I Saw Joker 2. It's So Bad 

"Why so serious?" - Jokethony Twotano

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he’s giving NOT GOOD’s to movies now 💀

Finally, a classic review of Fall Out Boy’s Folie à Deux!

If it had Doug Walker instead of Lady Gaga, you would’ve given it a 10.

You're just mad because they didn't cast you as Harley Quinn

I think we can chalk this horrible movie up to the fact that The King of Comedy and Taxi Driver didn't have sequels, so when it came time for Phillips and Co. to come up with a Part 2, they didn't have any work to cheat off of.

> The Cure releases a second single from their upcoming album > Reviews Joker II because Phoenix has better makeup

Cops and Prison guards are portrayed as Irish constantly because of cultural history. Theres an old joke in New York City. “If it werent for the Irish, we wouldnt have a police force, but without the Irish; we wouldnt need one.” The Irish were treated extremely poorly by private businesses and struggled to find work when they immigrated here; however Law Enforcement welcomed any hands willing to work. The Irish took that offer.

movie so bad he changed careers temporarily

My man wore an ICP shirt to talk about the Joker 2 and im here to say i appreciate that effort.

What if instead of reviewing albums melon reviewed movies and he gave the godfather a light 3

I don't know if I'd call screaming "I'm the Joker" for 13 minutes a movie review...

I thoroughly dislike that mental health-focused films or films about people struggling with mental illnesses only tend to theatricalize the really bad aspects of someone clearly living a disadvantaged life. I had this problem with the first film where there was almost no uncertainty Arthur was going to become apathetic because they literally show him getting beat up by kids, by people on subways, and even made fun of by not-Rupert Pupkin on the talk show, but the scene where the guards at Arkham who are basically the alpha male Heathers clique drag him into a bathroom stall and literally SA the Joker out of him felt so especially cynical, and him shouting the movie's moral undertone verbatim in a really overdone monologue to boot, it really removed any semblance of nuance or tension from the courtroom stuff which was easily the low point narratively

You're laughing. Fantano was forced to see Joker 2, and you're laughing

I love how the two reactions to this movie have been: "It's bad [not incel way]" and: "It's bad [incel way]"

The musical element of this movie was so poorly done that I completely forgot it was a musical and was confused why Fantano was talking about it

i’m a woman who resonated deeply with Joker (i was bullied as a kid & have AuDHD). i understand the “toxic incel fanbase” argument for Joker 2 being bad, really i do. but Joker 2 just felt flagrantly disrespectful to ANYONE who enjoyed the first film, for ANY reason. there’s definitely a way to stick it to weirdos in the audience without tainting the entire franchise.

A musical with boring setpieces and a lead who can’t sing, a courtroom drama with a cut and dry case that our main character can’t win, a romance with an uncompelling couple and actors with no chemistry, a character study where we don’t learn anything new and he doesn’t change between the beginning and ending scene, and a sequel that undoes the conclusion of the original and has nothing but contempt for anything associated with the original.

I thought this was just gonna be a funny roast but it was actually a real good discussion, never let public perception of a work or the perception of those who typically like said work stop you from liking it. Also pretty interesting perspective on what could've been going on in the minds of the people making the movie, and how that mindset hurt the movie

If it was called 2 pimp a Joker you would've given it a 10

I liked the part when the Joker said "ain't no party like a Joker party".

Cal shows up at 2:22

After seeing Megapolis right after this movie, Joker 2 didnt seem so bad

They didn't need to rape The Joker out of Fleck. But they did it anyway. They didn't need to shit on Nolan's wishes re the Ledger Joker. But they did it anyway. Philips is an unhinged weirdo. The fact that he let the online discourse shape this is pretty on brand

3:03 bro really missed the chance to say ''I like some of Gaga songs..''

I think the worst part about this movie was the insincere nature of it. Hundreds of millions of dollors were spent to...make fun of people who have obvious mental illness. Im not a fan of incels either but it feels like punching down to make fun of people who cant even get a girlfriend. The first movie was great because most people could relate to the feeling of being unimportant in our modern world. That is actually an important thing that art can address. I doubt many incels were actually true fans of the first film as the deeper meanings probably flew over their heads.

