I Take the 2023 Honda Pilot TrailSport Where Most Won't!

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( www.alltfl.com ) We finally have a chance to take a production version of the 2023 Honda Pilot TrailSport off-road: Did Honda nail its goal of a capable family hauler, or should you keep it to the pavement. Kase tests it out on the Arizona trails!
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@bcluett1697 Год назад

Here because Sarah N Tuned mentioned you in her Pilot Trailsport vid and had to come see your guys take!

@MRios1128 7 месяцев назад

That's a man

@craigroosa9321 Год назад

Have watched several of these reviews in AZ and Kase does the most polished review yet ! Very nice job at presenting the Pilot and features . Kudos to Kase !!

@willhutton1516 Год назад

I think that’s the thing these off-road guys forget. AWD works as you accelerate and continue to press the gas. It doesn’t work effectively doing a “stop and go” style of driving. If wheels slip, keep on accelerating, and let the AWD do its thing.

@DM-fv7hw Год назад

I'm looking forward to the Ridgeline Trailsport.

@douglasvieira1990dv Год назад

I have been towing everyday for two years with my 2012 Honda Pilot and I just have to say that v6 is a strong reliable engine just gotta do the routine maintence

@jodensmith5093 Год назад

Great video. Love all the angles off road

@bryanfreeland Год назад

Would be cool to have an off-road comparison between the TS and Elite to see the real world difference. It’s too bad you can’t have the TS as a package on other trims.

@Ram14250 Год назад

Agree. Leather interior ... cooled seats is a must for summer time heat. I'd rather have cloth but that's another argument. I also think a 3 way, Kia Telluride, and both Passport models!

@matriximaster Год назад

There would be no difference aside from an inch worth of bottoming out.

@danhughes1814 Год назад

This. Why can't us poors buy a TS Sport?

@Ram14250 Год назад

Case: You are one of the best testers along with Tommy. I can tell just by the way you confidently handle the steering wheel you are one-with the car and really know what's it's doing and feel it. You are a true "car-guy"! Okay, so this is another "Honda Sponsored" event. When will you get one to test on your own?? I'm very impressed for what it is! A 7 passenger Family SUV. I don't think you want a family hauler with 11" of ground clearance... the kids won't be able to get in! I would personally like a Passport version with all the skip plate goodness and then I'd lift it 1- 1-1/2" and put some real off-road tires on it. 🙂 This is only the beginning as Honda is starting to really get their act together. The next Passport will be even better and have more ground clearance!

@dougbrady5955 Год назад

Great review. Glad someone did a thorough review of the Trailsport and not just the Elite. Hoping in the near future we get an update with the 12" monitor from the Accord and full digital gauge cluster. I hate the half and half look.

@b104396 4 месяца назад

You guys are one of the best car reviewers on line. Very professional, detailed with our being boring or over explained. Thanks Case

@markboozer3234 Год назад

Somewhere around Sedona would be my guess. Those towering sandstone buttes are beautiful!! I grew up in Flagstaff. And the Sedona area was always our favorite road trip setting.

@grizzle273463 11 месяцев назад

My god what an indepth review. So well researched and demonstrated. 3 thumbs up

@coreybatorski9626 Год назад

Awesome presentation

@anaximender3648 Год назад

Great review! Quality presentation without unnecessary yap yap.

@michaelpeterson5396 Год назад

Hear me out, add one maybe two inches of lift and put some more rugged/aggressive tires and, beyond rock crawling, you could pretty much go almost anywhere.

@chrissweisberger7509 Год назад

you and sarah did great on the tests

@stevewilcoxson7173 Год назад

Looks Perfect to take you to your favorite Campground.🚙

@sha6mm Год назад

Nice Review !

@Julian-do7bv Год назад

At least they put you guys on a decent trail to actually test the vehicle made it work some and definitely scraped a few times

@notaqua Год назад

YES, Honda! Keep the Jeep Grand Cherokee honest. Give us that competition. Need more offroad capable midsize SUVs

@waterloo123100 Год назад

Off road capable and fwd doesn’t make sense to me. Its hardly a SUV more like a crossover.

@Gyppor 10 месяцев назад

This young man is truly an excellent presenter. I'm very impressed, keep him around!

