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I stole uThermals ZERG Build... 

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In this episode of Beating Grandmasters With Stupid stuff I play a banging build order that I lifted from uThermal. The story is in the video.
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@sgtwelch127
@sgtwelch127 10 месяцев назад
You know it's authentic UThermal when there's no creep spread
@_Molecule
@_Molecule 10 месяцев назад
lmao true
@InTheFogOfLondon
@InTheFogOfLondon 10 месяцев назад
He's following his build to a T.
@zeagias
@zeagias 10 месяцев назад
That's so funny to say
@eclipseeffigy
@eclipseeffigy 10 месяцев назад
😂 that backstory behind the build is gold haha
@andrewferguson6901
@andrewferguson6901 10 месяцев назад
Easily Plat, I mean just look at the multitasking
@volodyanarchist
@volodyanarchist 10 месяцев назад
I came here from uThermal's video.
@f3nixfire
@f3nixfire 10 месяцев назад
Uthermal, Harstem and Lowko are my three favorite sc2 content creators and i just love watching Uthermal cheese Harstem then coming over to Harstems channel and watch him wreck others with the very same build he got wrecked by and have nothing but nice things to say crediting Thermy with such a broken build. I love this community!
@jacobsvensson8193
@jacobsvensson8193 10 месяцев назад
The three-headed dutch dragon
@trassage
@trassage 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, if Starcraft 1belongs to Korea, then SCII definitely has a Dutch flavor, which I love)
@Shazbot277
@Shazbot277 10 месяцев назад
I love how they have so much respect for each other. Instead of being salty they compliment each other
@rumination2399
@rumination2399 10 месяцев назад
It’s how fairly well-adjusted happy people communicate, even rivals.
@Bombay1618
@Bombay1618 10 месяцев назад
Nice guys finish first.
@WikiED
@WikiED 10 месяцев назад
26:02 If only he knew that uThermal's build has only rough outline at the start and very quickly goes into improvisation and every game is different. The strength of every uThermal build is pushing the game into chaos state where no one knows how it's supposed to be played and he just wins as he has far more experience of playing in chaos.
@kindlin
@kindlin 10 месяцев назад
That sounds like PiG's description of Florencio, aka The Sewer Mermaid.
@thelunaticco9320
@thelunaticco9320 9 месяцев назад
Drag them down to your level, then beat them with experience.
@Sleep-NA
@Sleep-NA 10 месяцев назад
"CIA probably has pretty good funding if i RECALL" Harstem officially outs himself as a CIA operative.
@TheNeomare
@TheNeomare 10 месяцев назад
The Introduction to this video made me super happy :D. As a relatively fresh huge fan of Uthermal it is with pure joy I experience any interaction between the now 2 of my favorite SC2 creators. keep up the great work! Cheers!
@0BleaK0
@0BleaK0 10 месяцев назад
Collab when? 1v1 cheesefest?
@kindlin
@kindlin 10 месяцев назад
If you never found Lowko, I think he kept up the SC2 scene for Thermy and Harstem and others to break out more recently (3-4 years) on RU-vid.
@TheNeomare
@TheNeomare 10 месяцев назад
@@kindlin I do appreciate the hard work of Lowko as well as all the others youtubers, streamers, tourney organizers, commentators its a big and wonderful community that all worked together to keep the Sc2 alive. I just prefer Thermy and Harstem. There is something really naughty about these 2 that I enjoy a lot :D and there is only so much time I have so can't watch them all but good point for sure Lowk does quality content as well. Cheers!
@kindlin
@kindlin 10 месяцев назад
@@TheNeomare It's all about accessibility. The fact you CAN watch Harstem/Thermy is proof you don't need the full commentary from Lowko. A bunch of years ago when I wasn't familiar with the SC2 scene at ALL, no idea the units, the strats, nothing but the basics from when the game first came out, it wasn't possible for me to watch someone PLAY SC2, they were too fast, and it was almost nauseating. But over time I started watching a lot more playing vs casting, but Lowko is still always fun.
@TheNeomare
@TheNeomare 10 месяцев назад
@@kindlin oh Alright :D. That puts a different perspective. Yea what you say makes perfect sense. For somebody who is new Harstem and Thermy might not be the best place to start. If anything quite the opposite :D. Glad you found your way trough the difficulty. It is a fun game to watch. I really do admire the level at which some people can play it. Its much better for me than watching traditional sports. I guess I take for granted for how long I am in SC2 i feel like i understand it really well. Watched a lot of GSL and many many many youtubers and streamers playing it. I never really was into investing enough time to be and good at it though... did have some fun with a friend of mine for a while when wol came out though but nothing very high level. Ah the good old times :). Cheers!