Honestly who tf needs a musical in 2024. I love superhero movies but we gotta stop theatre-kidifying the characters and plots for the sake of “art”

As a DC fanboy, I don't understand why they slapped the names of very well established characters onto characters that have nothing in common with them. Arthur Fleck isn't the Joker, Lee isn't Harley Quinn. Throwing in a mention of Lee having a psychology degree is almost insulting. Imagine if they'd actually used the real Joker/Harley origin story, where she is his psychologist in Arkham. Instantly a more interesting dynamic. Instead, Gaga was saddled with a mess of crazy girl stereotypes. People need to stop treating comic book characters as something to fix.

I preferred the first one, Scooby a Deux.

Just watched it today, holy shit the movie never fucking ends

Imagine if this video ended with somebody shivving Anthony only to reveal that he was never the real Fantano

They canned Todd's Hulk Hogan biopic and that's the genuinely the best thing to ever happen involving Hulk Hogan. More of that please.

You know what's NOT so bad and DOESN'T make fun of its audience with sweeping generalised statements? TRANSFORMERS ONE, IN CINEMAS NOW!!!!!!!

6 thrusts, he's just like all of us

“[The director] allowed the outside world to seep into the movie storyline when he really shouldn’t have.” - Mr Plinkett 2010

ANTHONY AND CAL IN THE SAME FRAME??? WHAT KIND OF GIFT IS THIS

0:57 for all the years of people saying Cal Chuchesta is just a “character” played by Anthony, explain this

"Jazz didn't deserve this" 😂

i think the biggest reason the sequel was not as impactful was because in the first joker we see arthur get beat down repeatedly to a point where when he fights back it is cathartic, his awful actions feel justified, there is a grim satisfaction. in joker folie a deux there is no “fight back” there is no release, just beat downs, i think the musical element was supposed to help with that, but they feel too detached from the story, arthur is just beat down to the very end, i liked the harley arc of being created by joker, it’s probably the most interesting part but also too under developed because the movie doesn’t show much beyond arthur’s pov. this could’ve worked if harley had her story and her pov, and if the joker actually did something besides suffer.

As a french, "folie à deux" pronouciation by Anthony is hurtful😄

does this mean we're not getting the harlequin album review

There is a courtroom anti-musical by Lars Von Trier called Dancer in the dark. It stars Bjork. It was wonderful. They could have just done something like that. I think they didn’t because yeah, this movie has nothing but contempt for itself and its audience. What a vile, reactionary piece of media. Not even Dada, more like Duh Duh.

no movie musical can beat the muppets , thats a good one

Portishead - Dummy is a masterpiece of the 90's. Glad to see it displayed.

The real joker 2 was us all along

You should watch the Wild Robot to cleanse your pallet.

If it was called To Pimp a Joker: Folie à Deux, you would've given it a 10

i guess we doin movies now

They coulda just made joker say "i support women, people of color, the lgbtq community, and other minority groups" randomly instead of wasting 2 hours and a movie 💀

This is why the best Joker portrayal will always be the one in the 90s cartoon.

"Jazz didn't deserve this." - Anthony Fantano Put it on the f'ing blu-ray cover lol

bro said folly a doo

I would’ve never guessed I would see bombas sponsor Fantano after I first saw them on shark tank YEARS AGO

1:53 anyone else waiting for them to kiss?

@ 0:29 when i'm trying to get my girl to have unprotected sex on my birthday

12:07 Hey, ya know what, they were portrayed and called criminals for decades. That's actually where "paddy wagon" came from. So as far as I'm concerned, that's social progress, hahaha

Anyone think we’ve gone a bit too far with lumping ALL “sad, lonely, weird” men in with the “incel” types? Being sad and lonely or feeling like an outcast aren’t inherently going to lead you into a black pill or red pill mindset, but it’s a lot more likely to if everyone starts rejecting you BECAUSE they assume you’re already like that. Where else do sad lonely weird men go, after that? I mean come on.

It’s not that bad. I’m tired of the internet just dumping all over this movie. It’s not great. It’s not nearly as good as the first one. No one asked for it. But there are good parts and it’s worth seeing. The cinematography is brilliant, the opening sketch with the cartoon animation was fun. The first act alone was great. Yeah the writing is mid and the ending sucks and the last 2/3 of the film is slow. But COME ON. The cinematography is brilliant! Phoenix really delivers! There are some redeemable musical scores and elements. It’s not that bad. It’s like shitting on this movie is a trend or something. It’s going to be hip to think this movie was good a decade from now.