@longboat4726 Год назад

It's about time we get to see what the i-VTM4 can do with some A/T tires! Will be interesting to see what this does on the roller test. As I understand it, Honda has some type of electronic "line-lock" to transfer torque between the front wheels (the iVTM4 does this automatically for the rear wheels) to the wheel with traction... this may be on TrailSport only.

@trailrunnah8886 Год назад

Check out JonDZ Adventures. He has a modded Passport, and he does some pretty aggressive trails with it.

@the_jarmel Год назад

👏👏👏🙏 GOOD JOB KASE 🙏... AND TFL CAMERA NINJA...COOL ANGLES 👏👏👏 ... HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️

@CrazyGreek80 Год назад

I get what Honda is aiming for but they are more for sand and snow not jeep trails. Unless your Jon DZ adventure and you lift your passport 3.5" then you have a chance. The fit, finish and reliability is still miles above any domestic ie Bronco Sport.

@fonz-ys6xu Год назад

That color blue against that beautiful landscape is awesome! Not sure I'd pick it for my daily commute through rural MI though.

@krane15 Год назад

If you say so. I felt like upchucking.

@fonz-ys6xu Год назад

@Krane lol. Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm just tired of grey skies and snow on the ground I guess :)

@elliottlee1050 Год назад

Why not? You'd SEE it in a Sea, an OCEAN of BLA Grey or Beige of the day! Life is way too short for Bla Beige! Trust😂

@nlken7175 Год назад

Honda needs to up their game with the Ridgeline. Factory 2" lift and beefier tires would help.

@Ram14250 Год назад

Wait for the new model next year. Hint hint!!

@USA__WILL Год назад

Thanks for this review. We have the pilot and passport on our radar to upgrade from our civic

@Jedi_Luke Год назад

An aftermarket lift and beefier tires would make this thing much better.

@rustlesee Год назад

Better is subjective. A lift on a unibody is more like walking on your tip toes, versus actually being a taller person. Better tires, I’ll totally give you. Tires always make a vehicle.

@Jedi_Luke Год назад

@@rustlesee Definitely not an extreme lift, I'm talking like 1-2 inches. Think of it as a short person wearing shoes with thicker soles. Taller tires would would most likely require said lift for clearance issues. These stock tires don't look very tall. Until a Pilot goes body on frame it will never be a serious off roading vehicle, but improvements can be done to anything if a person is willing to spend the $. That's objective. I totally agree about the tires tho.

@robervin9107 Год назад

Kase yas. You magnificent human. being good work man

@Earlywinters09 Год назад

I'm not going to sell my Wrangler just yet, but great review. Covered what I wanted to know

@WW-wf8tu Год назад

Hope you had a nice time in AZ. Did you get a chance to talk to other journalists like Ryan? He had a nice long review on this vehicle and had a lot of good things to say about it. You did not drive yours as gingerly I think. 😆 Nicely done Kase.

@yissibiiyte Год назад

When I think of Honda I think of...Moab

@Redhawk24 Год назад

That’s Sedona

@theglitch99 Год назад

Imagine your new 50k Honda and you grind down your skid plates like the ones he showed! WARRANTY VOID!

@digitalgulby Год назад

What’s funny is that Honda actually believes this to be a competitor to the 4Runner TRD Pro

@Humandriver5280 Год назад

Get a bloody low range and real clearance.

@mussels64 Год назад

The trans buttons SUCK!

@ScoobyDo2009 Год назад

For what it is, this is great, however it has LESS ground clearance than a Subaru Outback (which has 9.5”!). I think Honda could have done better in that area. Otherwise I love the look of this, and it’s bound to sell VERY well.

@ricatiman Год назад

It was impressive to see how well the 4 wd system worked. Overall, a great looking SUV.

@silentbuccaneer4569 Год назад

Hope you had fun with Sarah-N-Tuned. She gave you guys a little shout out with a little arrow pointing to whom ever was videoing you. Kind of neat that two of my favorite RU-vid Channels are at the same place. She goes in to a little more technical detail and likes to crawl under the vehicles(usually she has a lift, but not today).

@aaronerickson8878 Год назад

Sarah-N-Trooned

@apache4541 Год назад

i want see 2023 Honda pilot trailsport vs 2023 Nissan pathfinder Rock Creek! I missing past 1990 Japanese SUVS sweet spot🥰

@jocap7993 Год назад

Like you I miss pre-2000 vehicles. The new models just don't work for me. My 89 Nissan hardbody v6 SE still gets 22 mpg an gets me where I want to go here in Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah an Nevada. (260000 an still going)

@rustlesee Год назад

Well, this has about a half inch more ground clearance. Plus the AWD system is really close to the Acura one. For my money, I’d pick this over Nissan.