@miza6
@miza6 10 месяцев назад
playing with no creep = the dutch method
@space_orphan
@space_orphan 10 месяцев назад
When non-zerg mains try to play zerg...
@bundlesofun9568
@bundlesofun9568 10 месяцев назад
"Stealing fruit, that's what I'm all about" Harstem-2023
@SpencerDrager
@SpencerDrager 10 месяцев назад
I was cracking up at that whole thing. Sewn? Sown? He plants the seeds, I reap them!
@dustyodyssey
@dustyodyssey 10 месяцев назад
Checking the help menu while in a 1v1 is the most insane thing about this video
@Kaefer1973
@Kaefer1973 10 месяцев назад
I imagine this video came about like this: "I found a new build order, in which series should I use it?" "From whom did you get it?" "uThermal." "In that case beating Grandmaster with stupid stuff!"
@Velisatra
@Velisatra 10 месяцев назад
It helps understanding this build if you realize uThermal is a pro Terran player and this is basically playing your Zerg like it's a Terran instead. Hydra drops are basically like medivac dropping marines, but way stronger.
@kevinchang5082
@kevinchang5082 10 месяцев назад
Its def not stronger but comparable. Marine medvac synergy is probably the best in the game:
@ScrapDMX
@ScrapDMX 10 месяцев назад
I'm still really hoping you and Marc to team up for a bit of Co-op shenanigans
@blakedurrant9399
@blakedurrant9399 10 месяцев назад
Marc builds hit different.
@ssvensic
@ssvensic 10 месяцев назад
I watched that game from Thermys POV, it was magnificent!
@pavelfedorov2891
@pavelfedorov2891 10 месяцев назад
Is it on youtube?
@ssvensic
@ssvensic 10 месяцев назад
​@@pavelfedorov2891yeah, i think it's posted last week
@ssvensic
@ssvensic 10 месяцев назад
​@@pavelfedorov2891something like "Zerg cheese to grandmaster"
@joshuadalton6063
@joshuadalton6063 10 месяцев назад
@@pavelfedorov2891 I don't think its uploaded yet, or it might have been on uThermal's twitch stream
@Thund3rstorm
@Thund3rstorm 10 месяцев назад
​@@pavelfedorov2891it is as of today
@robertw4411
@robertw4411 10 месяцев назад
"Yeah, whatever let's go" - printing the t-shirts now bruh 👊
@robertw4411
@robertw4411 10 месяцев назад
"oh... that's right, let's go" will be on the back of the shirts
@qwqwq2010
@qwqwq2010 10 месяцев назад
I think this originate from iA and silky's old build "rogafufuken" (yes, yamcha from dragon ball): two base ling flood, a fake attack on natural and a real drop into the main (back then drop can be researched by hatchery). That was a pure PvZ build which has caught so many protoss players out of guard, also resulted in the removal of hatchery droplord research :). And this evolving into a PvT (also PvZ maybe? lol) build with latest buffed hydra is a real nice touch by uthermal.
@sakesaurus
@sakesaurus 10 месяцев назад
all overlords could be dropperlords after research?
@zardecil9419
@zardecil9419 10 месяцев назад
@@sakesaurus Only needed an evolution chamber to morph dropperlords. No research necessary.
@sakesaurus
@sakesaurus 10 месяцев назад
@@zardecil9419 ah nice
@griefgaming2787
@griefgaming2787 10 месяцев назад
I did it on the Diamond ladder and won like 5 games in a row. Super fun build.
@PashaSlavaUkraine
@PashaSlavaUkraine 10 месяцев назад
I respect you admiring you stole it, makes it less stealy👍👍
@Ryan-ke6bc
@Ryan-ke6bc 10 месяцев назад
Harstem: Banter King, Uthermal: Troll Lord. Woot!
@lucius8675
@lucius8675 10 месяцев назад
I just saw that short from that pirate guy too. I've never seen him till yesterday.
@danobenchain5204
@danobenchain5204 10 месяцев назад
did he say "I think I a-cheesed something", what a phrase!!
@illiakuznietsov4162
@illiakuznietsov4162 10 месяцев назад
1:25 It just made me lose it and I laughed in the middle of the night like a maniae XDD
@dustincintron1682
@dustincintron1682 10 месяцев назад
in this video, harstem finally realizes Zerg is broken at 15:45
@KingOfNebbishes
@KingOfNebbishes 8 месяцев назад
I "love" how the end result of this is going to be Harstem going back to the balance council calling for a bug fix that nerfs Zerg, to wit the dropperlords not being f2-able.
