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@tyrannus1987 Месяц назад

Who knew giving everyone access to every ability would break the game.

@Elix1ficati0n Месяц назад

the game is finally fun

@Njordzzz Месяц назад

@@Elix1ficati0nfr, I haven’t had this much fun in SO LONG. And I feel like 99.9% of the multi classers I see, are actually terrible💀 they just run random perks and get shit on immediately. Idk tho I could be the odd man out

@YaGirlZero Месяц назад

And who would know it would have been fun! (Me, knew both, and so did many others)

@3nothere Месяц назад

the game feels the exact same. whiny bitches honestly. you either win or you dont losers like you will use any excuse to explain away their losses.

@Sgtassburgler Месяц назад

They should just have no classes, everyone has 4 perks 2 skills. Everyone can pick from all the perks and skills.

@noskillant6168 Месяц назад

"wallhacking pos" THAT SHIT MADE ME LAUGH

@DunkSkunk Месяц назад

How delusional and lost must someone be to actually go to one of the main streamers for a game and call them a hacker LMFAO WATERSPIT

@TheShizzlemop Месяц назад

@@DunkSkunk big streamers CAN hack, it has been a thing in the past, and only found out after a long time. using that as a reason to say "large streamer isnt cheating" doesnt make sense because of it. however, that guy is still delusional, because jay explained how he knew he was there. all the guy had to do was go back and watch the vod, then listen for the wood sound but he would rather reject reality and substitute his own. sad.

@kiffsan Месяц назад

Even when you're not having fun you still manage to entertain. Jay, you are one hell of a content creator.

@jaygriffyuh Месяц назад

Thank you 🙂

@zacharylongston199 Месяц назад

RIP Jay. It’s like you’re still with us 😢

@HerbalLeaf Месяц назад

Its definitely not the same game anymore, the lack of class identity is a turn off for me personally

@pezzottaitemeh8616 Месяц назад

I feel you man. they just barely brought me back after they added the ice map and finally started balancing things, but this has killed any desire whatsoever to play the game. wtf am I supposed to do when a cleric pops sprint and smite and 2 taps me? or when a ranger 1 shots me with a windlass from stealth. it's just not fun playing roulette with every player you come across. and I frankly don't have the time or energy to engage with it on the level that the sweatier players can.

@boumzy Месяц назад

that sniff zoom in is something i didn't know i needed. made me burst out loud laughing lol.

@TheKickingPanda Месяц назад

Played DaD since the alpha’s and every time a play test would release on the weekend me and my buddies would go nuts and be so pumped to play it again. Now days it’s like all you can be is disappointed with how often they change the game. Sometimes they add something cool for a class, then take it away the very next patch. Losing a little faith in it.

@Avionnnn Месяц назад

They think multiclassing is cool but what brought me in was the variety of new things. We've already seen all of these abilities before!

@YaGirlZero Месяц назад

IT'S EARLY ACCESS

@WeStayLifted420 Месяц назад

this multiclass system is absolute trash and needs to be removed completely in my opinion... I dont even want to play anymore

@WarmodeIntroArchive Месяц назад

These are the same devs that put out a torrent file for testing during a law suit I think it’s ok to stick this out

@dereklemaster8673 Месяц назад

@@WeStayLifted420 I'm really enjoying it. It actually makes demon form on warlock viable.

@5amura115 Месяц назад

I don't know why everyone is upset about multi-class? Isn't it fun? Don't you like classes having no meaning anymore? Everyone gets everything now fair and square. However you're gonna need to level multiple classes to access the perks and skills you want. Doesn't that sound fun? What's that? You have a job? Well fk you. Hope you're ready to get absolutely steam rolled by a rogue with barbarian and fighter abilities. Don't worry just take that little bit of game time you get and put it towards playing a class you don't like and after dying more times than you can count get ready to do it again with 3 more classes then once the season is over and they finally get rid of this stupid fkn system you'll be happy having never got to enjoy the experience yourself. Yay multi class. 🥳

@kiffsan Месяц назад

Lmao

@nathanscarlett4772 Месяц назад

Exactly how i feel.