@Starbreaker666 Год назад

I think I really liked that....

@toddfeltman3748 Год назад

I realize it messes with fuel economy, but 8" of ground clearance on an "off road" vehicle with a longer wheelbase is just not enough. Adjustable ride height features add complexity and cost, but it would also give the vehicle capability to traverse more terrains that would otherwise abuse its skid plates.

@akositiklis Год назад

I think that is Sarah-n-tuned at the back

@CarnutMM 6 месяцев назад

Way to go Honda

@davidheckart639 Год назад

20 MPG combined? LOL, that’s EXACTLY what I’m getting in my V6 Bronco!

@johnt6673 Год назад

I did notice him bashing on the Broncos fuel mileage. I said huh? I have heard of plenty of people getting 18-20 with their four door's. People with the bronco sports are mid to high 20's. He needs to get a clue...

@trailrunnah8886 Год назад

Yeah, this time of year I typically get 19.5 combined in my 5th gen 4Runner. The mileage on this is disappointing considering the price.

@electrikoptik Год назад

Your Bronco won’t last as long as this Honda. And this Honda is a crossover 😂

@disco.lemonade Год назад

@@trailrunnah8886 About the same as non hybrid Highlander, AWD Telluride, and AWD Pathfinder, costing about the same. Not sure why it would be disappointing if all the non-hybrid players fall in about the same mpg.

@trailrunnah8886 Год назад

@@disco.lemonade Fair enough. I usually don't follow this segment, so I wasn't aware of the mileage. I thought by now they have them getting a little bit better mileage, more like 25 combined. I'm just comparing this to my Toyota 4Runner. That's 20-year-old technology and is rated at 17/21, not really that far behind this more modern vehicle that's less capable.

@gerardoantonio9001 Год назад

Lol you found one!!! Here in Canada it is more than a year waiting list. Buy the way that car with 5 passengers will never go true that route

@Eightball2516 Год назад

Would be much better if it had better ground clearance.

@disco.lemonade Год назад

No shit, Sherlock

@RangerRickTV Год назад

Would the Forester wilderness complete this course?

@johnnytorres277 Год назад

I love Honda and Toyota but the 2023 Honda Pilot TrailSport is rated at 18 city 23 highway, so I might as well keep my Tacoma which is lifted 3 inches, has 32 inch all terrains, and gets me 16 to 17 city and 21 to 22 highway. I would only be getting 1 to 2 MPG better and would be sacrificing way too much offroad. Its still impressive though if you dont mind frequently scraping the hell out of your underbody. I've been on that same trail and never scraped once or had any slipping.

@RChero1010 4 месяца назад

Your Tacoma is nowhere near as comfortable, nor does it have 3 rows of seating. Yeah they could've lifted it more (but that's fighting against rollover safety) but it still has to live up to the expectation of a comfy street car that happens to survive moderate trails

@nacenine Год назад

I don’t see any footage of “The Steps” at Broken Arrow. Did you take on that obstacle in the Pilot or did you bypass it?

@cue03 Год назад

I wonder how it would have handled the trail if you left it in the Normal driving mode instead of switching to the Trail mode?

@tallll70 Год назад

it truly looks like response of slipping condition is much faster now

@kyawzintheik4645 Год назад

We love tough car 🇲🇲

@gromit576 Год назад

8" maximum ground clearance, but the converter underneath is hanging even lower; hence we hear the metal grinding sound even on tiny bumps. My 2021 Subaru Crosstrek has 8.7" clearance. In this video alone we heard about 5 metal grinds! I don't care about the stitching or the tactile knobs.

@toddfeltman3748 Год назад

9.5" would be good for what this vehicle purports to be. Badging be damned, I couldn't care less about advertising its off-road "prowess". They got the off-road robots sorted, or so it seems - now to add some clearance to give the skidders a little bit of a reprieve...