@gabrieltroisgros324
@gabrieltroisgros324 4 месяца назад
Nice tribute to mark, he is such a great player, fair play and very entertaining
@absolutator9828
@absolutator9828 10 месяцев назад
Don't play sc2 for a long time, but having so mush fun watching how uThermal or you playing this build!)
@mskolnik2
@mskolnik2 10 месяцев назад
Harstem is the master of knowing the algorithm disfavors videos that have viewers end early so he wraps up the ending in 3 seconds flat before anyone can click off, and another video just autoplays right after.
@Sleep-NA
@Sleep-NA 10 месяцев назад
The dropperlord is for zerg civilian logistics and should not be put into the army category. How will our drones go on vacation without their civilian aircraft??
@fred.dekker
@fred.dekker 10 месяцев назад
uthermal is a cheese-wizzard
@5ur3nh0hn
@5ur3nh0hn 5 месяцев назад
he is THE cheese-wizzard. It's art.
@timothydavis8388
@timothydavis8388 10 месяцев назад
bro I hate the build in the first game, I've died many times from it (as a toss), all the units are near the wall, I never think to check the main. Great to see it done first person
@aguyinavan6087
@aguyinavan6087 10 месяцев назад
I think if your excited face on the thumbnail gets any more excited you're going to dislocate your jaw.
@sakesaurus
@sakesaurus 10 месяцев назад
Soyfacing
@mazhiwezakizo3513
@mazhiwezakizo3513 10 месяцев назад
I used to play EVE Online with the PirateSoftware guy, he was my CEO in-game, it's crazy seeing him suddenly blow up on RU-vid out of nowhere.
@JonEffinZoidberg
@JonEffinZoidberg 10 месяцев назад
I love this lol. Love both Marc & harstem so that story made me laugh
@rocketrelm1125
@rocketrelm1125 10 месяцев назад
"This is as braindead as it becomes." "High tier multitasking."
@johntravis8894
@johntravis8894 10 месяцев назад
strong against the immortal. "ya no crap" LMAO
@makroshlyta
@makroshlyta 10 месяцев назад
This build feels like old days SC2
@markuskoch293
@markuskoch293 10 месяцев назад
The carpenter strikes again 😅
@darthvade
@darthvade 10 месяцев назад
"Exact timings are for losers!" ,Harstem 😆
@jaeyang9540
@jaeyang9540 10 месяцев назад
I watched that game, Mark would say, that he plays Zerg like a Terran. Zerg version of Maru harassment drops.
@jaeyang9540
@jaeyang9540 10 месяцев назад
You didn't steal his Zerg drop lol. You know Mark likes Terran but plays all races. He isn't great with Zerg, so he plays Zerg like Terran. He hates using Bannelings, lol. Wait till someone like Scarlett experiment with it
@sloanNYC
@sloanNYC 10 месяцев назад
It's funny this many years into playing this game people are still making new builds and playing weird stuff effectively.
@Phi1618033
@Phi1618033 10 месяцев назад
This is so Dutch it's sponsored by Heinekin.
@FloridaManYT
@FloridaManYT 10 месяцев назад
Thermy is a legend
@rossgeiger4575
@rossgeiger4575 10 месяцев назад
We need a series of 2v2 team play harstem and uthermal vs the world
@velocirapper
@velocirapper 10 месяцев назад
I think you could've done some hot pick up micro with the hydra vs roach fight, it's not often you have both hydras and speed dropperlords!
@washyleopard
@washyleopard 10 месяцев назад
Even if you didn't name uthermal in the title, I think a lot of us would have known who you played against!
@StuddMuffinn_YT
@StuddMuffinn_YT 10 месяцев назад
Blizzard: buffs the Hydralisk 5 patches in a row. Zerg only players: Meh lurker eggs. Terran and protoss players: Yo this some gourmet S#!t.
@Ilkanar
@Ilkanar 10 месяцев назад
15:55 NO NO NO NO Dont you dare
@Hermannator
@Hermannator 10 месяцев назад
I ling dropped twice on protoss and it worked very well each time (helps to get the +1 melee attack by the the time the drop happens)
@mothrahlurker788
@mothrahlurker788 10 месяцев назад
If you have +1 by the time your drop hits you did the build completely wrong and hit way too late.