@squash6822 Месяц назад

It’s not fucking fun it literally breaks the core game it’s not surviving the next season you’re a shitter for liking multi class and want to kill the game actual brain dead for liking this abomination

@jaredmartin4649 Месяц назад

As an extreme casual, i kind of agree. Class identity isnt there anymore and since I dont really play the game as much as others im at a huuuge disadvantage not just in gear now but also levels, and quests. I think its really cool but man its not at the same time when you run into classes with plate armor/etc when they shouldnt have it

@Sam-dt1kg Месяц назад

yeah i was having fun with it until i kept running into slayer bards, or barbarians with sprint, or wizards with cleric heals.. the game is such chaos right now if you don't thoroughly inspect every players perks and abilities before the game youre at an extreme disadvantage, its not very fun imo. I have lost so many kits to mfs with the craziest possible combinations and its clearly unbalanced for that class

@MrHydra12 Месяц назад

@@Sam-dt1kggot one tapped at 140hp on my fighter by a warlock with a staff mastery build Was 10/10 fucked and he was sitting behind the damn door with creep and bonked me as soon as I opened it. Poofed my divine blade bis roll.

@matprovost13 Месяц назад

You and ken are a sick duo, and you are smooth af on the cleric. Very good video!

@mosese1172 Месяц назад

At this point why have classes if any class be anything, picking a class is just for base stats

@TiltedMarc Месяц назад

Not true! It's also for what gear you have access to lmao

@mosese1172 Месяц назад

@@TiltedMarc squire would beg to differ lol

@brianestepa2376 Месяц назад

@@mosese1172 i dont think you understood what he meant lol

@mosese1172 Месяц назад

@@brianestepa2376 how so, you can literally wear different armors and use different weapons when you swap perks with multiclassing..

@brianestepa2376 Месяц назад

@@mosese1172 he’s just saying you can choose a class that has access to the weapons or armor you want so you do not have to waste a perk slot (or two) on weapon mastery/demon armor.

@DeDe-kz1vx Месяц назад

Ive done that exact thing, sit wile a guy runs you down. Moved the sit key to J lol

@jamesdownunder701 Месяц назад

That 2v1 fight at 2:30 was actually so satisfying when they were trash talking. "Why you running Jay?"

@MrGetThisWok Месяц назад

can confirm. this is a certified Jay classic

@saugamer4314 Месяц назад

THe moment Jay new he fcked up xD Crossbow men just said one line ( OKe bet ) and sniped your head XD good one :D

@nickprince6079 Месяц назад

As someone who's played from the start, this game is the worst irs ever been hands down. Im close to giving up.

@nathanscarlett4772 Месяц назад

I already have given up. I just keep checking until muticlass is removed at this point. Or watch crazy stuff like Jay pulls off

@DirtyRatBast4rd Месяц назад

they should adjust multiclass to let you choose from ONE other class abilities and perks and choosing one will replace another perk but the only way to do that is if they made perks and skills have "tiers" and that might just be another negative hopefully iron hammer finds a way to make multiclass enjoyable and available to everyone and not busted.

@michaellewicki101 Месяц назад

we will have world peace before iron hammer figures out how to balance multiclass and make it enjoyable for everyone lmao

@gerardochavez8536 Месяц назад

I love jay with all my heart

@THE_Glass_Grizzly Месяц назад

Look at how they've massacred my boy..

@JonYugen Месяц назад

At this point, I'm a little worried the mobile version is going to be better than the PC one :|

@nathanscarlett4772 Месяц назад

Ha! Good one

@junglinguy8767 Месяц назад

didnt know jay liked to bop the sea shanties

@AnimeSups Месяц назад

One of the biggest problems with multiclassing is it didnt fix any of the primary issues with the game atm. It just made them significantly worse, you thought kite meta was bad before multiclass? Now fight rogue with sprint and crossbow mastery, phantomize ice bolt spell overload ice mastery wizard, or just a curselock with lesser heal. It gave worse classes access to better options, but gave the broken classes access to literal BIS.

