nothing borns with the best form, just let that be improved. fuel cars were born with the speed 8 kmph and 3 hp with extremely low amount of torque with a massive engine. now it is way better than before. can’t we just let them improve this so this could be our future?
There is zero cobalt being used here. Most batteries are LFP, which is mostly iron and about 3-7% lithium. The only things that still use colbalt are small lithium-ion batteries for smartphones.
Refining gasoline requires cobalt as a catalyst. yet nobody seemed to care about it. it only became a talking point when talking about EV's. And as mentioned battery chemistries exist that don't use cobalt.
@@TheCountess666 ok well when you guys quit buying batteries from China that is using great road initiative to takeover Africa, then I'll believe you. Until then, hydrogen is the preferred non cruel and non Sino dependent solution.
@@tentacionndlovu6343 Everyone is aware of the lithium mines. Oil extraction does just as bad of things and worse. Lithium is at least recyclable. Also they're already releasing battery EVs that use sodium as their ion metal and no cobalt. Batteries are, in fact, saving the planet.
@@joshbridges8410so where is the infrastructure then? If I'm not mistaken only a few such hydrogen stations are out there in the US might be California, if there would be more stations manufacturers would add smaller tanks. Because right now to get somewhere you need to fill full tank and to go back you need to do the same
@@01iverQueen hydrogen infrastructure is non existent because it cost a LOT of money to put up a hydrogen fuel station and maintain it to serve not a lot of people. Instead of spending $1.5 million to put up a single hydrogen station, why not put 30 level 3 EV fast chargers instead?
I do think that hydrogen powered cars do satisfy both fields, they are clean, they don’t have a giant battery full of lithium that one imperfection will fry you like bread in a toaster. This would work well in a body style of a truck where there is more room to implement these hydrogen tanks but I do not think that a car is suitable for the amount they want to fit in, if they wish to make less space on the interior I am sure they can come up with something by reshaping the tanks to be more adaptive to the space needed inside the car. Gas has been our go to for many, many years but if we are to be forced to change I’d rather hydrogen power over an ev in the longrun. Hydrogen power can be improved in cars as a fuel and I am completely on board with not having the car be 2x heavier because of a huge cobalt and lithium battery.
@@theblue_hatter4829yeah, instead they have ultra high pressure tanks all around you. They are also closer to 40-60% efficient in reality. Hydrogen generation is not an efficient process. Storing and transporting it is never going to improve. You can't reshape the tanks. The pressures are so high they can only be spheres or cylinders. FYI the rate of EV fires is lower than that of combustion vehicle fires. Also, Tesla and others are using lithium iron phosphate batteries (no cobalt, and no nickel).
@@theblue_hatter4829Also... Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles... are electric. They use hydrogen to generate electricity. it's actually an electric motor moving the car.... Furthermore, hydrogen fuel cell vehicles ALSO have batteries, albeit smaller than an exclusively electric vehicle, but still contain those scawey elements you're so concerned about.
@@theblue_hatter4829 instead they have ultra high pressure tanks all around you. They are also closer to 60% efficient in reality. Hydrogen generation is not an efficient process. Storing and transporting it is never going to improve. You can't reshape the tanks. The pressures are so high they can only be spheres or cylinders. FYI the rate of EV fires is lower than that of combustion vehicle fires. Also, Tesla and others are using lithium iron phosphate batteries (no cobalt, and no nickel).
That Mirai is the 2nd generation Mirai. It's not a concept car anymore. No one is buying hydrogen cars since the price per kilo jumped up to $29 from $16 just a few years ago. Imagine paying $145 just for 400 miles in range.
like the electric vehicles did? Don't say that!! im hopeing that one day they will improve the EV with the ability to fully charge from absolute 0 to 100 percent in 3 to 5 minutes and offers a range of atleast 500 miles and for under 50 thousand dollars so i can buy one! For now i have the full size luxurious Jaguar XJl which i fully fuel up (once a month)and takes me 3 to 5 minutes. range 570 miles and i got it used with 18,000 miles on it at 41,000 dollars, paid off. I hope the next generation EV will have these fine qualities and improvements. infact the good people at Tesla in Philadelphia Pennsylvania told me quote, "Have patience because that day is coming." Ok then I'll waite.....