@DaedricGamingHD
@DaedricGamingHD 10 месяцев назад
Dont know if UThermal mentioned it but that build also seems to transition quite quick and efficiently into mutas or just a handdffull to counter colossus/tanks
@HCGamingTV
@HCGamingTV 10 месяцев назад
I watched uThermals game and he was so happy about it, golden :)
@JFox4587
@JFox4587 10 месяцев назад
BGMWSS IDEA! Base trade from behind! We all know Kevin likes to do BGMWSS to try and explore new ideas for his serious gameplay. While many players know how to basetrade decently, most players don't have builds designed for basetrades, nor do they usually execute basetrades effeciently. In this episode, the captain should be behind, and make a come back victory with his basetrade. It's an excellent way to practice while entertaining the masses. Cheers Captain, happy trading :)
@griefgaming2787
@griefgaming2787 10 месяцев назад
You can do it on 1 gas btw. Instead of going into Hydras you can make a ton of drones and a 3rd while they are dealing with the drop.
@JohnHenryJones-u1r
@JohnHenryJones-u1r 10 месяцев назад
Baboon learns starcraft build from Baboon.
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd 10 месяцев назад
9 marines actually beat a colossus.
@littlerockbeltone1653
@littlerockbeltone1653 10 месяцев назад
dang I been rushing 16 ling drops against T & P for a while. I play low Diamond NA and most just 2 base with a wall and rush BC/Carrier so I hit em with the drop early and it crushes. Another strat I revived from olden days is the roach army with banelings hidden in droplords. Marines never see it coming.
@user-cc7xq2ef1f
@user-cc7xq2ef1f 10 месяцев назад
would have loved to see a /dance on the dropperlords
@Komatik_
@Komatik_ 10 месяцев назад
I mean, what's the ultimate lategame Zerg comp? A deployable siege unit, a glass cannon high dps infantry unit, and a snipey caster. That is: Play bug Terran.
@crazyme123ify
@crazyme123ify 10 месяцев назад
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, they found the overload all army glitch
@notcrazy6288
@notcrazy6288 10 месяцев назад
uThermal is a menace.
@Alex-pq2fv
@Alex-pq2fv 10 месяцев назад
cap, the dropperlords not moving might have been if they still had poop mode toggled. iirc having that on means they aren't included in f2 and that when they stop moving they'll immediately start pooping again
@koaieus
@koaieus 10 месяцев назад
Great acheesements right here
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 10 месяцев назад
Plonk down 4 spines as soon as you saw he was going for roaches and I think you would have been in a perfectly playable spot?
@ibfreely8952
@ibfreely8952 10 месяцев назад
We had Fruitdealer, now we have fruitstealer
@space_orphan
@space_orphan 10 месяцев назад
Fruitstealer obviously sells the stolen fruit to Fruitdealer
@74HC138
@74HC138 10 месяцев назад
This is cheesier than most of the stuff on Cheesiest Man Alive!
@jtsyo8364
@jtsyo8364 10 месяцев назад
For the first ling drop, would breaking 6 off to block the path to the ramp net you some more probe kills?
@DarkDodger
@DarkDodger 10 месяцев назад
If you right-click a worker onto a mineral field, it can move through units. If you pay attention, you can see when people use that method to control their worker movement, when they start shifting into each other instead of moving like normal units.
10 месяцев назад
That's basically my build from WoL beta.
@bjornprompeler9424
@bjornprompeler9424 10 месяцев назад
I think as a zerg main I will struggle with this cheese, because it does not use a-move 🤣😋🎉
@dampth9584
@dampth9584 10 месяцев назад
well i just come from ladder and was like let's watch the captain and bam i see the build i just lost to xD
@shieldphaser
@shieldphaser 10 месяцев назад
If it's stupid but works, it's not stupid. As someone once said, if it's not a viable strategy they should be able to beat you.
@altonito777
@altonito777 10 месяцев назад
Against zerg you got to go into ultra / infestor / viper xD
@Talentaire
@Talentaire 10 месяцев назад
Don't count Droperlords as armies @Harstem, thanks !!!! Fine as it is OR add a include/exclude from all army hotkey switch to all units !!!! Would be appreciated :D
@Leeeeegion
@Leeeeegion 10 месяцев назад
Is there anyone with a link to the first game they played, where uthermal did the cheese to harstem?
@tatotato85
@tatotato85 10 месяцев назад
I think that every build that involves lower eco and more/faster use of units will work better for you or Uthermal than Standard play but i dont think is going to translate for most Zerg mains. Trying to say that build like these just fit better ppl doing off-race.
@gightelf
@gightelf 10 месяцев назад
And now I found out that 4 best bizzard streamers (imho) all are Datch. How? Why? Interesting!