@mynameisjono1654 Месяц назад

5000 gold what an offer! those skellys are going to flip you

@Squall598 Месяц назад

As soon as I saw ttv in that rogues name I knew he'd come into chat to call you a cheater haha.

@_Par1ah Месяц назад

I changed my sit button to N so I can’t fat finger it if I panic, but I can still easily reach it with my thumb if I move my hand in a way I wouldn’t be playing normally

@venomous7321 Месяц назад

Seeing wizard being played like this reminds me of playtest 3

@vinny9331 Месяц назад

Jay should main cleric fr lol

@billyjoebob7320 Месяц назад

damn near impossible to play wizard with spells instead of bonk rn especially in solos its so sad

@KCKono Месяц назад

ice bolt does nothing to these max speed movers i swear

@lookingforsmalldads7588 Месяц назад

I played a ton at the beginning of the wipe when it was populated and BIS wasn't the only thing everyone was running and it was awesome, but as soon as it went back down to sub 10k at peak hours the fun was already over, and this multiclassing shit feels like an april fools joke that they spent too much time on and decided to implement properly.

@JohnHilton-dz4mi Месяц назад

I think it was a very simple addition to the game, that could give the biggest allusion of a large amount of progress on the game. They didn't really add anything.

@xenird Месяц назад

@@JohnHilton-dz4mi lol yes it took them 2 days of work at most to add a couple of icons and buttons to get perks on different classes and they're acting like it's such a big thing

@lawfulLlama Месяц назад

@@xenirdi dont think you know much about programming 💀

@xenird Месяц назад

@@lawfulLlama I know enough to know how hard a task is.

@Skmype Месяц назад

Me and my friend played a round of ice caverns and the first team we run into was a wizard and warlock in full plate who were on us in like 2 seconds. They one shot him and immediately turned on me and I got 2 shot. Needless to say we won’t be playing much until Multiclassing is removed and yes they were both Multiclassing.

@DannyfMartin Месяц назад

Multiclass didn’t give them map knowledge to spawn rush. They just gamers

@Skmype Месяц назад

@@DannyfMartin they didn’t spawn rush we were in pyramid and one second they opened the door next they were on our ass bro 😭

@Skmype Месяц назад

@@DannyfMartin damn near full plate and they were quicker than my friend with full bard buffs 😭

@xenird Месяц назад

Yep, I bought founders edition on first hours of EA, played a lot, then quit the game due to balancing issues. Played it again after the very recent warlock nerfs when I considered the game to be finally balanced, enjoyed it even more than before, then multiclassing dropped. Waiting for a full release now

@SoWestMeetsEast Месяц назад

I'll miss it being a good game about strategy and knowing your limits. Now people can enjoy being a one-shot meta because they put in the 300 hours each season to "play the game"

@zugzwang468 Месяц назад

its crazy how many people are defending multiclass while its ruining the whole game.

@kiffsan Месяц назад

...bUT ITs fUn...

@nathanscarlett4772 Месяц назад

🤡

@Rikuto01 Месяц назад

It's almost like having the freedom to not get killed by some pre-determined rock-paper-scissors formula is more fun.

@kiffsan Месяц назад

@@Rikuto01 lol yeah now you can't even see it coming

@Rikuto01 Месяц назад

Less time to react to a situation, but more tools to deal with it. I can see how a certain type of player would struggle with that.

@WeStayLifted420 Месяц назад

This update single handedly ruined the game for me. I used to spend my free time either watching DnD videos or playing the game.... after this multiclass update I want to do neither... They need to remove this trash.... It would be like if HALO made every playlist FIESTA... or if Rocket League put RUMBLE abilities in competitive playlists.... THIS IS A JOKE.... RIP DARK AND DARKER I wont be playing again until they remove this from the game.

