I Successfully Ran PCVR From A Phone!

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In today's video, we are finally making mobile PCVR happen on mobile hardware. In our quest to prove that PCVR could be run on a quest standalone without a PC, we have acquired another device that will help us do so. Today we will be using a Xiaomi Mi Pad 5, installing windows on it and checking if PCVR would run on a Qualcomm Snapdragon 860 SoC. The answer is yes, yes it will. I managed to get PCVR working on this chip using Windows On Arm and connecting to my Quest 2 and Quest Pro using Virtual Desktop. How well it ran? Well, I guess you will have to watch the video to find out! I hope you enjoy :D
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@sethdomings9262 Год назад

Insane what mobile hardware is capable of. Cant wait for future hardware to advance and be able to play PCVR titles with no issues.

@nyulia4491 Год назад

mobile hardware are getting closer and closer powerfull as an light capable pcvr hardware we just have to wait

@ericwheelhouse4371 Год назад

yeah. too bad no one is creating an OS to utilize their power. Android is land locked by it's own limitations, Apple is too controling, Microsoft only cares about desktop, Linux community is SO focused on "we are so open sourced that we can't standardize anything for normie users only developers can really utilize our OS properly" community involvement that they hinder their own production making adoption too slow thus actually good projects fall through. maybe, just maybe, valve is the only one smart enough to utilize ARM fully for gaming and VR capabilities while also having Linux developers piggy backing on those users brought to their platform/OS ecosystem.

@PurpleGorilla_Guy Год назад

iphone?

@vidal9747 Год назад

@@ericwheelhouse4371 I almost felt like defending Linux, but then I realized that you're totally right. I love Linux and daily drive it, but it in fact lacks standardization across distros. Maybe snaps could solve it, but they also have some problems. But sincerely, if you are new to Linux just use them.

@KWez256 Год назад

😎🙌

@Administrator_O-5 Год назад

Your Mom rocks! It's awesome that she understands the importance of supporting your interest. I'm 46 & my mom still gives me crap about tech anything & I was a Network Engineer for 20+ years!

@voltagemike4457 Год назад

thats kinda sad, pretty sure usually parents who gets it are into tech themselves, including my own mom. the only thing i was really righting is the reasonnable screen times, or priorities, thats it ( of course i got specials conditions so thats aint full truth, but specifically parent issues on this, pretty much )

@dkongvr Год назад

Big man of you support others even if you are not as fortunate

@uncraftbar Год назад

The quest/pico headset not only have more performance, they also dont have to stream the game over virtual desktop wich takes a bit performance away. Great to see it working.

@JayOhm Год назад

This. BeatSaber was quite smooth on the tablet's screen, it was the other end of the stream on Quest that lagged and stuttered.

@THEIKIGAIEXPERIENCE Год назад

this needs more recognition. having XR technology run natively without being tethered to a PC whilst still having top performance and fluidity for different experiences will be a game changer. I can see improved and powerful ARM-based CPUs being the future of this technology. (Don't forget, Apple has the powerful and efficient ARM-based "M" Series chips put in Macbooks and iPads.) All-in-all, we have the technology, we just need the focus on XR innovation.

@zackhack_gamer2487 Год назад

Laptops be like:everywhere,anytime I have no issues with my laptop running PCVR games

@thedoomslayer5863 Год назад

@@zackhack_gamer2487 that's not it at all. We're talking about every headset being able to run to a PC without any physical wires connecting the two but still perform as if it were wired. That's the future. Standalone won't be anywhere near PC level for many years still if ever but making wireless perform as wired does now is the hope here.

@THEIKIGAIEXPERIENCE Год назад

@@zackhack_gamer2487 I agree with ya. PCVR is very powerful compared to stand-alone VR devices. BUT, being tethered to an external power source defeats the purpose of true physical and "virtual'' freedom and could be a plausible cause for discomfort. the future is wireless. the future is portability. any time, anywhere.

@nerddeku9675 4 месяца назад

we already have the snapdragon X Elite from qualcoom which is much more powerful than the snapdragon XR 2 Gen 2 from quest 3, using foveated rendering would be even better, i really hope meta creates an extremely powerful VR/AR headset similar to the apple vision pro but without all the defects it has.

@sudilos1172 Год назад

My friend, you are dangeriously close to making your own VR gear =D

@Meianju Год назад

Cool little project. After seeing this I have the feeling one of Lynx's two future headsets just might be able to do this properly X)

@AmiralXII Год назад

It’s really cool to see you experiment with this !!!

@YoungMoneyFuture Год назад

Love you bro! Your passion & great content brightens my day and motivates me to learn how to Dev!