@jeremyh1243
@jeremyh1243 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely awesome soy face in the thumbnail. double thumbs up
@Therosx
@Therosx 10 месяцев назад
You and Marc sound a lot alike and not just because you have the same accent. You both share English slang words.
@jellowpy9243
@jellowpy9243 10 месяцев назад
I see Uthermals name … i click and watch the video heeh
@gstgp6337
@gstgp6337 10 месяцев назад
this is why toss opens robo
@giuseppebonatici7169
@giuseppebonatici7169 10 месяцев назад
phoenix early kill the droperlords and you can also suply block the zerg. also more phoenix counter less hydras with good micro. robo is only good if you manage to make phoenix colossus for some reason, or zerg makes roaches. but 2 bases zerg roach vs protoss 3 base anything looses most of the time, especially after investing in droperlords. the oracle killed less than the zerglings as oracles almost never become cost efficient killing workers. it is more of a utility unit. 4 phoenix harass/scout after the 1 phoenix killed a droperlord should just win. if you scout a roach warren, a second stargate with one additional phoenix for queen kill and then void rays. this is a zerg cheese, as with almost any zerg cheese, the thing is that they are more broken than pre nerf cannon rushes, but they are beatable with a really specific response that requires tons of knowledge and preparation, which is why it feels unfair. but nobody cares because the top zergs and dark usually have to go macro against terran.
@glados4765
@glados4765 10 месяцев назад
Of course it was Uthermal.
@Falorik
@Falorik 10 месяцев назад
The hate on Zerg between the lines is real 🐷
@ImakeTanks
@ImakeTanks 10 месяцев назад
I wish they would bring back Wings of Liberty ladder
@chir0pter
@chir0pter 10 месяцев назад
Would it be a viable protoss build to go stargate, allow opponent to just scout void rays (use for ovie hunting, "defense") so opponent doesn't build spores, but actually be building a proxy darkshrine?
@arise3865
@arise3865 10 месяцев назад
nah how nasty is this XD
@echoeversky
@echoeversky 5 месяцев назад
Now can we get TLO to try this build out?
@uku5840
@uku5840 10 месяцев назад
*Me whenever I win a Zerg game* 30:55
@toadofsteel
@toadofsteel 10 месяцев назад
So what is the actual build order? My ZvZ is my strongest matchup by far because it's the only matchup I have nailed down brain dead timings for any build (ling flood in this case). I need something to be aggressive with in the other 2 matchups.
@niccosalonga9009
@niccosalonga9009 3 месяца назад
Stealing Fruits 😆
@enriquegarciacota3914
@enriquegarciacota3914 10 месяцев назад
Collab, when?
@yosumi85
@yosumi85 10 месяцев назад
Welcome to the diamond league, captain!! ;D Hydras are kinda imba, especially when you suck as a low MMR-player.
@JohnHenryJones-u1r
@JohnHenryJones-u1r 10 месяцев назад
You need to make one of those clickbait videos: 12,000 Marines vs colossus with infinite super battery who wins?
@fragmentsofknowledge2142
@fragmentsofknowledge2142 10 месяцев назад
who would you say is the most creative and cheesiest player in the history of SC2 ?
@jacobsvensson8193
@jacobsvensson8193 10 месяцев назад
Why should dropperlords count as army??
@MrFancyGamer
@MrFancyGamer 10 месяцев назад
turns out drops are op! (looking at u terran players)
@boreduser12
@boreduser12 10 месяцев назад
I remember there was a time when snobby SC2 players like Rotterdam and harstem would be like, "oeeooh these loser players, playing not normal builds, oeeooh how stupid, oeeooh ruining our community, oeeooh". But Marc came along and said f all these people,I'm just going to play with an open mind and open heart and innovate and do whatever I feel like doing.
@razenhaubemazenha
@razenhaubemazenha 10 месяцев назад
Have you played against uThermal? Do you have a video?
@panzfaust9812
@panzfaust9812 10 месяцев назад
Uthermal not playing competitive?
@flink85
@flink85 10 месяцев назад
lol i just beat a 600 mmr higher ranked player with this first time I tried it. I am currently 4900 and he was 5500.
@6xCamox9
@6xCamox9 10 месяцев назад
lol I read the same article about the Celestial Steed making more than WoL. Feelsbadman. Great video, Captain
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd 10 месяцев назад
Harstem gets into hyperbole, when he claims units suck, when they aren't that bad, but merely sub-ideal in many situations or amounts. I've been begging for mass hydra drops for a long time actually lol. Point me.
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