@@carlsmith5545idk man synthetic fuel sounds better cuz EVs pollute more. Digging up the earth with the machinery that consumes more gas than an entire fucking city. Plus, this could be a terrorist's dream because you can have an entire lane of EVs waiting at an intersection and boom! If one explodes the others explode too and there's no way to stop the fire. Synthetic fuel is made by binding carbon and hydrogen atoms in order to make the fuel mixture, and carbon is sourced from CO2. So yeah no digging here.
@@aviateeditsthat’s true but not a reason to say I don’t buy a hydrogen car If more people buy one, more gas stations will give you hydrogen it’s the same as with the electric cars But hydrogen cars are way more climate friendly, so they should be the option you chose when you buy a car
@@HeinrichDerGrosse1298no they aren't 😂 hydrogen either comes from stripping fossil fuels of hydrogen or electrolysis of water. From the grid to producing hydrogen gas hydrogen is already less efficient than an electric car going from grid to torque, never mind shipping, storing, pumping the hydrogen and converting it into torque.
Are you actually suggesting hydrogen emissions are not clean? Govt pushing EV, which has to be charged at station. The electricity charging it is probably from COAL!
Technology advances. Things get better and more efficient. At one point in time every mode of transportation had it's problems. These are no different.
It's adequate for more than the average driver. I've owned cars with two digit HP numbers ans people everywhere worh V8 trucks ans SUV's holding me up. Most just drove around lkke mindless zombines, usually on their phone. They're better off worh less than 150hp.
americans have heavy cars. this is also a heavy car. this 180hp toyota will be about as fast as a 100hp golf. which is fine if you ask me, americans spend all day in traffic anyway, 0-60mph time never matters if your entire daily commute is spent at an average speed of 5mph
the thing is it has alot of weight from the h2 cell, tanks, battery, motor, and electrical 😅 h2 cells are the worst hybrid possible for being expensive, inefficient, unreliable, complex. and I'm sure any measure of failure 😂
I guarantee you an old golf that only makes 100hp or less is a much more fun driving experience than this thing. New cars are so heavy, older cars are where it’s at for sure. They often have much lighter chassis and don’t have as many electronics which makes for a very rewarding drive.
@@alnoso only Americans in big cities are in traffic. I regularly travel state to state, the highways are empty and very well made (for the most part), you can go fast as hell lol
@@kevinb7551 How do you even know that? BEVs are heavy and expensive, too. The rest are just bold claims about an emerging technology called hydrogen EVs. If you see the big picture, you see affordable electricity in a fair competition between EVs and normals cars.
its a CALI thing. its not gonna take off. i like to think of it as a pilot program for alternative energy. 1) regular gas ... ironically no longer as common, Ethanol Free 2) the actual common gas E10, it has around10% corn ethanol 3) E85, 85% ethanol 4) battery vehicle 4a) plug in hybrid (PHEV) 4b) non plug hybrid (HEV) 4c) full batter (BEV) 5) hydrogen now with all these options its just part of the greater trend to lower fossil fuels. charging stations for hydrogen is only in cali, so apparently its not taking for a reason. (i dont know much cuz i only saw this clip and did minimal research on Hydrogen) battery power is cool but has limitations. most of which are improving like distance and more electricty with less weight but they gotta do other stuff which i gotta read more on before commenting. like shifting from Lithium mixes to some other mixes. personally i like non plug hyrbids cuz GAS IS KING in my opinion yet for certain parts of the drive, battery would be king. 1) slow driving, 2) inner city driving 3) fast food lanes 4) curbing other points in a the gas drive where gas is less efficient to me Gas is better for LONG distance like freight vehicles and towing but just commuter vehicles and passenger cars battery can better shine. so for the common man, non plug hybrids would be best since they dont have to pay for charging stations in addition to the higher cost of battery powertrains. once charging stations are more common and battery vehicles get cheaper then id say Plug in Hybrids and full battery vehicles would be better. but maybe for inner cities, make the battery a LOT cheaper for them. i know there was a bill passed by biden so we'll see.where it goes from here. long story short, hydrogen is just another option of powering a car that if cheaper could make fleet taxis work in New York, maybe.... i guess. we just need cheaper batteries and a way to recycle them. until then Gas is king. but i still support going green.. just be sensible about it.