@kiffsan Месяц назад

Bro I was thinking the EXACT same thing with Halo.

@alper9418 Месяц назад

Yeah i've been forced to play melee wizard for the most part nowadays. I've mindwiped straight up 4 or 5 times and it has given my legit garbage. I can't even play caster wizard and I've been crushing it as slayer demon armor wizard. I'm tired boss, i just wanna use dmg spells.

@GusJenkinsElite Месяц назад

Probably playing too much

@alper9418 Месяц назад

@@GusJenkinsElite nah

@EdWuncler3rd Месяц назад

You tried intense focus with warlock/cleric spells?

@alper9418 Месяц назад

@@EdWuncler3rd Warlock spells cast really fast except hellfire so i havent tried that yet and my cleric sanc heal was underwhelming for heals so i didnt lean into it. Cleric wiz sounds like a great mashup tho

@CaseyBlockMB Месяц назад

Removing added damage could be a good change worth experimenting with.

@negative4928 Месяц назад

Friends stopped playing a few months ago and I was quick to follow

@vultrex1839 Месяц назад

Jay, how do you not have wizard spells on your cleric?!!

@kiffsan Месяц назад

The wall hacks weren't enough so he got the multiclass hacks too.

@Dalesabadass Месяц назад

Multiclass system, get to level 35 on a class and you can learn perks/skills/spells from another lvl 25 class character. It’s breaking the game

@lellex5649 Месяц назад

2:38 I just realized they killed their own teammate

@silversy9031 Месяц назад

lmaoo

@beegblamboi Месяц назад

Devs are just trying some wacky nonsense Alot of games will have seasonal game changes to mix things up a bit Theres a 0.0001% chance multiclass will actually be a permanent implement to the game Just try to enjoy it, i honestly hated this at first with every lobby having the exact same broken builds on everybody But that just makes the lobbies easier to counter Make something wacky, dont be predictable I wont give away my whole build but Ive got a tanky wizard build that has little to no weakness if i play it right And now with gear based match making you dont have to play with the giga chads if just dial back your gear score a bit, youll even save a bit of coin with the budget builds Food for thought Love the content Jay❤

@bennyheppner4589 Месяц назад

It's almost like Jay is still here😥

@douglastakle8242 Месяц назад

Real

@intel_revenant8795 Месяц назад

Normals is full of norms goblins that buy white stuff and have stupid op combos, and high roller is people abusing gear lobbies to have +30 additional damage kits and still be in base kit lobbies somehow, games kinda dog right now.

@DunkSkunk Месяц назад

Im gonna change sit to like H ive also pressed it accidentally quite a few times

@Hyroushuu Месяц назад

every vid makes me feel sorry for who ever jays teammates are

@DADENJOYER Месяц назад

gimmie code gimmie pax dei gimmiew ]

@yungbobross6418 Месяц назад

It’s just a joke. Two years of desperate and terrible balancing decisions just to throw it out the window by giving everyone a giant grind to break the game more. Ambush rangers one shotting barbarians, slayer rogues running at movespeed cap two tapping you, casters literally using every single spell in the game.

@GoblinUrNuts Месяц назад

Yup. “This is strong so we nerfed it by 50% Such a good fucking game but goddamn balance team is dogshit. Why the fuck do you take things and reduce them by HALF on initial nerf. Hit it by like 10-20% and see where we’re at next patch.. not every change needs to completely fuck shit up

@xenird Месяц назад

we always come back to stealth archers

@Zanezy. Месяц назад

Sadly my love for this game will die with multiclass. Every character in the game having access to cleric and wizard spells is just a no go for me. Maybe the next game will get it right.