@P2bowish Год назад

Dude you’re not be of the best people for vr news. You helped me a lot with sidequest and pcvr so thank you alot!!! Anyways thanks mysticle byyyeeeeeeeee

@Hayden.999 Год назад

this makes me so excited for the future of vr

@EarlyHusky 10 месяцев назад

OK message before the video, I swear if its pluto sphere... After video, yo this is sick! Mystical I love your videos, they make me happy :)

@bioticsla Год назад

Yes love crazy experimental videos like this

@Dexterity_Boost Год назад

Wow thats soo cool how much far tech has come

@Disabled_Toad Год назад

you i've did this on my chromebook and it is epic. Keep up the great content! (not the same proccess (kinda) but steam vr still runs)

@adr2t Год назад

Really it just comes down to API support (for features and performance improvements at the game engine level) and GPU (for running everything) CPU doesnt matter as much as most games try to use the CPU as little as possible anyways. Neat idea and it goes to show there is a lot of room for stuff like this in the future (such as a puck).

@capyvr_ Год назад

Hello it is me capybara I am back

@coyoteboi9291 Год назад

glad youre back

@mythtorrent1808 Год назад

Hello capybara I'm glad your back

@Giga1023 Год назад

Welcome back friend 🎉

@Rolaniscool Год назад

I will kill you in 7 days capybara!!! ❤❤❤❤❤

@theholypickle4861 Год назад

HE IS BACK

@joristhepony4518 Год назад

Thx for including my friend @Arminas 0:57 - 1:00 in here. Appreciate it @The Mysticle

@RazzleBloq Год назад

Idk what’s better the fact that your playing beat saber on a tablet or that your arms look like forklifts while playing.

@pineapple-rr5hl Год назад

This running on red magic 8 pro over clocked would be awesome. This gives me hope for the value deckerd

@meareAaron Год назад

i wonder if you can do the same to a steamdeck and have the steam deck screan act like an side by side screen like with the oldschool vr googles for phones

@rhetz1562 Год назад

Oooo I like where ur going with this

@Its_A_Gundam Год назад

I like where this is going

@SirQuacksalotthe1st Год назад

Dam I remember finding out about this a few years back and was amazed at it it's come so far damm

@gaminginstilllife9429 Год назад

Makes me wonder Valves next stand-alone headset based off of Steam Deck tech

@leroydorenberg295 Год назад

very cool video!!!!

@ariasavirgo9171 Год назад

It’s so crazy it just might work

@PixelSheep Год назад

The fact that the Xiaomi Unlook process takes at least one week shows just how dedicated you are :D writing this from my custom ROM Redmi Note 10 Pro :D It's really stupid they artificially make you wait for 7 days ^^ it's annoying af

@ukupacha5033 Год назад

I’m like how did you get Danny DeVito in your video???? 😂

@TheMysticle Год назад

I asked very nicely xD

@liamcollinson5695 Год назад

What a good idea it does make me wonder how well the redmagic 8 pro would do with it being a 8 gen 2 and having upto 16gb of ram and a fan to keep it chilled

@LitoMike Год назад

i love how in the thumbnail it implies that he's running pcvr (well more like phonevr) on a quest 2 (standalone headset)

@TheMysticle Год назад

I honestly can't figure out how you read it like that.

@ian2057 Год назад

nice algorithm pleasing thumbnail

@TheMysticle Год назад

🤣

@oculusgounlocked Год назад

You might have also tried connecting with Riftcat and ALVR

@somentertainment Год назад

Its amazing! Did you try to play pc games like left 4 dead, or the result 0ll be the same of the last try?

@Jesushatesyoujessica Год назад

Shadow pc! Works perfect, I started up my phone qnd turn on my vr.

@brunky8554 Год назад

That’s crazy! The only objection though is that meta probably would do everything in their power not to allow steam vr. Next time you should try boneworks

@c1ips0official31 Месяц назад

this is deffinitly a viable use case for gaming phones

@foreverstream Год назад

Would be cool to see this tried with a optimized version of windows like tiny 10 or atlas os if possible

@thedoomslayer5863 Год назад

I await the day Linux or some other OS can have 1:1 simplicity and ease of use with windows but not be a buggy, restricted, spyware filled mess like windows.

@jaysoegaard 5 месяцев назад

This is the future of Vr . Just the tech needs to be improved. A flagship spatial computing phone is the way to go

@DevVRAR Год назад

Would be amazing to see this on a Red Magic 8Pro plus which has the same chip as Quest 3 and allows you to fully up the clock speeds with Diablo Mode.