The problem with hydrogen is volumetric density, which is 20% of diesel. On the other hand, gravimetric density is 3 times higher, making it much lighter than petrol or batteries.
they will get better remember electric cars in the 90's that GM made. Once Hydrogen infrastructure is in place more R&D will go into those vehicles. If they made one on sequoia platform with bigger/more tanks it would be alot better option.
idk, hes a LUXURY brand user. he likes amenities and power/muscle cars. nothing against him perse but he does insult the goal of this vehicle. not all vehicles NEED HP, just get from 0-60 in a safe time, 45-60 in a safe time 60-0 in a safe time, abilty to drive over 95 mph without BURNING UP THE ENGINE. its not so much of being a speed demon in my opionion as much as, you dont want to actually let your higher usable speed to be close to the engines max speed. im not a car guy but i did max my car out at 127 just cuz "its my car and i wanna know how the full range of its performance is" at 90 i can feel the struggle at 100 i hurt cuz i feel the single digits of mpgs. at 100 plus i just wanna get up to speed already so i can get down before I'm spotted and jailed. so yeah i only sprinted not drive like a bat outta hell down the high way. it always when the road is mostly empty. but for context i drive a 2017 Nissan Rogue. i like it cuz its an Gas non hybrid that has fuel economy similar to a gas sedan, but has the SPACE of an SUV. 28 city and 33 highway, but ive pushed it to as high as 35 highway. i dont "super" inflate my tires, just 2 psi over. its supposed to be 33 all around so i go up to 35. which after they get heated from driving goes up to 37. im REALLY fuel consious like i reset my trip odometer every fueling. i have a 14 gallon tank and drive until 50. miles are there (just above red line empty) so i normally get around 300 miles per tank, but ive been using eco mode and says i can get around 410 (which is like 360 miles cuz of the 50 miles so i dont drive fumes.) so yeah i love fuel effiency which is better for me and since that saves me money, in a sense it helps mother earth cuz i dont use as much gas to pollute.
Yeah bro hfcv are battery electric with a fuel cell range extender. Lithium ion battery and all. And to boot you either use 3-5 times the energy to create hydrogen or you create it from natural gas. Both requiring very pure water sources. How's that for environmentalism
@@Capthrax1creating hydrogen requires way more energy than just putting electricity in the car. Add transport and everything else to that, and EV's are way better in the long term
We can, however if you’re paying $30K and more for a car then you’re gonna wanna get all you can with it. Imagine spending $50K on a Toyota that has low acceleration and isn’t fun to drive
Bro you drive 2 hours and you in a whole new country I drive 2 hours and I’m in a different county. Completely different. For us an 8 hour road trip going 90+ is a normal thing. For you you would probably drive thru like 5 countries. So yea we do need to HP to get around fast
so for all y'all weirdos who have never used a gasoline sedan, it's literally an ICE car but with hydrogen and the back seat is cramped if your tall and all cars are cramped in the back if your tall. so it's really not bad.
Besides the lack of infrastructure, hydrogen fuel cells make a lot more sense for things like trucks and heavy equipment. The fuel weighs less, the refueling is just as fast as ICE and it's probably quite durable
@@cameronbartlett856 Power is easily scalable with current fuel-cell technology And they can have some power behind them, I mean, is really bad to have a mid-size sedan which has ~180hp and 300NM of torque?
Hydrogen hybrids could make sense for heavy vehicles, like a fuel cell for steady state loads and a hydrogen fired ICE for peak power demands, but you just trade very heavy batteries for very large hydrogen tanks so I don't think it's ideal. Plus, hydrogen takes a lot of electricity to make, so why not just use that electricity directly instead of converting it to Hydrogen and then back to electricity. Hydrogen is also notoriously hard to store and move around on account of how tiny the molecule is. Diesel-battery-electric is likely to be the future of heavy equipment.
Fuel cell makes total sense. Currently the Japanese government and Toyota are working hand-in-hand to build a hydrogen infrastructure in Japan. They are also lobbying the UN to slow the forced adoption of electric vehicles because they believe hydrogen is and will be the future. I agree with Toyota completely and I will adopt a hydrogen vehicle before I ever invest into an EV.