@papapeach2703 Месяц назад

I think multi class takes a lot of work. You already had classes like wizards, which were way to op in the past with gear. Now you have the player base like Jay, who just finds the most cheese way to play all day long. It just makes so you have no chance to beat players like this. I am sure the game isn't as fun cause players are leaving over an unbalanced game.

@ZenMunk Месяц назад

Almost every class was at one point OP and got nerfed. new mechanics, classes, maps and features added. the game will be a very different game by the end of the year. probably the most experimental game Iv played.

@IVameless Месяц назад

I dunno man, I am less and less motivated to play. The game has turned into something I don't enjoy. It's a sweatfest with no class identity. Took a break after wipe and when I heard that they are going to break the balance of the game again I extended that break. Barely played at all this wipe. Seeing how grindy everything has become from ranking up, leveling, obtaining named items, etc. Even now after they have nerfed the level up grind I don't plan to come back and fight against the most broken shit until I probably get the build I want. I'd rather go back to League then do all that and that says a lot.

@VeryBadPlayerTV Месяц назад

dota > league.

@GoblinUrNuts Месяц назад

@@VeryBadPlayerTVwhen csing is the worst part of league why would I want to play league where you have to cs both waves?

@Crayin1337 Месяц назад

Make Dark and Darker great again!

@saint_snow Месяц назад

Yo I swear if the upcoming mobile port is unironically better than the original game...

@JohnHilton-dz4mi Месяц назад

Rage quit the game yesterday. The game has no identity and it just is not fun being thrown around the ringer. Like either be a hardcore pve game with friends, competitive pvp battle royal or a pvpve extraction shooter with the main priority pve, but don't try and aim for all 3.

@1nicesteak109 Месяц назад

See ya in 2 hours

@L0wSkiller Месяц назад

They just need to stop listening to the community when it comes to changes. That Tarkov-like game in space with dinosaurs suffered from cheaters and trying to people please, and its dead now :( they need to pick a direction, and stick to it. Right now it feels like they are directionless :(

@Mastafa_G Месяц назад

Get gud

@RandallMiller-eh6wm Месяц назад

Spewing regurgitating copy-paste ass comment. The game has more players at this time in wipe than the last wipe did

@jpoggi9081 Месяц назад

And for all the dev testing they are doing they sure do keep the features they want to test behind playtime and rng. At least someone convinced them to decrease xp to level at least 3 times

@ButterPants Месяц назад

PLEASE DO A DANCE TO THE SONG, THAT SHIT WOULD BE 🔥

@JohnHilton-dz4mi Месяц назад

You will be missed :(

@DimePwnz Месяц назад

Honestly, been trying to say it for awhile now. At what point is this no longer the game we all fell in love with? IDK but I think the < 6k people in dungeon during NA primetime speaks for itself xD

@breakfist Месяц назад

game is chalked right now. Me and my friends decided to quit for now

@tk20channel Месяц назад

I will say I think the game is much more enjoyable for those of us who don't play at the highest levels. In other words, ignorance is bliss.

@mikul3122 Месяц назад

I play way less now, so I really couldn't care less about getting or holding onto bis. White lobbies with multiclassing is so fun when I hop on now but this game had such a strong hold on me for a while. I was putting in like 10+ hours some days. I feel free now lmao.

@tonguemander Месяц назад

Game is in the worst spot ive ever seen. Class identity is gone, its anti newplayer friendly, it almost feels like im playing a fucking gambling game every match if i get ran down by a buffball or not. Like the game just HASNT been in a good spot ever since bard came to the game imo. There was a beauty in the simplicity and now I dont ever think theyll even release the Druid class LMAO

@user-ki9gw3hk6t Месяц назад

Just grind for 12 hours a day, what's the problem?!?

@mosese1172 Месяц назад

@@user-ki9gw3hk6tsaid every player that is still coping and grinding lol

@EdWuncler3rd Месяц назад

If they made match making based on character level, wouldnt that make the game instantly more new player-friendly?