@ekointothefuture6743 Год назад

Oh man, I would so love to have stand alone PCVR..Right now I PCVR from a Cloud PC until I can afford a real computer. So long as I have access to decent Wifi I can do PCVR anywhere with my Quest 2, but it isn't perfect. I'm at the bare minimum requirements for internet speed to PCVR. In a few weeks tho I'll be upgrading my internet massively. Love this vid. More technology mashups please.

@plasticlife283 Год назад

I don't know all the specifics that go into this. I would have to research myself, but I was seriously looking into doing this on my unlocked S23 Ultra. I'm a tinkerer, so I'm not afraid to do it. It would certainly be interesting if it worked well.

@plasticlife283 Год назад

I should also note that I have the 1TB 12GB RAM version, so it should have more than enough storage and RAM.

@voltagemike4457 Год назад

same , never running android stock, for audio processing reasons mainly , but quest 2 is not something i enjoy more so let alone this

@Horendus123 Год назад

I bet valve already has beat Saber running at 90 FPS on an arm chip via steam VR somewhere in a dark lab

@chrisschristov475 Год назад

Rendering on both screens doesn't help 😂 overall amazing video 🎉

@susantuna3434 Год назад

This just made me wish windows phones still where a thing I miss those Nokia with windows on them I love them

@yagizeraslan Год назад

If Snapdragon 860 can perform like this, I wonder how the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chipped devices (like Samsung S23, Xiaomi 13) would perform 🤔

@thedoomslayer5863 Год назад

Maybe by Samsung S300 it will run and look good wireless as wired does now lol

@user-es4wm6un1t Год назад

doesnt the oculus quest use a much weaker chipster than 860 yet maanges to run many vr games?

@Yipper64 Год назад

im very certain that once AR gets to the point it can replace your smartphone, it will. I imagine advertisers would love to *constantly* be able to show you ads, among other things. But also just the convenience of not even having to take your phone out of your pocket. the fact that phones now can run PC vr means that when that does happen it could also replace our computers. I wouldnt be sure on that, but I guess thats possible.

@layloepscopata4679 Год назад

Awesome

@vrmonsi Год назад

The main detail I’m focused on and trying to understand is how did steam vr just open? I watched this video 3 times and don’t know how steamvr opened with no issues, would love a update!

@FoolianSlip Год назад

damn it'd be so sick if they bring back the cardboard headset and you just use your phone for modern vr. it would make vr way more accessable for everybody maybe you could just connect a bluetooth controller too

@mageenderman Год назад

Wild

@BloodSinEngraved Год назад

Over a year ago I was trying everything to find a way to get vr running. My lady and I are for lack of a better word poor. I had gotten her used headsets in the past but the old potato PC I have barely runs what we play. Eventually I sold off a few things to get her a Quest 2. I would have loved not being forced to be part of the Facebook data collection team.

@cobwebblocks Год назад

have you tested tiny10 / tiny11 (windows but less usages), might not work for renegade but idk, maybe?

@enthusiastvoid Год назад

the beat saber on this ran as good as my intel i5 4570 could run this with its igpu

@salbyoo 4 месяца назад

imagine that rog gaming phone or some other gaming phone, that would be sick!

@JamieCrew Год назад

Now you can conceptualize how powerful pcs are.

@S1PH0NVR Год назад

@The-Visu Год назад

you did WHAT NOW?!

@Deathbatman Год назад

I think if you used an Ethernet adapter the fps on virtual desktop would be working better

@nerddeku9675 4 месяца назад

Imagine a redmagic 10 pro with a snapdragon 8 gen 4 and 16GB or more of ram, using the foveated rendering of a quest pro or other headset, what a monster that would be.

@TheTytan007 Год назад

5:24 It's not just an ARM chip. It's and ARM chip that isn't even supported by both Microsoft and Qualcomm to run anything, but Android and it's still pretty impresive. Supported devices give even better performance, because they get all the up-to-date drivers and use chips made for Windows I think that Microsoft's emulation layer is actually good. You've been running it on a chip that is weaker than any chip designed to use with Windows made after 2019. And yet you managed to do game on this.

@Nobody-Nowhere Год назад

So it made the job simulator more realistic?

@kirobean Год назад

its only a matter of time until someone makes a modified version of windows to be able to run windows and pcvr games natively on the quest 2/pro

@grisu1934 Год назад

Would be interesting af on my zfold 4

@Partyfreaker Год назад

So the Quest 3 could do The Forest Native 😁

@Chwill76 Год назад

Imagine being able to do it on an iPhone 15 with the usb c and the unlocked app stores

@duk6897 Год назад

what if we try getting pcvr running standalone on the quest 2/pro? would there be a way to maybe install windows or maybe a virtual machine?