@@maquindesign9158 that might’ve been the case years ago, but Toyota has reinforced the hydrogen tanks to prevent such events. It’s the same story with tankers one crash and kaboom. It’s not unique to hydrogen or fuel. Any contents under pressure have the same effect.
no signs of an hydrogen infrastructure being built in the rest of the world though...EV has a big headstart in chargg'ing infrastructure vs hydrogen infrastructure 50k charging stations vs 50 hydrogen pumps in the US. Bev also almost twice as efficient from the grid to the wheels (making hydrogen takes energy) and hydrogen ev such as the Mirai are vastly inferior to Bev like model 3 doesn't look good for hydrogen only advantage is fueling in 5 minutes vs 20mn for quickest charging EVs but even that is changing and EVs can charge at home unlike hydrogen cars
Same dude. EV's are overhyped. Until they can mass produce long life batteries and we stop burning fossil fuels to power the grid that charges the EV's, I really don't see a compelling value proposition.
Yeah, why buy an EV when you can drive hydrogen that takes 4 times the amount of installed solar and wind to go the same distance. Japan is doing it because they currently import 100% of their transportation fuel. They plan on switching most of that to importing liquid hydrogen shipped from Australia.
BMW is making a X5 hydrogen. It's almost finished. But as long as there are almost no fuel stations for hydrogen, this doesn't make sense. otherwise I would directly buy one
Yup, there's always a tradeoff, gas is the best by far in energy density but if you care about emissions you have to make concessions, if they can manage liquid hydrogen it would be a game changer but until then density is its failing
If you regularly try to charge an electric car at a commercial fast charger you are using your car wrong. With the exception of road trips you should do all of your charging at home overnight. We need better infrastructure for apartment and other renters to charge electric vehicles at home.
@@bobbob1730 "so long as you stay within a 15m range of your house and you have an industrial charger for your car built into your house, they're great, what's your problem?"
@@highestsettings you dont need an industrial. My family uses low power chargers and we get around fine. 2 EVs that we use for everything. Charge at night, use at day.
Well, as one of its first models, that is alright, you would get rid of the space issue with a bigger SUV build like the land cruiser, and they will go towards perfomance when they are done with reliability and mileage.
$50k for this car. Sure, you get a $15k gas card, but with the prices of hydrogen, it wouldn't last you the first year. So as the years progress, with the operating and maintenance costs, you would have just been better off buying a nicer $80k car to begin with. Hydrogen prices, in the 2 states it is sold, have gone up like crazy and fueling these things up is becoming more and more unaffordable.
Let's not forget that Hydrogen availability at volume is near zero. Reality check: as a fuel, it's so expensive that Mirai owners are suing Toyota for dropping the fuel coupons that made ownership affordable. Access to public fueling stations is incredibly rare. Russia, the largest country in the world, has none. China is the world leader with 250 stations at last count, the US has 55, all in California, and Canada (the 2nd largest country in the world) only has 9.
@@gaaneshmujumdar You’re missing the point. I live in central Canada, roughly equidistant from Victoria BC and St John’s, Newfoundland, a 6,000km spread. My closest relatives live 2.5 hours and 6 hours away. How practical is Hydrogen with only NINE filling stations in the entire country? That compares to 8,700 commercial EV charging stations, and nearly 12,000 for gasoline and diesel.
This isn't honesty, if you've been following the car market you would know Toyota has been consistently getting hit with hit pieces. Nobody says anything about ridiculous car prices and having to pay subscription models to unlock heated seats but god forbid alternative car models to gas and electric.
182 HP is litterally enough to move a economy car around with power to spare. Not everybody wants a fast car, some just want a car that will get them home and don't care what the car does
182 is 61 hp higher than my old car which I had loaded with 600 pounds of audio. “Only” 182 lmao My new car, which feels so much faster is 181 hp 🤷♂️🤣
Wow... so exited for something that is straight up witse in every way to a petrol car. I want something that I can fuel instantly overnight at home thanks.
This is a small price for the planet. I think everybody should own a hydrogen powered vehicle in the future. Yeah, petrol is fun I know. But we need to think more about the future these days
@@batu9858the planet is going to be fine. Let me think it's survived magnetic reversal of the magnetic poles, recurring ice ages tectonic shift volcanoes earthquakes constant bombardment by Cosmic radiation and meteorites. Man is nothing to the planet just a very minor surface nuisance don't kid yourself. Long after mankind is no longer on the earth the earth will continue on as it always has at least until the sun goes Nova
More expensive, less efficient, less space, slower, less reliable. They've been trying to develop these for 30 years and this is the best they have come up with.