@Syfmuna Месяц назад

im having a great time

@Sam-dt1kg Месяц назад

@@EdWuncler3rd higher level lobbies are already dead, that would turn them into a complete PvE experience

@mikesxoom Месяц назад

Like ADnD to 5E - Multiclass breaks the game

@JP0197 Месяц назад

🚨HOT TAKE 🚨 Ive actually been enjoying multiclass. My biggest problem is that i was just getting pounded for awhile when i was leveling to unlock it.

@EdWuncler3rd Месяц назад

HEY UR NOT ALLOWED TO ENJOY MULTICLASS URH

@JP0197 Месяц назад

@EdWuncler3rd shit my bad, I'll be sure to remove my comment

@Syfmuna Месяц назад

I've been enjoying it a lot too, I'm sure many people have, but this game is full of people who think they know what's best and that their opinion is the only one that matters

@lawfulLlama Месяц назад

@@Syfmunato be fair the Player Numbers Are dropping and anecdotally i personally know 4 people who stopped playing because of multiclassing 💀

@Syfmuna Месяц назад

@@lawfulLlama I saw someone saying player numbers went up big time when multiclassing came out. I'd like to see the actual numbers. Player numbers tend to drop off anyway further in a wipe in games like this, and new content updates always bring people back, so it's hard to tell. But the people who are enjoying it, of which I'm sure there are many, aren't as vocal on the forums and comments because they are actually playing the game and having a good time.

@members337 Месяц назад

IM really did it with this patch. This game had so much potential

@BornToKill780 Месяц назад

The only thing ironmace is good at is wasting time and opportunities like wheres all the real game devs ? Gotta b someone cooking something better than this mess. At this rate ironmace wont reach 1.0.til 2026 and even thats questionable

@EpsilonSyndicate Месяц назад

I think that Jay had his fun with multiclassing during the test server, and then is sour grapes that the same shit he's been up to is fed right back to him.

@jaygriffyuh Месяц назад

I played a naked double jump ranger with a gray windlass. Not 220hp 75/75 and 330 with weapons out with 37 buffs. ?

@trippiesdredds4805 Месяц назад

Remember to like and subscribe to Jay even if this game is being dawg bootie

@jongerdes4504 Месяц назад

for the love of all that this game used to be, please ironmace remove MC

@Salimas167 Месяц назад

I actually have been enjoying multiclass

@vjbee292 Месяц назад

So disappointed that Rogue's poison doesn't proc on bows. Was going to make: "Poison Sack Ranger" Dual Survivor bows Nimble hands Crippling Shot Double Jump Poisoned Weapon Then just shoot them in the legs / sack

@Lith333 Месяц назад

Taco

@vjbee292 Месяц назад

Thanks SDF! will let you know how I get on xD

@Space_Pilgrim Месяц назад

Multiclassing sucks but in the hands of the top 5% it at least makes for entertaining videos.

@MrSlushpies Месяц назад

first

@Cumtar Месяц назад

1st

@alarex8204 Месяц назад

Has nothing really to do with the video, but I get tired of having to play at full volume just so i can hear people. Make it a bit louder without cleric spells being so loud would be a nice change

@Doc-holiday- Месяц назад

This game isn’t fun anymore

@fauxwit6535 Месяц назад

All of you complaining, get better.

@lilbenttwig1524 Месяц назад

All of you whiners stick out like a sore thumb. The game is just ass dead as it was last wipe, if anything the player base is holding better and higher than last. People are enjoying multi classing. you don’t hear the enjoyers talking about it because we don’t need to post on everything about how we love it, the criers post on everything they possibly can all your complaining is everywhere. Also, I know it’s just a video title but here is a fun fact, you don’t have to play wizard like this actually.

@lukile3296 Месяц назад

As much as some of the comments are bitching about the game, I still enjoy it cause of the core game. It's still in EA so changes will happen anyway, play it and if u don't enjoy it just uninstall.