@Ampedup562 2 месяца назад

I'm really considering a Honda Pilot, if l'm honest with myself this is all the SUV need. love the fact that it doesn't have a Turbo and rather has a V6 NA which equals reliability. And also, lI'm not sure if I would be comfortable rock climbing with my brand new 60K off-road truck/SUV so who am kidding. If really want to go off-roading would just buy a Honda SXS or a Polaris and tow it with my super comfortable Honda Pilot

@ryanevans2655 Год назад

Would love to see an off-road comparison of the high level “soft-roader” trims- Subaru’s Wilderness vs Honda’s Trailsport vs Nissan’s Rock Creek

@ExaltedDuck Год назад

Don't forget GMC's Acadia AT-4. 😂

@scottcassidy6852 Год назад

Add the Toyota Rav4 Adventure and TRD trims into that as well

@mahhty4279 Год назад

Seems slightly better than the passport

@leonelsantamaria9653 Год назад

I want to see the Subaru Ascent vs this trailsport

@RChero1010 4 месяца назад

Subaru has let their AWD system go once they went to open rear diffs and brake modulated traction control. The ivtm4 is the same as SH-AWD from Acura products since the pilot is an MDX with different suspension and a third row. It's a very capable AWD system that Subaru hasn't matched. It would still be a good comparison to watch though

@southsidetom Год назад

Is the removable center seat available in this trim?

@michaelcoffey7362 Год назад

Cool 🥰

@remembermorrison Год назад

Continental Terrain Contact A/T are excellent mild A/T tires. Pretty suprising that Honda put such "aggressive" A/Ts on it. They have very high rolling resistance, so MPG will absolutely be impacted. That Pilot TS needs a lift from the factory. I'm surprised they said they developed it on that trail, since it was smacking the ground quite a bit.

@ValkenDnB Год назад

I agree. Another inch and a half or slightly bigger tires would help

@disco.lemonade Год назад

Its not just to lift it up and call it a day lmao.

@killaforniak3874 Год назад

This is a SUV id buy for the wifey and still be fine driving it myself. Might just trade in the 14 Pilot for this....

@juanreyes3336 Год назад

It’s a bummer that third seat isn’t an option in the second row.

@stephbarbershop2518 Год назад

Can it complete the Alpine Loop?

@Broncoguy561 Год назад

Would love to see this compared to the Bronco Sport

@rustlesee Год назад

Not even a comparison, at all. The length and weight kill this off road, if you’re comparing them. BS has more ground clearance too. This is a great option for families that like to adventure on the weekends though.

@Mcjesus97 Год назад

Dude the bronco sport is a joke. I almost bought it a year ago until every girl with a latte drives it around New England. I hope your not comparing an over priced bronco with something that will last for 10 years. It’s a hybrid of basic off-road and regular every day use. Bronco is so ugly looking

@Max-wd8ox Год назад

the. problem is for the same price you gonna be able to get a 4 runner

@notsecure Год назад

10:05 This is not the TrailSport model, want to know how noisy with the all terrain tires.

@xavierhulbert5849 Год назад

8:16 I would double check with the manual that this is an appropriate recovery point. These are put here so that you can attach catch chains on trailers. I’d imagine if they can hold the weight of a trailer, they could also pull the car, but still double check.

@NFAA-NotFunnyAtAll Год назад

Honda designed both the front and rear recovery points to hold twice the GVWR.

@rickyloganjr.2362 Год назад

Kase 🙂.

@KPHVAC Год назад

I want a real Trail Sport like this for the Honda Passport!

@DirtRoadHymns Год назад

The pilot and the Ridgeline need timing chains! Why does the odyssey get a timing chain but not Pilot or Ridgeline?

@popodalovo Год назад

The camera man breathing is on the heavy side 😉

@dave11178 Год назад

can you guys do a slip test of this car? thanks.

@RChero1010 4 месяца назад

The AWD is the same as SH-AWD so any videos you see with that system in an Acura are directly applicable here

@workphone9342 Год назад

Honda definitely has the right formula for this one. When the Passport get this refresh later in the fall (Honda just confirmed it and it will be 2024MY), I think I might pre order one. The 4Runner while capable is way too outdated for my 80% on road driving and I'm not stoked about Toyota moving to a Turbo 4 for the next Gen. So the updated Passport is shaping up to be the next best thing: good offload capability, newish tech combined with old school powertrain, and Japanese reliability.

@miniaddict4534 Год назад

If you want a car with ‘the tech’ to lull you to sleep on the way to Costco, you’re not in the market for a 4Runner or any off road car. The low tech is the whole reason why a 4Runner or any traditional 4x4 with solid axles will outperform this Pilot every time.