@@GRINDEATSLEEPREPEAT yup, and electric vehicles have been successfully used for more than a century in many different applications. Now that battery technology has caught up with motor technology most use cases of the personal automobile are fully met by a BEV. Hydrogen failed before it ever even started. It's more dangerous, more expensive, and less powerful.
Hydrogen fuel cell in a car is still an electric car. Rather than charging the battery via a charge point, the battery is charged via a hydrogen-oxygen chemical reaction.
@@idc0808that's not his main point, but sure. We're gonna have to reduce emissions sooner or later, else it'll come at the cost of EVERYTHING. EVs suck at doing that due to the lithium mining being horrible for the planet, paired with most of the energy used to charge it not coming from renewable sources. This is the 1st hydrogen car we've had since that 1 guy who initially had blueprints for it but mysteriously disappeared, paired with the working hydrogen car.
@@LuxEternismate the thing costs nearly 300 dollars to fill up. It gets like 8 miles to the gallon if that. Wheres the closest hydrogen station to you? The car costs almost 100k
Gasoline tanks hold liquid, and they can be any shape basically which is good for packaging. Hydrogen tanks have to be this specific pill shape because they hold pressurized hydrogen gas.
@@chrislambe400i saw a video where Toyota (if i’m not wrong), showed that the only way they managed to damage hydrogen tank was to shoot it. It was ok after every crash test.
Glad to see hydrogen cars are being made. Proof of concept if not anything else... and to have one of the best auto manufacturers in the world producing it is awesome
The Mirai has some obvious flaws but it's also the only publicly sold vehicle in north America. EV's have some big drawbacks too, especially at the beginning. We just aren't seeing the same investment to fix those drawbacks in hydrogen vehicles
Electric vehicles are a racket. They're impractical and bad for the environment. We do not have the infrastructure to support widescale use, they require more maintenance, produce more pollution in their creation and from battery disposal. They're also way heavier than their gas powered counter parts meaning they burn tires like crazy, also meaning they pollute more.
not saying theres not SUM validity 2 wat u said, but at the same time its invalid its all stale talking points evrythng from materials, 2 sourcing, 2 battery technology, 2 solar panel incorporation, is constantly bein developed further, changed, perfected, etc Aptera alone 4 example is readying 2 start deliverin their 1st vehicles in 2025, w/max range of 1,000 miles on single charge, including integrated solar panels 2 replenish the charge.. most ppl who drive regular city mileage would nvr hav 2 charge again after the 1st time, if maybe once a year or so then take n2 account ALL the diff companies & groups workin 2 address all the things u listed, from the usa, 2 south korea, 2 japan, 2 china, 2 germany, etc etc ppl can keep repeating all those same stale talking points all they want but it dnt take n2 account advancements n the field & it dnt make sticking w/ gasoline a better option or answer
Yeah tell that to the African people who are in slaved in horrific conditions mining for your cobalt (which by the way truly ruins the environment). While you type this on your phone created by enslaved children and families from other countries who barely even have breathable working conditions. But sure ✨🌈Save the environment🌈✨
@@RONNIEJNZN that’s a good point if a tank is breeches and leaks into your cabins and reaches a flame it will ingolf you inflamed prolly far more dangerous then gas or electric
HP is a real dealbreaker. I also watched a video of a guy who owns one trying to fuel and the first place he went to the pumps were down so he had to drive several miles to another station and as he was pumping he was talking about how at times the lines to fuel can be hours long. If they fixed it so every gas station had a hydrogen station they could probably afford to shrink/remove some of the fuel tanks because you could just fuel more often. Also the horsepower issue is… it’s an issue. But kudos to the people who own these regardless because early adopters are what’s going to fund the next gen
i know, really, it's like roasting the first Air Plane like: "dude it only holds 1 person, and it flew like for less than 1 minute? and it was so slow" Innovation isn't made in a day, it's a hard-work and constant progress, with many iterations just like evolution
I think the concept and actual engine have been around longer than 4 yrs. It's just that nobody really pays attention to it, and nobody invests in it. With a big company like Toyota, the technology will probably get better.