Fantano should honestly create a channel for movie reviews, discussions and whatnot. It’d be great to see his takes on cinema and filmmaking!

Is Anthony wearing a Juggalo Shirt? Way to reject Social Norms, Melon, truly you too are like The Flecker.

I hate handsome men who are objectively attractive wearing glasses or not wearing them. When I take off my glasses I look like a blind otter or something god dammit

It's like if Pink at the end of The Wall just got shot in the face by a stranger.

joker 2 completely tainted the mythology and iconography of the first. which is the worst thing a sequel can possibly do. what we all saw was the vision from the start, that movie had no potential. but the concept had all the potential in the world. it should have been a rightful successor as a dark psychodrama romance with pinches of music used in moderation. joker and harley as characters were failed as was the franchise, and one of the most notable psychological phenomenons “folie a deux” was failed.

The tap dance scene is the only time I've ever not hated a tap dance number. The only time it felt fitting was when a crime clown was doing it

I actually think this was a far more interesting take on this story than the first. In an American city like Gotham with its depraved prison system and lack of funding for social services, there are no hero tales. You do not ‘become immortal’ by putting on the mask like in The Dark Knight, there is just you, the things you do, and your circumstances. Putting that story into the world of Batman where the solution has, up until this point, been a rich guy doing vigilante justice, I think just enriches it.

Joker 2019: a sad loser becomes unintenionally a symbol for Gotham riots Joker 2024: Gotham realizes that Arthur is only a sad loser Audience: whaaaaat

coming from the same guy who directed the hangover trilogy, wonder what went wrong.

My god you're overthinking this. This is a terminally online way of viewing this movie.

"i give Joker 2 a decent 1. Go watch Transformers One instead" Thank you Fantano

The biggest sin this movie committed was releasing in a time when slightly enjoyable movie stocks are at an all time low

I got more enjoyment off a 4 second I'm the Joker Baby meme.

I don’t have money anymore to waste at the movie theater anymore especially if the movie is going to be bad

You know it’s bad if Fantano is making a movie review

Not Knuckles from Paddington 2 transitioning into an abusive cop...nooooo Knuckles...

Personally liked when Arthur Fleck said "It's Joker Time" and Joker'd everywhere.

yknow, theres this hype guy, for ONE movie, that TRANSFORMS your thinking..

The only way they can save this is to make a 3rd movie where Arthur wakes up and the second movie was all a dream 😂

I'm convinced the "toxic incel fandom" was largely a fabrication of the media. I have zero interest in comic book films (or most Hollywood output for that matter), but I really enjoyed the first Joker film - I appreciated the character study and narrative arc, the atmosphere, music, and the acknowledgement of complexity in human behaviour and motivation. And of course, Phoenix's performance. A billion dollar box office suggests that most people who enjoyed it *weren't* toxic incel fanboys. But in making this dumb sequel that nobody asked for, Philips has now disenfranchised everyone who enjoyed the first film - not just his mythical minority of basement-dwellers.

11:14 Anthony that's redundant, you could have just said "the movie turns into La La Land".

Melon should review musicals

we got Melon reviewing movies before Gta 6

hey at least it’s not non reviewable

I can’t read lips but that video of Joaquin (supposedly) saying “it’s horrible” after watching the premier breaks my heart for some reason. It’s bad, and everyone knows it, and no one can do anything about it. I liked Beau is Afraid, but there’s a good argument that it’s awful too. Joaquin’s had a rough year.

Anthony, nobody wants to see this movie, so no need to worry about spoilers.