@jonathannguyen4355 Год назад

@@miniaddict4534 yeah they already said they’re not in the market for a 4Runner nor any off-road vehicle as they do 80% highway. Also look around, the majority of 4Runners on road are on their way to Costco and target. Jeeps and Bronco have a ton of tech inside and make for great grocery getters too.

@HenryFL1 Год назад

How's the radio?? Not one reviewer mentioned the watts/speakers for each model or how it sounded.

@RChero1010 4 месяца назад

They're pretty good stereos. Not as good as the els you'd get in an Acura but as a bit of an audiophile, I could live with it

@MK-ze8ei Год назад

"More than your average subaru owner"... You do realize the REGULAR Forester comes stock with 8.7 inches of ground clearance, right? Not to mention the Outback and Forester Wilderness models come with even more at 9.5 and 9.2 inches. 😆

@RChero1010 4 месяца назад

Subarus AWD doesn't compare well against the SH-AWD/ivtm4, not anymore. They don't even get limited slip rear diffs anymore while this has full torque vectoring in the diff, not just faking it with brake modulation as Subaru does in recent years

@krisk1547 11 месяцев назад

No diff lock but still decent.

@cookiemonster8282 Год назад

Anyone know exactly what trail in AZ they were at? I know it's in or near Sedona. Was it Broken Arrow?

@mbsnyderc Год назад

I don't get the need for a 7 seat vehicle what am I running a bus service. i see so many vehicles like this every day with just one person in them,and most of the tech is just extra cost things you don't need.

@No-BS-Garage Год назад

Better than an element?

@whatsongisthis5691 Год назад

That "recovery point" is kind of scary. I feel like it would sheer off some bolts with any real force.

@journeywithstu7199 Год назад

Low range? Without it you can go up things that you won’t want to come down. Sure it has descent control, but I prefer to let my transfer case do the work.

@krane15 Год назад

Hill Descent? Did you see that thing flying down the hill. No way that will pass.

@johneason6540 Год назад

Is this in Sedona

@robvelez882 Год назад

How was it like meeting Sarah-N-Tuned?

@toddsimpson9164 Год назад

I don't think they "met", "Sarah-n-Tuned" showed the TFL guys watching her driving it!

@toddwerther188 Год назад

Do Passport next!

@KevinNiven Год назад

That thing wouldn't have made it without the rocks being placed at key areas.

@kirksmith347 Год назад

Have you seen the axles on the pilot they are like twigs, I don't think it's really meant for this environment all the time.

@karkule5919 Год назад

The third window on the sides just don't look right.

@Zanderthelab 10 месяцев назад

I will have you know, Case… the Subaru Wilderness line has better everything! Numbers, awd, tires, etc.! So I would take a Subaru way more places than that Honda! Ntm the wilderness has damn near 2 more inches of ground clearance than even the trail sport does.

@NunamedDragon Год назад

No way that rear hook is a recovery point, seems far too thin. More for break away chains when towing..

@NFAA-NotFunnyAtAll Год назад

I've seen many reviewers quoting Honda that those are rated for twice the GVWR.

@richfarfugnuven6308 Год назад

Nice Subaru...

@jacksonrodabaugh9984 Год назад

Where are you in this video?

@leonelsantamaria9653 4 месяца назад

Bring the Subaru Ascent vs the new Honda Pilot

@mprimro1 Год назад

Your driving impressions were clearly not filmed in a Trail Sport. What did you think of the Trail Sport on the road?

@07HDDriver Год назад

I wanted to see that thing scrape its way down the stairs on Broken Arrow!

@johndc7446 Год назад

Honda please make an off road capable car that can take on jeep wranglers, toyota 4runners, and ford broncos. This is the right time to do it.

@RChero1010 4 месяца назад

This is the best you'll get

@AmericanWorker1127 Год назад

Does the engine still use a timing belt, or timing chain?

@Johns1stGarage Год назад

Belt!

@reyperez3424 Год назад

Any chance Honda would make a MallSport trim?

@re-fix9678 Год назад

😊😊😘😘

@CraigSmith568 Год назад

Looks like a descent vehicle. I like that it has a regular transmission and a full size spare. Not really a fan of that particular color or the price.

@krane15 Год назад

A baby blue off-roader. Yuck!

@NFAA-NotFunnyAtAll Год назад

It has a regular Honda 10 speed transmission and a full size spare underneath.