@moorishstar Год назад

I like it a lot, but wouldn't standalone PC vr also work on a Steam Deck which is more powerful? Granted the deck is an actual PC by itself, but it's none the less a handheld and standalone device.

@PracarYT Год назад

It can somewhat run vr games Even half life alyx at 60 fps But steam deck was turning its fans at full maximum so steam deck theoratically can run very simple titles but it definitely need just little more power for it to run vr

@raphaeltrombini4142 Год назад

You should try it on your Pico 4 man, the OS is incredibly open and there were some gossip about people trying to root the device. It is basically a full fledged android 10 over there

@flamingscar5263 Год назад

Without bootloader accsess you can't, plus you need the stock OS on the actual headset because without it you just have a glorified screen glued to your head, the OS is what handles tracking data, no OS, no tracking

@voltagemike4457 Год назад

i may be missunderstanding the appeal of this ngl, the point of using a phone is having absolutly 0 VR capable pc accessible, your pico is most definitly more powerfull or optimised than this

@federal5688 Год назад

maybe we will able to mod pcvr in the quest 3 since it will be way more powerful than the quest 2 right?

@Megamind283 Год назад

Wow I'm surprised you could get it to work

@KevinNhi Год назад

I wonder how well it'll run on a better hardware without a whole bunch of background processes which windows has

@SamuelFlores-ih2qo Год назад

Yay

@RidgeVR Год назад

Try it again with SteamOS and ALVR!

@Zuggeerr Год назад

It's a hard topic to crack. There must be interest in pcvr from hardware and software developers. Sure, someone could just take an amd chip with decent rdna graphics and throw it into goggles with some fancy modified windows or linux with proton, but power constraints, heat distribution would be hard to overcome, and the headset itself might be too heavy. On the other hand, I think it's still better to have a decent laptop to run pcvr, but perhaps in the future we'll have a 3080 performance tablet/phone chip that justifies the usefulness of such an idea of running pcvr on it.

@PixelSheep Год назад

Does the Pen input on the Mi Pad 5 still work when using it with Windows? That would be a game changer :D

@phaphachboy Год назад

Wonder how well it would work with steamos

@Cart1416 Год назад

I wanted to do this but my US S22 Ultra isn't supported by Windows yet

@jupiter4264 Год назад

Does this mean PCVR for M1 Mac is finally coming since phone is ARM and Mac is ARM?

@evadoodleVR Год назад

Next try gorilla tag on the setup

@Goosboi Год назад

you should try again with tiny 11 or atlas os

@charliepettigrew2818 Год назад

i just thought, does that tablet have a proper graphics card? if not, imagine the possibilities if it was done properly, with a GPU!

@proteinchips Год назад

If you are to ever make another video demonstrating this you need to try Minecraft VR as you can already run Minecraft on ARM natively.

@TheMysticle Год назад

It unfortunately doesn't start 🙁

@Cocomonk. Год назад

You should do gorilla tag because my computer isn’t even vr ready but I can still play with a 740 Hz graphics card

@ryuhayabusa400 Год назад

This is the real deal of contwnt Mystical😎👌👌👌👌👌👌💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐

@deth_boi3284 Год назад

If you manna make it budget, you gotta use the wiimotes.

@Hughesburner 9 месяцев назад

I just found the lost Super Carlin Brother.

@LonesTechAdventures Год назад

You should run VRChat on it

@Kat-01 Год назад

You should try Minecraft VR lmao

@shadowswithin702 Год назад

So is it possible on the steam deck, I mean that has steam on it already? I don't know what the chip or ram is in them, but maybe it's possible...

@stephaniewilliams3871 Год назад

🤯

@proxivirus Год назад

Do I need to try this out on M1 iPad Pro using QEMU? 🤔💭 Edit: AltStore has a bug right now so this test is gonna have to wait until they fix it

@mizofps 4 месяца назад

strap a mini pc on ur chest and a battery in ur pocket, connect a vr headset to the mini pc and try playing the forest in a forest

@subcomandanteche7039 Год назад

Wow

@MynicknameisViolet Год назад

Soon we can do pcvr standalone on quest?? Hell yeah!

@secondcut3138 Год назад

How about the Microsoft surface pro 7 or above, tablet/laptop with an i7 processor

@635574 Год назад

So can we just run desktop game son mobile now? Warframe is working on a mobile port but the beta is not available on android yet and I want to see if a Decent phone can play full warframe when using mouse and keyboard