this movie is anti audience. Todd philips didnt hide that at all. The first movie is about arthur becoming the joker. This one is mostly about the implications of identifying with the joker character and deconstructing the joker persona. The script feels like todd hates the audience lol. arthur flip flops during the movie between joker and arthur, which invalidates the entire arc of the first movie. The very last shots in joker 1 is ""arthur"" running across the arkham hallway after being implied to have killed the psychiatrist. That's not arthur fleck anymore. That's the joker now. Besides, this one is very over the top. I cant buy that arthur is the first to get hit by a major blast and harvey, sitting further from him, is the one with the messed up face. Also, the courthouse seemed way too over the top for a movie trying to be a serious "realistic" one. People's laughs seemed like soundbites. I can somewhat "believe" the first movie. Seemed like a cautionary tale and i could see someone that mentally commiting a murder on live TV or some shit like that. I can't buy any of the concepts joker 2 is trying to tell me. And i can't stress enough over how arthur's """grape""" scene is such a cheap move to get arthur to come to terms with the fact that he isn't really the joker. They couldnt have any other way to make that point, i guess. Todd philips is known for these shitty sequels. Hangover part 3 had a full 180 genre shift (became an actual crime movie) and it quite literally had no actual "hangover", just like this one has no "joker". He tends to overestimate himself instead of coming to terms that he's fine for one off movies (just like i think his first hangover is actually good, much like the first Joker) Best things? cinematography, phoenix, the opening animation and gaga's singing voice, even though she was absolutely wasted in the role as her character has very little to chew on. The musical bits fucking sucked tho for most of the time. I thought it would go for a dancer in the dark concept and every song would be imaginary but there's actually a lot of music thats meant to be irl in the movie. Pick one or the other. It also felt like it was built around the music first. Literally feels like a clip show at points with how they interject the music. Did todd philips get random jukebox songs and thought he could write a script around them? Also, the ending? low hanging fruit to pick on imo. Too on the nose. I never seen a sequel try to say "fuck you" to the audience that passionately. Sorry for the rant, i really fucking hated this one. And i'm used to bad sequels. My favorite genre is horror so this is just routine. This one is just a sequel that i never thought would be this bad.

I enjoyed sitting in the theatre and watching Joker 2. I enjoyed and am fascinated by the cynical and blunt ending. Maybe it didnt need to be 2 hours long, but I thought it played its themes well. I just thought about the whole looney tunes opening about his shadow and how it goes along with to his trial and demise. I will say I felt the movie was very very sloppy but I still enjoyed it.

Javing high hopes for a joker musical was a mistake

The original was an interesting movie that covered a lot of topics and feelings of the time. It also painted capitalism in a bad light and I think many people resonated with that whether they realized it or not, it was very REAL for the genre. This new director and movie concept to just piss off incels reeks of elitist bs and is honestly so disappointing. Oh well the first film will always be kinda cool for what it was.

"Deciding to not like or distance yourself from or negatively review a movie because of the crowd of people it might appeal to is wack" Cool, now review Vultures

If you pretend the movie is called "The Jonkler" and not Joker 2 then it's actually pretty good

It just makes no sense to me why Arthur would want to go back to his old life when the first movie showed so clearly why he became "Joker". His whole life before that was not good, he was not treated well, they got rid of services to help him. I'm not saying it would be okay in real life but its a movie. He should have embraced the confidence being "Joker" gave him in this movie and made an actual good movie. I think its clear the director did not want any potential of having to make a 3rd movie.

i bet if it was called “To Pimp a Joker” you would have loved it

Had it been Charlie XCX instead of Lady Gaga you would have ate that movie up

I seriously need it explained to me how this movie is so horrible because I thought it was on par with the first

I was literally hoping TODAY that you would review this!! Miss the era of movie reviews in 2023 before the strike

Thank you! Being a bad movie on purpose is not lame.. lame as hell. It’s as if the director didn’t consider all the watchers not just the audience he’s trying to piss off.

The sequel doesn't even understand the own message of the original. This is just one example of it. The point of the Joker masked individuals was not to represent some sort of cult. They simply used Joker as an example of their own insatisfacción living in Gotham. It's a deeper, more interesting social setting than a simple "Joker cult". A world building of Gotham that we had never before seen in Batman movies.

Just because Joaquin Phoenix sings like a dying goat doesn't mean it was a 0/10, Melon

Anthony!! THANK YOU for putting in the effort to cut together a sponsored segment that is actually funny and entertaining!!!! so many youtubers have sponsored segments that transition into a world/editing style that feels so disconnected from the rest of their channel which often comes off as lifeless & boring. letting your unique style of video creation shine through here actually benefits both viewers and the sponsor because a higher quality sketch means more people to actually watch it and not skip ahead! thank you for all the hard work both you and your team have put into these videos over the last 5 years. y'all are some funny bitches!