I Stopped Using Express.js: Because Bun and Hono 🔥 

The way you can learn from this experience is if YOU make a full-stack app using Bun. His knowledge isn’t magically transferred into your head

Is it that you're not sure how full-stack works? Here. OPEN THE TERMINAL AND RUN > mkdir HotelTrivago > cd HotelTrivago > bun init > bun install express cors CREATE FILE CALLED "server.js" IN THE "HotelTrivago" FOLDER THEN BUILD AN API THAT SPITS OUT SOME TEXT USING THE BELOW CODE START CODE BLOCK const express = require('express'); const cors = require('cors'); const app = express(); app.use(cors()); app.get('/', (req, res) => { res.send("Trivago"); }); app.listen(3000, () => { console.log('listening on port 3000'); }); END CODE BLOCK BACK TO THE TERMINAL AND START UP THIS BAD BOY > bun server.js OPEN BROWSER AND GO TO 'localhost:3000/' AND BEHOLD, OUR SERVER/API HAS RESPONDED WITH THE WORD "Trivago" NOW WRITE A CLIENT APP THAT USES THIS API ENDPOINT CREATE AN "index.html" FILE ANYWHERE, OPEN WITH A TEXT EDITOR AND INSERT THIS MARKUP START MARKUP BLOCK async function clickityclickity() { let response = await fetch('localhost:3000'); let data = await response.text(); document.querySelector('p').innerHTML = data; } Hotel? Click Me END MARKUP BLOCK NOW OPEN "index.html" WITH A BROWSER CLICK THE BUTTON AND BEHOLD THE "Hotel?" TURNS INTO A "Trivago" FULL STACK, BABY

I've tried a couple of time to make it works but failed! Can't wait to see the video!

Man just ditch React and Client frameworks once and for all. You have JSX on the server with these. What else do you need?

I'd love to see that too. Where I work, we use Next.js (page router) for a big web app and the DX is terrible. The dev server crashed at least one a day and take close to 2GB of memory. All I care about in Next if getServerSideProps(), so if I could use something lightweight to replace it, that would be awesome.

beth stack but hono ​@@jarnathan-snow

It’s here he just posted it. It was more of a walkthrough but so far has been very enjoyable.

Same here! I was looking for this comment

yep

It’s pretty straight forward though, anyone with react and express knowledge will pick this up in an hour.

It doesn't take any time to learn this if you already know express. That was the point of bun, to supercede node, express, npm, but actually fast since it runs on zig.

JS developers are sick to be honest they always run for new things without any need, searching for the perfect library or runtime or framework and they never find one or will. I am a js developer but the community is just too much, and I am not against developing more libraries that are better, but not hundred of solutions for the same problem and most of them are the same

Google is your friend: "Node.js vs Deno vs Bun: Express hello world server benchmarking"

Luckily hono supports node too

​@@WillDelishtrue

JS developers are sick to be honest they always run for new things without any need, searching for the perfect library or runtime or framework and they never find one or will. I am a js developer but the community is just too much, and I am not against developing more libraries that are better, but not hundred of solutions for the same problem and most of them are the same

Don’t forget drizzle

Did you ever test elysia i'm looking for something performant and reliable

It’s not opinionated like next, so you would just have to create your own layout components. You could make it work however you want but you wouldn’t get default caching behaviour or default 404 or error pages.

I don't think 404 pages or error pages are that much difficult to handle. But I can't say the same about caching. Caching seems very hard. If you could make a video on caching different parts of your website i.e mixing database caching, CDN caching and all that good stuff, that would be really good. @@SamMeechWard

it is not. Have you tried nesting guards?

​@@jarnathan-snowyh that's a chore but I prefer beforehandle function

It’s been awesome, only great things to say about using bun. I’ve been deploying to fly.io.

@@SamMeechWard Wow! will definitely try it. Thanks

Definites on what a production app is - if you mean an app with thousands of live users, then Bun isn't stable for that.

@@mdmathewdc Please share your experience.

We have few public API running with bun, it is just great.

Nope use deno …

I’ve used Prisma with hono and bun. No problem.

@@elephant_888 can you share the setup docs?

try out drizzle.team

And the fact I get 0 users lol

In YT you have a great option to slow down the playback speed of a video and also an advanced button called "pause".🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️

@@blender_wiki will this magic button also give all the context that I need? Is not the speed of the video that is fast... but the flow... but thanks for such a lovely condesending and mansplaining comment! We def. need more of these!

Its developed by one person. Just like express.js

alfred